July 29, 2018

"We have 2.7 percent unemployment, an opioid crisis that has significantly impacted employability and the reality of an aging population that will absolutely require direct service care at some point."

Said a professor quoted in "New Hampshire, 94 Percent White, Asks: How Do You Diversify a Whole State?" (NYT).

"How Do You Diversify a Whole State?" is one question. Why do you want to diversify the whole state? is another. And it is the question the quote I picked out seems to answer. The state needs a lot of health-care workers to tend to the existing sick and unemployable population.

142 comments:

Ignorance is Bliss said...

You don't need to diversify to get health care workers. You just need to raise the amount you are willing to pay. That will likely draw in a more diverse workforce. But diversity was never the need.

Etienne said...

Maine and New Hampshire should be given to Mexico.

Then the Mexicans can migrate easily to Canada.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Also note that at least part of the problem is government entitlement programs. Medicare and Medicaid pay for services where the recipient is located. If the individual was paying with their own money, they would have incentive to move to where the cheap labor already existed.

Fernandinande said...

"New Hampshire, currently being featured as too white and thus needing a dose of diversity good and hard, ranks third among the 50 states in both 8th grade reading and math on the federal NAEP school achievement test."

Pic of white anti-white racist Catalina Celentano.

rehajm said...

If you fire the people who are keeping diversity scores and stop shelling out all the money for all the diversity studies you will have more money to hire whoever the hell you can get.

rehajm said...

The unspoken implication is that nonwhite people can be had for less money because they can be had.

Etienne said...

Sooner or later all the drug abusers will be dead.

Donc, no more crisis.

Bay Area Guy said...

The quest for "diversity" as the highest societal value is just stupid. Nobody cares if New Hampshire happens to have mostly white, pasty citizens. Maybe they should convince some Haitians or Eskimos to spruce up the place.

langford peel said...

It's simple.

Bring back slavery.

Sebastian said...

""How Do You Diversify a Whole State?" is one question. Why do you want to diversify the whole state? is another. And it is the question the quote I picked out seems to answer. The state needs a lot of health-care workers to tend to the existing sick and unemployable population."

Or: why do you think "diversifying" is the answer to your care-giving problem?

It couldn't be because, being white and all up in NH, you think care is a low-wage job for dumb, low-skill, "diverse" minorities, do you?

Jeff Weimer said...

It seems Mrs. Celetano (and Paula Parnagian) is trying to drum up some business.

It also seems that the "problems" cited are largely self-correcting (sufficient demand for ethnic services and products will bring them, housing/rental stocks will adjust to demand), and they are trying to put the cart before the horse.

Phil 314 said...

Using the same logic we should only elect whites to Congress to diversify DC.

Big Mike said...

So white people can’t or won’t do those health-related jobs? Asking for a friend.

Big Mike said...

@Phil, that’s beautiful!

Mark said...

“I went from being able to speak Spanish every day to not speaking Spanish at all because there wasn’t anybody to speak Spanish to,”

I suppose it's because I'm old white and male that I don't understand why this is a problem.

Or as a native New Hampshire-ite why I should be blamed.

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MD Greene said...


When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Paco Wové said...

"Nobody cares if New Hampshire happens to have mostly white, pasty citizens."

The New York Times cares. They care very much.

ga6 said...

Once diversity reaches 15% it is time to put the house up for sale...

langford peel said...

It's OK to be White.

We don't have to apologize.

Hagar said...

Here in Albuquerque I am also only speaking to myself if I speak Norwegian.

Psota said...

I guess if you can't use the "crops rotting in the fields" argument, then the back-up is "who will empty the bed pans. "

Michael Fitzgerald said...

What does the health or age or addictions of a population have to do with "diversity"? Is there something preventing the local population from fulfilling the requirements of a stable society? Are there no health care workers the same race as the people in need?
Fucking progs who think being Mexican is a requirement for mowing lawns and cleaning houses are now arguing that nurses and doctors need to be foreigners to be legitimate, is that it? Or are they just making up bullshit excuses for the prog end game of replacing the hated Caucasian populace with superior foreigners of color, who will vote for Democrat party members always.

Tommy Duncan said...

Can someone explain to me (without yelling) why racial diversity is so important? I understand how intellectual and artistic diversity have value. But if our goal is a color blind society, why does racial diversity matter? Why should I care what the racial makeup of my state is if I'm color blind? Is freedom of association a dead concept?

A second, related inquiry: If cultural appropriation is wrong why are there so many Mexican, Thai and Chinese restaurants? What counts as cultural appropriation? Should Mexicans be banned from McDonalds?

tim maguire said...

We should diversify, not just because minorities wash our dishes, sweep our floors, and clean our bedpans, but also because minorities have better food.

rhhardin said...

Keeping old people alive is contributing to the problem.

Fernandinande said...

@Psota - old people rotting in the fields.

"Little Miss Sunshine" addresses the "opioid* crisis":

Sheryl: He started snorting heroin.

Frank: You started snorting heroin?

Grandpa: I'm old! [To grandson] And don't you start taking that shit. When you're young, you're crazy to do that stuff.

Frank: Well what about you?

Grandpa: What about me? I'm old! When you're old you're crazy not to do it.


*that silly word always makes me think of someone pretending to be Opie Taylor, but not doing it right.

BUMBLE BEE said...

I've never seen a lifetime cost associated per individual of this "immigration" crisis. Certainly the lifetime toll has to be in the neighborhood of $1 million per. Expensive help cost well hidden from view. Catch and release policework of all kinds has an enormous impact on society financially and morally. Just listening to our socialist "pop stars" fatuous tax plan is terrifying. Do democrats leave their houses and cars unlocked? Good to be old!

Etienne said...

Every Semester we invite the French teacher and her students to dinner. We have a rule that if you speak an English word then you have to take a sip from this cup labelled "Old Tennis Shoes" which is just some Dr. Pepper.

My favorite joke, when each student identifies their fourchette is I raise mine, which has five prongs and say "J'ai une fivechette!"

My wife says "boire les chaussures de tennis!"

Ann Althouse said...

