September 24, 2018

With the devious use of the disjunctive "or," Michael Avenatti raises a cloud of "gang rape" suspicion around Brett Kavanaugh.

I'm reading the shockingly titled Daily News article "Brett Kavanaugh and pals accused of gang rapes in high school, says lawyer Michael Avenatti."
“We are aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C. area during the early 1980s during which Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs in order to allow a ‘train’ of men to subsequently gang rape them,” Avenatti said in an email to Mike Davis, chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Gang rape??!!!

Yes, Avenatti wrote "gang rape" in his email to the Committee. And not just one gang rape — multiple gang rapes. What is the sudden, breakout hysteria?!
Avenatti did not disclose any details or identities of his witnesses.
All eyes on Avenatti. What a trickster this man is! Let's look at what he dropped on the public last night, just as we were hearing the weird new allegation that came out in The New Yorker. We'd barely had the chance to begin to process the story of a Yale college woman who, while seemingly too drunk to be sure if she was looking at a real penis or a fake one, saw Brett Kavanaugh pulling up his pants and heard — as she remembers it — somebody say his name. And then along came Avenatti to waggle his teaser at us. Boldface added:
Avenatti hinted at the nature of his allegations when he suggested to the Senate Judiciary Committee a series of questions to ask Kavanaugh.

One of his questions: “Did you ever target one or more women for sex or rape at a house party? Did you ever assist Mark Judge or others in doing so?”

Also, Avenatti suggested asking Kavanaugh: “Did you ever attend any house party during which a woman was gang raped or used for sex by multiple men?”

And: “Did you ever witness a line of men outside a bedroom at any house party where you understood a woman was in the bedroom being raped or taken advantage of?”

Avenatti also said Kavanaugh should be asked if he ever tried to prevent men from raping or taking advantage of women at any house party....
Are those the questions Avenatti used when collecting his witnesses — with "rape" never asked about independently from "sex" (or the strange locution "taken advantage of")?

Should Kavanaugh opponents welcome Avenatti's entrance onto this scene? I hear in him the echoes of a longstanding fight against fraternities and the accusation that they are a conspiracy of rapists. We got deeply into this issue back when Rolling Stone published its piece on the University of Virginia which turned out into a fiasco for those who sprung at an opportunity to describe a specific incident to stand in for all the bad behavior they wanted to alarm us about. Here we go again. I assume — but what do I know? — that there is horrible sex going on in the context of college drinking parties. I assume a lot of young women and men get hurt. They are used for sex and taken advantage of and — especially if you broadly define the word — raped.

You could cast aspersions on every man who ever belonged to a fraternity that held drinking parties. But should that serious problem be suddenly dumped on Brett Kavanaugh?

What Avenatti is doing resonates with something I wrote on September 18th: "The question that can destroy Brett Kavanaugh: Have you ever been so drunk you could not remember what happened?"

College happened. There is a drinking culture. It's tied to cheap, drunken sex. Can Kavanaugh assure us that he was never anywhere close to that?

Are you and everyone you care about free of the fraternity gang rape stink? If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man who had drunken sex in college?

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MathMom said...

From Charlie Martin:

Okay, so we're up to Kavanaugh and Mark Judge supposedly pimping out drug-addled high school girls to pull a train with classmates without anyone mentioning it for 36 years. Do the accusations of satanic abuse and child sacrifice hold off until Wednesday, do you think?

Big Mike said...

I can imagine a world of peace and love and brotherhood, but there are no Democrats there.

The Vault Dweller said...

I asked my Magic Eightball if the author if author of the article, Kate Feldman, is a serial child abuser and pedophile. The answer was unclear. This raises the possibility that she has done and is continuing to do some pretty horrific things. Time to get the warrants and start the investigation.

rhhardin said...

They're doing a reachability analysis over the American female population with disjunctive partitioning.

Henry said...

We're long past the point where the alleged crimes must have witnesses.

Anonymous said...

Sigh. I would say the inmates are running the asylum, but that would be an insult to inmates.

Bay Area Guy said...

A last minute flood of flawed, vague, sexually-charged allegations designed to smear Kavanaugh, delay the vote and ultimately torpedo his confirmation. High school, college dorm, and now more high school hijinx. We need more FBI investigations going back to junior high, they bellow! Throw up enough dirt at him, something, anything will stick.

In other words, standard operating procedures for Democrat activists.

Hmmm. Why am I not surprised....

Gahrie said...

@MM I was about to post that tweet.

Gahrie said...

At this point how long until the democrats start pushing to impeach Kavanagh from his current seat? They have to at this point don't they?

Birkel said...

His official title is "Creepy Porn Lawyer Michael Avenatti who is a tax cheat" I think.

MayBee said...

Apparently, the press will now print anything in service to Roe v Wade.

zipity said...

I'm a bit disappointed in Althouse for giving this slime ball the time of day.

I have to go take a shower after even typing that scum bags name. Avenatti.

Etienne said...

You can't reason with barbarians.

They want your country, they want you dead, and they enjoy the lamentations of the women.

Steve M. Galbraith said...

If you truly think your opponent is evil and that thousands of women will literally die - yes die - if Kavanaugh is confirmed then why wouldn't you attack him this way?

And there are clearly people who do believe those things. It's only surprising really that it's only been these few allegations.

Gahrie said...

Why didn't any of this come up when the Democrats were trying to keep Kavanagh off the Court of Appeals?

MayBee said...

Wouldn't the more modern version of the Handmaid's tale involve women being sex slaves and then forced to have abortions?

I'm pro-choice, but the idea of men who just love abortion and will do anything to hold onto it are pretty creepy, no?

Mr. D said...

Top Ten Other Things Brett Kavanaugh Has Done:

10. "Mr. Brett" at McMartin Pre-School

9. Helped Jack Johnson violate the Mann Act

8. Shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die

7. Mocked Chuck Schumer by singing "The Name Game" using Schumer's moniker while at a Yale party

6. Allowed Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle to take the rap for him

5. Physically abused his Sierra Club activist girlfriend

4. Left a woman to drown in an Oldsmobile

3. Shot President Reagan to impress Yale classmate Jodie Foster

2. Gave Sheldon Whitehouse the finger at the Giant Food in the Westwood Shopping Center in Bethesda

1. Had sex with Stormy Daniels while wearing a Donald Trump mask

I would expect Sen. Hirono to level further charges anon.

MayBee said...

Steve M. Galbraith said...
If you truly think your opponent is evil and that thousands of women will literally die - yes die - if Kavanaugh is confirmed then why wouldn't you attack him this way?


I agree, but the press doesn't need to cater to their instability.

Laslo Spatula said...

This is what happens when cruel neutrality is forsaken for women über alles.

This is the world the fellow travelers of Althouse's feminism have created.

