August 10, 2018

Violent headline in The Washington Post: "Time for Mueller to bring out the big guns."

It's just an op-ed by a lawprof, and I haven't read it, but I see it's #1 on the "Most Read" list in the sidebar, so the headline worked as clickbait. Which makes me notice that the list should be headed "Most Clicked," because, as I said, I didn't read the op-ed, and I doubt if many of WaPo's readers (i.e. clickers) did. I mean I glanced at it again just to get an idea of when I decided, after clicking, that I didn't really want to read it after all, and I couldn't get past the first sentence...
Even as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III marches forward with his prosecution of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger, the president and his lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani continue their tango about whether the president will deign to answer questions from Mueller’s team.
... and even then, I was just thinking idle thoughts like: marches forward, that sounds like something that might be done with big guns, but oh, what's this?, a tango. Mueller is marching and has guns, and Trump and Giuliani are tangoing. And they're purportedly tangoing "about" something. How do you tango about whether to answer questions?

It makes me think about the old aphorism "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." The point there is, obviously, you can't dance about architecture (so you can't write about music). It's a great line, because it's so trippy to think about dancing about architecture.


Dancing About Architecture from ZEITGUISED on Vimeo.

120 comments:

rcocean said...

Oh its a tangled tango Friday there at the WaPo.

Leland said...

This sounds like a tit for tat headline, considering yesterday there was an op-ed from Goodwin saying Trump should bring out his big gun and declassify all the FBI files on the matter. To me, the problem is if Mueller has a "big gun"; he should have brought it out long ago. I guess he could wait a bit longer to try and affect the mid-terms, but if that happens; then what's the difference between the supposed Russian interference and the FBI's own colluding efforts to interfere with an election? One could argue it has happened twice now from the FBI and in an effort to delegitimize our whole electoral process.

Ann Althouse said...

I'm not going to embed a second song because it wouldn't look right here, but I'm listening to "Big Gun" by AC/DC.

For some reason when I clicked on it, I believed it was an Aerosmith video and I listened for about 10 seconds thinking, Aerosmith is a lot better than I thought.

BarrySanders20 said...

Oh! What a tangoed web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Time to mow down the Trump admin like they did Seth Rich.

Nonapod said...

as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger

When I read something like this, I wonder the writer is imagining. What actual crimes has Trump committed does this person imagine has Mueller discovered?

A stunning feature of the drama Trump has inflicted on the country is that we have become inured to daily dishonesty of an unprecedented sweep and magnitude. We acquiesce, or at least cease to push back against, the argument that lying to the media and public is no crime.

we have become "inured" to "dishonest" because of this? It's almost as if the Obama adminstration and decades of Hillary and Bill's Clinton's shenanigans never happened. Trust me, people in this country are extremely acclimatized to powerful people lying to their faces. That's one of the big reasons we got Trump. Politicians lying is par for the course. It's what is lied about that is significant.

Fernandistein said...

Squirrels can dance about architecture.

rcocean said...

I'm hoping Trump fires Mueller, because the story is getting to be a big bore. Its been dragging on for a year, "Russian Collusion" almost 2 years.

Into turning into Valarie Phlame level dullness.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

We acquiesce, or at least cease to push back against, the argument that lying to the media and public is no crime.

Exactly what crime do you think it is? Please link to the text of the statute.

tim in vermont said...

Can bees dance about architecture?

Michael K said...

Of course Mueller is using the "investigation" to affect the midterms!

If they can take Congress, the exposure of the Deep State is over.

Nonapod said...

I believed it was an Aerosmith video and I listened for about 10 seconds thinking, Aerosmith is a lot better than I thought.

To be fair, the last thing ACDC wrote that I cared for was probably that Big Gun song (which was for that goofy Last Action Hero movie). But Aerosmith hasn't writtien anything that great since the 70s (Toys in the Attic, Draw the Line). Although I do like the song Nine Lives.

Amadeus 48 said...

Team Mueller:"Come out now with your hands up. We have Big Guns. Throw out your weapons first."
Trump/Giuliani: "Come and take them."

Curious George said...

"...and as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger..."