"You don't need to diversify to get health care workers. You just need to raise the amount you are willing to pay. That will likely draw in a more diverse workforce. But diversity was never the need."

But that's my point. They need people who will accept low pay, and this is the kind of work that is traditionally low-paying. So the simplest approach is to just get the kind of people who will take jobs like this — and to do them industriously — to be willing and able to live in New Hampshire. Just paying more and more until you get some of the kind of people who already live in New Hampshire is doing it the hard way.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Damn shame that a foreigner goes to a rural area of the northern United States and can't find anyone to speak their foreign language to. What an indictment of New Hampshire and America. Quick Democrats, bring in millions of illegal aliens please to make foreigners feel more at home in our country.

mccullough said...

When you get old in New Hampshire, move to Mexico.

It costs a lot to send Spanish speaking kids of below average intelligence to US schools. Instead of raising taxes to pay for this, creating a large and permanent underclass, it’s easier to raise taxes to pay nourishing home and home health care workers more. There are US citizens, born and raised here, who do this.

Also, let’s not forget the robots. When they can cut the lawns and raise the kids of the wealthy, the Mexicans (and Jamaicans, etc) won’t be needed anymore. All because wealthy whites people, especially progressives, don’t want to hire blacks (or pay whites more). It makes them feel like white people in Mississippi in the 1950s with The Help. Too exploitative. They don’t feel bad about exploiting The Wetbacks.

Ann Althouse said...

And let me be clear: I suspect the white people in New Hampshire of putting an opposite-of-racism spin on their "diversity" program when the interests that motivate them are not so pretty.

I was steeped in Critical Race Theory, which — as I understood it — demands that you test everything by asking how it might really be about serving the interests of the white majority.

n.n said...

Color or occupational diversity?

For the latter, they need to address asset inflation schemes that make employment at tech and other companies without tangible products attractive to our Posterity.

They need to address immigration reform that harms prospects of labor on the left-hand side of the bell curve.

They need to address so-called "free trade" with nations that do not conform with labor and environmental regulations (i.e. implicit tariffs) in our own nation, thereby creating an illusion of affordability while driving down wages (and increasing welfare) and employment.

They need to address the cost of education in a system that is the most expensive in the world and does not produce in even the top ten. The same with medical care where the costs are progressive and not service-oriented.

They need to address Planned Parenthood including selective-child and population control schemes that harm native diversity (i.e. people) and sustainability.

bagoh20 said...

To diversify the state you first start by forced diversity of the family unit. All relationships need to be licensed by the state which would require quotas for family membership representing all races.

Eventually, we can move to personal diversity with every citizen being multiracial. I wonder if we still have the building plans for Saddam's rape rooms.

Phil 314 said...

If I were an immigrant from Guatemala I’d wonder “surely there’s got to be better and warmer place to live than Dix Notch, NH.”

Carol said...

Outside magazine is complaining that Missoula is too white. Why aren't more diversity moving here to enjoy our kayaking, mountain biking, and skiing? It's like they never heard of Stuff White People Like.

Our local adult ed has a CNA training program, filled with mostly young single moms whose tuition is paid by grants. It's working out just fine.

With any luck the city will address the Crisis by hiring a $100k Diversity Officer and be done with it. No use fighting it. Anyone who resists Diversity instantly becomes radioactive. They'll find ways to ruin you, even if you're retired.



Phil 314 said...

PS You can head north of the border from New Hampshire for a place that doesn’t speak English but your Spanish won’t be much help.

n.n said...

Keeping old people alive is contributing to the problem.

Yes, we need Planned Parent (PP) to reduce the disparity between young and old populations. I believe that liberals from yesteryear were concerned that our society was intolerant of euthanasia to promote quality of life and social progress.

Market misalignments forced by single-payer (e.g. insurance regulation, Medicare, Medicaid) and other monopoly practices contributes to the problem through promotion of artificial payment and cost structures. We don't need medical care reform. We have world-class products and services. We need health care (i.e. self-moderating, responsible individuals and education) and regulatory reform.

mccullough said...

Putting fools into university positions such as Critical Race Professor was the idea of the White Majority. It served its interest. Getting minorities to fight over sinecures and white endowment money was fun to watch. It was the Hunger Games. Watching them outdo each other in outrage was entertaining. Cornel West is the Champ. What a minstrel that guy is. But Skip Gates deserves some props. That White House beer summit with Obama and the cop (and Biden who was the Ambassador to Working Class Whites) was the Camp David Acvords of the Obama Years.

Watching them churn out graduates like Ocasio-Cortez is also amusing. She should be President of Harvard. But that’s a job for Whitey.

FullMoon said...

"You don't need to diversify to get health care workers. You just need to raise the amount you are willing to pay. That will likely draw in a more diverse workforce. But diversity was never the need."

But that's my point. They need people who will accept low pay, and this is the kind of work that is traditionally low-paying. So the simplest approach is to just get the kind of people who will take jobs like this — and to do them industriously — to be willing and able to live in New Hampshire. Just paying more and more until you get some of the kind of people who already live in New Hampshire is doing it the hard way.

There is no problem, yet.
When and if healthcare workers become in short supply, the value of a health care worker will rise as will their pay. If it pays more, maybe some of those white people will be inclined to take the job. Apparently nobody in New Hampshire takes any sort of low paying job now.

Anonymous said...

Paco to Bay Area Guy: "Nobody cares if New Hampshire happens to have mostly white, pasty citizens."

The New York Times cares. They care very much.


Indeed.

Disturbingly typical that most of the responses here to decidedly unsubtle anti-white propaganda are variants of "see, liberals are the real racists!".

Sure, the people behind the editorial decisions are looking for cheap labor (subsidized by tax-payer-funded social services) for their own benefit. But when the prestige, mainstream press is pumping out nasty "these kinds of people are problematic" propaganda (and "these kinds of people" are people like me and mine), day after day, year after year, my first reaction isn't to feel a need to establish my non-racist bona fides.

chickelit said...

Althouse wrote: “I was steeped in Critical Race Theory, which — as I understood it — demands that you test everything by asking how it might really be about serving the interests of the white majority.”

You have praised critical race theory numerous times throughout your blog’s history. And you have praised its proponents. Have you ever been critical of critical race theory?