From Wiki:

"The Pottery Barn rule is an American expression alluding to a policy of "you break it, you bought it" or "you break it, you buy it" or "you break it, you remake it", by which a retail store holds a customer responsible for damage done to merchandise on display. It generally "encourages customers to be more careful when handling property that's not theirs". It is an analogy often used in the political or military arena to suggest that if an actor inadvertently creates a problem, the actor is obliged to provide the resources necessary to correct it."

I am Laslo.

Lloyd W. Robertson said...

Since there will never be a real investigation, by any law enforcement agency, of any of the allegations, it seems best for the Senate to vote on Kavanaugh as quickly as possible. There is a presumption in favour of letting Ford testify, if she actually does so by the end of this week, based on all the to and fro since July. By comparison there is no reason to let Ramirez testify--it is pure sensationalism. Just vote. Do the Reps have any leverage to make a deal with the Dems: a quick vote on Amy Barrett, who was confirmed for the Circuit Court by this same Senate less than two years ago?

Matt Sablan said...

Sue Avenatti.

Let's end this.

info@ysb said...

Creepy Porn Lawyer

Michael K said...

I just wonder who is paying this smear merchant. I can guess.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

Gahrie said...
Why didn't any of this come up when the Democrats were trying to keep Kavanagh off the Court of Appeals?

They weren't worried about the Blue Wave turning into an ebb tide back then.

MayBee said...

Steve M. Galbraith said...
If you truly think your opponent is evil and that thousands of women will literally die - yes die - if Kavanaugh is confirmed then why wouldn't you attack him this way?


I mean, there are people who truly believe the world is flat and there are lizard people in the government. But the press doesn't give them column space and legitimate coverage.

tim maguire said...

Kavanaugh is now part of a grooming gang? Getting more desperate. Which means they know they've lost.

Laslo Spatula said...

Due process?

Accusations made under oath?

Evidently, that stuff is just civility bullshit.

I am Laslo.

Matt Sablan said...

"They have to at this point don't they?"

-- If they were serious, they'd have done so as soon as Ford went public. They're not. They don't even believe this will hold up to scrutiny.

Matt Sablan said...

"Why didn't any of this come up when the Democrats were trying to keep Kavanagh off the Court of Appeals?"

-- Because Avenatti, Ace Attorney!, was not on the case.

Big Mike said...

To the extent that any woman, Althouse included, who believe this crap it is a sign that many women need learn to think with their heads and not their vaginas.

Laslo Spatula said...

If this is what our system is now, I think I would prefer Insect Politics.

I am Laslo.

Matt Sablan said...

"Since there will never be a real investigation, by any law enforcement agency, of any of the allegations, it seems best for the Senate to vote on Kavanaugh as quickly as possible."

-- Local Maryland police have offered to investigate if Ford puts in a complaint, since there are no statute of limitations there, apparently, on sexual assault.

tim maguire said...

MayBee said...I mean, there are people who truly believe the world is flat and there are lizard people in the government. But the press doesn't give them column space and legitimate coverage.

But, of course, most journalists are among those who think Kavanaugh will kick off an anti-woman holocaust.

Matt Sablan said...

Ramirez's accusations are almost as weak or weaker than Ford's, seeing as she couldn't even remember being assaulted until some Democrat lawyers helped her remember not just the assault but also that Kavanaugh did it.

Fabi said...

It's time to check the tags on every mattress at the Kavanaugh residence.

Dave Begley said...

Great work Mr. D.

Millions of decent Americans will vote GOP in November because of these smear campaigns.

And the most epic defamation lawsuit brought by a public figure will BK numerous Dems starting with the creepy porn lawyer and Debra Katz. These lies are all told with reckless disregard for the truth.

rhhardin said...

They can't just vote because the goal is to reduce the support for Kavanaugh among women in the state of the weakest senators, and there are three such senators who will vote no. If they vote without resolving the issue to get state support back, Kavanaugh will lose.

Dave Begley said...

Ramirez was paid. In those six days in which her memory was unclear, a large amount of bitcoin was transferred to her. The FBI can track bitcoin transactions. I hope the FBI does investigate as this is where they should start.

Mark this comment. I'm dead serious here.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

They weren't worried about the Blue Wave turning into an ebb tide back then.

Also Feinstein had her party's endorsement back then. (Which is what I think all of this is about. Hironon and some of the others are just jumping on the bandwagon.)

rhhardin said...

The strategy depends on the venality of the most woman-sensitive republican senators.

HoodlumDoodlum said...

Let's see what the nice centrist people do with this. I have a bad feeling the nice centrist people are going to accept these terrible smears wholesale or at the very minimum say some idiotic thing like "well where there's smoke there must be fire so even if this isn't true something like it must be." I mean they already take the line that he's "too good" and hold that against him, ridiculous as that is.

But maybe I'm wrong and the nice centrist people will surprise me and reject this shit. I guess we'll see.

Ann Althouse said...

I'm just commenting to mark the time when I put up the first post. Originally, it was a "MORE TO COME" unfinished post.

rhhardin said...

Where there's smoke, there's mirrors.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...


“Top Ten Other Things Brett Kavanaugh Has Done:

10. "Mr. Brett" at McMartin Pre-School”

This occurred to me last night. The Dems have charged into Satanic Day Care territory. What happens after you charge into Satanic Day Care territory and suddenly realize it’s making you a laughingstock? Why, you pretend you’ve never heard of Satanic Day Care, never believed a word of it, it wasn’t you, it was those people over there.

Democrats believe women are Kleenex.

Levi Starks said...

Well, they’ve certainly raised character assassination to a high art form.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

Dave Begley said...
Ramirez was paid. In those six days in which her memory was unclear, a large amount of bitcoin was transferred to her. The FBI can track bitcoin transactions. I hope the FBI does investigate as this is where they should start.

And predictably; the people she named as witnesses don't remember a thing.

MayBee said...

Althouse: College happened. There is a drinking culture. It's tied to cheap, drunken sex. Can Kavanaugh assure us that he was never anywhere close to that?

I really need to know what you mean by asking that.

Etienne said...

Women who are not chaperoned in public are prostitutes.

The law is firm on prostitution.

Matt Sablan said...

"And predictably; the people she named as witnesses don't remember a thing."

-- At some point, this should be damning to an accusation.

MayBee said...

tim Maguire: But, of course, most journalists are among those who think Kavanaugh will kick off an anti-woman holocaust.

Hahahaha, right?
But again I have to ask....if you really wanted to abuse women, would you make them stay pregnant and raise babies? Or would you use them for sex and then pay for their abortions? How did the idea that men who are willing to do anything to keep abortion are the pro-women people?

rcocean said...

Note: The Real purpose of all this crap,, is to give the wavering, traitorous, RINO's and fake moderate Red State Dems Senators an out.

