Typically such cases occur when a vulnerable individual seeks help from a psychotherapist for a commonly occurring psychological problem such as anxiety, depression, low self-esteem, and so on. At this stage, the client has no conscious memories of ever being the victim of childhood sexual abuse and is likely to firmly reject any suggestion of such abuse. To a particular sort of well-meaning psychotherapist, however, such denial is itself evidence that the abuse really did occur....For contrast, here's WaPo yesterday: "The junk science Republicans used to undermine Ford and help save Kavanaugh."
During therapy, and often as a result of "memory recovery" techniques such as hypnotic regression and guided imagery, the client may gradually develop clear and vivid memories of abuse having taken place, typically at the hands of parents and other family members.
On the evidence of a huge amount of well-controlled research, we can now be confident that these memory recovery techniques are highly likely to give rise to false memories – apparent memories for events that never took place.
Mara Mather, a professor at the University of Southern California, has performed laboratory studies in which volunteers are given electric shocks or subjected to loud noises while they look at a set of symbols — to find out which ones they remember while their brains are flooded with the same chemicals released during trauma.IN THE COMMENTS: Michael K said: "I initially thought she had recovered memories but I have come to the conclusion that she is lying."
“I guess the Republicans have been debating why does she forget getting home, but that sounds very plausible," she said. “It focuses the brain on whatever stands out at that moment. The things that are not standing out are even more ignored.”
Like other researchers, she could not recall a single case of a sexual assault victim misremembering a known attacker — save for rare instances in which people, often children, were coached into falsely accusing friends and family members....
The Senators and pundits were operating under rules of engagement that put it off limits to inquire into whether Christine Blasey Ford might be lying. That led them into a lot of discussion of the mysteries of memory, and if the science got weak or bad, it might be because it stood in for something else that they were committed not to talk about. I'd like to see some serious defense of whatever good memory science there might be out there, but the WaPo article is not serious. It's propaganda, purporting to straighten us out on the science, but exploiting science in service to a political end.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 336 of 336Michael K., I've always given credit (grudgingly) to the American left for its organizational abilities and Prussian discipline in advancing a particular cause or legislative action. For generations, they've groomed mobs on every campus in the country - and with Soros' bottomless pockets, can send them into action at any particular time on any point of the compass. And they pad their filthy ranks with older ground troops "organized" by people like Barack Obama. I saw this scum in action for weeks in St. Louis in 2014. (A feral pack of literal Chicago communists tried to use a friend's Ferguson backyard as a staging ground for their merry making, and only scuttled away after said friend introduced them to his Remington 870.) Where are the conservative mobs with which to repay these maniacs in their own coin? Working and raising families, I would guess. But, on the other hand, I don't think the left did itself any favors with its mob antics this past half-month. Normal Americans got an eyeful of what this rabble is all about.
In the 60's and 70's I was a copious drinker. I was the very definition of a "drunken sailor" I could drink most of a quart of rum at a single sitting.
As far as I know, I never "blacked out" as I understand the definition. I did some really stupid things but I always remembered them. I never had someone tell me that I did something that I didn't remember. Frequently I passed out but passed out is different from blacked out.
Seems like Kavanaugh's "Drank too much and fell asleep" is a polite way of saying passed out.
To me it is entirely believable that he never blacked out. That is, conscious and acting/moving but unable to remember later.
I realized that I had a problem and quit drinking in 1984. Other than one episode in the early 90s, I've not touched a drop ever since.
John Henry
I was unenthusiastic about our Republican candidate for the US Senate, but Dems' talk of impeachment has turned up my wick. Thanks, guys and gals.
Perhaps if the FBI was permitted to interview her and him we would have additional factual information relevant to the issue.
Matthew Sablan said...
["It's like stating if I don't believe Dr Ford, then I don't believe them."]
-- That's the most insidious thing about this.
It's not insidious, it's just stupid. Does believing a particular murder suspect to be innocent demonstrate I believe all murder suspects innocent? It's ridiculous but it seems to be how the left trains itself to think.
Perhaps if the FBI was permitted to interview her and him we would have additional factual information relevant to the issue.
She testified under oath but her advocates claim she omitted material testimony? Wait - these are her advocates right?
Blogger steve uhr said...
Perhaps if the FBI was permitted to interview her and him we would have additional factual information relevant to the issue.
Any suggested questions?
That is, that have not already been asked and answered under oath.
John Henry
How To Protect Yourself From False Rape Allegations (copied) --
I'm seeing a lot of scared men right now. My heart aches for you. I get it: You're just trying to go about your day when in a mere instant, your whole life could be turned upside down. It's a scary world—you could lose everything, just because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time.
With that in mind, I present my Top 10 Tips for Staying Safe from false rape accusations:
1. If you go to a party, either have only one drink, or only drink soda or water, so you can keep your wits about you. Never get tipsy around people you don't know and trust fully—it could come back to haunt you later. Even around people you fully trust, remember that most false rape allegations come from people you know. Be vigilant!
2. Use the buddy system, so you always have a witness! Only go to the bathroom with a friend, or ideally with a group of friends. Always have a friend walk you to your car, in case you run into a strange woman in the parking garage. Never go camping or hiking or biking or running or even just walking alone. NEVER go to a bar or concert or party or event alone; that is just asking for it.
3. If you're going out anywhere, make sure you text the specifics of your plans to at least one or two trusted friends, in case they need to verify your whereabouts to police later. You may also consider using a location sharing app so you have proof of where you were and when.
4. If you're going to exercise, make sure that you bring a friend, or even better, just exercise at home. Never go through a park alone. There might be a woman there who could accuse you.
5. When you're heading to class or work, never listen to music or podcasts on headphones. You need to listen carefully to your surroundings to make sure no woman is accusing you of anything.
6. When you're getting into your car at the end of the day, always check your backseat to make sure there aren't any women hiding back there. Never take shortcuts through alleys or parking lots that aren't extremely well lit, in case a woman is hiding there, waiting to accuse you.