Paco Wové said...

"It seems Mrs. Celetano ... is trying to drum up some business"

Mrs. Celetano is one of those Hispanic immigrants that LLR's have assured me are "natural conservatives". And yet here she is, doing her damnedest to re-create her native Columbia in the adopted country. That may be "naturally conservative" to the Bush family, but it doesn't really count in my book.

Paco Wové said...

"test everything by asking how it might really be about serving the interests of the white majority."

Wait, serving the interests of the majority in a democratic republic is now bad?

Anonymous said...

To further my point, there is nothing in any of the allegedly economics-based arguments about why New Hampshire needs immigrants that requires or implies any need for racial or ethnic diversity. So why are they thrown together like that? If you suggested, e.g., "hey, there are a hell of a lot of lower-class white south Africans who would be willing to work for low pay for the opportunity to emigrate, why don't you recruit them?", you would likely find the answer, ahem, clarifying.

chickelit said...

“Wait, serving the interests of the majority in a democratic republic is now bad?”

Althouse is counter majoritarian in outlook, I’d say it even outweighs her hippie tendencies.

Danno said...


Blogger Angle-Dyne, Angelic Buzzard said..."But when the prestige, mainstream press is pumping out nasty "these kinds of people are problematic" propaganda (and "these kinds of people" are people like me and mine), day after day, year after year, my first reaction isn't to feel a need to establish my non-racist bona fides."

I didn't sense this was people trying to establish non-racist bonafides, but rather just pointing at the sheer hypocrisy (racism) of assuming colored people are needed to staff nursing homes and the like.

Anonymous said...

Cyrillic Chickelit: You have praised critical race theory numerous times throughout your blog’s history. And you have praised its proponents. Have you ever been critical of critical race theory?

The only way "critical race theory" can explain contemporary support for mass immigration is to define "white majority" to mean "minority of whites who benefit from mass immigration and useful idiots who don't, but are dumb enough to buy their propaganda". It's not very useful in illuminating the opposition to current levels of migration among the actual "white majority".

Yancey Ward said...

"You have praised critical race theory numerous times throughout your blog’s history. And you have praised its proponents. Have you ever been critical of critical race theory?"

Ms. Althouse is white- it served hers and other white professor's purposes to praise critical race theory. I don't know whether or not I should put a sarcasm tag on this because I don't know if I am using sarcasm here.

bagoh20 said...

"Althouse is counter majoritarian in outlook"

"Let them eat cake."

Wince said...

What New Hampshire needs is a slogan, downplaying any downsides about the climate.

“Living in New Hampshire is like living in Texas, just with harder nipples!”

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

heath care workers willing to work for low government wages. Single payer or medicare for all = FREE. Free free free! We all know quality goes way up when it's free.

Do you part, and work for free too, Nurse ratchet.

exhelodrvr1 said...

So brown people are better health care workers?

Henry said...

"How Do You Diversify a Whole State?"

Easy. You change your definitions.

Henry said...

I plan to move to New Hampshire once I retire. I'm part of the problem.

Anonymous said...

Danno: I didn't sense this was people trying to establish non-racist bonafides, but rather just pointing at the sheer hypocrisy (racism) of assuming colored people are needed to staff nursing homes and the like.

Pointing out somebody's racist hypocrisy is one thing. Doing nothing but impotently pointing out the usual suspects' racist hypocrisy for the millionth time, in response to anti-white agit-prop that gets uglier and more blatant by the day, certainly looks to me like prioritizing the establishment of one's non-racist bona fides over attending to another uglier and potentially dangerous development.

Is there anybody out there who still doesn't know that GoodThinkers are racist hypocrites?

jg said...

crops rotting in the fields / who will fund our retirement pyramid scheme?

jg said...

the price of servants these days. it's that drumpf's doing!

cubanbob said...

Чикелит said...
Althouse wrote: “I was steeped in Critical Race Theory, which — as I understood it — demands that you test everything by asking how it might really be about serving the interests of the white majority.”

You have praised critical race theory numerous times throughout your blog’s history. And you have praised its proponents. Have you ever been critical of critical race theory?"

I suspect that Critical Race Theory isn't being taught or used ay Beijing University. Perhaps someone can explain why its wrong for the majority to seek serving its own interests.

WK said...

How do you diversify a whole state? Forced resettlement.

langford peel said...

It looks like they have the drug abuse covered. If they just up the crime rate and loot a few Liquor stores and the odd CVS then they won't need any minorities.

Francisco D said...

"I was steeped in Critical Race Theory, which — as I understood it — demands that you test everything by asking how it might really be about serving the interests of the white majority."

In other words, White people are guilty until proven innocent.

Whatever happened to being a open minded l(classical) liberal?

Bill Peschel said...

I'll take a page from the conservative economist and recommend all these old people in New Hampshire move to places where low-paid minorities can care for them.

Sam L. said...

Clearly, the writer sees all caregivers as black, brown, or yellow. No whites in his/her view.

Jupiter said...

"I was steeped in Critical Race Theory, which — as I understood it — demands that you test everything by asking how it might really be about serving the interests of the white majority."

I must be a critical race theorist, because the first thing I ask about any policy is, does it serve my interests?

Guildofcannonballs said...

Boulder acts like 88% is too diverse, no matter what they say. Actions show it is a hateful, bigoted, prejudiced place. I stay away. Bad folks up in those parts. Bad bad folks.
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32037773/boulder-prides-itself-being-welcoming-all-but-its

Seeing Red said...

Filipino nurses.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Having a state with Canadian firearm homicide rates without Canadian firearm laws is embarrassing. It needs to change.

buwaya said...

Filipino nurses, and other service personnel, I agree.

Filipinos are an unusual case of a xenophilic society (in many if not all respects of course). Excellent at fitting in without a fuss. There is a reason why they are are extraordinarily successful as expat labor.

HT said...

Today I was thinking of longevity by state and wanted to see how we're doing in the District of Columbia. It's not that good, when you break it down by race. In DC white longevity is 13 years more than that of African Americans.

But in a few states, AA longevity exceeds white longevity. By a lot (though not 13 years). In New Hampshire, African American longevity exceeds that of whites by 6 years.

