Althouse: At the Sunday Night Cafe...

October 21, 2018

At the Sunday Night Cafe...

... talk about anything you want.

75 comments:

mockturtle said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 10/21/18, 7:57 PM
Birkel said...: Four overtime game for the Cleveland Browns this season.
That must be a record.

A team that won one game over the last two seasons is competitive.
I would really like to see them have legitimate success this season.; 10/21/18, 8:09 PM
Ken B said...: The first comment has been deleted. Threadjacking a cafe?; 10/21/18, 8:32 PM
Birkel said...: No, Ken B.
It was a helpful comment that led to an Althouse typo correction.
mockturtle is a mensch.; 10/21/18, 8:46 PM
gspencer said...: Four overtime games for the Browns? Lets go glass-half-full - they're improving.; 10/21/18, 8:56 PM
FullMoon said...: Border refuges: What is their plan if Trump just lets them all in?

Thousands of un-employed, homeless Hondourans in Southern California. Then what?; 10/21/18, 9:03 PM
FIDO said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 10/21/18, 9:38 PM
FIDO said...: Judicial Watch is going after Ford's attorneys.

IIRC, Mueller decided to attack the attorneys of those he wants to investigate. A little prosecutorial extortion.

Well, right back at you!

The thing that pisses me off the most about this is those blithely sitting on the sidelines, supposedly above it all, even though they could clearly SEE how damaging this stuff is to our Trust based society.

And yet they stayed silent.

I hope those lawyers suffer.; 10/21/18, 9:39 PM
steve uhr said...: A caravan perfectly timed to help the republicans at the midterms. Coincidence?; 10/21/18, 9:42 PM
Sprezzatura said...: FIDO,

You seem really amped about this. Obviously you should send JW a donation. They're doing the work of the big guy upstairs. You must support them.

Do it online. STAT. At peak riled up-ness.; 10/21/18, 9:44 PM
Sprezzatura said...: If you don't give them money, yur part of the problem.

Go now.; 10/21/18, 9:45 PM
Big Mike said...: @steve uhr, I and a lot of other Republicans have assumed that the caravan was sponsored by backers of the Democrat party, in the hopes of embarrassing Donald Trump.; 10/21/18, 9:46 PM
Sprezzatura said...: Don't blithely stay silent. Give money to JW!; 10/21/18, 9:47 PM
Original Mike said...: Blogger steve uhr said...”A caravan perfectly timed to help the republicans at the midterms. Coincidence?”

LOL (really, I did); 10/21/18, 9:56 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: “@steve uhr, I and a lot of other Republicans have assumed that the caravan was sponsored by backers of the Democrat party, in the hopes of embarrassing Donald Trump.”

LOL.; 10/21/18, 9:56 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Hahaha, OM and I laughed at the same exact moment coming from opposite sides.; 10/21/18, 9:58 PM
WA-mom said...: These posts are all so serious. Well, change of pace...
I was thinking there could have been a very funny SNL sketch about the hecklers/protesters throwing Mitch McConnell's restaurant leftovers box out the door.; 10/21/18, 10:00 PM
Humperdink said...: It would appear the R's and the D's both think immigration is a winning issue.; 10/21/18, 10:05 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: “I was thinking there could have been a very funny SNL sketch about the hecklers/protesters throwing Mitch McConnell's restaurant leftovers box out the door.”

Or maybe one of Nancy Pelosi getting cursed at and being called a Communist at an event in Florida a couple of days ago.; 10/21/18, 10:15 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: By a mob of Proud Boys.; 10/21/18, 10:16 PM
narciso said...: She was palling around with a former staffer for Ron 'red' dellums, whose name was uncovered in the grenade papers which a Berkeley professor seagrave, collected.

As for the subject of this last kerfuffle not only did upbraided over 9/11 but he was cheering Islamic state as recently as 4 years ago; 10/21/18, 10:19 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: And Trump supporters.; 10/21/18, 10:20 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Pounding on the door like an angry mob. What did they plan to do if they could’ve gotten in there?; 10/21/18, 10:22 PM
narciso said...: You know how many ex political prisoners live in the little Havana area, who were tortured some of their colleagues executed, who spend 20 years and more, it's not a pose it was a deliberate insult to my people.; 10/21/18, 10:22 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Let’s not ever hear about liberals being violent angry mobs again from you people.; 10/21/18, 10:23 PM
Humperdink said...: "Let’s not ever hear about liberals being violent angry mobs again from you people."