Delusional.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Litman links his "Even as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III marches forward with his prosecution of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort . . ." statement to a WaPo story with the headline "Longtime Manafort deputy Rick Gates admits embezzlement".
Gates is Mueller's witness, not Manafort's witness.
I do not understand how it is possible for an intelligent, educated person to read junk like this and think that they are being informed. Honestly, the anti-Trump editiorials that appear in virtually every newspaper, day after day, seem to be written by people driven insane by Trump hatred.
Mueller's investigation may or may not lead to proof of collusion between Trump's campaign and Russian state actors, but there is no sign that it will. When I read between the lines I see a prosecuter who knows that he has failed to make a case, and who now wants to bring obstruction of justice charges. Meaning that the investigation itself produced the crime.

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Totalitarian leftists sure do like to "march forward"

Creeps.

rhhardin said...

Even as special counsel Robert S. Mueller III marches forward with his ...

There should be an essay on "even as" sentences in literature.

"Little did he know" is parallel.

See Stranger Than Fiction (2006)

Amadeus 48 said...

Given developments in the Manafort trial, it's time to republish my masterwork, Mueller on the Hunt:

Mueller and a pack of Dems
Set off to snare a Trump.
Instead he tripped on Manafort,
And fell upon his rump.
“He's laundered money shamelessly
And lived a hog on high!”
Trump zoomed by in motorcade,
He twittered on the fly:
“Don’t be downcast dear Bob,
There’s other prey out there.
Hillary deserves a look.
She’s played footsie with the Bear.”

Mueller and his pack of Dems
Set off cross bog and fen.
“There’s criminals in that there swamp.
We’ll catch ‘em if we can.
Anyone know that Hillary?
He sounds a nasty bloke.
Keep you eyes and noses clear
Cuz where there’s fire there’s smoke!”

So off went Mueller fearlessly
Seeking out a crime.
He’s got guns and men enough
Bought with the public’s dime.
He’ll huff and puff most mightily
Until he claims a prize.
The rest of us get on with life
And try to hide our eyes.

Balfegor said...

Re: Lewis Wetzel:

Mueller's investigation may or may not lead to proof of collusion between Trump's campaign and Russian state actors, but there is no sign that it will. When I read between the lines I see a prosecuter who knows that he has failed to make a case, and who now wants to bring obstruction of justice charges.

If you strip away all the groundless speculation by the media, isn't obstruction actually the only piece of the Mueller investigation that has ever been confirmed to involve Trump directly? Comey (privately) confirmed to Trump multiple times that he was not under investigation, and it was only after the potential "obstruction" charge arising from Comey's termination that it was kicked over to a special counsel. And Comey (and Strzok et al.) had been investigating the same subject matter as the Mueller for months at that point.

There's somewhat more grounds to speculate about potential criminal election law violations in connection with payoffs to porn stars and mistresses (reviving the theory from the failed John Edwards prosecution), but Mueller affirmatively decided to spin the Michael Cohen investigation off to one of the US Attorneys' offices reporting up to the President, which -- unless Mueller is actually just as much of a crook as some of Trump's supporters think he is -- strongly suggests that Mueller and Rosenstein evaluated the evidence available and decided it was unlikely Trump was involved (since investigating your boss is a potential conflict for a line prosecutor, and is the whole justification for these special counsel investigations in the first place).

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...
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Amadeus 48 said...

The "Even as..." rubric can be filed right next to the movie teaser "In a world where..."

Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

When democrats lie to your faces, it's for your own good. Media concur.

Original Mike said...

”as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger”

That’s Inga territory.

rhhardin said...

"Little did he know that this simple, seemingly innocuous act... ...would lead to his imminent death."
- What?
- "Little did he know that this--"
- Did you say, "little did he know"?
- Yes.
I've written papers on "little did he know." I used to teach a class based on "little did he know." I mean, I once gave an entire seminar on "little did he know." Son of a bitch, Harold. "Little did he know" means there's something he doesn't know... ...that means there's something you don't know. Did you know that? I want you to come back Friday.

- Stranger than Fiction (2006)

gilbar said...

Aerosmith?
HERE'S YOUR AEROSMITH! Most Best Walk This Way, EVER!

Khesanh 0802 said...