7. Only take out the trash, walk the dog, get your mail, go to the ATM, or get gas during daylight hours. Most false rape accusations happen at night, and you don't want to become a statistic. If you MUST go out alone at night, make sure to get your phone out of your pocket and start recording video. Grasp the phone between your fingers so it's not obvious, but keep it ready in case a strange woman approaches you.
8. It's expensive to take Uber or Lyft all the time, I know. But never use public transportation after dark. It's just too risky. Indecent exposure and groping accusations are very common on the subway, and you can easily avoid this by simply taking a cab instead. Protect yourself.
9. Never rent ground-floor apartments, and make sure you lock all your windows at night, even if it's hot out. You never know if a woman is going to break into your bedroom to accuse you while you are asleep.
10. Last but not least, even if you follow all these tips, you could still be falsely accused. After all, no matter what steps you take to prevent it, it's simply a fact of life that every year, a low single-digit percentage of rape allegations will turn out to be false, on par with other false allegations of felonies, and that's just a sad truth we all have to live with. You can take precautions, but that's all you can do.
Hope this helps.
"Perhaps if the FBI was permitted to interview her and him we would have additional factual information relevant to the issue."
-- She refused to provide the FBI with her therapist's notes. Given she was obstructing their investigation, there's no reason for us to believe that she would cooperate.
Rick said...Does believing a particular murder suspect to be innocent demonstrate I believe all murder suspects innocent?
--
A good analogy that should be invoked more.
We are being told to use different standards because women.
“Then maybe you should cut back on the steroid use.
Just a thought.”
Haha funny, I was just thinking the same about you folks! It’s uncanny how much we think alike, except we think it about each other.
Also, what other factual information are we supposing she'd provide the FBI but not the committee? Remember, she was specifically asked if she had anything else to add.
Unless we're proposing that she would have a sudden memory moment, I see no point in interviewing a witness who is actively obstructing the investigation.
(Now, if you can force them to testify under oath, or under threat of of legal ramifications, then there's a point. But why interview someone who just a few days ago said she couldn't remember anything more and would not provide you material that will help you with the investigation? She's already told you all she knows, and has made it clear she's not interested in finding the truth. It's a waste of time, one you could do if you had all the time in the world, no budget and no reason to distrust the witness -- but none of those were in play. She was an unreliable narrator/witness, there are limits to time and resources, and we have no reason to believe she's got anything new to say.)
Blogger readering said...
Predicting months of recovered memories about newest justice.
Awww. Were you traumatized ?
I hope you're feewing better soon.
I mentioned Elizabeth Loftus, PhD and her research on false memory, about two weeks ago in the comments. It was a Saturday evening cafe post. I posted references to false memory research, posted by an association which deals with the topic. And then I posted again with a link to a TED talk she gave. Dr. Loftus, now 73, was already researching and publishing on the subject in the early 70's, before Julia Shaw was born. Not exactly a "new" field of study.
That detail from Ford's testimony about the two front doors was so bizarre -- I suppose she felt she had to give an excuse for why she was in couple's therapy. They had a marital conflict over her insistence on a second front door due to her claustrophia, which was the result of the stress of being assaulted 36 years ago. The therapy was in 2012 but the building records show the renovation was done in 2008; and it was an addition to the house, for a rental or an office in the back of the house. Were they still arguing about the front door four years later?
I'm glad we can move on.
Inga, you forgot about not showing one's bare legs or chest hair in public--no shorts or muscle shirts!
steve uhr said...
Perhaps if the FBI was permitted to interview her and him we would have additional factual information relevant to the issue.
Her interview would go:
FBI agent: Hello ma’am, your name for the recor please?
Liar: Christine Ford, but everyone calls me Balsy, err.. I mean Blasey.
FBI: Thank you. What day did the alleged incident occur?
Liar: Sometime in the summer of 1982. I know it was summer because I had a swimsuit on at a high school drinking party to keep boys from getting my clothes off.
FBI agent: Hmm. What was the address of the house where this occurred?
Liar: It happened in a house. In Maryland. Or Virginia.
FBI agent: Was anyone else at the party?
Liar: Yes. But they are being uncooperative. I have my ex-FBI agent friend straightening them out now.
FBI agent: Um. How did you get there?
Liar: I don’t know.
FBI agent: How did you get home?
Liar: I don’t know.
FBI agent: Do you have a copy of your police report?
Liar: I didn’t file one.
FBI agent: When are you going to file the police report?
Liar: I am not going to pursue the case any further.
FBI agent: I think we have a case...
Liar: Great!
FBI agent: against you.
Basil Duke said: "Where are the conservative mobs with which to repay these maniacs in their own coin? Working and raising families, I would guess."
A lot of the leftist activity is simply leveraging the fact that they tend to be massed in cities. This is a common thread in everything from statue pulldowns, to mob action in restaurants, to anthem protests, to the current belligerence. It's hard to think of ways to counter the tactic: about all I can think of is that the Democratic cities consist of groups with wildly differing interests, and it should be possible to leverage that division.
FTR: Brett Kavanaugh proved he has perfect judicial temperament when he was being questioned for a Judicial appointment for several days. After a weeks delay, the Televised Execution Day had written him off, and only then did he he decide to fight back that day after the Dem Cabal had turned him into a criminal defendant in a Kangaroo Court that was framing him for serious crimes.
Brett then heeded DJT's advice to black communities under Dem campaigns of slow destruction: What do you have to lose.
And now, Rose McGowan, in an interview with the Daily Times Magazine says the #MeToo movement is bullshit.
I've honestly felt like we have been living in Bizzaro World these last couple of weeks. No, months.
Inga, the Bill Clinton Ted Kennedy Keith Ellison Harvey Weinstein supporter, forgot the most important thing you need to do to avoid false accusations:
Be a Democrat.
If I were accused of gang rape, I think I hope I hold my cool as well as he did.
Will any of us be surprised if Kavanaugh turns out to be another Souter, a liberal justice?
Doesn't that make sense? Because nothing makes sense. We are in the twilight zone.
Being a Democrat also keeps Inga and her violent friends from chasing you out of restaurants.
Will any of us be surprised if Kavanaugh turns out to be another Souter, a liberal justice?
How are they going to schmooze him when they can't invite him to their parties.
