September 13, 2018

"Get rid of the (expletive) Braille. No blind people are going to live in Trump Tower. Just do it."

So said Trump, back in the 80s, according to Barbara Res, the former vice president in charge of construction at the Trump Organization, writing in The Daily News.

The Braille was in the elevator control panels. According to Res, who wasn't present for the incident, the architect told him it had to be there, because it was required by law, and: "The more the architect protested, the angrier Trump got. Donald liked to pick on this guy. As a general rule, Trump thought architects and engineers were weak as compared to construction people. And he loved to torment weak people."

One could also say that architects and engineers are the elite, and it's fun or good for them to knock them around. "No blind people are going to live in Trump Tower" sounds like a joke — not the kind of joke designed for public consumption, but it is funny. You've got a tall glass tower that's all about great views. You pay a big premium for those views, and a blind person has (the premise of the joke is) no use for them. I mean, I can see a use: a very rich blind person might splurge on a feature that he himself cannot enjoy but he could show off to visitors.

That makes me think of Picasso's last words: "Drink to me, drink to my health, you know I can't drink anymore."

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Arashi said...

tim in vermont

Most likely - even the Microsoft certification tests age fairly quickly so their relevance gets less if you don't retake them.

Perhaps it would be better if there were some kind of certification test for software engineers like there is for 'real' engineers. It might curb some of the worst of the code that gets written.

Of course, it would be nice if the general public realized that the code that makes all the high tech stuff work (other than airplane software) was written by in general by non-certified individuals, and they (the public) stopped assuming high tech will save us all from ourselves.

But I don't hold out much hope for that realization to take hold.

Arashi said...

Passwords make everybody 'feel secure. Before I left Microsoft, they started training folks for the current security environment, which moves from making your network (any network) secure and hard to penetrate to a stance of assume breach. The bad guys are on the network and the new approach is to find them and throw them off. The sad thing is, the average time it takes to find a breach is around 18 months. Microsoft had gotten that down to less than a year.

Most of the time, the bad guys use fishing attacks (think Podesta) to get credentials from someone in the organization, then build as big a picture of the entire network as they can before they start stealing stuff or engaging in mayhem. They look for weak spots, administrative passwords and credentials - especially those built in that never get changed - and build very large relationship diagrams for the organization. They are very sophisticated.

BUMBLE BEE said...

All the talk about ADA and no mention of Bob Dole? Bill Clinton's campaign made it amply clear that Dole was "mean". It was said that when he confronted Bill on the tactic Bill said Hey it's politics. Dole was known as the jokester of the senate throughout his career. Bob Dole authored the original ADA.

Ray - SoCal said...

Security is a headache!

1. Forcing people to change their passwords just makes them write them down.

2. Using tokens can be problematic, when the Chinese hack the token maker.

3. Internet of everything are not designed for security.

4. NSA & CIA hacks / backdoors in the hardware spread.

5. Limited costs if hacked, usually goal is to minimize cost to prevent (Sony)

6. Updates to hardware firmware usually don't happen.

7. Android phones usually don't get updated.

8. Internet was not designed for security.

Mary Beth said...

Thank god we found out about this now! /s

narciso said...

speaking of hacks:


https://www.wsj.com/articles/before-it-was-hacked-equifax-had-a-different-fear-chinese-spying-1536768305

narciso said...

they inspire confidence don't they:

https://saraacarter.com/new-strzok-page-documents-reveal-fbi-officials-used-unsecured-devices-for-sensitive-info/

Michael K said...

Paper ballots, please.

I read California gets five new Congressional districts for illegal aliens. Whoopee.

bagoh20 said...

My goto opening line to women at a bar is to whisper to them: "You wanna see it?"

I think I may modify that to: "I have a Braille tattoo. Wanna read it?" It kind skips you right to second base.

McCackie said...

As he is a germophobe, it could be said the such ridged tactile surfaces could be seen as a disease vector.

narciso said...

btw, it turns Obama administration employees, did partake of prostitutes, when they were in Moscow, according to a whistleblower,

Kirk Parker said...

Arashi,

I am a software engineer too, but I wonder about you, since you don't seem to understand that software engineers are not Engineers.

narciso said...

there were a couple of interesting take aways from the woodward book, he relate a briefing, derek Harvey, gave about Hezbollah, and a future war with Israel, but somehow the 150 billion given to iran, somehow doesn't enter into it, he relies on brennan on more than one occasion, notably relating the failed Rockstar network, re the attempted assassination of Hussein at dora farm, in the context of a decapitation strike against kim jong il, not much is followed up on that score, also in light of that piece about possible candidates for anonymous, john de estafano does show up, exhibiting extreme independence, as authorized by priebus,

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“If things are so great, why focus on the trivial whining of the left? Have some motherfucking confidence!”