What a steaming pile: a has-been law prof at the 95th ranked school in the country gets his 15 minutes of infamy.. From the latest it's beginning to look like the evidence of malfeasance at the FBI are piling up with the latest news of their relations with a "Russian Oligarch" (Deripaska). Why do I suspect that Trump is holding some hole cards for the appropriate time?

cubanbob said...

Mueller was FBI Director when Hillary Clinton with the approval of Barack Obama purposefully set up her email server to evade record keeping laws and thus future accountability while endangering national security. The FBI is in charge of counter intelligence. Mueller seriously screwed the pooch with respects to this while FBI Director. Mueller is doing what he is doing as a CYA for himself, Comey, Rosenstein and for Obama. I suspect absent a terrible loss for the Republicans in Congress this November, Trump will bring this garbage to a close after the election and let the prosecutors loose on the Democrats. He will have nothing to lose by doing so and plenty to gain by doing so.

rhhardin said...

Set a have-a-heart perjury trap.

Fernandistein said...

This is a real sentence from an actual "book":

"If we can't find the answer in Latvia, where can we find it?"

johnhenry100 said...

Blogger Ignorance is Bliss said...

We acquiesce, or at least cease to push back against, the argument that lying to the media and public is no crime.

Exactly what crime do you think it is? Please link to the text of the statute.


Not only is lying to the media no crime, it is almost an obligation.

John Henry

tcrosse said...

If we can't find Riga in Latvia, where can we find it?

mccullough said...

Trump could have told Comey back off Flynn or you’re fired and it’s not obstruction. The executive power includes criminal prosecutions and the executive power is the president’s. He is free to delegate it to those below him in the executive branch but he can take it back whenever he wants. There is no obstruction.

Only douchebags like Coney and Mueller think the FBI/DOJ is a co-equal branch of government. Comey found out he hard way what any law prof should know. The president is the head of the executive branch. Trump should tell Comey to drop dead, after he reminds that any president not named Bush or Obama would have fired Comey for his $5.5 million anthrax investigation fuckup.

mccullough said...

Tell Mueller to drop dead, not Comey. Trump already told Comey to drop dead after he fired him.

Fernandistein said...

@gilbar -
Whole Lotta Sabbath

buwaya said...

Sadly there is no actual dancing in the video.

Some architecture does indeed invite music and dancing.

Drago said...

The Investigation night air grew sultry and heavy. Outside it was quiet. Too quiet. Perhaps the obvious and massive Trump crimes were fatigued from vamoosing from house to house to stay away from the dogged investigators of Mueller's Marauders.....

Humperdink said...

Mueller brings out the big guns.

Trump: "My (nuclear) button is bigger" than your guns.

Hagar said...

Bringing "big guns" to bear on such small targets is likely to be counter-productive.

buwaya said...

Often this architecture is misused.
Your pretty Capitol in Madison for instance should be used for better things than politics.

johnhenry100 said...

Anyone remember the McMartin Pre-School case back in the 80's? Yeah, lots of lives were ruined over that. From the git-go it was ridiculous on its face.

You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

By 1989 it had already started to fall apart. That summer I found myself sitting next to a journo from the Louisville Courier Journal at a dinner. Somehow this came up and she was covering it.

I was pretty skeptical. She was upset that I would be skeptical. I remember her specifically saying to me "If it weren't true it would not be getting so much coverage. 75% (or some large, questionable percentage) of the public believe it. They wouldn't believe it if it weren't true."

I don't remember if I told he "Bullshit" but I realized that conversation was fruitless. She was not some newbie. She was in her 30s and had been a journo for a while.

I think this is what is happening with the collusion. We have fake news journos repeating the collusion and crime story which has always been sketchy at best then using the fact that some large percentage of the public believe it as proof that it is true.

We have people commenting here that are like that. We have others, including myself, commenting that it is not true based on stuff others say.

Very few people really know and they aren't talking. But it is fun to bloviate about it. As I and others are prone to do.

John Henry

John Pickering said...