There simply wasn't sufficient topless protest to give the resistance effort the needed gravitas.
Alyssa Milano had her chance.
Althouse wrote: "The Senators and pundits were operating under rules of engagement that put it off limits to inquire into whether Christine Blasey Ford might be lying."
Indeed, and that is at the heart of the problem presented by the Democrats and accepted by the Republicans: She is too fragile to ask her hard questions and if you do you are evil and against survivors and hate women. And thus we had the soft but very clever questions of the prosecutor. No one could dare ask how she couldn't remember if she took the polygraph on the day of her grandmother's funeral but could remember that she had one beer thirty six years ago. Her story was so preposterous that a tough line of questioning, aggressive, would have broken her like a twig.
If I were accused of gang rape, I think I hope I hold my cool as well as he did.
Gang rape and attempted murder.
with... 1980's male bravado in a yearbook as proof.
It was very stressful. She enjoyed it.
Here ya go, Inga:
https://store.democrats.org/collections/new/products/supreme-injustice-t-shirt
He not only said that he never "blacked out" (which as I understand it means you completely forget where you were and what you did) but he never had memory lapses while drunk. This is ridiculous on its face. He also claimed that any "ralphing" was because of his weak stomach, not from over consumption of alcohol (which is directly contradicted by his own handwriting).
Freder,
1. Have you ever had memory lapses (drunk or not)? How would you know other than someone telling you what happened? Did anyone come forth to testify about a conversation with BK that provided evidence of a memory lapse?
2. BK clearly stated that he over consumed alcohol as a teenager. He did not deny that overconsumption of alcohol affected his weak stomach. He added that spicy foods also caused him to "ralph."
We all make mistakes in reconstructing recent and remote memories. In your case, I strongly suspect that it is not a memory issue. You were never really listening to the testimony. You were trying to find reasons to convict BK without a shred of evidence.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/implant-false-memory.html
Saying that this memory retrieval technique works for most people if they try hard enough—that’s a subtle social pressure that actually has quite a profound impact where you’re saying, “If you don’t get this memory back, you just didn’t try hard enough.”
Participant 1: I only remember a few possibilities of people I could have picked a fight with.
Shaw: Who do you think it could have been?
Participant 1: There was a bully.
Shaw: When was this?
Participant 2:This… well, I’m assuming it was in the fall? . - PBS
all I can think of is that the Democratic cities consist of groups with wildly differing interests, and it should be possible to leverage that division.
And so many are government employees who can't be fired.
In Tucson the teachers all took off at the end of th school year to protest for more pay and let the kids out, too, so they could protest on street corners.
Why cares about finals? That's why everybody I know sends their kids to private schools.
Even the D governor candidate, Garcia, sends his kids to charter schools.
The lefties got a ballot initiative approved to stop school vouchers but they got confused in writing the thing, so now they have to vote "NO" on their own initiative to get the result they want.
You just can't make this stuff up.
I new a girl in college who got black out drunk. She found it quite unsettling. She knew damed well it had happened when she woke up not knowing how she got where she was, for example, or her friends asked her why she did something.
Inga...Allie Oop said...
Hope this helps.*
It does not, since, with the exception of always having a witness with you, none of it would reduce the chances of a false accusation.
Those would, however, be excellent actions to take if you wanted to avoid being raped, in which case they would pretty much all be helpful. Maybe you can rewrite it with that in mind. Be sure to add a point about getting a concealed carry permit, training, and a firearm. Again, useless against a false accusation, but quite useful against a rapist.
*No, you don't.
"When she said she heard the two of them (Kavanaugh and Judge) "pinballing down the hall," I knew I was listening to a storyteller and wannabe novelist."
Yeah, her whole story was like "Lifetime Movie" script.
Why would a drunk Judge, stand by and alternate telling Kavanaugh "to stop" and "go on"? Or jump on them, twice? Or "start a fight" which allowed her to escape? Or laugh manically - like a James Bond villain?
Her whole story had to be as lurid as possible, without involving any serious rape, torn clothes or physical injury, since that would lead to the question: Why didn't you report it? And Why didn't the other 3 people notice?
Haha funny, I was just thinking the same about you folks! It’s uncanny how much we think alike, except we think it about each other.
Inga is unwittingly providing supportive evidence of my hypothesis that Democrats specialize in projecting their unacceptable thoughts and behaviors onto others.
I first starting thinking that after the "Bush lied. People died" meme. Conveniently, that began after Slick Willie's tour de force.
Garth Algar Ford is a lying cunt, and the only ones who believe or pretend to believe her are commie twats like Freder and Inga.
Enjoy the next 40 years of Conservative hellfire reigning down on you from the bench. Oh, and Ginsberg and Breyer's dirt naps should be well within Trump's second term.
There will be a 7-2 majority for at least the rest of Inga's hopefully short remaining life. I don't know how old Freder is, probably mid 50s, so he also will take his last breath under the Supreme Court that is shaped directly by the God Emperor.
What’s your plan here?” he asked.
"Well, I think a lot of it has to do with changing our strategy around governance, you know. There is a lot of inside baseball, and inside the beltway, as you know, you always hear that term thrown around. But there are very few organizers in Congress and I do think that organizers operate differently. It’s a different kind of strategy and what it is is really about organizing and really thinking about that word ‘organizing’, segmenting people, being strategic in their actions and really bringing together a cohesive strategy of putting pressure on the chamber instead of only focusing on pressure inside the chamber,"
This incomprehensible word salad is the face of The Resistance.
Any guesses?
Psychologists and "therapists" who dabble in recovered memory or who even believe recovered memory is anything other than primitive shamanistic argle-bargle are a menace to everyone and thoroughgoing mountebanks.
watch this clip from Penn & Teller's fabulous old Showtime series Bullshit! and you'll see one of Nature's most repulsive denizens, a bitch called Barbara Lamb who drains the souls and bank accounts of lonely insecure boobs who have trouble separating fantasy and reality.