HT said...

(This is all according to wikipedia, I should add. Generally I don't favor getting data from there.)

ALP said...

I am extremely annoyed at the sloppiness of the headline. They are referring to "racial diversity". Wouldn't a nearly all white state have diversity in European origins, religion, and economic status?

HT said...

Yes, it would, but could a question be: does it matter? Among whites, do we make meaningful distinctions between people of Nordic ancestry and German? Does it matter anymore? Where I'm from, most everyone white had their roots in the British isles one way or the other, and back then to some extent it did matter, but does it matter anymore?

Ralph L said...

Britain has been importing from Former Colonies in the Caribbean and Asia for the NHS for decades. I read 40% of their nurses are foreign born, 30% of doctors.

Glenn Howes said...

Resident of New Hampshire here.

One of my (Chinese) wife’s friends is a Nigerian nurse who makes an excellent living organizing ad hoc nursing assignments for a group of other nurses. I get the feeling that nobody involved is working cheap. So maybe there is some diversity, but there isn’t the glut that would keep wages down.

Ralph L said...

In New Hampshire, African American longevity exceeds that of whites by 6 years.

It's the secret Black Burial ground, like the elephant one.

Jim at said...

Sooner or later all the drug abusers will be dead.

Not as long as municipalities - like Seattle - keep handing out free needles, providing safe places to shoot up and stand by on the ready call with Narcan for those who can't even do that right.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Isn't it interesting that therapists are seeing the reaction to Trump as a disorder?!

You don't have to study much history to know the terrifying effects that authoritarian tyrants leave throughout their populations - leading up to and especially during their reign. The devastating effects they leave will necessarily include the psychological. Just study Russia, Nazi Germany, it's not hard to find examples. The first casualty an authoritarian inflicts is on people's sense of stability and reliability, starting with their efforts to clamp down on speech and assaults on the truth - which Trump does every day.

An objective understanding of the truth is very important to most psychologically intact adults. But it's understandable if that's not the case for individuals with certain Cluster B personality disorders and other weak-minded people. And social psychology experiments show that a substantial minority percentage of every population will have ready-made authoritarians who are so attracted to ruthlessness and cruelty that they are ready to sacrifice everything that the rest of the population values simply to support a leader who will demonstrate dominance by abusing every norm and as many people as he wants to.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

The ability for Trump Cultists to stretch the truth is not hard to find. When Comey remarked on Trump's lack of any sense of humor, I mentioned that to your authoritarian commenters and, predictably, encountered resistance. So I asked them for a clip of Trump ever actually laughing... or even being comfortable enough with himself to just let down his guard an allow himself to laugh. They couldn't find any but like any self-deluded authoritarian butthole surely still persisted in their misapprehension.

Authoritarians rely on lies. They simply cannot govern through the truth. The emperor has no clothes - or in this case, a credible hairpiece.

chickelit said...

“And social psychology experiments show that a substantial minority percentage of every population will have ready-made authoritarians who are so attracted to ruthlessness and cruelty that they are ready to sacrifice everything that the rest of the population values simply to support a leader who will demonstrate dominance by abusing every norm and as many people as he wants to. “

Brilliant when applied to die-hard Hillary supporters. Against Trump, not so much.

PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...

My wife and I drove up from NYC to August Maine and back last month. Very nice time.

We stopped for dinner at a HomeStyle Buffet (Old Country Buffet to mid-westerners)in Portland around 5PM one day. It was pretty crowded. Depending on how you count us, there were only 2-3 tables with whites.

Everyone else, we divined from the women, was Muslim. The women were completely wrapped up. I remembered something about Somalis in Maine and looked in the book of knowledge. Somali population of Portland is about 5,000 or about 7.5% of total population.

Another 5,000 live in nearby Lewiston, making up about 13% of population.

2 things I found interesting:

The women I saw seem to be heavily tatooed. Not that I could see much, the only part that was uncovered was the face and hands. There was a young woman at a table next to us who seemed drop dead gorgeous. I think the Hijab may have accentuated rather than detracted from the beauty. At first I thought she was wearing lace gloves. It was actually a very intricate design of fine, dark blue lines completely covering her hands and wrists, maybe her whole are.

The other thing is how they came to be in Maine. There is probably a lot more to this but it appears that when the US govt agreed to resettle them, they sent them to live in Atlanta in housing projects. The Somalis said "Fuck this" and sent out scouts. The scouts found Portland and said "Pretty nice up here, lots of jobs and good housing, come on up."

This massive influx has caused some troubles and tensions. I guess this is to be expected when all of a sudden your population increases by 10% and the incomers are completely different. Overall it seems to have worked out more or less OK, the little I found. I was impressed by the idea that they had to stay in the shithole where the govt planted them, they realized that this is American and they could go find the streets paved with gold.

John Henry

PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...

Blogger President Pee-Pee Tape said...

You don't have to study much history to know the terrifying effects that authoritarian tyrants

Everything I see President Trump doing seems just the opposite of authoritarian to me.

Everything I see him doing makes him look like the most liberal, least fascist/progressive president ever.

Perhaps you can provide some specific examples of the authoritarianism that you see?

Thanks in advance.

John Henry

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Brilliant when applied to die-hard Hillary supporters. Against Trump, not so much.

Hillary grew up a Republican and definitely retains primarily Republican psychological impulses. But the word of a bozo chemist who finds expanded d-orbital bonds easier to understand than people is not to be trusted on the matter. Like everyone else, he just spouts his own politics. But unlike everyone else, his own ignorance doesn't disincentivized him against speaking about what he does not know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_personality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_brutality

chickelit said...

So I asked them for a clip of Trump ever actually laughing... or even being comfortable enough with himself to just let down his guard an allow himself to laugh. They couldn't find any but like any self-deluded authoritarian butthole surely still persisted in their misapprehension.

Here you go: Trump laughing. That took a whole 10 seconds.

Now bring me the broomstick of Hillary laughing without a cackle.

chickelit said...

But the word of a bozo chemist who finds expanded d-orbital bonds easier to understand than people is not to be trusted on the matter.