Ann specializes in disguising whether her confusion is genuine or feigned. It's possible she doesn't understand a fairly common usage of tango to mean an interaction marked by a lack of straightforwardness, but it doesn't matter anyway, her attention span is such that she can't be bothered to read the article.
Many of Ann's readers profess themselves in the dark about what possible crimes the president may have committed. The current and upcoming Manafort trials offer a partial menu: money laundering, bank and wire fraud, income tax evasion and other financial crimes, as well as political crimes such as the one called "conspiracy to defraud the US", namely by scheming with a hostile foreign power to rig an election. Mueller is also said to be seeking evidence to bring obstruction of justice charges along with his inquiries into Trump's forays into bribery and espionage.
Of course Ann and many of her readers don't think those are crimes, so long as they have been committed by the president. They think the same way about crimes committed by Chris Collins, Wilbur Ross, Scott Pruitt, Jim Jordan and so on and on. Hey, when is main Justice going to catch on and let Manafort go?

After he dies in his prison cell.

gilbar said...

Fernandstein; that was pretty good mashup; but needed More Cowbell


Drago said...

John Pickering: "Ann specializes in disguising whether her confusion is genuine or feigned."

Says the guy who literally argued that the US increasing energy production was responsible for increasing world oil prices.

Literally!

LOL

That was some LLR Chuck-level stupidity on that one. Though, to Pickerings credit, it wasn't quite as bad as Ritmo's arguing that lightbulbs and large mid-western houses and agri-farms were responsible for human feces on the sidewalks of SF.

So Pickering has that going for him. Which is nice. One supposes......

Quite frankly, I'm surprised Pickering has the energy to post, what with tremendous expenditure of energy by the lefties complaining about an offer to debate from Ben Shapiro to AOC constituting a catcall.

LOL

Ken B said...

I thought that quote was from Gore Vidal, but I have no idea why I thought that.

mccullough said...

Manafort will get a pardon like Susan McDougal, Cap Weinberger and the other Iran Contra guys, etc. DC is predictable. Mueller is no different than Walsh and Starr and the result will be the same. Mueller will go back to defending the NFL and will get a short obituary when he dies. Maybe he and Starr can open a consulting business.

Yancey Ward said...

"Janie Mueller's got a big gun" just doesn't set well with music.

rhhardin said...

tango tangere tetigi tactus, to touch

Mike said...

It's a shit sandwich! It has two bland slices of whitebread prose that Althouse highlighted with this non-sequitur falsity slipped in between:

as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger

How exactly, with all the available public information that points away from Mueller even having any kind of case against Trump, does the author expect his audience to swallow this chunky wishcasting lie? Are there still people that think Trump violated the law? What law? How exactly? The time for detailed facts is nigh, and the electorate is restless.

narciso said...

Well not only the NFL but Facebook and banamex, so Mueller is going after Roger stones aide, for his stapler collection.

~ Gordon Pasha said...

"Following law school, Mr. Litman served as a law clerk to Judge Abner Mikva of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit; Justice Thurgood Marshall of the United States Supreme Court; and Justice Anthony Kennedy of the United States Supreme Court." No confirmation bias by this attorney.

mccullough said...

I think Mueller hasn’t found anything yet but still has the anthrax sniffing dogs look into it. Eventually the dogs will sniff something and he will totally embarrass himself again. Mueller is too arrogant to have any shame. And too incompetent to get the job done. The anthrax killer gets away with it and Wall Street financiers get away with it while Sideshow Bob investigates Barry Bonds. Of course Bonds, the all time leader in walks, walked away from that dumb fucking investigation with an acquittal on all counts.

Drago said...

Mike: "How exactly, with all the available public information that points away from Mueller even having any kind of case against Trump, does the author expect his audience to swallow this chunky wishcasting lie?"

The lefty voice-actuated automatons, like Pickering, need their daily tummy rubs and soothing assurances that its all going to be alright.....

Richard Dolan said...

Trump tangos to the tune of noli me tangere.

narciso said...

Mueller has his man in the southern district, khuzaimi covering with a pillow with a pillow, podesta and Weber, who actually were the ones who did the lobbying.

Big Mike said...

The Post is hoping to con some other weak-minded Bernie Bro (not that there’s any other kind of Bernie Bro) like James Hodgkinson to take a pot shot at Donald Trump. Hence the violent imagery, especially the reference to guns.

mezzrow said...

“You can’t always write a chord ugly enough to say what you want to say, so sometimes you have to rely on a giraffe filled with whipped cream.” - FZ - from the comments at the link.