I shoot competitively with some retired police officers. I jokingly asked them if they’d ever heard of “just one beer” coupled with “can’t recall where I was or how I got home.” They told me it was normally the “two beer defense,” as in “I just had two beers, officer.” One of them Told me of arresting a guy who seemed mildly inebriated and refused a breathalyzer. Blood test returned 5.3, which I am certain Dr. Michael K. will tell us means the guy was dead. Apparently the man was such a hardcore alcoholic that he didn’t even feel a buzz until he was somewhere above 2.0. Oh, and the arrest was during morning rush hour.
" There is a lot of inside baseball"
There is a baseball inside her skull.
Her autonomic nervous system has an impressive jurisdiction.
My guess is Hillary.
Occasional Cortex continued:
He wear no shoeshine
He got toe jam football
He got monkey finger
He shoot Coca-Cola
He say I know you, you know me
One thing I can tell you is
You got to be free
Come together, right now
Over me
Let's just say, that if Christine Blasey Ford could fly, she would fly like a carpet.
Steve M. Galbraith said, "Will any of us be surprised if Kavanaugh turns out to be another Souter, a liberal justice?
Doesn't that make sense? Because nothing makes sense. We are in the twilight zone."
You're absolutely right about the twilight zone. So much speculation, so many people on both sides who think they know what happened, so much credence put in a "full investigation".
I guess it's just fun to babble on about Ford's story, because I don't see many people who get the sheer insanity of trying to know what happened three-and-a-half decades ago on the strength of but one teenage witness.
Well obviously the authors of that "False Memory" piece aren't woke to the modern standards of Progressives and the social justice warrior cult, they should be dragged into the streets and stoned to death for their heresy.
Blood test returned 5.3, which I am certain Dr. Michael K. will tell us means the guy was dead.
We had a girl come in from a rollover auto accident.
She was comatose and we did a whole head injury workup on her until her BAC came back over 3.0.
When she woke up she told us she had been at a beach party after a day on a sport fishing boat out of Dana Point.
No injuries at all.
He also lied about the entries in his yearbook. - Freder
This is what you've become, leftists. Using high school yearbook quotes as a litmus test for SCOTUS nominees.
You couldn't be more pathetic if you tried. Stop breathing my air.
Freddie is a boof troofer.
Blogger tim in vermont said...
I new a girl in college who got black out drunk.
At one point, I lived in an apartment near campus with two other students. One night we walked next door to the next apartment and there was a passed out girl on the floor. She was a stranger but had apparently gotten so drunk she passed out on the floor, Of course she had vomited and wet her pants.
We stood around and talked about what to do with her. Finally we got a market cart and put her in it like the scene in
"Animal House." We pushed the cart up to the front steps of A O Pi, which somebody said she was a member of. We rang the bell and took off like Tom Hulce in Animal House.
Never heard another word about it. Girls just did not get that drunk in those days.
Using high school yearbook quotes as a litmus test for SCOTUS nominees.
Aw come on. Ease up on Freder. Didn't you know he was a classmate of Kav ? What was your yearbook entry Freder ?
I went with - she's an evil lying bitch and I hope she burns in hell along with all the other feminists.
Everyone who respects science and values our Western heritage needs to listen to this.
PMJ...
Garth Algar Ford is a lying cunt, and the only ones who believe or pretend to believe her are commie twats like Freder and Inga.
Enjoy the next 40 years of Conservative hellfire reigning down on you from the bench. Oh, and Ginsberg and Breyer's dirt naps should be well within Trump's second term.
There will be a 7-2 majority for at least the rest of Inga's hopefully short remaining life. I don't know how old Freder is, probably mid 50s, so he also will take his last breath under the Supreme Court that is shaped directly by the God Emperor.
Just savage.
"I saw an old guy down half a bottle of Listerene mouthwash"
Take that, gingivitis!
Nice link, Quaestor.
Thanks.
Michael K said...
No injuries at all.
Lucky for her she was drunk. Had she been sober, the crash probably would have killed her.
Will any of us be surprised if Kavanaugh turns out to be another Souter, a liberal justice?
He's been fairly middle-of-the-road during his years on the Court of Appeals. But I expect he'll turn more conservative and more constructionist almost immediately. He's had first-hand experience of the foul rot that calls itself progressivism
Ease up on Freder.
Freder used to hang out at RWN way back in the day.
He was a dishonest POS then. He's a dishonest POS shit now.
Recovered memories contain missing links that are filled in with personal prejudice and external incentives. They are not necessarily false memories, but rather scientifically incoherent, and should be considered jointly with independent testimony and physical evidence. In that respect, their value is no different than near-term memories, whose accuracy may also be suspect.
We know the following about CO2 and temperature- in a closed system, that is, confined in a glass box, CO2 helps to retain heat.
We know the following about the atmosphere- it is not a closed system.
Extrapolating closed system effects to an open system is never a good idea.
It strikes me, the Monday after, that this whole tempest was wrought on one woman’s 36-year-old memory (recovered or not). That’s it. There is no physical evidence, no tests that corroborates (indeed, it refutes), no nothing but the word of this tiny-voiced woman. We are told she is credible but why? Her PhD.? That doesn’t cut it with me. Even within her testimony there are contradictions.
The real question for me that is what would make such a woman go before the nation and lie? Is she clinically mentally ill?
She is mentally ill and evil.
M Jordan, the Left has made sure that half the country, the more gullible half, has full reason to lie. They've told these people, day after day, year after year for decades that if Roe v Wade is under the slightest threat, it means imminent slavery to the evil patriarchy. Literal slavery. If you're enough of an idiot to believe that, why wouldn't you lie to prevent it? Why even wonder at the motive? Now whether that level of idiocy counts as mental illness is another story.
We know the following about the atmosphere- it is not a closed system.
Extrapolating closed system effects to an open system is never a good idea.
Exactly. Incompletely or insufficiently characterized and unwieldy. They changed the frame of reference, without considered its effects on characterization, and predicted a progressive process that has failed to materialize.
Lucky for her she was drunk. Had she been sober, the crash probably would have killed her.
There are a number of cases where someone was passed out drunk in the back seat in fatal crashes killing the driver.
The drunk survives with little or no injury. One theory is that they are totally relaxed.
That Feymann you tube was not his voice but it is good. He had a heavy Brooklyn accent.
This is his voice.