Before this, how could a Fake-Moderate Dem Senator up for re-election OR Collins, her "sister" Murkowski, and flaky Flake have justified a no vote? Now, they have something to hang their hat on.

Its all lies and bullshit, but who cares about the truth? Certainly not the MSM or the Democrats.

campy said...

"Do the Reps have any leverage

No. It's over. The resistance has won a total victory. Even if the repubs keep the house & senate in 2018 and reelect Trump in 2020, they're still a dead party walking.

MeatPopscicle1234 said...

What Avanatti is doing is trying to do by laying down such an outrageous claim is normalize the other accusations so that they seem more plausible, as compared to his... this shifts the discussion and plants enough seeds of doubt that the initial charges start to appear possible... doesn’t matter that there is zero evidence for any of this... it’s all about public perception and delaying the confirmation of as long as possible...

Laslo Spatula said...

"What is the sudden, breakout hysteria?!"

For me it partially coincided with accusations of rampant alcohol amnesia on the part of men's theoretical answers to questions about events that have no time or place.

"Should Kavanaugh opponents welcome Avenatti's entrance onto this scene?"

I don't know: should you?

The 'gang rape' accusation is finally ridiculous enough for Althouse to begin a pivot. Unfortunately, the cruel neutrality bowl has already been broken.

Again:

"The Pottery Barn rule is an American expression alluding to a policy of "you break it, you bought it" or "you break it, you buy it" or "you break it, you remake it", by which a retail store holds a customer responsible for damage done to merchandise on display. It generally "encourages customers to be more careful when handling property that's not theirs". It is an analogy often used in the political or military arena to suggest that if an actor inadvertently creates a problem, the actor is obliged to provide the resources necessary to correct it." -- Wiki

I am Laslo.

rcocean said...

Of course, if McConnell had supported Roy Moore instead of trying to defeat him, we'd have an extra 2 vote margin, instead of 1 vote margin.

But hey, who cares about winning?

Meade said...

"Are you and everyone you care about free of the fraternity gang rape stink? If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man [and woman] who had drunken sex in college?"

AllenS said...

It's quite apparent why the Founding Fathers didn't want women to vote.

Levi Starks said...

Anyone who gets caught up in the outrage of this current political situation is missing out on an exceptional learning opportunity.

traditionalguy said...

Stopping drunken heterosexuals from gang rapes will cause a big hit on the Abortion Industry's business. I blame 100 proof vodka.

Matt Sablan said...

"Of course, if McConnell had supported Roy Moore instead of trying to defeat him, we'd have an extra 2 vote margin, instead of 1 vote margin."

-- Hilariously enough, part of Avenatti's evidence is a year book in which Kavanaugh used a bunch of extra Fs in Fourth of July. Who would have guessed that two judges in a few years would be undone by high school yearbooks!

Fernandinande said...

White men are bad.

MayBee said...

I mean yes, men can say some women want to be able to have abortions and so I support that for women. You can say, I don't want to be a father until I'm ready so I support abortion.
But how did we decide the guys who aren't for abortion are the creepy women haters? We've definitely moved past the era of men wanting 15 children at home to work on the farm (unless, of course, you are in a weird cult with the Jeffs)

HoodlumDoodlum said...

But Mike Pence is creepy and wrong for his Puritanical ways, right nice centrist women?

What a stupid time.

Curious George said...

Even this isn't a bridge too far for Althouse.

Dave Begley said...

Joshua Barker nails the rhetoric and public perception of this.

"Kavanaugh's been accused of gang rape so there must be something to this. If there's smoke, then there's fire."

The Deep Game here is that ALL of these charges against a sitting judge were made with reckless disregard for the truth. That is, actual malice. These people are lying and they were paid to lie. These people need to be destroyed.

Again, the liar in the Omaha Franklin Credit Union case went to the state pen for perjury. She lied about sex with the Omaha police chief, the publisher of the OWH and a very fine district court judge that I knew.

MayBee said...

I like Meade's version better.

I'm a woman. I and I alone am accountable for my actions.

rcocean said...

I still trying to figure out, why drunken male students are responsible for their behavior, while drunken female students are not.

Female Privilege?

Darrell said...

Now this can be seen in public. Not-so-long ago, it couldn't.

If the charges against Kavanaugh had any merit--and could be proven--the Democrats would have saved them to use as blackmail material like they did with Roberts. Better a puppet for the Left than a mortal enemy.

MayBee said...

Meade said...
"Are you and everyone you care about free of the fraternity gang rape stink? If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man [and woman] who had drunken sex in college?"


Thank you, Meade.

MayBee said...

rcocean said...
I still trying to figure out, why drunken male students are responsible for their behavior, while drunken female students are not.


They are if they choose to drive. Just not if they choose to have sex.

Steve M. Galbraith said...

Can Kavanaugh assure us that he was never anywhere close to that?

This is, to pick an extreme analogy only to make my point, like asking: "Are you now or have you ever been anywhere close to the Communist Party?" Even McCarthy didn't go that far.

How does he "assure us" that he was "never anywhere close"? That's an impossible standard. It's not only proving a negative it's proving a possible negative.

I really think you didn't mean to write that, Althouse?

rcocean said...

Today, NPR is leading their story with "Kavanaugh accused of exposing himself to women"

Tomorrow: "Kavanaugh accused of gang rape"

Lie by summation.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

When will the mass murder rap hit?

MayBee said...

I too want Althouse to explain that, SMG. Althouse, your readers are once again not understanding you (or perhaps, afraid that we are understanding you)

Caroline said...

In a drunken encounter, only men are responsible for their behavior.

Darrell said...

I bet people regret taking salt peter out of luncheon meat at around this time.

Curious George said...

"rcocean said...
Today, NPR is leading their story with "Kavanaugh accused of exposing himself to women""

Reality: "Democrats Produce Kavanaugh Lying Skankwhore #2"

Laslo Spatula said...

"Can Kavanaugh assure us that he was never anywhere close to that?"

Assure "US"? Seeing the lack of evidence, and no accusations under of oath, I do not feel a need to be "reasssured".

How close is "never anywhere close to that?" At the same school? In the same state? In the same era? Or perhaps alphabetically, in which case we need a list of the horrible men with last names beginning with the letters 'J' through 'L'? Which -- by the way -- already begins to spell JaiL!

Can we ask if Sontameyer was "never anywhere close" to anyone affiliated with a Latin Gang or criminal activity? Because Men = sexual predators and Latins = gang members, right?

You break it, you bought it.

I am Laslo.

rhhardin said...

The teacher in middle school said that in spanish culture it's assumed that any man and woman together unchaperoned will have sex. I didn't take spanish so don't know firsthand.

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Darrell said...

It was a simpler time when you could go up to a woman and say "Spread your gams, Baby, I'm going to ball you silly."

Bay Area Guy said...