This stood out. Someone needs to adapt that to politics. Politically, Trump is somewhat like a giraffe filled with whipped cream, now that I think of it.

tim in vermont said...

The case against Trump grows stronger the same way the case for global warming grows stronger. The true believers work themselves into greater and greater dudgeon over the same scant ration of evidence they had from the beginning.

narciso said...

Instead of the collapse of pdvsa. Of course I've posited this whole kerfluffle is much more about qatar and the threat trump policies to it.

Comanche Voter said...

Mike at 1105 has it right about what's on the menu----a flaming pile of manure sandwiched between not much.

I don't see any "growing evidence that Trump engaged in criminal conduct". If so, just what was it? The writer, busily shoveling horse manure does not deign to tell us.

Could Trump be successfully impeached? Impeachment is a political, not a judicial act. And if the Dems manage to flip both the House and the Senate in the mid terms, it could happen. Crying Chuck Schumer and Advancing Alzheimers Pelosi will be under tremendous pressure from such as Maxine Gate Mouth Waters to do just that.

buwaya said...

They waltzed at the Congress of Vienna, and at the Duchess of Richmonds Ball before Waterloo.

Thats missing today. A glorious ball would improve the tone tremendously, and dancing lessons probably would improve the tone of the participants.

They could all dress better too.

narciso said...

're apelbaum in the comments to his data mining exercise, helper and Steele were in communication in May 2016, this was before hurricane cross fire was initially underway.

Drago said...

buwaya: "Thats missing today. A glorious ball would improve the tone tremendously, and dancing lessons probably would improve the tone of the participants."

What we could really use is a grand parade.....

Yancey Ward said...

This is one of those op-eds that will be linked to in the future as evidence that Trump has likely committed a crime.

buwaya said...

A tango implies an intimate interaction, as per the dance.
It does not imply a lack of straightforwardness, rather the opposite, also as per the dance.

Not a lot of people really tango these days, mores the pity.

The most popular modern reference is of course in "Scent of a woman", Al Pacino tangos with an almost absurdly dewy Gabrielle Anwar.

Howard said...

What's missing today is princes and kings on the front line of battle.

Trumpit said...

I no longer read posts about Trump. He's a waste of my time. He's a liar and a fool. He should be tarred and feathered, then impeached and jailed. Mueller is being extra careful because the Rethuglicans control Congress. If Trump is guilty of treason, then impeachment is a slam dunk,and off to the slammer he goes. There will be no buxom blond porn stars waiting for him in Sing Sing. He's Done Done.

buwaya said...

True re princes and kings.
As recently as WWII nearly all the leaders of the great powers had seen battle.
FDR was the main exception.

MB said...

It takes two to tango.

walter said...

Promoting Gun Violence!
Mueller isn't exactly a straight shooter.

Drago said...

Howard: "What's missing today is princes and kings on the front line of battle."

I think Mattis, who is a real peach as opposed to a King or a Prince, would have no problem being at the point of the spear.

Perhaps he could declare his right to rule by conquest and unleash his hordes upon the deep state.

Drago said...

We could use another Henry V / William of Orange.

FullMoon said...


Previously undisclosed evidence in the possession of Special Counsel Robert Mueller—including highly confidential White House records and testimony by some of President Trump’s own top aides—provides some of the strongest evidence to date implicating the president of the United States in an obstruction of justice.

stever said...

"as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger"

Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things

Sebastian said...

"as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger"

Others have covered the wishful thinking involved here.

Question for the legal eggheads here: how can someone obstruct justice if there is no justice to obstruct?

FullMoon said...

"as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger"

Just never ending. This one depends upon Comey's recollection of something Trump may have said. Then, spin that 'recollection' from a casual statement by Trump into a direct order to Comey.

Howard said...

Mattis was not a prince when he was at the tip of the spear.

Howard said...

Blogger walter said...

Promoting Gun Violence!
Mueller isn't exactly a straight shooter.


According to Wikipedia, Mueller qualified as a toilet seat, just like Oswald.

Howard said...

I preferred Henry the Fifth's younger cousin, Hank the Pint

Howard said...

Trump did navigate the battlefield of STDs in the 70's and 80's.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

the Tangerine Tornado Tangos

Mike said...