I always thought boof was a dog barking under his breath.
The real question for me that is what would make such a woman go before the nation and lie? Is she clinically mentally ill?
@M Jordan, two possibilities. First assumes that the Blasey and Kavanaugh families slightly knew each other back then -- they moved in the same social circles and I have read that today Blasey's father is a golfing partner with Kavanaugh's father. She may have tried to swing a date with a high-status (varsity football player) high school student from Georgetown Prep as a way to enhance her popularity at Holton-Arms but been shut down hard. In 2012 she sees the possibility of payback, and the possibility comes to pass in 2018. She jumps at it, because Hell hath no fury ...
Possibility number two is that she was paid, and didn't realize at first what she was letting herself in for. Once in the frying pan she needed to follow through or find herself (figuratively) in the fire.
Btw, since Inga is resting her entire position on 'he didn't show the proper temperament for a judge presiding over a trial', weren't we told over and over that this wasn't a trial, it was just a job interview?
And btw, if it was just a job interview, any private corporation that had asked those kinds of questions to an applicant could be sued to oblivion. Their HR department would probably quit em masse the next day rather than try to defend against the massive number of laws those questions would have violated.
if Roe v Wade is under the slightest threat, it means imminent slavery to the evil patriarch
The progression is choice, then sex, then responsibility. The exceptional cases are separable, should and can be considered apart from the general rule. There are at least two human lives at stake. Their human and civil (excluding the Twilight Amendment and unPerson classification) rights should be reconciled for the good of the individuals, society, and humanity.
“The real question for me that is what would make such a woman go before the nation and lie? Is she clinically mentally ill?”
Check with Anita Hill. It’s a career-enhancing move. Plus there’s the money in the Gofundme account.
Big Mike, I agree with both theories as the best possibilities.
The recovered memory theory was hit pretty hard by her changes in the hearing. Mitchell pretty well exploded that possibility.
When I was in college in the late 60s, "boofer" was slang for a fart. I went to a liberal arts college with a national base, and the word came to us from Californians. Who knows how it moved east to Jesuit prep schools in DC?
The air we breathe contains (rounded):
781,000ppm of Nitrogen
210,000ppm of Oxygen
9,000ppm of Argon
400ppm of Carbon dioxide
Small amounts of other gases
It also contains A LOT of water vapor (humidity or clouds) but that is not really a constituent in the same way. Although it affects climate greatly.
I think in all my years (including working with gases) I have never seen nitrogen, oxygen, argon or any other of air's constituent gasses expressed in parts per million(ppm). I have always seen it expressed as percentages or parts per hundred. 78% nitrogen, for example.
It is only CO2 that I recall ever seeing as ppm. There is no reason for it other than disingenuousness. Most of the world is so scientifically illiterate that they have no idea what ppm means. They see "400ppm" and think "Wow! That's a big number. Must be something to worry about." Especially compared to the 78% nitrogen that they have vaguely heard of. 400 is more than 5 times as much as 78, right?
If we are going to talk about air composition in ppm, we should talk about ALL the components of air in ppm. Or, more properly, we should talk about ALL of them in percentage.
78% Nitrogen
21% Oxygen
0.04% Carbon Dioxide
That they mix the units when talking about climate whatsit is deliberate distortion.
And don't get me started on the propagandistic substitution of "carbon" when speaking of "Carbon dioxide" Another lie to fool a gullible, scientifically illiterate public.
Thus concludes John R Henry's Pet Peeve of the Day.
John Henry
Larry Munson banged Ann Margerat. Said it wasn’t really that hard to do.
As in she was easy.
Quillette ran a very interesting story, "On the Fallibility of Memory and the Importance of Evidence," by Tyler Watkins: https://quillette.com/2018/10/04/on-the-fallibility-of-memory-and-the-importance-of-evidence/
Basically, memories of traumatic events are not more reliable than other memories and retelling memories tends to change them. Also, people can be very confident about memories that aren't true.
Remember, kids: it's only a false accusation of rape when it's against a Democrat.
I thought Ford was lying about all of this when I saw her interchanges with Mitchell about flying. "Yes. I got here with the support of friends," followed thereafter by admissions that Ford has flown all over the world.
There are many interesting things going on here. As Althouse says, the rules of engagement seemed to be that senators and pundits could not inquire into whether Ford might be lying. Those rules came from the fallout from #MeToo. So Senator Collins, in her brilliant speech, said that she believed that Ford had been assaulted, but that there was not sufficient evidence to conclude that Kavanaugh had done it: in effect, Ford's ID without corroboration was not enough. She then immediately went on to attack the Avenatti claims as "outlandish". She changed the subject to someone that everyone thinks is unreliable. Nicely done.
My speculation is that Ford repurposed some event in her life and intentionally and falsely accused Kavanaugh of being the perpetrator to keep him off the SC. Her scrubbed internet history is extremely suggestive of how professional this effort was.
Why would she name Leland Keyser without being sure that Leland would confirm? We can only speculate. That really blew up in Ford's face. That was not very professional. It would be interesting to know what the behind-the-scenes communications were between Ford and Leland, if any. Leland Keyser seems to be an honest woman.
400ppm
When the Lefties held that one-day worldwide bell ringing event a few years ago, ringing the bell 400 times for the CO2 level, I wanted to hold them at gunpoint and make them ring the bells one million times for the denominator.
Freder Frederson at 11:00 AM
He not only said that he never "blacked out" (which as I understand it means you completely forget where you were and what you did) but he never had memory lapses while drunk. This is ridiculous on its face.
I do not agree with your opinion that this is ridiculous.
78% Nitrogen
21% Oxygen
0.04% Carbon Dioxide
Thanks, John Henry. This has been a pet peeve of mine for years.
Essay: Fact Checking Christine Blasey Ford's Testimony on Memory
Robert Karl Stonjek (moderator of the 765-member Yahoo Groups Cognitive Neuroscience Forum)
From Time Magazine's account of the testimony we read:
When Sen. Feinstein asked, "How are you so sure that it was he?", Ford said she could be sure of Kavanaugh's identity in “the same way I'm sure I'm talking to you right now,” before launching into an explanation of brain chemistry. The neurotransmitter epinephrine, Ford explained, "codes memories into the hippocampus, and so the trauma-related experience is locked there, whereas other details kind of drift," she said.