"If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man who had drunken sex in college?"

On behalf of all men who had drunken sex in college, I say Hell No!

FIDO said...

Avenatti has as much evidence, credibility and as many witnesses as Ford or Ramirez had, so I am at a loss as to why Althouse doesn't offer him the same credulity that she freely offered the first two.


Is it because he is a man? Or he doesn't have a husband to assert he is upset?

Original Mike said...

I didn’t think even the democrats would go this low.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

“I just wonder who is paying this smear merchant. I can guess.”

Given that he makes the whole thing even more absurd than it already was, I’d guess Trump. In any time other the era of the Golden Shower Left, it would be fair to think someone was armoring themselves with layers of their opponent’s assumed hysterics.

Michael K said...

Blogger Curious George said...
Even this isn't a bridge too far for Althouse.


Yes, it is amazing to see an educated woman buying all this.

If the Democrats succeed in this gang rape of an honest man, there will be no rules going forward.

It will be war.

MountainMan said...

The more this goes on the less I believe any of it. These last allegations, in the New Yorker and from Avenatti, are ridiculous and now I question even more the Ford allegations, especially since her alleged witnesses have all given testimony, subject to perjury, that it never happened. This is all nothing but a hatchet job to force Kavanaugh to withdraw or be withdrawn and to permanently destroy his career and his family, as well as to set an example for anyone else thinking of accepting an appointment from Trump.

This is not new, it has been going on for a while, people have not given it the attention it deserves, other than Bork and Thomas. I had not realized until I did some reading over the weekend that after the abuse that Miguel Estrada went through during his attempted confirmation his wife was so distraught that she suffered a miscarriage, developed a drinking problem, and later died from a drug overdose, ruled "accidental" but also believed to have been suicide. As far as the Dems go this is just one of those eggs that had to be broken to make an omelet. I feel sorry for Kavanaugh's wife and children having to endure this.

This is totalitarianism. This is the result of the Obama Administration's "transformation of America." Hanson has a nice article out today at American Greatness about how, despite all his failures in domestic and foreign policy, Obama actually won by moving the country toward a totalitarian socialist state.

I have been telling my wife for several years that if the Democrats ever get the control of the three branches of our government that they so desperately want we might have to consider emigration. She used to think I was crazy. Over the past two weeks she has come to realize that is not so crazy after all.

Anyone who votes for any Democrat is a goddamn fool.

sinz52 said...

MayBee asks: "But how did we decide the guys who aren't for abortion are the creepy women haters?"

What I've seen increase in recent decades--on BOTH the Left and the Right--is the idea that your political views are indicative of your personal character. That is, if you agree with me politically, you are more likely to be a more moral and decent person than if you disagree with me.

The idea that decent people can disagree sharply on political issues is ruled out of bounds. And that is the poisonous result of this so-called "culture war," where moral issues like abortion and homosexuality became political issues. It's real hard to convince a devout Christian evangelical or a gay couple that decent, moral people can disagree strongly with their views.

Anonymous said...

Should Kavanaugh opponents welcome Avenatti's entrance onto this scene?

Don't know about "should", but some of them certainly are. I've seen prog threads serenely discussing this stuff, as they do the Ford stuff, as if there is absolutely nothing crazy or the least bit dubious in any of it. No skepticism, no critical overview re "what it's about". Nope, it's all on the up and up to them, they see nothing but hard-working, honorable lawyers and public servants working to bring justice to women abused by the White Male Patriarchy.

To them, Avenatti is a just a fine, first-rate lawyer with a track record of backing up all his claims. So it's entirely plausible that Kavanaugh is a gang-rapist, and of course it would be an abomination if we allowed the Retuhuglikkkans to put a KNOWN GANG RAPIST on the Supreme Court.

You think the Avenatti stuff is over the top? Well, I think most sane, normal people think the Ford stuff is utter bullshit. You're underestimating the craziness and pathological gullibility of the population selling and buying this stuff.

Fernandinande said...

In a simpler time you could pile rocks on someone under the pretense of making them confess.

rhhardin said...

They're not after belief but enough poll drop so that a couple squishy repubs vote no.

The poll responds to soap opera women. The news responds to soap opera women.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Can we ask if Sontameyer was "never anywhere close" to anyone affiliated with a Latin Gang or criminal activity? "

Answer!

In a review of MY BELOVED WORLDBy Sonia Sotomayor; Alfred A. Knopf; 315 pages; $27.95:

"...Surrounded through adolescence by drugs, gangs, hopelessness, and poverty in rough Bronx neighborhoods, Sotomayor lost her father to alcoholism when she was nine and found little solace or security in her unaffectionate, overworked mother..."

"Surrounded" sounds pretty close!

You break it, you bought it.

I am Laslo.

AllenS said...

You can read all the books that you want, and it will never give a person common sense.

rhhardin said...

They want to show that they rule because of the damage they can inflict, if not actual vote popularity. The damage comes by way of influence over soap opera women they and the media control.

sinz52 said...

Laslo asks: "How close is 'never anywhere close to that?'"


I guess the Left thinks that rapists emit gamma rays that can be detected from afar.

CWJ said...

After reading some of these comments, I can't shake this image. Ramirez's lawyers sitting at a table with her across from them.

Ramirez: "Just deal out the 20's one by one." Three days later. "Keep going." Six days later. "OK. My memory is clear now. You can stop."

mezzrow said...

Consider the totality of this display, coupled with the provenance and contents of the Steele dossier. These are their weapons. This is what they are. What kinds of people cower before these kinds of lies? What kinds of people print them?

Ann Althouse said...

Meade wrote: "Are you and everyone you care about free of the fraternity gang rape stink? If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man [and woman] who had drunken sex in college?"

Please note that the original post said: "I assume a lot of young women and men get hurt."

Tim said...

the New Yorker article by Roan Farrow is co-a by a Fusion GPS shill. Anyone surprised?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The timing again.

Not Sure said...

Coming up: Citizen Collins wheels out the "appearance of impropriety" tumbril.

Citizen Althouse issues a concurring opinion. If a few heads must roll in order to overthrow the patriarchy, then Roll Tide.

Ann Althouse said...

I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned.

Tim said...

Ronan, co-authored
I hate auto correct

Bay Area Guy said...

So far, we have:

1. Ford claim - bullshit. 36 year old vagueness; missing dates, missing location, no police report, no sworn statement.

2. Ramirez claim - less than bullshit. Dorm floor party, 35 years ago? Playing with dildo?

3. Avenatti claim - E-mail, no names, no victims, hieroglyphic interpretation of high school yearbook quotes.

This is your modern day Democrat party. Smear artists with large media platforms and pliable lawyerly Senators to promote the smears.

pacwest said...