I wouldn't hold your breath snowflake.; 10/21/18, 10:25 PM
narciso said...: This is the context surprisingly the press that has been 'manipulating' the Castro brothers didn't care to examine, I use a euphemism but the meaning is clear.

It's not surprising that prince talal wanted to build a mosque on the footprint of the towers.; 10/21/18, 10:28 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: it would be more like a reprise of SNL's "Claudine Longet's Invitational Ski Championship",
w/ the Republicans as contestants; 10/21/18, 10:28 PM
FIDO said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 10/21/18, 10:31 PM
FIDO said...: anti de-Sitter space (Is there a missing'h' somewhere there)

Actually, considering all the luv you've been sending my way, I almost feel honor bound to send you some rent, considering how much space I seem to be taking up in your head.

Sorry pal. No matter how much you flirt with me, the meat and 2 veg don't swing Left, and they don't go DC. But I certainly am complimented.; 10/21/18, 10:33 PM
narciso said...: Take huber Matos, he served 20 years in prison after fighting alongside Fidel, think of a colleague of Tito, who he had jailed.; 10/21/18, 10:33 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: "Let’s not ever hear about liberals being violent angry mobs again from you people."

“I wouldn't hold your breath snowflake.”

Humpy, make up your mind. Are liberals angry violent mobs or snowflakes? You seem confused.; 10/21/18, 10:34 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Real Clear Politics Generic Vote polls. Democrats up by +7,+5,+9, 10/13 - 10/17. What happened to the so called Kavanaugh bounce?; 10/21/18, 10:42 PM
narciso said...: You must know people who were victims of the udb right, people falsely identified as ustachi or chetniks; 10/21/18, 10:50 PM
Oso Negro said...: @ Inga - after a couple of years of a great economy, most Americans yearn for higher taxes, open borders, and a lot more homosexuality.; 10/21/18, 11:05 PM
walter said...: Inga claims the high ground.
She's very high.
That I can tell you.; 10/21/18, 11:12 PM
narciso said...: The same NBC poll has a 47/49 split but the congressional spread is 8 points, they must be on a rocky mountain high.; 10/21/18, 11:17 PM
Tyrone Slothrop said...: Inga...Allie Oop said...
Let’s not ever hear about liberals being violent angry mobs again from you people

Listen to Inga! Cussing out Great-grandma Pelosi is exactly like a liberal shooting Steve Scalise.; 10/21/18, 11:19 PM
Ken B said...: FIDO
I think you have missed the point. The lawyers did NOT deceive her, they DID tell her. It's her testimony that is untrue. The lawyers, by denying the charge, have shown they won’t take the hit, if an investigation comes out it will cast doubt on Ford, not them.; 10/21/18, 11:22 PM
Ken B said...: Shorter Uhr: “Churchill got Hitler to invade just to make Chamberlain look bad.”; 10/21/18, 11:24 PM
Ken B said...: Inga
I agree: contemptible thiuggery. Nice to see you START TO condemn such stuff. In retrospect, perhaps you'll condemn the Scalise shooting, or the Paul mugging.; 10/22/18, 12:09 AM
Drago said...: Tyrone: "Listen to Inga! Cussing out Great-grandma Pelosi is exactly like a liberal shooting Steve Scalise."

Our words are violence.

Their bullets are messages of love.; 10/22/18, 12:09 AM
Freeman Hunt said...: If you're already extremely cynical when it comes to politics, watching All the King's Men (1949) one night and Chappaquiddick the next will not help.; 10/22/18, 12:15 AM
Big Mike said...: @Humperdink, here in the Virginia 10th Congressional District the Democrat candidate put out a negative ad claiming that the incumbent Republican, Barbara Comstock, “voted with Donald Trump 97.8% of the time.” Comstock turned that around and is running ads proclaiming that she has been with Trump 97.8%. One of them is seriously mistaken about the electorate.; 10/22/18, 12:16 AM
walter said...: Do these polls have some sort of metric to factor right leaning voters avoiding polls?; 10/22/18, 1:22 AM
FIDO said...: Ken B,

Much like Iraq vs Iran, Asians vs Harvard, or Blacks vs Feminists, Ford v her lawyers has no downside for me and is muchly entertaining.; 10/22/18, 5:18 AM
BUMBLE BEE said...: "The March"... The libruls gotta love it, More waste, more gasoline, more temporary housing, more food to be grown, old fouling vehicles to drive, sickness, gangs, crime, welfare. These people recycle, don't they?; 10/22/18, 5:25 AM
Amadeus 48 said...: Wait a minute. What we need are some Crying Babies at the Border! Then we can run pictures of the 101st Airborne escorting the Little Rock Nine to school in 1957 versus US troops keeping Crying Babies out of the US in 2018. Oh, the humanity!!