And
"Indelible in the hippocampus is the laughter, the uproarious laughter between the two [men], and they're having fun at my expense."
She also claimed to be 100% sure of some aspects of her memory. As a psychology professor, she should have known that no memory, even recent memories, are 100% reliable. It would have been more accurate to say that she was as sure as humanly possible rather than giving a scientifically invalid percentage known and accepted in science to be inaccurate.
Blasey Ford is a psychologist and so she is not expected to get the neuroscience right but why make these bizarre statements? Memory is not stored in the hippocampus and there has never been any model that makes this claim. Nor does epinephrine code for memory. Neurotransmitters allow communication between neurons, they do not code memories. Norepinephrine, not epinephrine, is involved in prioritizing memory for later recall so there is a vague connection to epinephrine if you allow for a student level error. It is true that salient aspects of an incident are retained much better than incidental information so this part of her testimony was indeed accurate, but her memory of the underlying neuronal mechanism was deeply flawed.
The hippocampus is required for laying down memory, we do not know where exactly these engrams are subsequently stored but the hippocampus is not involved in actual storage of memories or their recollection. In those cases where the hippocampus has been damaged and/or removed from both sides of the brain, only anterograde (after the event) memory ability is lost, retrograde memory access (memories laid down before the event) are preserved. And so when recalling the incident in the past the hippocampus plays no role and even if a person had subsequently lost that structure no memory or access to earlier memories would be lost. (see for instance, research into Henry Molaison’s case).
The statement regarding neurotransmitter abundances and the role of the hippocampus was wholly inaccurate in its entirety. This begs the question of what other confabulation, if any, has occurred in this case. Her testimony relating to her own field (psychology, eg with regard to PTSD, trauma etc) was accurate.'
The two laughter clips from her testimony are here:
https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/video-christine-blasey-ford-laughter-kavanaugh/
The only problem about this analysis is that the guy making it is a self-taught neuroscientist without academic credentials living in Tasmania. Where he was convicted a couple of years ago of possessing child porn on his computer (which he naturally claimed was for research purposes).
But Richard Feynman provides this caution (which he learned from his father): '...Have no respect whatsoever for authority; forget who said it and instead look what he starts with, where he ends up, and ask yourself, "Is it reasonable?"'
I am leaning toward believing the rumor that Ford went through something like what she described and it did not involve Kavanaugh at all. And she and her mom did file a police report and it was referred to the DA or States Atty who didn't bring charges but got the families together and had the boy apologize and agree to stay away from her in the future--subject to stronger action if he did not. The Boy's father--a prominent lawyer--later got the records sealed because he was a juvenile and a resolution had been worked out. The incident happened at the boy's house--which is why she could not say where it happened. And the "when" might give away other clues to track it down. Ford's written statement that she attested to in her polygraph exam did not mention Kavanaugh's name. BTW, how many people ever heard of a two-question polygraph exam? Don't they ask a lot of questions to e develop a baseline and varying degrees of distress/reaction?
When the story appeared at Drudge the day before her testimony saying that two men came forward saying that they may have been the boys described in her story. I thought the rumor was about to be confirmed.
At any point in time there is 1 to 50 times as much water vapor in the atmosphere as CO2.
Water Vapor as a storage vessel for heat energy is an order of magnitude more effective than CO2.
Global warming has nothing to do with science.
I am leaning toward believing the rumor that Ford went through something like what she described and it did not involve Kavanaugh at all.
I'v seen that one, too. I saw it way back when she was first revealed as the complainer.
hippocampus has been damaged and/or removed from both sides of the brain, only anterograde (after the event) memory ability is lost, retrograde memory access (memories laid down before the event) are preserved.
I had a patient, a 34 year old woman who has a cardiac arrest at home but was resuscitated.
She had no memory prior to waking up in the hospital. It was an amazing story.
I have the story in my book. She retained language and calculation but forgot everything in her past life including her children.
She became a volunteer at the hospital and I knew her for years. It would be interesting to see an fMRI on her.
Blasey Ford is a psychologist and so she is not expected to get the neuroscience right but why make these bizarre statements?
I very much doubt if CBF has much neuroscience training given that her doctorate is in Educational Psychology and she teaches at a school where Social Justice and Multiculturalism are the two highest priorities in their mission statement.
I had a fair amount of neuroscience training and worked with neuropsychologists who were specialists in memory disorders. One thing I learned is that our knowledge of how the brain functions is at a relatively primitive level and that our understanding is changing every year.
Any neuropsychologist who was trained 15 years ago or more needs to put a lot of effort into continuing education in order to stay current. What CBF knows about brain functions and memory are at the level of a casual reader of Psychology Today.
> "I initially thought she had recovered memories but I have come to the conclusion that she is lying."
#metoo.
This vid explains much about Ford's immersion in Social Justice and why she might lie to advance the cause.
Christine Ford Indoctrination Acadamy
http://theweek.com/speedreads/800702/brett-kavanaugh-just-hired-supreme-courts-first-allwomen-law-clerk-team
Stocking the larder.
“Btw, since Inga is resting her entire position on 'he didn't show the proper temperament for a judge presiding over a trial', weren't we told over and over that this wasn't a trial, it was just a job interview?
And btw, if it was just a job interview, any private corporation...”
Who said it was a “trial”? Not me. Also if any job applicant acted like that in a job interview he would be escorted out of the building by security.
Also if any job applicant acted like that in a job interview he would be escorted out of the building by security.
If any interviewer acted as the Dem Senators did they'd be fired. Maybe this suggests a job interview isn't quite the analogous forum you presented.
Also if any job applicant acted like that in a job interview he would be escorted out of the building by security.
If any company interviewer acted the way the SJC Democrats did, there would be a slam dunk winning lawsuit. The interviewer would also be immediately fired in order to protect company assets.
Ask anyone who works in corporate HR.
Inga has extensive experience with job interviews, as well as bed pans.
Those nursing home interviews are tough. Lots of questions about bed sores and diapers.