There is a deeper endgame here. Someone is trying to make Sharia Law look like the best possibility to stop the madness. The women are out of control. rrhardin's comments are starting to make sense.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Dems are VILE smear artists. They care so much about children and our culture.

Lyssa said...

Granted, there aren’t a lot of Supreme Court justices coming out of my law school, but I have to think that if I were somehow offered the nom right now, I wouldn’t take it, despite having led a reasonably clean life. I have a family to worry about.

It’s going to be very interesting to see what happens next tome there’s a woman in this seat (probably sooner rather than later). I’d love to have a look at what’s going through Amy Coney Barrett’s mind these days.

I’m not sure how the country keeps going on like this.

Darrell said...

Margaret Clitherow (in 1586) was stripped naked, and, according to accounts from the time, made to lie on a sharp rock as a heavy door was placed on top of her body. Weights were then placed on top of this, until the pressure broke Clitherow’s back, leading to her death. She was in her early 30s at the time and, horrifyingly, may have been pregnant. Her crime? Harboring and aiding Catholic priests.

I would let her speak at the hearing and give her time to travel to D.C.

Static Ping said...

It is clear now that this was all orchestrated ahead of time. This is all bad faith. I seriously doubt that most of the persons involved actually believe any of the accusations, including potentially the accusers themselves.

I will note that this sort of sandbagging, unverifiable accusations, and abuse of process is classic Late Roman Republic stuff. That did not end well.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Please note that the original post said: "I assume a lot of young women and men get hurt."

Perhaps a tag for this: Meade misreads Althouse.

I am Laslo.

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Nonapod said...

If this actually works... if enough people actually believe this stuff, we're in real trouble. If vague accusations oestensibly based on decades old fuzzy memories are all it takes damn someone forever, we may as well forget having a justice system in this country. There's really no point.

This is really getting scary. I just hope there's still enough sane people left in the world.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

It's The Clinton War Room Strategy.

Browndog said...

If republicans were doing this to a democrat nominee, the democrats would say the nominee is qualified, and personal life has nothing to do with interpreting the law.

Republicans, on the other hand, embrace the smearing of their nominees, calling it 'part of the process'.

Republicans could stop this today. They refuse.

rhhardin said...

I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned.

It's not harmful, just overrated.

Tim said...

The Ramirez women also spent time working for a Soros front group. Sociology/psychology is 99% bullshit.

MayBee said...

I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned.

Your writing here seems to me to be saying, drunken heartless sex is damaging to everyone. If Kavanaugh can't prove he's never been drunken, he then cannot prove he never had drunken, heartless sex. And if he cannot prove he has never had drunken, heartless sex, he cannot prove he never had drunken heartless sex with a woman who didn't want it. Therefore, he may not be innocent. He has to prove his innocence in drinking to be worthy of the court.

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MayBee said...

Althouse is saying it hurts everyone. Meade is saying everyone should be held accountable for what happens.

We are currently in a phase socially where we aren't wanting to hold women accountable. That would be slut shaming. We don't really believe in equality.

Matt Sablan said...

"It’s going to be very interesting to see what happens next tome there’s a woman in this seat (probably sooner rather than later). "

-- That depends. Is it a real woman, or an unwoman like Sarah Palin?

Oso Negro said...

@Nonapod - the sane people have been storing up weapons and ammunition for years. You want some Dylan this morning? How about “A Hard Rain’a Gonna Fall”.

Matt Sablan said...

The real point of this is: If you'd delay for Ford to testify, you need to wait for ALL OF THESE WOMEN to testify. Delay, obtained.

Dave Begley said...

Bay Area Guy

Today's Democrat party is the most corrupt and vile organization in America today. Honest and decent Americans most totally reject these Dems.

I personally know the Dem candidates for Governor and Senator in Nebraska. I'll never vote for another Dem after this.

Rick said...

You could cast aspersions on every man.

Fixed punctuation error.

chuck said...

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. Time to move on to something interesting.

John Pickering said...

If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man who had drunken sex in college?

Ann misses the point here, of course. The doesn't have to do with every man, only those men who aspire to a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court. Why don't the Republicans come up with someone who wasn't a drunken preppie, don't they have any of those guys? As Ann says, why should the Supreme Court have two dudes who went to the same high school?

Dave Begley said...

I urge everyone here to circulate Mr. D's Top Ten list to your friends. It is too good to just keep it here. Very funny.

Paul Zrimsek said...

'Are you now, or have you ever been, a Collegian?"

Matt Sablan said...

"The doesn't have to do with every man, only those men who aspire to a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court. "

-- Well, only Republican men who aspire to it.

Laslo Spatula said...

"Why don't the Republicans come up with someone who wasn't a drunken preppie, don't they have any of those guys?"

And the evidence* of this is...?

(*by "evidence" I mean something that someone might say under oath)

I am Laslo.

rhhardin said...

Oberlin doesn't have fraternaties and it's a dry town. It should be good for supreme court candidates.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

the rules need to change with this last minute crap. If you have s desperate unverifiable (that's the best part, right?) BS High school lie you want to pedal, it must be submitted by a certain date or it is forfeit.

Lyssa said...

Matthew Sablan, I definitely mean an “unwoman” like myself. And it won’t even occur to them how hypocritical they are.

Laslo Spatula said...

"I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned."

Which makes having drunken, heartless sex while REM's "Everybody Hurts" playing in the background REALLY sad.

That would make a good scene in one of the movies that will eventually get made from one of the books these women will inevitably write.

I am Laslo.

MayBee said...

John Pickering said...
If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man who had drunken sex in college?

Ann misses the point here, of course. The doesn't have to do with every man, only those men who aspire to a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court. Why don't the Republicans come up with someone who wasn't a drunken preppie, don't they have any of those guys?


Does it? Do you think all of the other Supremes never had drunken sex in college? Or never got drunk in college?

Fabi said...

Go long on sex robots.

MayBee said...

Lyssa- I totally agree. This is a shot across the bow for all conservatives, isn't it? "Look what we will print about you. Look what Senators will say about you. And we will scoff at those who say we are hurting you"

Steve M. Galbraith said...

I too want Althouse to explain that, SMG. Althouse, your readers are once again not understanding you (or perhaps, afraid that we are understanding you)

Althouse often goes from first person - her views - to third person - the views of some others. Sometimes it's difficult to tell when she's doing one or the other.

In this case, I think she's making a third person view. Or the view by Kavanaugh's critics. That is, you came out of or were surrounded by a drunken sex culture; prove to us that you didn't yourself practice it.

rhhardin said...

The trouble started with Weinstein being portrayed as a monster, rather than a now and then over-the-line but mostly legal offender. Weinstein should have been just a cultural studies case.

Even some guys went along with monster, being fearful of soap opera women via their place as media audience.

Ann Althouse said...

"Althouse is saying it hurts everyone. Meade is saying everyone should be held accountable for what happens."