Three...two...one...; 10/22/18, 5:33 AM
Amadeus 48 said...: Glenn Loury in his recent Bloggingheads TV show with John McWhorter (McWhorter has gone full Inga on Kavanaugh, by the way. Eek!):

"Tell me exactly why black Americans have any interest in an open borders immigration policy."; 10/22/18, 5:40 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 10/22/18, 5:44 AM
Humperdink said...: Oppie said: "Let’s not ever hear about liberals being violent angry mobs again from you people."

Hump responded: “I wouldn't hold your breath snowflake.”

Oopie further responded: "Humpy, make up your mind. Are liberals angry violent mobs or snowflakes? You seem confused."

Oopie, Oopie, Oopie, it would appear discernment of the political landscape is not your strong suit. It's pretty clear the Commie-pinko lefties are comprised are more than one group (think diversity *cough*). You have the scream-at-the-sky segment comprised of people such as yourself (read: snowflakes). You also have the Antifa battalion (think mafia hitmen .... er .... hit people). And these are only two of many.; 10/22/18, 5:44 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: "A caravan perfectly timed to help the republicans at the midterms. Coincidence?"

It is, apparently, well documented that money changed hands. Those on the conservative side have assumed that it was the usual left wing billionaire financed AstroTurf operation. George Soros is famous for this sort of thing, but others, like Tom Styer, have also apparently engaged in this sort of AstroTurf operation. Illegal immigration though seems to be much more a Soros thing, which is why I expect him to top the list of potential instigators here.

But, as you suggest, this is unlikely to help the Dems here. For one thing, coming from Central America, it is likely to include at least some violent criminal elements, such as MS-13. And that would feed right into Trump's narrative about some of the recent illegals are really bad people. Probably nothing could focus Trump's supporters more to get to the polls and vote Republican, so that we can Build That Wall, than an army of Central Americans attacking our borders right before the election, defended by a thin line of our military. So, maybe some deep pocketed conservatives are following the lead of Soros, Steyer, etc, and are financing this attack on our national sovereignty to help the Republicans hold Congress, but there really aren't the multitude of well financed, billionaire funded, cutout and front organizations yet on the right, as there are on the left. In other words, the left has the infrastructure in place to pull off this sort of AstroTurf operation. The right probably does not. Which is to say that it is also very possibly a strategic screwup by someone like Soros. At this point we really don't know - all we really know is that it was very likely far from spontaneous.; 10/22/18, 5:49 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: "Oppie said: "Let’s not ever hear about liberals being violent angry mobs again from you people."

#IngaNPC #JobsNotMobs; 10/22/18, 5:54 AM
rhhardin said...: Abandoned Kroger shopping list:
penne pasta
spicy psta sauce
7up
hawaiian punch
plates (small & large)
thyme
red pepper flakes
cayenne
drinks
ital bread
roma tomato
ital cheese blend (6 cups)
choc ice cream
vanilla ice cream; 10/22/18, 6:56 AM
MayBee said...: Whoever organizes the migrant caravans should be arrested for human trafficking.; 10/22/18, 6:57 AM
narciso said...: I thought I could have a common understanding with inga, as fellow refugees from totalitarianism my mistake, wont make that again:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra; 10/22/18, 7:07 AM
gilbar said...: Tyrone: "Listen to Inga! Cussing out Great-grandma Pelosi is exactly like a liberal shooting Steve Scalise."

it's NOT Exactly like! To Igna Cussing out Pelosi is a Million, Billion, Trillion times WORSE!; 10/22/18, 7:09 AM
Ignorance is Bliss said...: Amadeus 48 said...

Wait a minute. What we need are some Crying Babies at the Border!

Trump should have the military meet them at the border, load them into trucks, and transport them 1000 miles north to the Canadian border. Tell them they can either continue north, or be immediately deported back to whatever shithole they came from.; 10/22/18, 7:18 AM
Big Mike said...: Are liberals angry violent mobs or snowflakes? You seem confused.