Most of the questions asked are actually illegal under federal law to ask a candidate. Some compnaies - like Microsoft - make damn sure you know what you can and cannot ask before you are ever let near a candidate in for a job interview. Getting fired for asking would be the least of your worries - at least at Microsft, where they tend to let the dumbass in such situations take the brunt of the fallout.
If it was a job interview, he acted it.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/independents-disapprove-of-democrats-handling-of-the-brett-kavanaugh-nomination-by-a-28-point-margin
Aced it, aced it.
10/8/18, 10:34 AM
Blogger Freder Frederson said...
We may have global warming. We may have global cooling. It is impossible to know.
Of course this is complete bullshit. Even without temperature data we have evidence of global warming. The most obvious and visible is the worldwide decline of glaciers (yes, there are a few that are growing but the vast majority, 95%, are shrinking) and ice sheets, especially in the arctic.
10/8/18, 10:34 AM
So your evidence of "global warming" is "95%..."of glaciers"....are declining? That's it????
You do know that we are just coming out of the "Little Ice Age" so yes, "glaciers are declining" since then (16th to 19th centuries). And thank God! Another 'Ice Age' will not be healthy for our planet or the people's inhabitants. But if you want to go back to the population of the planet back during the "Little Ice Age" to make sure we have "Glaciers" I think we'll wait for you to jump of the bridge first.
A new U.N. report suggests a $240 per gallon gas tax equivalent is needed to fight global warming.
The U.N. says a carbon tax would need to be as high as $27,000 per ton in the year 2100.
Time to feed the zoo animals with the UN.
Past time to throw them out of New York. I think their headquarters should rotate between places like Mogadishu, Pyongyang, etc.
Inga has extensive experience with job interviews, as well as bed pans.
I wonder if Inga has any friends in HR or if she knows what HR stands for.
It can be very frustrating to interview people under extremely risk averse HR policies. I understand why people should not be asked potentially discriminatory questions. However, the last place I worked HR made it nearly impossible to evaluate psychologists because they would not allow unstructured group interviews.
In my experience, the less structured the interview, the better you are able to look beyond their practiced answers. Our HR VP had a complaint from a (failed) candidate who was awful in her group interview. She had zero grounds, but threatened to sue. HR made us change our practice. The next candidate was hired under different circumstances and was one of the worst hires I have ever seen.
She was not only fired in less than a year, we sued her for breach of contract and filed a complaint for unethical behavior with the state licensing commission. She moved out of state to avoid losing her license.
I was talking this afternoon to another single woman who is outraged at what happened to Kavanaugh. I never bring it up but it is interesting. They volunteer it.
I am getting the feeling that this is 1994 again.
You do know that we are just coming out of the "Little Ice Age" so yes, "glaciers are declining" since then (16th to 19th centuries).
Evidence may eventually show that the invention of agriculture stopped the ice ages, at least for a while.
Over a several year period my wife and I went house hunting multiple times and put offers on 3 houses, none accepted. Years later she denies that we ever went house hunting or did the legal document thing. Then later she admits we did. Memory is not video tape. It is crap. I have watched star wars recently (the first 3) and was shocked that major scenes and plot elements did not ring a bell at all. But it was 40 years ago! Go to your 20 yr high school reunion and see how many people don't even look familiar.
Some years ago there was a hunt for the oldest people in the world. There seemed to be lots of old people in certain places like the mountains of Soviet Georgia. When they went there these people were certain they remembered things that would have made them 130 years old. All such places had in common that few people were literate and no one kept records. They "remembered" stories they heard as if they were there.
Memory is unreliable.
I remember when Althouse insisted on evidence not feelings.
See what I mean?
“Inga has extensive experience with job interviews, as well as bed pans.
Those nursing home interviews are tough. Lots of questions about bed sores and diapers.”
Michael K was sued so many times that he became a butcher, a natural progression from failed surgeon. Michael K seems to think he knows what fields I worked in during my 35 years of nursing, he seems to know what sort of degree I hold, he’s seems to think he knows a lot of things.
So, apparently, over 1400 women called the FBI over the last couple of months and told them that Kavanaugh raped them.
1400 rapes. Let's say over 30 years. That's 46 rapes a year. And not one of them was reported until he was up for the SC.
Tell me again that women don't lie about rape.
Whatcha say, Inga? How many of those 1400 rape reports do you believe? Or do you not believe all women?
It isn't at all easy to get from Bethesda-Chevy Chase to Potomac except by car and it isn't the kind of thing someone could automatically stumble through and forget.
There's no direct bus line and no subway. Ford said it was twenty minutes "as the crow flies" but for anyone except a crow the trip would have been extremely long - probably several hours because it would involve changing bus lines and waiting for the infrequent buses. She would have had to ask the first bus driver how to do it and then remembered all the complexities. Perhaps she was driven; it is still a long trip, it would be asking for a large favor to ask someone to drive her. She ran from the party so it wasn't the person who drove her over who drove her back. She could have walked back to the country club. This would have been no less than a mile in the DC heat and would have been an ordeal. Then once there, she would have had to ask someone for a big favor.
While she does all this she is supposedly in a trance like-state. It couldn't be done in a trance and it couldn't have been done (except by bus) without questions. So she is mistaken in her mind about what happened, when, how with who.
Seriously. That's averaging almost a rape a week for 30 frickin years. And not one of the victims thought to report it until two months ago.
Believe all women! That many accusations can't all be false!
And wait, what's that other statistic about how only 10% of rapes ever get reported or something? So Kavanaugh *really* raped FOURTEEN THOUSAND WOMEN in 30 years! That's like 1.2 raped women every single day for 30 years! And no one ever noticed.
Well, wait, they do admit that maybe 2% of all tape accusations are false. So, 13,720 real rapes and 280 false accusations.
I wonder how many kids he's got by now. Wow.
Yeah, just like a job interview. A job interview where you are accused of being a serial rapist by lying partisan hacks who are out to destroy your career, family and reputation.
I think we should just start calling Kavanaugh Quagmire. Gigity.