I don't think Meade is saying that. I think he and I are saying the same thing: You look at the larger problem, and the set of people who hurt and are hurt is so inclusive that it's horrible but it's also impossible to hold everyone accountable. We won't have anyone left, or, at least, we'll be left with a pool we don't like for other reasons.

Anonymous said...

AA: I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned.

And what has this to do with the show trial under discussion? Are you perhaps suggesting that women damaged by drunken, heartless sex are the root cause of the growing insanity of politics, and the appalling sovietizaton of American life?

If so, hey, you may have a point! I think most people here would question the wisdom of your solution (apparently, "double down!") to the damage problem.

policraticus said...

I didn't vote for Trump. I left the presidential ballot blank.

Never. Again.

This spiraling fiasco has turned me from someone who was disgusted by Trump to someone who was disgusted by Trump but sometimes supported his policies, to someone who was astonished at the dishonesty of his opponents, to now someone who will actively campaign for him in 2020.

Thanks, Feinstein, et al. You have turned me from a Never-Trumper into a Deplorable.

As Glenn Reynolds says, "All you had to do was not be crazy. And you couldn't even do that."

Browndog said...

When Jennifer Granholm goes on national tv and says no corroboration is itself corroboration..

When democrats, within 1 week, go from demanding a hearing due to allegations to demand no hearings due to allegations..

Why is everyone else still trying to play be the rules? There are no rules. Liberals show us everyday there are no rules, yet we bend over backwards trying to follow them.

RBE said...

I was wrong...Avenatti...not Lisa Bloom and her lawyer mama was waiting in the wings. Of course, there is still time.

rhhardin said...

Look for a girls of Brett Kavanaugh spread in Hustler.

Ken B said...

I need you rehearse the complaints many of us have made against your Ford posts recently. But how does this differ? If a distraught woman's husband believes she was gang raped by a gang rape organizer your comments suggest she's likely telling the truth. Do you see now why we goggle?

buwaya said...

My field operatives in US universities, all active in the 2010's and being of both sexes, assure me that there is a very great deal less of this than one would think. And moreover that the girls have much more to do with it all than the boys, there being great female competition for the relatively few desirable men.

Karen of Texas said...

Politics today is nothing more than just going tribal. I am there. Now to find and join up.

Just go tribal!

God, we are doomed. I am ashamed of my gender. It's reassuring to find that there are some like minded women out there. I hope we're a majority.

Laslo Spatula said...

"I don't think Meade is saying that."

Now people are misreading Meade.

Can someone get a translator here to dumb things down so we can have a chance of understanding?

(cue Garrett Morris as the "President of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing" )

I am Laslo.

Lyssa said...

Maybee, I used to think that I would love to have that fight. Maybe when I’m older and my kids are grown, I could be that person again, but looking at this, I’d just have to say it’s not worth it.

I’m not speaking for myself here; like I said, no imminent threat of SCOTUS appointment for this state school graduate, but if I’m thinking that, surely many more worthy people are, too. The right’s going to lose a lot of good people to this, and I don’t know what anyone can do about it.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Did Kavanaugh rape a young Stormy Daniels?

Bay Area Guy said...

@Fabi,

Go long on sex robots.

Thread winner!

Because sex robots won't raise 36-year old slanderous accusations at YOUR confirmation hearing.

MayBee said...

I don't think Meade is saying that. I think he and I are saying the same thing: You look at the larger problem, and the set of people who hurt and are hurt is so inclusive that it's horrible but it's also impossible to hold everyone accountable. We won't have anyone left, or, at least, we'll be left with a pool we don't like for other reasons.

Well, Meade said everyone. You said men (in your post).

gahrie said...

We are currently in a phase socially where we aren't wanting to hold women accountable.

No woman must be made to feel bad about, or responsible for, anything, ever.

rhhardin said...

Rewiring sex robots will be the next fraternity scandal.

Rick said...

Ramirez was paid. In those six days in which her memory was unclear, a large amount of bitcoin was transferred to her. The FBI can track bitcoin transactions. I hope the FBI does investigate as this is where they should start.

Mark this comment. I'm dead serious here.


Left wingers don't need to be directly bribed. They understand taking down a non-leftist politician - or anyone of consequence - will make their careers. Mary Mapes was paid off with book and movie deals even though her efforts failed. Anita Hill went from a bureaucratic flunky to a law professor. Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn were also rewarded with "education" jobs.

Becoming a left wing gadfly has been the retirement plan for Hollywood has-beens for decades a la Susan Sarandon which is why so many are vying to be the face of MeToo. There's zero chance this is a result of direct bribery.

Rick said...

John Pickering said...

Ann misses the point here, of course. The doesn't have to do with every man, only those men who aspire to a lifetime appointment to the US Supreme Court. Why don't the Republicans come up with someone who wasn't a drunken preppie, don't they have any of those guys?


Barack Obama used cocaine (and pot) and the left not only didn't care they claimed anyone who did was racist. Now they claim drinking is disqualifying if you have upper middle class parents.

Left wing thought is rather pathetic.

Anonymous said...

John Pickering: Why don't the Republicans come up with someone who wasn't a drunken preppie...

"Preppie", lol. Thanks for making your class and/or ethnic resentments so transparent, John. That term's a bit dated, though, and anyway, your pals have already moved on to straightforwardly screaming "I HATE WHITE MEN DIE WHITEY DIE" with impunity, so the effort at delicacy via euphemism, however transparent, is no longer necessary.

And besides, we already know that you guys are fine with slobbering sycophancy toward members of the privileged classes, as long as they're left-wing.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned.

because if you are male, you will be branded as a sex predator and your life ruined,

and if female, you can wallow in victimhood, disavow agency, and whine

gahrie said...

I still trying to figure out, why drunken male students are responsible for their behavior, while drunken female students are not.

See my 9:46 AM comment.

MayBee said...

Barack Obama used cocaine (and pot) and the left not only didn't care they claimed anyone who did was racist. Now they claim drinking is disqualifying if you have upper middle class parents.

Barack Obama broke a woman's heart. You know, a broken heart can damage you in all future relationships. Would you rather see what might be a real penis for a few seconds in a dorm room, or have your heart broken?
Would you rather have your daughter see a penis for a few seconds in a dorm ruin, or have her heart broken?

Bay Area Guy said...

In 1946, we had the Hiss/Chambers contest of wills, as a proxy for the existential struggle between the forces of liberty and the force of communist totalitarianism.

In 2018, we have an existential struggle between Deborah Ramirez and her dildo party at a Yale dorm room.

Progress!

grackle said...

College happened. There is a drinking culture. It's tied to cheap, drunken sex. Can Kavanaugh assure us that he was never anywhere close to that?