I have always found that asking whether those D's are real a worthwhile pursuit worthy of support.

PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...

Clumsy. Should read:

I was impressed by the idea that they didn't stay in the shithole where the govt planted them. They realized that this is American and they could go find the streets paved with gold.
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It occurs to me also that however bad projects in Atlanta might be, they are still better than anything in Somalia. Most people might say "Good enough" and settle for it. Apparently not the Somalis. Good for them.

John Henry

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

Nice try, Toothy.

Hillary was mugged by the left a long time ago. She's a true believer in big government and single payer - the holy grail of leftwing goals. High taxes, and "free" tax payer funded goodies are her main objectives.

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

(behind Clinton money grubbing, of course)

chickelit said...

@PPPT: d-orbitals have two nodes. One is not enough and three is too many.

PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...

Blogger Dickin'Bimbos@Home said...

Hillary was mugged by the left a long time ago. She's a true believer in big government and single payer - the holy grail of leftwing goals. High taxes, and "free" tax payer funded goodies are her main objectives.

Good description of a classic fascist. Or Fascist. Straight out of Mussolini's books.

"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"

John Henry

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Everything I see President Trump doing seems just the opposite of authoritarian to me.

Well, obviously. You're an ignorant and delusional authoritarian liar.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/business/media/trump-libel-laws.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/trump-take-the-guns-first-due-process-later.html
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-fifth-avenue-comment/

Ajit Pai's attempts to end net neutrality and wrest control over the internet away from the consumer and into the hands of the obsolescent telecoms are textbook fascism. The administration is also impairing the ability of individuals to sue universities for loan forgiveness after being victimized by fraud.

It goes on and on. They're even using the government to pay utilities to keep unprofitable coal plants as energy sources no matter how much the loss to the consumer and utility.

chickelit said...

@PPPT: Never forget that we have Trump because of Hillary. Try putting more effort into ridding us of her and maybe your wish will come true.

Etienne said...

Somali women are all circumcised.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

The only people who care about Hillary are the Trump cultists. Of course if they had an actual leader in the office they would talk about something else. But what's living in the past by two years when you still have to pay government funds to utilities to keep coal plants from being shut down?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/13/climate/coal-nuclear-bailout.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/trump-plan-bails-out-coal-and-nuclear-plants-for-national-security.html
https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2018/07/18/bailing_out_failing_companies_runs_counter_to_trumps_agenda_110314.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-01/trump-said-to-grant-lifeline-to-money-losing-coal-power-plants-jhv94ghl

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Try putting more effort into ridding us of her and maybe your wish will come true.

She's not running for anything and "her" faction of the DNC is losing more and more control with every primary election. Read the paper much?

chickelit said...

President Pee-Pee Tape said...The only people who care about Hillary are the Trump cultists.

Nope. She is the de facto candidate in 2020. I'm not saying she will be, but she is the leading candidate. She looks like moderation compared to the current DNC direction.

chickelit said...

She's not running for anything and "her" faction of the DNC is losing more and more control with every primary election.

Current DNC policy is/are open borders and unfair trade. You go run with that. Even Hillary was against the TPP.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Trump laughing. That took a whole 10 seconds.

Fake. Exaggerated. One-time. Rare. Done in the company of his Russian masters to demonstrate submission to them when revealing Israeli secrets on Syrian military maneuvers.

Have you ever made anyone laugh? Do you read facial expressions well? When the face is that strained, the artificially whitened teeth that heavily borne, the redness of his forced deflectionary fake laugh that loud due to that many blood vessels working overtime through his visage to conceal his actual emotions, it's fake. Fake beyond belief.

When people laugh they relax. They loosen up. They are not constrained, like his heavily reddened face. He looks like he's going to have an aneurysm in a facial blood vessel in those photos. That's not what laughter does.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Nope. She is the de facto candidate in 2020.

Bull fucking shit. She lost the 2008 primary and the 2016 presidential to a Nazi-lite. Past general losers do not become subsequent candidates. Now you're just spouting outright stupidity.

She looks like moderation compared to the current DNC direction.

You keep focusing on those looks, and phony bipartisanship. She is right-wing. A corporatist. A militant imperialist. She doesn't give a shit about any progressive issues. Ronald Reagan would be a Democrat today. Your party has so gerrymandered the country's districts and forced your primary candidates to run so far to the far-right, that you mistake yourself into thinking that the right-wing is the center. Poll the country on Bernie's positions vs. what Trump is actually doing. You do not know what support there is for the actual policies. You probably don't even know what the actual policy proposals really are.

Bruce Hayden said...

"Boulder acts like 88% is too diverse, no matter what they say. Actions show it is a hateful, bigoted, prejudiced place. I stay away. Bad folks up in those parts. Bad bad folks."
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32037773/boulder-prides-itself-being-welcoming-all-but-its

Boulder doesn't even have very many fat people. My kid and I noticed that when they came there for an REU in physics there 9 years ago. We got there the day of the Bolder-Boulder race. Entire families of four, with less fat on them than I have now, even after losing 30 lbs. Probably for both the parents together was less excess weight than when I was in college. But, then, my kid went back for a PhD there, and ran the race the last two years. And, of course, their research group was just like that - with all the guys with BMI well under 10% and the girls not far behind them. About the only color at their dissertation defense were one Chinese and one Iranian (Aryan). And a couple of the people on the committee were about as heavy as I, but one had an excuse - they had flown in from MN. Scary.

The other weird thing I noticed was the quantity of sports equipment (for very white sports, of course). 5 grad students in the house translated into roughly 10 bikes (down from the previous year because the girl with the 5 bikes graduated), and > 10 pair of skis. They didn't all have cars, but pretty much all had two bikes, and two or more pair of skis. Loved it when, at the defense, their advisor's spouse told me "oh, you didn't know that your kid crashed riding their bicycle in the snow last winter, and the bruises have finally faded, just in time for their defense?" Not sure if their mother knows yet - but they crashed again maybe a month ago, and they can't use snow as an excuse this time.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Current DNC policy is/are open borders and unfair trade. You go run with that. Even Hillary was against the TPP.

