May 9, 2018

"What North Koreans Think of America."



This is an excellent video, full of amazing detail (such as that North Koreans don't understand what the image of an American flag is). The YouTube channel is Asian Boss, which I looked up. I found this article from last summer in Tokyo Weekender, "How Asian Boss Is Exploding Cultural Stereotypes":
Using the street interview style, Asian Boss YouTube channel founders Kei Ibaraki and Stephen Park quiz people on how they feel about topics as varied as North Korean defectors and Japan’s death-from-overwork syndrome...

While recently the Asian Boss duo has amassed an enormous number of hits for their series on North Korean defectors, one of the subtler gems has been understanding public facades in Japanese society, which in turn perpetuate such negative cycles like sexism and homophobia. Polite, but gutsy, Ibaraki makes asking “why” an engaging spectacle when handed replies either too presumptive or general. Critical thinking is his core value. If somebody says something, why is it that they believe it to be so? “I mean, look, here’s the thing: where do stereotypes come from? They come from not knowing about something. So by getting people to talk you move towards building a greater understanding, you become inclusive.”

31 comments:

rhhardin said...

Big noses? They're thinking of American Indians.

Hey wampum-nose.

Narayanan said...

?Similar to what Palestine kids learn about Israel?

Wince said...

What's astounding to me from the start is how much the propaganda these North Koreans were told to believe about America by the regime is amazingly similar to the propaganda that most American have been conditioned to believe about Trump by the MSM.

Starting with mocking Trump's physical appearance to exaggerated claims about his imminent demise at the hand of Mueller.

Narayanan said...

And in Iran.

Fandor said...

Huh? Critical thinking? What a concept! Maybe we should encourage it in colleges and universities.

Hagar said...

Or Israeli kids about Palestinians?

Birkel said...

One wonders what the three Americans of Korean heritage think of Trump as they fly back to America with SoS Pompeo.

More than likely John Kerry gets credit.
Ha!

whitney said...

Fascinating

virgil xenophon said...

Stereotypes? Critical thinking? All anyone need do is read S.I. Hayakwa's 1941 Book-of-the-Month club
selection Language in Action (which still sits on my shelves) No need for an expensive college education to prepare one's self in that area...one book..

FIDO said...

Drones and iPhones with lots of S Korean shows in it.

Drop them randomly where teens gather. Make them cheesy romances.

Have a few News clips for important events from the S Korean angle.

Cracking the shell isn't that hard. It is inuring the people to what is necessary to change things in their nation, because it will be a painful process.

Sebastian said...

"one of the subtler gems has been understanding public facades in Japanese society, which in turn perpetuate such negative cycles like sexism and homophobia. Polite, but gutsy, Ibaraki makes asking “why” an engaging spectacle."

So they ask people why they think men having anal sex with men is or is not a good idea?

Bob Boyd said...

That is a fascinating video, especially the last part about what they think will happen, will there be a war, what will Trump do, what will Kim do, etc.
The video is one year old. I wonder what these guys would say now.

mezzrow said...

Fascinating. Thanks. Too bad Trump is such a lousy negotiator, eh?

Unknown said...

Spent some time in Japan. and points west and south with enough time to walk around and talk to folks in the streets, laborers little food kiosks, and those using the old ways “for us”, including Armstrong, up oh so early to pull their r carts, into the cities, remove the night soil in others, I had the time to see the world thru their eyes. A delightful mix of peoples, with differing opinions and outlooks. One day I looked out my window in Shinjuku and saw teams pruning trees all the way back to the roots, I asked "what's going on? looked at me in surprise, as if "don't you do this in the U.S”? So, we don't have to sweep up the leaves, you idjut”. exhaling through clouds of smoke I couldn't see through". Different but not, across most of Asia, same problems, different approaches, different solutions, interested in learning about (the great US. if you didn’t talk from the heavens great). Granted I was offended at times, but if they were not, hard to do without hinting I was, I thought "none of my business. “considering each syllable of prejudice. Which is what hit me about T. He takes people, nations, problems as they are.by training or effort or naturally, something a transactional does, else there's no deal that's win-win, using words. incentives, and as a last resort threats, implied or real, and when pressed coercion or force. Or just sitting on his hands. He reminds me of a great basketball coach, team shares all, benches themselves, “I’m outmatched at point guard, coach says I know, Tim go get ‘em, or please find your replacement. Wouldn’t have hired you if I didn’t think you were up to the job, or I could do your job, so go get me someone who can. Good luck and fortune to you and yours”. Lots of rotation in MBO orgs at the top. Part of its magic, and why establishment and career politicians don’t understand why they continue to lose or compete.

FIDO said...

Though I am also tempted to do what the Allies did in Norway: drop a bunch of little parachutes with single shot zip guns and single sticks of dynamite.

Sure, the majority will be confiscated but not all...

Power, after all, comes from the end of a gun. I was told that by a famous Leftist.

Magson said...

I've watched some Asian Boss from time to time over the years. I was especially intrigued by his video of what South Koreans think of the US and how the most common theme there was "It's a really racist place with lots of gun crime -- I'd be afraid someone would shoot me becuz I'm Asian."

Gotta love how our media portray us....

Titus said...

I have watched many Asian Boss episodes. Love to hear what peeps around the globe think of us. The thing is they always talk about the rednecks, racist, and red state grossies in the U.S., nothing about the fab coasties. Although, some of them want to live in NYC-natch.

tits.

