"Terry Schrader, a friend of the victim, told local media that Mr Waddell had called him on Monday to tell him he was going into the mine to look for gold and precious metals, and asked that he check on him if he had not returned by Tuesday. ... On Wednesday he arrived at the mine, which is on Mr Waddell's property in Aguila - 90 miles (145km) northwest of downtown Phoenix."
It wasnt that he was just walking around the desert looking at birds. He was rapelling down the shaft when his caribiner let loose and he fell about 50 feet.
In the early 70s there were a lot of abandoned, unsealed mines around Tombstone, and we rode motorcycles around in the horizontal ones and climbed down by ladder or rope into others. I guess now they're all sealed off or imploded.
And strangely, I think, in nearly twenty years of kid-to-young-adult-hood messing around in AZ turning over rocks and peering into holes, I only saw three rattlesnakes, one was a baby at the bottom of the sink-hole which comprises the entrance to "Scroll cave", in a flat field 20-or-so miles NNE(?) of Tucson, and which made some guy's girlfriend cry.
I used to do a lot mine spelunking in eastern Cali, Nv and Ut. Never saw rattlers. Lots of bats. Some rooms had hundreds of bats hanging out with several feet of guano on the ground.
I had a neighbor who used to catch rattlesnakes in PA and keep them in a chicken wire cage for barbecue purposes. He might have only done it once, IDK, but it's seared into my hippocampus.
We've been hearing a lot about that story around here. I'm suspicious of the whole rattlesnakes bit. What were snakes doing in a mine? Unless they fell in there's no point being there. It's not like they can go in and out.
"ok, so I'm gonna go by myself past these "Danger! Stay Out-Stay Alive" signs, drop 100 feet down into a rattlesnake infested pit with faulty equipment. If I aint out by, say Tuesday or so, come git me"
Sure thing--I'd offer to hold yer beer, but it looks like you done drunk it all.
I was going to comment about the bit with the rattlesnakes at the bottom of the mine, but Anthony beat me to it. How did the rattlesnakes make a living down there anyhow? How often does someone fall down there so the snakes can get a meal?
And, I think that rattlesnakes only have 2 teeth, and they are mounted in the top of the mouth. How are they going to bite off a meal with only 2 teeth? I gotta call BS on the story.
Wait, he was soloing this little expedition? With sloppy surface backup? Meh...
Re: rattlesnakes - I lived for 25 years near the SF peninsula Crystal Springs watershed. There was a 12 mile cross-country running course laid out along a ridge, in grass / dry meadow and scrub oak terrain. The entry gate had a big sign warning of rattlers. In 25 years of walking and running that course and area, I never saw even one snake. Until the very last day I lived there. That morning I nearly walked right over two of the damn things, in two different spots about a mile apart, each coiled up right in the middle of the running trail. In hindsight, it was probably because of the weather and time of day. It was a cool summer morning, and the snakes had come out of the shady high grass to warm up in the sun on the open trails. Pretty much every other time I was up there was during a warm afternoon, or a chilly summer fog afternoon. Hence, no snakes visible.
Being warm-blooded, I don't think they would be moving too fast at the bottom of a 100 ft. hole if they were even alive. Pretty cool down there I'd guess.
When I hike around our cabin in PA, I usually have a 9 shot .22 revolver, loaded with bird shot every second round, just in case of rattlesnakes. I might not get the with a solid, but the bird shot will work. Especially if I put a .22 magnum cylinder in the revolver, which I will do this week now that I think about it, wildlife goes a bit bonkers with winter coming. We had an 8 foot black snake come out from under the cabin during cocktails once, but he just went on his way around the patio furniture. A nice gentleman if you will. Rattlers though, if I hear them, get shot.
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59 comments:
Damn! That’s a True Grit moment right there
Watch the Kirk Douglas movie "Ace in the Hole", a wonderful and presciently cynical look at journalism.
Why did it have to be snakes?
You never know what you might be capable of until you have no other choice.
"There are 13 types of rattlesnakes that can be found in Arizona . . . ." That's 13 too many.
I've had days like that.
Oso Negro nailed it!
And you thought you were having a bad day.
Ann, until you get that cataract operation, be very careful when you are walking around abandoned gold mines.
The rattlesnake scene in Charles Portis' novel True Grit is worthy of a horror movie.
...had to fight them...for the gold? Did he get the gold? I hope he did.
Talk about rolling snake eyes.
"had to fight them...for the gold? Did he get the gold? I hope he did"
No, he got the shaft.
We have some big rattlers here in Southern Arizona. They reportedly never kill adults with their venom.
However, they scare the shit out of me.
The usually absurd Freudian explanation is nontheless amusing.
Was he wearing a fedora and equipped with a bullwhip?
I see Ignorance is Bliss and I were thinking along the same lines.
This is why I believe I'll live to be 90; I will never rappel 100' into an abandoned mine shaft.
"Terry Schrader, a friend of the victim, told local media that Mr Waddell had called him on Monday to tell him he was going into the mine to look for gold and precious metals, and asked that he check on him if he had not returned by Tuesday. ... On Wednesday he arrived at the mine, which is on Mr Waddell's property in Aguila - 90 miles (145km) northwest of downtown Phoenix."
campy said...
"had to fight them...for the gold? Did he get the gold? I hope he did"
No, he got the shaft.
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That comment right there is going to be hard to beat.
@AllenS, very good!
One of the guys friends said he wasn't fighting the snakes he killed them because he was hungry.
So there he is bottom of 100 ft. shaft, two broken legs, friction burns on his hands, and he has to kill and eat rattlesnakes.
Dang!
Campy.
You win the internet for the day sir.
Go buy that mega millions. You earned it.
he killed them because he was hungry.
now that's turning lemons into lemonade
who's up for some raw snake?
tasty!