She was "against" the TPP after Bernie forced her to be. Ditto trade. His faction is beating hers in the primaries.

Borders are primarily an issue in either blue states that will already vote blue or red states that will go red. Not many swing states along the southern border. Sharpen up, sparky.

Immigration anxiety is a 2nd-choice option for trade laborers to be enticed by once the political elite class have made it clear that they will not raise their status or wages or market demand any other way. People don't go for xenophobia when they're well-compensated or their job protections guaranteed. But of course that won't do for Trump and his cultish and hateful followers.

Leland said...

Shorter synopsis: "We want minorities and immigrants to clean our bed pans, since the few kids we have are stoned out on opioids."

Assistant Village Idiot said...

NH Native here - going back generations, too.

Not one of the people quoted in the article is a NH native. That's true of about half the population at this point, so no surprise. Yet it bears mentioning that these are people who have come up here because of some great job, lifestyle, culture, or environment that they liked and then said "You're doing it all wrong up here. You should want things to look different when you walk down the street." And BTW, what is the expertise of a psychology professor in why and how a state needs to diversify its economy.

I'm also wondering if those are the people who are secretly thinking we need diversity because of the jobs white people won't do. NH is 94% white, and it was almost 99% when I was growing up. Guess what? We had landscapers and LNA's then! How can it be? And we still have mostly white landscapers and LNA's now! People might hope for better jobs, but I have never in my life heard anyone even hint that those jobs were beneath white people somehow. They aren't shameful* jobs. We approve of work up here. Or we used to. We get it that sometimes work is hard and sometimes jobs are scarce. Who the hell are these people who say otherwise?

I'd love to identify those folks and kick them out, frankly.

New Yorkers moved up and ruined Vermont. Massholes came up and ruined NH.

*Working for the government, now, sometimes we think that's a shameful job.

langford peel said...

Political polarization is the new hotness.

A recent post at Redstate illustrated the fact that
"in 2016, 70% of U.S. voters lived in "landslide precincts" (20%+ margin either way), up from 64% in 2012."


The Map is pretty clear. America is self segregating and the divisions are getting deeper by the hour. The blue state model is become more and more limited to big cities and the coast. Assimilation is a thing of the past. As was evidenced by the last election the electoral college will tell the tale. Unless it is repealed it will result in an even bigger win by the God Emperor in 2020. It will not matter how high the numbers that the Democrats rack up in California using illegal immigrant voters. The majority of counties are going red and will continue to do so. Despite the wailing and knashing of teeth by libtards and the media.

This also explains the attempt to infect so many out of the way areas with illegal immigrants to dilute the votes of real Americans. The thing is they tend to congregate with their own kind. Just like all human beings do. So they will group together and not spread out to affect more districts. Which leads to more majority counties. Which leads to more single party districts in Congress. Or single party states like California. How is that working out for them?

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

I was given fentanyl and hydrocodone, yes, by medical professionals for an actual medical emergency, a few weeks ago. I suppose I'll be robbing gas stations for heroin money soon.

langford peel said...

Hey did you get a blood transfusion?

If you have a sudden urge to loot the CVS then we know what they did.

Good luck buddy. Eat a baloney sandwich on white bread with mayo.

It works like garlic for a vampire.

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

Why won't Hillary go away? Toothy?

She's everywhere.. She's still big in the headlines. There's talk of her running again.

Why won't the left help her go away?

Who killed Seth Rich?

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

No blood transfusion for me. Maybe next time. I haven't felt the need to loot a CVS, but I haven't ruled it out.

Thanks for the advice, but I never eat baloney or white bread, and not much mayo, either. Sounds ghetto.

I do LOVE garlic.

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...


Hillary is leftwing fascist. Leftists don't understand the meaning of fascism.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Why won't Hillary go away? Toothy?

She's everywhere.. She's still big in the headlines. There's talk of her running again.


Not in any headlines I read. But then, I read regular news, not the right-wing bullshit that you undoubtedly feed your empty head with. FOX News?

Yes, the right-wing has a very active interest in pretending that she's actually out there doing things politically that turn her back into the political adversary/villain that your silly faction can't survive without.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

There's talk of...

Lol. What's this, like when your Twitler says, "people are saying things... I'm hearing that...."

Rumor-mongering and talebearing as a form of political investigation. Only among the right-wing turds.

I bet you haven't even spoken to anyone who didn't vote or a Republican for years.

Go ahead and take Hillary. She's yours. Especially given the number of professional Republicans that recognized one of their own and crossed-over to vote for her.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Why won't Hillary go away?

Um, because she's alive and committed no crime that even your Authoritarian-in-Chief can indict her for?

Pretty amazing how rule of law works, eh? A citizen remaining free to do what they want - no matter how much you hate them politically. Imagine that.

Well, you could imagine that if you weren't a fascist.

Darkisland said...

So Squeamish,

Now you are saying Crocked Hillary is NOT a fascist?

You're very hatd to keep up with.

John Henry

gilbar said...

someone said: The women I saw seem to be heavily tatooed.
i doubt they were permanent, most likely Henna stains, white chicks in Ames do that to show that they're COOL! Nothing says COOL! like cultural appropriation

chickelit said...

Immigration anxiety is a 2nd-choice option for trade laborers to be enticed by once the political elite class have made it clear that they will not raise their status or wages or market demand any other way.

Is English your first language? That sentence is not up to your usual standards. What is a "trade laborer"?

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Can someone get the Redneck Translator and explain what "Crocked" means?

Hillary Clinton is a fascist? I thought the person I was talking to said she was a criminal, right-wing or politically relevant.

So hard to keep up with the right-wing group-thinkers when they keep trying to complete each other's sentences.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Someone who labors in the trades. Skilled trades. Hard to keep coming up with enough language to describe a political constituency that even the person they voted for doesn't care about.

buwaya said...

Henna is big.
Or was, not that long ago. SF High School girls had them.
Went with the black&white Palestinian scarfs, or keffiyehs, that were cool at the time.

I think all that is passe now.

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Guildofcannonballs said...
Boulder acts like 88% is too diverse, no matter what they say. Actions show it is a hateful, bigoted, prejudiced place. I stay away. Bad folks up in those parts. Bad bad folks.