Another whiff from FullMoon. That excerpt is another strongly worded nothingburger. The whole premise rests on Trump “obstructing” by asking Comey to consider clearing Flynn. That’s it. Think that’s obstruction? You’ll have trouble proving it since Comey testified under oath that he did NOT feel pressured by Trump and understood Trump was simply advocating for his friend to have the situation resolved. Add to that the fact Trump’s words did not slow or stop the investigation of Flynn and there is no prima facia evidence of obstruction. It doesn’t matter what Trump’s staff told him about Flynn or any of the other nonsense the author Moon linked to says. If Comey wasn’t pressured and said so under oath there’s no case. Period.

Nice try FullMoon.

Mike said...

Oh it was ironic?

JAORE said...

Maybe Meuller should skip the tango and pirouette towards admitting he's holding an empty bag of cats.

Schrodinger cats,of course.

Darkisland said...

 Trumpit said...

I no longer read posts about Trump.
====


And yet here you are with more of your own special brand of horseshit.

Sounds like your statement is a lie

John Henry

narciso said...

Waas, was taken for a ride, in plamegate, he still fall for 'the banana in the tailpipe'

Original Mike said...

Blogger Trumpit said...”I no longer read posts about Trump.”

Yeah, the lefties tend to avoid these posts now that the collusion narrative has run off the rails.

Pianoman said...

If you want to get a better understand of how things like the McMartin Preschool hysteria happens, I recommend the following:

https://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Madness-Crowds/dp/1463740514/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=D2C7KZYRPGYD8E8GH2Z9

It's a scholarly book, so it can sometimes be a bit of a slog, but the author goes into great detail regarding mass hysterias through history (tulips, Salem witch trials, South Sea trading, etc).

I came away from this book with a better understanding of how it's entirely possible to whip up masses of people into shrieking hysteria over untruths.

Bad Lieutenant said...

John Pickering said...
Ann specializes in disguising whether her confusion is genuine or feigned. It's possible she doesn't understand a fairly common usage of tango to mean an interaction marked by a lack of straightforwardness, but it doesn't matter anyway, her attention span is such that she can't be bothered to read the article


We know she's a ditz. She's a blue-eyed blonde with big tits. That's her excuse. What's yours?

Seeing Red said...

Who knew buying an ostrich jacket would cause all this turmoil?

Otto said...

Law is dominated by left activists. Does not bode well for the rule of law.

Jim at said...

That’s Inga territory.

That 'territory' is filled with drooling imbeciles.

Trumpit said...

I have serious work to do, and no time to waste on fools like you. @John Henry, You've assumed the role of the biggest horse's ass around. You have Trump's golf-course manure for brain. You're no Patrick Henry: "Give me liberty or death!" You want us all enslaved by the worst president since Nixon, Donald Duck Schlump. When Trump crashes - and he will - I expect you to grovel, and hide your head in shame like the loathsome coward that you are.

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Jim at said...

then impeachment is a slam dunk,and off to the slammer he goes.

Someone thinks impeachment means jail time.

Which is why Bill Clinton was sentenced to how many months?

FullMoon said...
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Trumpit said...

Close the comments' section until Trump is impeached, and removed from office. No one needs listen to the Deplorable Dumbass Trolls' (DDT) idiocy ever again. They are poison.

Real American said...

""as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger"

And they wonder why people call them Fake News! if you're going to make statements like that, show your fucking work!

There's literally no evidence that Trump has engaged in any criminal conduct or that Mueller even has any. We know that because it hasn't leaked out yet. That's why Mueller is so desperate to interview Trump - to create evidence in a perjury trap.

Notice also that Mueller doesn't even want to ask Trump about the Russian collusion bullshit - a tell that he no evidence of that so-called crime. He's focused on the obstruction of justice allegation, which is also impossible because Trump can fire Comey for any damn reason he wants to, and the tweets as obstruction argument is just plain silly. Then again, the Mueller investigation is not about criminal activity, it's about finding a justification for impeachment.