Michael K said...

"Gotta love how our media portray us...."

All the world gets its ideas from the media and movies.

Anonymous said...

“I mean, look, here’s the thing: where do stereotypes come from? They come from not knowing about something."

No, they don't. There is propaganda that uses the crudest simplification of stereotypes to manipulate its targets (in addition to complete falsehoods that have little to do with any extant stereotypes). But stereotypes in themselves don't come from "not knowing about something".

If something like "Asian Boss" manages to be interesting, it isn't because it's "exploding cultural stereotypes". The linked article didn't report any such explosions.

Hagar said...

Though I am also tempted to do what the Allies did in Norway: drop a bunch of little parachutes with single shot zip guns and single sticks of dynamite.

Never heard of that one.

Drago said...

rhhardin: "Big noses? They're thinking of American Indians."

Ouch.

Elizabeth Warren hardest hit.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

One of the North Koreans who visited America said Americans don't judge others by how they are dressed. He clearly never met Titus.

buwaya said...

The US MSM hasn't done the country any favors as far as international PR since the early 60's. Since then its as if much of it was managed as a branch of the KGB.

A very great deal of anti-Americanism is made in the USA.

Danno said...

Blogger exiledonmainstreet said...One of the North Koreans who visited America said Americans don't judge others by how they are dressed. He clearly never met Titus.

You mean tight-ass the fabulous coastie, right?

Lance said...

"What's your perception of America now that you're in South Korea?"

"They seem to have a lot of gun violence. And the thing that scares me the most is the racial conflict between black and white people...I feel like I could get caught in between and face racism as well because I'm Asian."


Way to go liberal Hollywood.

eric said...

The lesson I took from this video.

Media propaganda works.

It worked in North Korea when they taught them to believe America was evil.

It's still working because they are afraid they'll be shot in a mass shooting in America and that Trump is as unstable as Kim.

Obviously media manipulation works.

I also think the best way to defeat North Korea would be to carpet bomb them constantly with the truth. Drop tons and tons and tons of K-pop videos, American movies, documentaries showing the truth of the Korea's, Korean films, TV shows, etc. Just drop them everywhere. Vhs, DVD, whatever is most likely to work. Drop them over cities and farms and everywhere.

Quaestor said...

eric wrote: I also think the best way to defeat North Korea would be to carpet bomb them constantly with the truth.

Post-war studies of Allied propaganda efforts in WWII showed a singular lack of effectiveness. There were all kinds of schemes and projects aimed at undermining Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan from within, and none of them pay dividends equal to the costs and dangers of implementing them. For example, the British tried a black propaganda operation called Soldatensender Calais, which purported to be an official radio station operated by the Wehrmacht. The on-air personalities were supposedly typical German soldiers who broadcasted news and music to the troops in the field much like our own Armed Forces Radio of the period. Gradually the "German" broadcasters implanted the notion that they were disgruntled and indifferent to the Nazis and were instead gravely concerned for the future of Germany and consumed with contempt for Party leaders like Goering and Goebbels. They never criticised Hitler directly. The purpose was to encourage defeatism and possibly a mutiny of the field army against Hitler and his High Command. In actual fact, it never came close to producing its desired effect. The Germans didn't try to jam the broadcasts because their troops liked the music offered and considered the "news" and commentary to be excellent comedy. Psychologically the propaganda was beneficial to German morale in that it provided a needed catharsis against whatever resentments they might have harbored, and inspired greater hatred of an enemy that thought the German soldier to be so cowardly and malleable. In short is was Tokyo Rose in reverse and just as effective as that famous black propagandist's efforts.

Later in the war, the US tried leaflet bombing over Japan. Often the leaflets warned of an impending attack against the city where the leaflets fell. The purpose was twofold. Firstly, it was hoped the leaflets would convince civilians to flee the city, thus saving lives and further disrupting war production there. More importantly, the leaflets were intended to demonstrate to the populace the overwhelming air superiority of the USAAF — if the Americans said they would bomb Yokohama tomorrow it would happen as predicted, thus implying the Emperor's impotence to prevent the attack. The propagandists hoped to undermine civilian morale and their confidence in the Emperor's promises of victory. It didn't work. When the end finally came the vast majority of the Japanese populace was profoundly shocked that the war "developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage". The sad fact is closed totalitarian societies are so conditioned to hate the outsider that truth in the form of material like DVDs, books, magazines — anything secondhand — is counterproductive. People conditioned as the North Koreans have been believe only their own eyes. They must see the truth firsthand, else it will be greeted with contempt and inspire even greater hatred. What Eric suggests actually does Kim's work for him.

Quaestor said...

typo correction: In short, it was Tokyo Rose in reverse and just as effective as that famous black propagandist's efforts.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

You mean tight-ass the fabulous coastie, right?

5/9/18, 10:18 AM

I was thinking of the provincial Peter Pan who has never gotten over his small town awe of the Big City.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter what North Korea thinks of us. It doesn't matter what Iran thinks of us. That is feminine thinking. It's been along time since American men acted unapologetically. I think Buwaya knows what I mean. China? Russia? We are past that now. American men will...or won't.

Zach said...

He's a very good interviewer. He gets his subjects going, and only breaks in to introduce a new topic or to get them to expound on an interesting detail.