You mean the author who wrote "a town with a crushingly white majority population"?

"Crushingly white."

Kemba Douglas stands outside The Lazy Dog Sports Bar & Grill on Boulder's Pearl Street Mall on July 9. Douglas filed a discrimination complaint with Colorado's Civil Rights Division after she says a hostess at the Lazy Dog sat her in the back of the restaurant, following a prolonged wait, and ignored a request for better seating, despite many open tables. Steve Ross, the Lazy Dog's owner, characterized the incident as a misunderstanding."

Oh the horror and Jeebus, what a supercilious little remora bitch.

"Many open tables": Reservations: Reservations Accepted, Reservations Recommended

Chart o' Horror shows that "racial complaints" are increasing at the same rate as non-racial complaints.

"Gilmore says being a black businessman in Boulder means waking a fine line, being black enough to avoid accusations of whitewashing from black customers,"

Gosh darn those completely non-racist black customers.

One awful thing about Boulder is the traffic, which really is racist.

Paco Wové said...

"I think all that is passe now."

Fads tend to travel inwards, slowly, from the coasts to the heartland. The process can take a decade or more.

If you're ever in Iowa/southern MN., check out a Fareway grocery store. It's like a time machine back to the 1960's.

Seeing Red said...

Gosh darn those completely non-racist black customers.


He complained he had to switch dialects.

Roger Sweeny said...

Wait! I thought with computers there weren't going to be jobs for anyone soon.

Not Sure said...

The level of ignorance of both history and economics on display in this story is truly staggering.

NH has long been populated by immigrants. In the mid-19th century the huge textile mills in Manchester responded to the post-Civil War labor shortage by importing young British women known for their skill in the production of gingham. Because suitable living conditions for these young women were lacking, special housing was provided for them women by the corporation that owned the mills. And the fact that many of them were brought in at the same time eliminated the problem of who they would feel culturally comfortable with. Other factories throughout the state have relied heavily on French-Canadian immigrants, who greatly enhanced the vibrancy of the local cuisine through their diverse culture.

These immigrants somehow found their way to these jobs without the assistance of any aspiring central planners in the state government--one might say it was as if they were led there by an invisible hand. Or the not-so-invisible recruitment efforts of the owners of the mills and factories.

wildswan said...

This revives my America Without Borders plan. Senior citizens can swap places with Mexicans, Central Americans, South Americans. One American senior citizen registers to live in Mexico or Ecuador or wherever and one citizen of that country can live and work in America. Each of you can own property, drive etc. but not vote. ICE keeps the numbers equal. So you don't stay in NH with steadily worsening arthritis; you go to the sunny south where living is cheaper. And they don't stay in deepening poverty; they go where there are jobs. For awhile there's going to be steady increase in the number of senior citizens so the open borders visas could be extended for as long as people want.

PS In New Hampshire blacks had voting rights before the Catholics did

rehajm said...

Who are these fucking bigots you just have to hire who are so afraid of people not like them?

PuertoRicoSpaceport.com said...

Blogger President Pee-Pee Tape said...

Can someone get the Redneck Translator and explain what "Crocked" means?

C'mon, Squeamish. You are not really that uneducated and ignorant, are you? No need for a redneck dictionary. Merriam-Webster does just fine:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crocked

It defines crocked with one word "Drunk"

It gives the example, "she found that after only three drinks she would be completely crocked"

I usually call her "Crooked Hillary" but a few weeks ago my spell check corrected it (or I typoed it) as "Crocked". Given her well known love of the tipple, I figured it works just as well and am now using both.

You probably want links:

Clinton: I relied on prayer, yoga and 'my fair share of Chardonnay' after 'devastating' 2016 loss

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/hillary-clinton-book-event/index.html



"But you know what, I'm doing OK," she said, explaining that she has been coping by spending time with her family, walking in the woods, and organizing her closets.

"I won't lie, chardonnay helped a little too," she added

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/05/26/hillary-on-getting-through-election-loss-chardonnay-helped-n2332188



Hillary Clinton had been drinking vodka the morning of a New Jersey campaign rally and was “visibly intoxicated,” a law enforcement source told True Pundit.

“She’d been hitting it (alcohol) early,” one member of Clinton’s Secret Service security detail told True Pundit.

Amazingly, the source acknowledged it wasn’t the first time Clinton enjoyed multiple cocktails prior to taking the stage at a campaign rally, fundraiser, or television appearance.

“It’s happened before but not that early in the day,” the source said.

https://truepundit.com/secret-service-security-detail-hillary-clinton-was-drunk-the-morning-of-campaign-rally/

You can find plenty more. I know you don't like our president but there is at least one thing even you can't accuse him of. He is not a lush.

Hillary Clinton is a fascist? I thought the person I was talking to said she was a criminal, right-wing or politically relevant.

I don't know if that was me you were addressing but:

Yes, Crooked/Crocked Hillary is a fascist. She has always claimed to be a progressive but even you have never tried to explain any ideological difference between Mussolini's Fascism and American progressivism.

Read Mussolini's Doctrine of Fascism to learn what Fascism was/is. Free copy here http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm

Better yet, buy a copy through Ann's portal and help carry your weight around here.

Criminal? I think what I have said is probably criminal. I may have said that she is criminal from time to time but don't specifically remember. I've definitely said that she is as crooked as a corkscrew. I'll be happy to explain if you like.

Right wing? Not me. I've always said she was a progressive/fascist. Decidedly un-right wing.

Politically relevant? I still say yes. She will never hold elective office again. She may run for president in 20. Barring another stroke or the like I'll be surprised if she doesn't. Nobody else will get serious about running until she announces one way or the other. Nobody will donate significant money until she announces one way or another. So yes, still very much politically relevant, although mostly as a negative force at this point, sucking oxygen from other dems.


John Henry

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I don't know if that was me you were addressing -

When in doubt, assume it's not.

Four presidents ran after losing previously: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Richard Nixon.

I know Republicans don't understand the concept of the present tense or successful precedents (since they're so busy trying to repeat failures) but it doesn't look like that is a track record that will be repeated any time soon.