It wasnt that he was just walking around the desert looking at birds. He was rapelling down the shaft when his caribiner let loose and he fell about 50 feet.
That would be a nightmare come true for me.
-sw
How many of the guys who got him out were pedophiles?
Somebody mentioned "fedora" and look who showed up.
I'm impressed.
The Brits loves them some scary snake stories - their scariest wildlife is a damned pony. And giant rats.
Fall, slip, trip to lower level 697 deaths in 2016; almost two per day. Snakes made this one special. And not dying.
In the early 70s there were a lot of abandoned, unsealed mines around Tombstone, and we rode motorcycles around in the horizontal ones and climbed down by ladder or rope into others. I guess now they're all sealed off or imploded.
And strangely, I think, in nearly twenty years of kid-to-young-adult-hood messing around in AZ turning over rocks and peering into holes, I only saw three rattlesnakes, one was a baby at the bottom of the sink-hole which comprises the entrance to "Scroll cave", in a flat field 20-or-so miles NNE(?) of Tucson, and which made some guy's girlfriend cry.
For a second I thought this story was about Elizabeth Warren and her failed DNA test.
Why would one go to an abandoned gold mine alone?
Seems Grade A foolish.
Reminds me of the opening to There Will Be Blood.
There must've been blood. https://youtu.be/T3O-OEem3XM?t=243
I used to do a lot mine spelunking in eastern Cali, Nv and Ut. Never saw rattlers. Lots of bats. Some rooms had hundreds of bats hanging out with several feet of guano on the ground.
I had the over/under on "Why'd it have to be snakes?" at four.
I had a neighbor who used to catch rattlesnakes in PA and keep them in a chicken wire cage for barbecue purposes. He might have only done it once, IDK, but it's seared into my hippocampus.
Sharks.
Snakes.
Brewers.
Dodgers.
Killer day.
We've been hearing a lot about that story around here. I'm suspicious of the whole rattlesnakes bit. What were snakes doing in a mine? Unless they fell in there's no point being there. It's not like they can go in and out.
I call foul.
"ok, so I'm gonna go by myself past these "Danger! Stay Out-Stay Alive" signs, drop 100 feet down into a rattlesnake infested pit with faulty equipment. If I aint out by, say Tuesday or so, come git me"
Sure thing--I'd offer to hold yer beer, but it looks like you done drunk it all.
I offer 3:1 odds the fellow is a Republican.
I was going to comment about the bit with the rattlesnakes at the bottom of the mine, but Anthony beat me to it. How did the rattlesnakes make a living down there anyhow? How often does someone fall down there so the snakes can get a meal?
And, I think that rattlesnakes only have 2 teeth, and they are mounted in the top of the mouth. How are they going to bite off a meal with only 2 teeth? I gotta call BS on the story.
who among us hasn't fallen in hole or two
The vets in Tucson have "snake avoidance courses" for dogs. I always walk my basset on a leash for that reason.
About two weeks ago she found a rattlesnake but somebody had already chopped its head off.
I've seen them crossing the road but we have not encountered a live one on the walks.
Nice that he survived a rattlesnake attack -- but could he survive a Sharknado?
Wait, he was soloing this little expedition? With sloppy surface backup?
Meh...
Re: rattlesnakes - I lived for 25 years near the SF peninsula Crystal Springs watershed. There was a 12 mile cross-country running course laid out along a ridge, in grass / dry meadow and scrub oak terrain. The entry gate had a big sign warning of rattlers.
In 25 years of walking and running that course and area, I never saw even one snake.
Until the very last day I lived there. That morning I nearly walked right over two of the damn things, in two different spots about a mile apart, each coiled up right in the middle of the running trail.
In hindsight, it was probably because of the weather and time of day. It was a cool summer morning, and the snakes had come out of the shady high grass to warm up in the sun on the open trails. Pretty much every other time I was up there was during a warm afternoon, or a chilly summer fog afternoon. Hence, no snakes visible.
Snakes have no legs as punishment for the unpleasantness in the garden.
Being warm-blooded, I don't think they would be moving too fast at the bottom of a 100 ft. hole if they were even alive. Pretty cool down there I'd guess.
Buwaya, the man probably doesn't vote. He probably thinks it just encourages them.
Was he driving a Chevy with a JATO tank?
I guess you don't fight off rattlesnakes by kicking them.
Whoops. Put up a link to the JATO story, and was alerted that the site contains malware. Never mind...
When I hike around our cabin in PA, I usually have a 9 shot .22 revolver, loaded with bird shot every second round, just in case of rattlesnakes. I might not get the with a solid, but the bird shot will work. Especially if I put a .22 magnum cylinder in the revolver, which I will do this week now that I think about it, wildlife goes a bit bonkers with winter coming. We had an 8 foot black snake come out from under the cabin during cocktails once, but he just went on his way around the patio furniture. A nice gentleman if you will. Rattlers though, if I hear them, get shot.
What a brave, courageous, survivor of a man!
Trump should prove himself by doing the same thing.
Michael K said...
The vets in Tucson have "snake avoidance courses" for dogs. I always walk my basset on a leash for that reason.
About two weeks ago she found a rattlesnake but somebody had already chopped its head off.
I've seen them crossing the road but we have not encountered a live one on the walks.
They recognize and know how to avoid one of their own.
Well I been workin' in a gold mine
Goin' down, down
Workin' in a gold mine
Whew! About to slip down
Snakes didn't know it was Whacking Day.
I'd say he also had to walk up hill, both ways, but under the circumstances...
First think he said when he hit the bottom, surrounded by snakes...'damn, it must be Tuesday'.
I bet he will bring out a book describing the experience: '1001 Rattlesnake Recipes'.
I see Ritmo has the day off from McD's.
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