Thus, he wants to get Trump lying about something, which could happen if Trump is not super-precise with his words, which he isn't typically, and then it's on to the impeachment over fibbing under oath just like Bill Clinton - though as we all know, most Dems are on record that lying under oath is not a High Crime or Misdemeanor. Not that it matters to them. They don't even need an investigation - they say ridiculous things like "as the case that President Trump engaged in criminal conduct grows stronger" and some of their retard followers actually believe that nonsense. They want to impeach Trump for being Trump and not being some craven leftist guilt-ridden PC groveling asshole. They got him dead to rights on that one, but all it really does is show what sore fucking losers they are.

Trumpit said...

@Real America, New trolls we don't need, or want. Find a rock to crawl under, and dine on worms. That is all there will be to eat after idiot Trump, your buddy, wrecks the economy.

traditionalguy said...

Love it. The guns of August begin.

narciso said...

now he faces William 'cool 500 k' Jefferson's atty, as judge, she'll let a semi go through the courtroom, yes that amy berman Jackson,

Drago said...

Howard: "Mattis was not a prince when he was at the tip of the spear"

As I clearly indicated in my post.

hence: peach

bagoh20 said...

Well put, Real America. That covers it all, and that's all there is. Now, what Obama, Hillary, and the other corrupt power grabbers have done goes much deeper, and uglier.

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n.n said...

Scalpels, machetes, ... have proven to be more effective when targeting a captive audience.

Trumpit said...

@bigsnot20,

Schlump stole the erection from Hillary in 2016. We are in 2018, and stuck with the worst president since Nixon. Get real, and wake up from your coma. Mueller will take care of Schlump, but not in the manner to which he is accustomed. No one is above the law some idiot once said. Let's hope that it at least applies to Schlump's high crimes and misdemeanors.

Drago said...

Trumpit: "No one is above the law some idiot once said."

Except for every single democrat.

MikeyParks said...

Stating something as if it were a fact doesn't make it a fact. However, it's an effective writing technique for swaying the Leftie chumps among us, who're ready to accept any negative pronouncement about Trump. Fact is, there is no case against Trump, so the case isn't getting stronger.

Howard said...

Drago: thanks, my vocabulary and reading comprehension requires simpler words than monosyllables.

Chuck said...

Back when Donald Trump was nursing his heel spurs and going bowling, Lt. Bob Mueller of the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines was bringing out some pretty big guns.

Darrell said...

Chuck was going to serve. But he decided that his best service would be to criticize Trump for not serving--except as Commander-in-Chief now.

Thank you, Chuck, for your service!

Michael said...

Trumpit
Question for you. When the tonton macoute had their way with you was there brain damage? Left or right lobes?

n.n said...

WaPo's globalist influence that struts and frets its headlines until the target resigns, is Occupied by antagonistic forces, or is assaulted in a baseball stadium, their front lawn, over a dinner with friends, etc.

CWJ said...

"That is all there will be to eat after idiot Trump, your buddy, wrecks the economy."

He's sure taking his time, He's even got it going in the wrong direction. Not like Obama and the Dems. Nosiree. When they got a down economy, they made sure it stayed down. They even told us it was the new normal.

Jon Ericson said...

My scrolling finger is getting tired.

Jack Wayne said...

LLR is impressed with Mueller’s 4 MONTHS of combat. Mueller and Kerry - twins separated at birth.

Francisco D said...

"LLR is impressed with Mueller’s 4 MONTHS of combat. Mueller and Kerry - twins separated at birth."

I looked up Mueller's length of service. Google gave me websites that treated him like he was the greatest military hero ever.

Hmm. If he really is a Republican (who went to prep school with Kerry) I doubt that he would get such uncritical treatment from the MSM.

The deep state is a hydra.

Bad Lieutenant said...


Chuck said...
Back when Donald Trump was nursing his heel spurs and going bowling, Lt. Bob Mueller of the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines was bringing out some pretty big guns.

8/10/18, 3:57 PM


Hey, just think, if Mueller hadn't served, we might have lost the Vietnam War!

Wonder what kinds of failures, prodigalities, and injustices he accomplished over there. Hey, maybe if he hadn't served (and taken his butt-buddy Kerry with him), we WOULD have won.

Rusty said...

Please don't feed the mouth breathers.
It ruins the continuity of an otherwise good debate.

GRW3 said...

The “crime” in Bezosland are the tariffs. A lot of things Amazon sells are not price elastic. Jeff will still make a big profit, just not as big as before.