Even if you count multiple losers, this only happened twice after the end of the 19th century: Adlai Stevenson and Thomas Dewey.

Republicans show their paranoia and penchant for the bizarre when they obsess about the social irrelevancy that is Hillary Clinton as if she were running again. She has nothing to address within the current climate and any DNC lackeys of hers lose power with every primary. No one who's not in the tank for Trump is interested in seeing as proven a born loser as she is continuing to lose on their behalf to the even bigger joke of a loser known as Donald Trump.

Right-wingers obsess over her and their fear of her simply because she makes them feel their wrinkled old white nut sacks tighten up a notch, and that toxic male anxiety response is the most sexual feeling most of them get to experience in any given year of their tired old lives.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Republicans really are quite remarkable. A Democratic Socialist unseats the congressional leadership heir apparent in the Bronx, in NYC, where the Democratic machine is stronger than anywhere else, and they think the left is still too dumb to finally read the tea leaves. Maybe the right was too dumb to misread the implications of Eric Cantor's unseating, but the left is not as stupid as the right. The woman who couldn't (and still can't) figure out how (or even why) to send an economic message that would actually resonate in four swing states with heavy traditional Democratic constituency appeals in labor and manufacturing that she lost to the lying bozo Trump will not be running again. For that to happen the left would have to be dumber than the right, and they aren't. Finally the progressives will be taking over and taking the country back to its powerful industrial, FDR-led roots. I think right-wingers read this and have no choice but to agree and even silently consent. Deep down they know that they and their disastrous, toxic brew of Reagonomics and social traditionalism are a spent force. Outsourcing, downsizing and de-industrialization began with their hero Reagan in the first place. The prescription has failed for quite some time in any form other than as a temporary pep pill elixir. It's like prescribing alcohol for depression. It stops working sooner than you think. The country caught on long ago, no matter how much power the Republicans have kept the rest of the country from obtaining. And Trump wouldn't have even won if he'd not pretended to notice all this during his own campaign.

FullMoon said...

President Trump has recordings, at least a dozen, of reporters discussing him, and their reporting/opinion of him, with Michael Cohen.

Apparently Michael Cohen recorded dozens of interviews with journalists about candidate Donald Trump, and President-elect Donald Trump, and President Donald Trump. Michael Cohen hated the Trump campaign; he made his opinion of the campaign abundantly clear. The media hate anything Trump etc. Now imagine what’s on those recordings…. The journalists did not know they were being recorded.

“Dozens” of recordings. With Michael Cohen and journalists discussing the campaign, president-elect, and President Trump; and because the subject of those recordings was his client, Donald Trump, the recordings of the journalists were turned over to Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s lawyer.

Here’s the interview. The bombshell is quietly placed (revealed) at around
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/07/29/giuliani-president-trump-has-recordings-of-dozens-of-journalists-discussing-him-with-michael-cohen/#more-152319

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

One of the great ironies of Hillary’s campaign is that the email/private server issue that bedeviled her whole campaign was known to everyone through the Democratic primaries. Every voter who pulled the lever for her knew she might be facing serious legal troubles down the road. The FBI investigation of Clinton started in JULY of 2015 and it was widely believed to be serious. After all, there are people who have gone to jail for being less careless with classified information than Hillary Clinton. In fact, the general assumption most Republicans (myself included) make is that if Hillary hadn't been treated as “above the law” by James Comey, she’d be in jail today for what she did. So, yes, she deserved those “lock her up” chants and James Comey didn’t hurt her campaign so much as gave her a huge break. After all, it’s hard to show up at campaign rallies if you’re sitting in prison. "

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

"C\since Hillary lies like a lying liar who just invented a lying machine for an Olympic lie-off,.."
even peepee tape knows she is a liar, but lying for the greater good on the left, with classified info on private server while heed of the state dept (imagine any R doing such a thing?) or for the Clinton's personal pocket book is all A-OK! Not illegal at all!

HT said...

Hillary was the real republican in the race way back in 2016. She was for TPP before she was against it.

Skipping over the 'dialogue' choking this particular entry. Ugh. Is this what calling civility bullshit begets?

Be said...

NH and ME will never be anything but client states of MA. For tourism largely, educational or otherise.

Any argument otherwise stinks of Pathetic, not to mention Ignorant, like most secession apologies.

n.n said...

They don't need diversity or color judgments, which is a progressive principle by common standards. They need unPlanned Parenthood to provide a social safety net for grandparents, parents, and the community through charitable giving and service.

daskol said...

President Pee-Pee Tape said...
Republicans really are quite remarkable...


that's a really interesting post, because much of what you're suggesting a progressive/left government would do is already being done because better trade deals, ending implicit tariffs, strengthening domestic heavier industries, etc. are all key aspects of Trump's agenda. I'm also pleased to see the powerful Dem machine take a big hit with Crowley losing to Ocasio Cortez, but a fresh-faced 28 yo beating a hack machine politico isn't exactly a clear win for any particular ideological platform. abandon for a moment the labels "GOP" and "Democrat," right and left, and pay closer attention to how people are behaving, what this administration is enacting in terms of legislation, where it's headed directionally in terms of bilateral and multilateral foreign relations. I think PPPT, if you leave aside those labels and forget about the personalities involved, you might find yourself highly supportive of most of the Trump administration's initiatives. I don't believe that's an accident, either. Trump is not a partisan and not ideological, and all too happy to pick up a good notion wherever it may have originated in the political and ideological landscape.

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

If the insane left need to turn hillary into a republican in order to finally throw her over-board - whatevs.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Four presidents ran after losing previously: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Richard Nixon.

Not Grover Cleveland?

mikee said...

The aged sick and unemployable population had better hope no Democrat holds the Presidency until robots get a lot better at working with humans, and less expensive, because the only real alternative is a euthanasia mandate. Dems already own killing the unborn, so it is a very, very small step to killing the aged or chronically ill.

mikee said...

D-B, Hillary wasn't careless with classified info. She purposefully used a private server to avoid FOIA requests for her communications, and deleted tens of thousands of them when discovered, and destroyed phones and computers to insure a lack of accountability.

She wasn't careless, she was a conspiring criminal obstructing justice from the start.