I guess Kavanaugh and his supporters must think as I do that the burden of proof should be on the accusers. And perhaps that it unfair to automatically assume Kavanaugh had anything to do with “cheap, drunken sex” just because he was attending college.

Are you and everyone you care about free of the fraternity gang rape stink? If Kavanaugh falls, are you ready for the fall of every man who had drunken sex in college?

But alas “every man who had drunken sex in college” will not “fall.” Those nominees that the Left and their buddies in MSM approve of would be given a pass on all such issues. It is woefully naïve to believe otherwise.

My take:

If the anti-Trumpers succeed it may have unforeseen consequences. Turnout is key in the mid-terms. Ruining a good person such as Kavanaugh with such obvious lies could energize Trump’s voters. Trump would be sure to tweet the hell out of the issue leading up to the mid-terms.

buwaya said...

Anyway, this whole business was centrally coordinated, and planning for it was certainly begun several months ago, if not earlier. There is excellent reason to think that there is a central database of information on all current and prospective political enemies, down into the lower ranks. And its also clear that this is integrated with resources and contacts at US intelligence agencies.

The women involved are part of known networks - Ramirez was a Soros senior fellow. Ford is a daughter of a former CIA recruiter at Stanford. Avenatti is a "face" on an organization running dirty tricks, he is a longtime political opposition research guy, working for the Chicago machine (under Rahm Emanuel) going back to law school. They seem to have brought him back after his private practice hit the rocks.

Its clear that the moment Kavanaugh became a prospect a very professional hunt was on for anything that would serve.

That side has a permanent dirty tricks establishment, and lots of money for this as well as anything else that could be of use, including, no doubt, putting the word out among the networks for people and material. And of course the media to use whatever ammunition they can come up with.

This is really a single machine, the parts always meshing and all under central direction.

Anonymous said...

Bay Area Guy:

Because sex robots won't raise 36-year old slanderous accusations at YOUR confirmation hearing.

Don't buy your sex robots from Google, just to be on the safe side.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Because sex robots won't raise 36-year old slanderous accusations at YOUR confirmation hearing.

Ha! Dont think they are recording everything?
Wait til they haul your bot into court and download away.

William said...

I bet Justice Kavanaugh's views on the defamation statutes are rapidly evolving,

Steve M. Galbraith said...

Ford is a daughter of a former CIA recruiter at Stanford

And the shooter on the grassy knoll was her uncle.

Renee said...

People dismissed the dozens of women who spoke of well of Kavanaugh in high school and college. But it matters. Girls talked about which guys were creeps and who were not, we protected each other from those guys. Even if a yucky situation didn't result in rape or sexual assault, girls spoke and shared 'warnings' of sorts. I remember one line from my own high school days, 'Beware of xxxx, he would try to f*ck your belly button if let him'. Myself, I remember accidentally being left alone with one guy, that was so 'yucky'. I made an quick excuse to leave (use the bathroom) and immediately chastise my male friend who left the room leaving us alone. "Would you leave your sister alone with him?" He got it then.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Democrats can drink and do drugs in college. Republicans cannot.

Steve M. Galbraith said...

In 2018, we have an existential struggle between Deborah Ramirez and her dildo party at a Yale dorm room.

Well, remember the theory made at that time (covertly) that Chambers was angry at Hiss for turning down his, Chambers', sexual advances.

Chambers did engage in homosexual behavior as a young man.

Stephen A. Meigs said...

College fraternities and elitist private schools of drunkenness are entrance points to the elitist old boy network that excessively controls Washington. If it's getting to be politically disadvantageous to have had anything to do with them, ha ha, I say.

If I were in a position of political power, I would tend to significantly hold it against prospective nominees if they were associated with such bodies. My impression in college was that indeed fraternities attracted people who were (1) into drunkenness and having access to drunken females (and why would anyone want drunken females except to take advantage of them?) and (2) were more concerned with integrating themselves in proper aligned military-like fashion into a fascio aiding entrance to an only slightly merit based network of wealth and power than with living in a quiet peaceful environment conductive to the study and reflection necessary to figuring out how things are and (3) curse those among them who dare to presume to decide what is right for our country and the world if they don't know because they have little to any knowledge or understanding of anything, as might be expected to be the case because at least when young they seemed to be more concerned with seducing females with drunkenness or worse and obtaining power through networks rather than with bettering themselves by seeking understanding, the more proper way to be attractive to females, employers, and should it come to that, the electorate. True, I never actually stepped foot in a fraternity, but I saw plenty of young people returning from their parties drunk and trying to deal with the mess of ye vomit concomitant with the drunkenness. Nothing the least bit beautiful about it. Fraternity members have been over represented in positions of power for too long. Not that having been in a fraternity is definitely evil or something--it's not a black-and-white evil thing like sodomizing, and for all I know there be some fraternities in some institutions that are respectable--but I still think that on balance it is just and wise to consider such a membership as a negative in deciding whom to trust and give power, unless given evidence to the contrary. Not like there's a shortage of people who won't hold it against you if you haven't been in a fraternity (or what almost amounts to almost the same thing, if you haven't gotten the knack of exuding the good-old boy ethos of mutual respect in the midst of depravity that one especially learns as a boy in frat life or the drunken private high school equivalent that some have got from their parents paying the tuition).

buwaya said...

Rick is correct. There are well oiled avenues to protect or reward people who have made themselves useful. This is because of the extensive interlocking systems characteristic of that side of politics, that controls all major institutions.

You are up against a massive machine.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

None of the people who can vouch for Kavanaugh count. It's the creepy devoted leftwingers who matter.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Fraternities are where young men are introduced to the occult mystery of the paragraph break, the true key to power.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Avenatti is pulling a 'Sharpton'--

parlaying a bogus sex offense into a dubious shot a public office, but will settle for higher-profile shitmixer.

any publicity, even bad, is good publicity

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

@Paul Z

Cruel, but neutral.

Bay Area Guy said...

"Chambers did engage in homosexual behavior as a young man"

No dispute. Some have also postulated that he engaged with homosexual behavior with Hiss. Glad it didn't sidetrack the epic struggle, though, to nail Hiss as a Soviet agent so as to avoid having Stalin's man as our Secretary of State.

That woulda been bad.

chickelit said...

There’s a whiff of boiled cabbage, urine and farts behind all this.

buwaya said...

The fact that your elite come up through the same cursus honorum, going to the same schools, and that these schools are near-exclusively run by one side, and that the people in the channel also are vastly tilted to one side, means that the right is limited to recruiting leadership from a very few mavericks that make it through that system.

Afterwards they have little in the way of a support network, nearly every high-placed person they know will be an enemy. And moreover that their circle of aquaintances will consist of a great number of potential enemies.

JHapp said...

Clooney and Crosby couldn't hold a candle to Vera-Ellen

buwaya said...

The CIA recruits nearly 100% Democrats and has done so for decades.
And it is moreover well known for interfering in domestic US politics.