The confusion is entirely in Inga’s mind. The snowflake phenomenon is just another form of bullying. Think of the snowflake mob that drove Prof. Nicholas Christakis and his wife off the Yale campus.; 10/22/18, 7:35 AM
Big Mike said...: Which is to say that it is also very possibly a strategic screwup by someone like Soros. At this point we really don't know - all we really know is that it was very likely far from spontaneous.

@Bruce Hayden, excellent analysis as usual. The soccer term “own goal” seems to be a common phenomenon these days, so that’s the side of Occam’s razor I fall on.; 10/22/18, 7:44 AM
tim in vermont said...: Remember when Obama closed the door on refugees from Cuba where the Cubans have snipers to catch swimmers trying to escape to Guantanamo? Good times...; 10/22/18, 7:44 AM
tim in vermont said...: The walls illiberals love are the kinds built to keep happy workers in their paradise.; 10/22/18, 7:47 AM
narciso said...: Dimelo (tell me about it) Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon were all up in arms about Gitmo when it concerned Haitians, after 94 nothing till 2002.; 10/22/18, 7:49 AM
donald said...: Marty Stuart and the Fabulous Superlatives with Roger McGuinn and Chris Hillman is the greatest idea ever.; 10/22/18, 8:07 AM
donald said...: There’s a big difference between shooting and attacking people as opposed to a singular incident of strong words toots.; 10/22/18, 8:09 AM
wildswan said...: Separate out the women with children and the unaccompanied children. Send the unaccompanied children to the Honduran capital by plane and bus them from the airport to the cathedral. Two days later send the women with children to the cathedral. Two days later send the men.; 10/22/18, 8:19 AM
TrespassersW said...: Does Planned Parenthood really think that that picture of RBG in the sidebar ad is flattering?; 10/22/18, 9:48 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: "Separate out the women with children and the unaccompanied children. Send the unaccompanied children to the Honduran capital by plane and bus them from the airport to the cathedral. Two days later send the women with children to the cathedral. Two days later send the men."

Except that a significant number of unaccompanied children from Central America turn out to be MS-13 gang members. I would, therefore, keep unaccompanied adolescent males with the adult males.; 10/22/18, 10:22 AM
mockturtle said...: Let the migrants in and bus them all to sanctuary cities. More specifically, in Pelosi's and Waters' neighborhoods.; 10/22/18, 10:37 AM
Bruce Hayden said...: NBC is running a story that a Catholic oriented group is behind the convoy. They apparently carry a cross, and do the Catholic Stations of the Cross thing as they go on.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/who-s-behind-migrant-caravan-drew-trump-s-ire-n862566?fbclid=IwAR3yxjFmgvodIYqfuYcaPJpaLla1iUlS9ADwDTSctcWFYPQ5B5JhLxHfu9Y

Except that the close up photos show the convoy is mostly late adolescent and older males, and not the families with young children and LGBT (which is the dead giveaway that the NBC article is propaganda). Which historically and culturally makes more sense. Late adolescent and young adult males have traditionally been the people most likely sent by societies to colonize new areas. Note, that is precisely what is going on with the Muslim invasion of Europe right now. This has been happening throughout history. In my case, the first illegal immigrants I ever met was a little over 40 years ago working at a brick factory in Boulder, CO. Most of the hard work was done but illegal Mexicans, who would come north for 8-9 months, work hard, then go back to Mexico for the winter, when the plant was shut down, and live like kings. While their males were working hard here, their families back in Mexico could afford servants.; 10/22/18, 10:58 AM
mockturtle said...: Stop remittances and the whole problem with disappear. Honduras gets almost half a billion USD in remittances every year! So, just as with Mexico and Guatemala, emigration is profitable.; 10/22/18, 11:06 AM
Birkel said...: The polls to which Inga refers are mostly "registered voters" and therefore will overstate the case for Democrats.

Likely voters sub-scores within those polls, on average, show Democrats within the margin of error.

Blue wave bye bye.; 10/22/18, 12:34 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: I don't see how thousands of men marching on our border with Mexico will help the Democrats.; 10/22/18, 12:42 PM
Jim at said...: Let’s not ever hear about liberals being violent angry mobs again from you people. - Inga the Thug

Let me know when we start shooting up Democrats at baseball practices.; 10/22/18, 2:04 PM
donald said...: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IS7xPPcR4Bc

Whoot.; 10/22/18, 7:11 PM