FALSE ACCUSATION
"The heartbroken mum of a teenager who took his own life after being accused of rape before the report was withdrawn has been found hanged in her family home.
The family of grief-stricken Karin Cheshire, 55, said she 'could not see a future' without son Jay Cheshire, 17, who took his own life after allegations of rape were made against him.
The complaint was withdrawn after two weeks but were said to have deeply affected Jay.
Karin had vowed to investigate the police's handling of the case but her family said she became 'vacant' and 'zombie-like' after his death.
The mum-of-two was found at her home in Southampton, Hampshire, on July 18 and an inquest into her death heard she had died in the same way as her son - asphyxiation as a result of hanging."
The heartbroken mum of a teenager who took his own life after being accused of rape before the report was withdrawn has been found hanged in her family home.
#HerToo is collateral damage of #MeToo
No one would hire Blasey Ford or Swetnick. No thinking person or caring person anyway.
FullMoon - Thanks - Great Video!
80% students are women at her university,
#1 goal / mission is social justice.
Gets worse from there...
Explains a lot.
I’m sure more will be coming out.
Drip, drip, drip....
I don’t think she expected to have to testify, as another commenter wrote, it was a bluff.
Michael K was sued so many times that he became a butcher, a natural progression from failed surgeon.
Read my book, Inga. I would even send you a free copy so you could see what you missed.
Poor thing. Those full bed pans really warped your mind. The smell, I know, much have been awful.
Inga, you could even order it through the Amazon portal here.
This terrific book is informally put together, like hanging out on a barstool listening to stories--but it's terrific. The author not only has a long and varied experience but an agile mind and a good heart. You realize quickly you're in the hands of a gentleman. An efficient storyteller, he finds the details to explain what went wrong or right in each case, what the results might mean for the development of medicine in general, and what he learned from the case. When events have proved him right, he never crows. When things don't go well, he's honest about whether he thinks he was at fault, and--without dwelling on his own emotional response--makes it clear how deeply he feels both the good and bad fortune of his patients even decades later. You'll find yourself wishing he were your doctor and your neighbor.
Go for it, Inga. You need a positive thing in your poor miserable life.
Sensible short video. Beginning to think Ford was lying from the get-go, not mistaking K for someone else
Michelle Malkin takes Cristine Ford Apart
Psychology studies are not science. Most cannot be reproduced.
Ford claimed the polygraph and her therapist notes were proof of her allegations. She was never asked about Kavanaugh in the polygraph, and refused to produce the results, and never produced therapist notes. We were expected to take her word, but she couldn't even remember if she gave her "summary" to a reporter, or the actual therapist notes and she couldn't remember who paid for the polygraph.
I think something happened, but when she was older, old enough to drive, and she drank more than one beer. I think when this incident happened, she drove herself home. It would have been a big deal to ask one of the very few people at the alleged gathering to leave early to bring her home with no reason. If she drove herself home, there was no such situation.
“Michael K was sued so many times that he became a butcher, a natural progression from failed surgeon.
Read my book, Inga. I would even send you a free copy so you could see what you missed.
Poor thing. Those full bed pans really warped your mind. The smell, I know, much have been awful.”
Michael, I know you’re an old dog, but you can learn this new trick. Do not demean my profession and I won’t demean yours. Do not lie about what I did in my career as a nurse and I won’t lie about you. Do you understand this? As a doctor do you not realize how despicable it is for you to speak this way about nursing? I am pretty sure some nurse some where saved your bacon from being sued. Stop with the nasty disrespect for the nursing profession, it is unbecoming for anyone in the medical field to demean nursing as you have, you should know better.
“Go for it, Inga. You need a positive thing in your poor miserable life.”
Jesus.
Michael K. You know absolutely nothing about my life. That you think you somehow know about my life to say my life was/is miserable only makes you appear to be a small, bitter, angry old man, who makes a lot of unfounded presumptions. My life is blessed with friends and family, a long career in a respected (by normal people) profession and happiness/ contentment in my retirement. I really don’t understand how you can make judgements about strangers’ lives that you interact with on the internet. On the other hand, the many times you’ve bashed your own children here on these threads, tells a different story about you. It is you who sounds miserable and unhappy and you seem to want to project that onto me. Why don’t you think about what your children might think if they heard how you speak to strangers on the internet, how you demean the nursing profession. I’ve warned you before about your continuous nasty attacks on nursing. If you persist I will return every insult with gusto, be sure of it.
Stop with the nasty disrespect for the nursing profession, it is unbecoming for anyone in the medical field to demean nursing as you have, you should know better.
Inga sweetheart,
It is not nursing that is being demeaned. It is you because you have repeatedly represented yourself as a childish idiot.
I think you know that but we have yet to find the full depth of your ignorance, arrogance and stupidity.
Why don’t you have one more drink Francisco, you come across as an alcoholic and a dry drunk when sober. Michael K has said time and again how psychologists are all crazy and they are too stupid to become psychiatrists.
John Henry
I'm used to CO2 in PPM. That's how submarine CAMS (Central Air Monitoring System) measures CO2. And CO. It's been a while, but I think O2 and H2 were measured as percentages.
If Ford did have a False Memory -- does this allow her to make a False Accusation without punishment?
I don't think so.
It shouldn't.
What about the Innocence Project experiences? Eyewitness misidentification was involved in something like 70% of the wrongful convictions they have remedied.
M Jordan said: "The real question for me that is what would make such a woman go before the nation and lie? Is she clinically mentally ill?"
I think one of the commonalities in this case and the Anita Hill case is that the accusers might not have seen themselves as successes. Most people see professors as elite, but if you came from prep school DC or Yale Law School, a professorship at a pedestrian school might be a disappointing life. Pulling down someone you knew who did go all the way to the top might provide some twisted satisfaction to such a person.
Shorter Freder: "Kavanaugh shouldn't be a Justice because he's a Republican and a total poopy-head, so there!"
I don't know if Ford or Kavanaugh are lying. Neither do you.
tim in vermont said...
The French have a saying that goes like "He is an evil beast, when attacked, he fights."
Cet animal est très méchant:
Quand on l’attaque, il se défend.
This animal is very wicked
When one attacks it, it defends itself
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