Spy and internal security agencies are very dangerous things anywhere.

Steve M. Galbraith said...

No dispute. Some have also postulated that he engaged with homosexual behavior with Hiss. Glad it didn't sidetrack the epic struggle, though, to nail Hiss as a Soviet agent so as to avoid having Stalin's man as our Secretary of State.

Agreed.

Chambers wrote near the end of his life (he knew death was near) that "History hit my generation like a freight train." The Depression, the rise of fascism, the belief that communism was the answer, people trying to make their way in a crazy world....lots of people got hit.

Some parallels to that today. Far less serious ones of course.

Anonymous said...

Stephen A. Meigs: College fraternities and elitist private schools of drunkenness are entrance points to the elitist old boy network that excessively controls Washington. If it's getting to be politically disadvantageous to have had anything to do with them, ha ha, I say.

Ha ha ha that anybody is gullible enough to think that attending "elitist private schools" is now politically disadvantageous. The people snowing you about the evils of "fraternities" are themselves products of "elitist private schools" and members of the "elitist old boy [and girl] network" that runs the joint. How dumb do you have to be to believe that the evil "old boy network" is a bunch of conservative WASP males, and that the people attacking them are a bunch of populists totally not into protecting their own status and privilege?

Not that having been in a fraternity is definitely evil or something--it's not a black-and-white evil thing like sodomizing, and for all I know there be some fraternities in some institutions that are respectable...

What is it with you and sodomy, Meigs? I've been noting your comments on the Kavanaugh threads and was amazed that you had posted several long comments without once veering off into your favorite topic - sodomy!

I guess it was too good to last, I guess, but it was a pretty good run.

JAORE said...

"I assume a lot of young women and men get hurt."

And that's just fine and dandy, right?
Even the innocent. But that's no big deal, right?
Even if the hurt is caused by lies for political power advantage not any sense of justice, right?

I am sickened.... and highlighting voting day on the calendar. I have always taken the position that voting a straight party line was foolish and lazy. Not this time. Straight R until and unless SOMEONE on the Democrat side of import says, "Enough is enough".

The Crack Emcee said...

I'm pretty sure, in the old days, Avenatti would've been regarded as a hooker's sleazy lawyer and, beyond that, ignored. Based on the evidence, the old ways were best.

And I know a thing or two about trains...

Mark O said...

Eventually, there will be 9 Mormons on the Court.

Big Mike said...

@Dave Begley, have you told them to their faces? Have you contributed money towards their opponents, campaigns or put yard signs up for Republican candidates?

I’m unhappy with my Congress critter for being in favor of open borders and voting against AHCA, but I intend to send her money. I am also sending to Republican Senators in tight races, like Heller and McSally. Wife and I can skip a few movies — it’s not that Hollywood is making anything worth watching anyway.

Bay Area Guy said...
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Bay Area Guy said...

In the midst of this Monday morning Chaos!, I would like to pause and make a statement:

Although there are crazy women out there (like Blasey Ford), and vindictive women (like Deborah Ramirez) and powerful women (like Sens. Feinstein and Hirono), there are millions of wonderful, stable, intelligent, attractive, well-adjusted women out there, working, raising children, falling in love, making warm safe homes, etc, etc.

I would include our hostess and many of our female commentators in this outstanding group.

This isn't a "woman" problem. This is a left-wing problem -- which has sadly shanghai'd many gullible women into its ranks.

robother said...

If this works, i.e., Kavanaugh is not confirmed, this will be the Democrat/SJW template for the 2020 Presidential race. And do not kid yourself, the vulnerability of White Democrat men is a feature, not a bug to these people. The SJW Left will use this stuff (or the threat of this stuff) to push their full tilt Cultural War Socialist agenda.

chickelit said...

Blogger Matthew Sablan said...
“Sue Avenatti.

Let's end this.”

She’s not talking. Her ex bound her with an NDA.

Sebastian said...

"Can Kavanaugh assure us that he was never anywhere close to that?"

Prog justice: the burden of proof is on the defendant to "assure us" that he was "never anywhere close" to something or other, whether slightly distasteful, merely immoral, or actually criminal. Prove your innocence, buddy.

Of course, the "that" remains conveniently fuzzy, its degree of evil to be decided after proper confession.

It would be nice if the Althouses would just tell us how much drinking, what sorts of sexual pranks, and what degrees of female discontent in one's past are disqualifying for judicial or any other appointments--realizing, of course, that fuzziness is itself a power tool.

Anonymous said...

buwaya: Anyway, this whole business was centrally coordinated, and planning for it was certainly begun several months ago, if not earlier.

It's remarkable how otherwise intelligent people are yet sure that this is all about "justice for women" or feminism or something, and the accusers just honest suffering poor dears damaged by drunken heartless sex.

The women involved are part of known networks - Ramirez was a Soros senior fellow.

Kinda pathetic, though, isn't it? Slither your way up the greasy pole - Yale, big noise globo-NGO fellow - only to reach this career high point of publicly retailing your college "lying on the floor in a drunken stupor with a cock in my face" stories for your political masters and the Good of the Party.

chickelit said...

Blogger robother said...
“If this works, i.e., Kavanaugh is not confirmed, this will be the Democrat/SJW template for the 2020 Presidential race. And do not kid yourself, the vulnerability of White Democrat men is a feature, not a bug to these people. The SJW Left will use this stuff (or the threat of this stuff) to push their full tilt Cultural War Socialist agenda.”

Occasional Cortex can’t fill rallies. How else do you expect Dems to regain control?

NotWhoIUsedtoBe said...

I think Althouse understands the problem of believing an accuser without allowing exculpatory evidence. Without details in the accusation, the accused cannot disprove anything. No possible alibi, no witnesses to cross-examine, no due process.

In scientific terms, there's no falsifiability. There's no possible piece of evidence that could be found and exonerate the accused.

HT said...

Matthew Sablan said...

Sue Avenatti.

Let's end this.
9/24/18, 8:29 AM

_______

Yes, where are the lawsuits?

Francisco D said...

I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned.

Althouse assumes that drunken sex is necessarily heartless. I think she needs to better define "drunken.".

Young men can have sex when inebriated, but it is difficult when falling down drunk.

Young women can be drunk as a skunk and have sex that is not much fun for anyone involved.

Are you speaking of personal experience?

Ken B said...

You know what threads I hate? The ones where rhhardin gets to school Althouse. That's the whole damn blog now.

Sebastian said...

"I believe that drunken, heartless sex is damaging to everyone concerned."

But only women get to bitch about it 35 years later, to destroy men and advance their own politics.

Or actually, women get to make up stories about "drunken, heartless sex" to destroy anyone they damn well please, aided and abetted by Althouses who tell us we must believe them because they show "emotional states."

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