Everyday a new outrage! They keep saying bad things about Trump! Whaaaaa! Stop picking on our Trump!

Christy said...

I'm an engineer who loves building stuff, so lots of experience with construction types. (Some of my best friends are in construction. :-J) I assure you, engineers and architects trash talk construction managers all the time. And vice versa. Egyptians building Hatshepsut's mortuary temple undoubtedly cursed Senenmut at length. As it was and always shall be.

Kovacs said...

Presumably he also did a hilarious impression of a blind person groping around in the elevator. Making fun of the disabled is classic Trump shtick.

mockturtle said...

An architect is a combination of artist and engineer. My father, for instance, was not homosexual.

sinz52 said...

Evidently, Trump didn't consider the possibility that a blind person might have a family who can see. Blind people do marry sighted people. Blind people do have sighted children.

James K said...

Our building has an overly busy passenger elevator and a not busy manual operation service elevator. It is illegal to convert the service elevator to passenger use because the door isn’t wide enough for a wheel chair, even though doing so would make both the non-existent wheelchair users (who’d benefit from a less congested main elevator) and others better off.

chickelit said...

Making fun of the disabled is classic Trump shtick.

Not just Trump -- remember all those times Hillary faked having spazz attacks? Or were those for real?

wbfjrr2 said...

Althouse, you consider THIS worthy of comment? Hearsay in a left wing rag about something almost 40 years ago that's (of course) negative on Trump?

I know you have whimsical interests, but this is a total yawner. You need to raise your sights--like maybe on the conspiracy by the FBI to defeat Trump that's leaking great gobs of new info these days??--no opinion on that I guess. Maybe because the MSM smothers all of it?

David-2 said...

@Freder - "Engineers and architects don't think much of lawyers either. An undergraduate engineering degree requires a lot more intelligence than a JD."

And that reminds me of an highly entertaining conversation I overheard at Microsoft when I (a software engineer) arrived early at an IP disclosure meeting with a couple of attorneys - the internal Microsoft IP lawyer and the external IP lawyer who was going to handle the patents we were going to talk about.

The external guy asked the internal guy "What's it like working at Microsoft?"

And the internal guy said - I swear to god - "It's great. Except that everyone working here thinks they could do your job if they only spent a weekend reading up on it."

And - I think he was right! (That's what all the engineers probably did think!)

Michael K said...

Trump didn't consider the possibility that a blind person might have a family who can see.

I see you didn't consider the possibility that this 40 year old story is a lie.

Except that everyone working here thinks they could do your job if they only spent a weekend reading up on it."

We had an internist like that. He used to say he could sit through a couple of surgery meetings and do what e did.

His patients were always a mess.

Richard said...

Robert Cook said...
An excellent appraisal of Trump and America.

Blogger Robert Cook said...
But, then again....

Do you get all of your information from anti-Semitic websites? I deliberately chose the dailykos condemnation of counter punch to indicate how beyond the pale they are.

apology for recommending the anti-Semitic counter punch website

Hagar said...

@mockturtle,
I greatly irritated a contractor by calling him by a certain term and he finally told me that if I did not stop it, he was going to start calling me an architect.

(And he was totally right; the term I had used for him was not all that funny when I thought about it, so I apologized and never did it again.)

Narayanan said...

Children know to hit all the buttons and count stops to get out on your floor.

Bruce Hayden said...

"I truly get the Trump distinction between architects and construction people. Anyone who has done a brand new project, commercial or residential, understands this. Good construction guys know how fix the architect's work. Architects design things that cost more and add no value, because they know nothing about costs other than more or less."

Also, applicable to the difference between civil engineers and architects. Friend from growing up teaches in the architecture school of a major university. His PhD is in Civil Engineering, but ended up in Architecture. He teaches essentially a civil engineering for architects class. It is a real challenge, apparently, because architects tend to be artsy fartsy types, and don't want to be bothered with the trivialities of getting their designs to physically work. So, a lot of his class is showing his students graphically why not to do something. For example, for the proposition that you have to be careful where you put bathrooms, and, in particular, not to put them over entryways, he shows slides of the aftermath of a plugged toilet leaking down the front entryway to a house. M

Known Unknown said...

"I still want to know how blind persons know where to run their fingers for that."

I would think after living with blindness for a while, blind people would be conditioned to do so.

Known Unknown said...

"Architects design things that cost more and add no value, because they know nothing about costs other than more or less."

Art Vandelay hardest hit.

Narayanan said...

Trump is fan of The First ...
Roarke is hated by design prof, loved by math/engineer prof.

Narayanan said...

The Fountainhead.

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