March 11, 2018

"Crying is an excellent way of bringing balance and health to your mind and body. Keep crying."

Tweets Yoko Ono.

Among the responses:



I think that's satire. Please don't destroy my feeling of hope in this world by having that not be satire. I will cry.

I click through to The Socialist Party/@OfficialSPGB — Socialist Party of Great Britain — and it's got the blue check mark of a "verified account." That means they're dead serious, right?

The Socialist Party of Great Britain has been around since 1904, Wikipedia says, offering this photograph of the they looked at their first conference, in 1905:



"Unlike other left groups, the SPGB did not see fascism as a special threat to the working class. Rather than formulating it as the last refuge of capitalism organising to defend itself against the working class, the party’s writers and speakers tended to view it as a particular type of reform movement. The two specific characteristics identified, though, were that it tended to be a form of national consolidation – unifying fragment nations such as Germany, Italy and Spain – and that it tended to have the mass support of the working class. The party's theory made the working class the politically decisive class: thus if the working class supported fascism then fascism would prevail. Answers to letters in the Socialist Standard in the 1930s repeatedly made this point. Early writers noted what Benito Mussolini was able to do with the power of the state on his side, a part of a vindication of the SPGB's approach of the workers seizing control of the state. The SPGB, hence, declined to join anti-fascist fronts or to make a particular issue of anti-fascism, arguing that the pro-socialist case was the necessary remedy for fascism."

Keep crying! It's an excellent way of bringing balance and health to your mind and body.

58 comments:

Conservachusetts said...

They were spot on about Fascism, just another variant of the Socialist sickness.

Tcdq1293 said...

Dovetail with your earlier post: it's great that the stupid thing I did this morning
was getting a piece of jalapeno innards in my eye.

BTW. What happened to Laslo?

Kevin said...

BTW. What happened to Laslo?

The Germans have a name for Laslo.

Ann Althouse said...

Laslo wasn't even the first screen name for that commenter.

If you think of Laslo because you look at a post and think this is Laslo material, you're half way to writing the material you want to read. You're seeing the opportunity and imagining the comment. The idea of writing like that and the raw material to riff on is already aswirl in your head.

To vary a famous quote: If you want to read a comment, write a comment.

Kevin said...

If you want to read a comment, write a comment.

Let a thousand Laslos bloom!

Kevin said...

Let's be clear, it's not Laslo per se but the girl with the pony tail they want back.

Swish.

rhhardin said...

If it's not haiku, it's not sincere.

They say not to cry
I say let go like monsoons,
Thy thirsty tear duct.

Josephe Buchanan

Kevin said...

Trump lies all the time
Cries Chuck in every comment
Bringing balance to his life.

Hagar said...

Now see what you have done! You made Yoko cry, you beast!

Phil 314 said...

Yoko Ono vs a British Socialists.

Every story needs a hero...I'm still waiting

Tcdq1293 said...

I'm not Laslo.

Bob Boyd said...

"Yoko Ono vs a British Socialists."

There's a bustle in the hedgerow

Ann Althouse said...

"Let's be clear, it's not Laslo per se but the girl with the pony tail they want back."

Maybe that's why he withdrew into a different persona. He got bored with that. I, personally, got tired on the visual speedbump "ponytail swish." But it stuck in your mind. Maybe you feel you want more because you know you're not getting any more.

Kevin said...

Laslo’s visual speed bump was brilliant writing. It made you stop to consider what went just before.

I’m glad the Germans have a name for that and welcome his return to commenting.

Like everything in life, the girl with the ponytail could only be real if she were fleeting.

Rusty said...

Kevin
Good haiku!

Rusty said...

"BTW. What happened to laslo?"
Didn't Rick finally get them their 'letters of transit' so he and whatshername could come to America?

Darkisland said...

I hung out on the spgb yahoo group for a while some years back.

Very entertaining. Somewhat weird even for socialists which was what made it fun.

John Henry

Rory said...

Yoko's husband gave an interview to Playboy in which he expressed no moral conflict between calling himself a socialist and sitting on $150 million. It might still be a sore spot for some socialists.

jaydub said...

From the photo it would appear that socialists are a fun loving group.

Ralph L said...

The six word guy was very entertaining and concise.

You would cry too if Yoko happened to you.

H said...

It is hard (impossible) to formulate in a few sentences the core of a "fascist economics". (See Wikipedia on fascist economics and you'll get an idea of the differences of opinion on this subject.) But Mussolini did embrace the economic idea of "corporatism" in which government, labor, and corporations worked together to formulate government-programs/policies that would influence the economy. So the "active government involvement" part would be interesting to socialists. If you believed that this kind of interaction could result in labor co-opting corporate power with state power allies, then corporatism could be quite appealing to you as a socialist. If on the other hand, you believe that labor and capital are locked in a to-the-death struggle, this kind of cooperation between unions and corporations you would like see corporatism as a way of postponing the inevitable victorious struggle.

Danno said...

Where's the Roy Orbison music video?

gilbar said...

" Maybe you feel you want more because you know you're not getting any more. "

I've always felt that Chick-filA has the best marketing scheme in the world; nothing makes you Want Chick-filA, like driving by and seeing that it is Sunday and realizing that nothing short of a natural disaster will make those sandwiches appear.

That said; I miss Ponytail Girl

Ann Althouse said...

"Laslo’s visual speed bump was brilliant writing. It made you stop to consider what went just before."

But at some point, you see the speed bumps ahead and — as with real speed bumps — you go some other way. I thought it was interesting that you couldn't not read the "swish" line. I knew it was there and I tried to skip over it, but it's so quickly read that it's even more effort to jump over it. That led to my skipping the whole comment when I saw that it used that device.

You may have had a different experience. I don't like to be nudged to stop and consider. I stop and consider when I want. A reader is always free to read something else, and when I'm reading within blog posts and comments, I'm skipping and jumping a lot. A writer pulling on me with a hey, don't leave triggers my flight mode.

Kevin said...

“A writer pulling on me with a hey, don't leave triggers my flight mode.”

Nice little speed bump there. Made me slow down and absorb your key point.

Bill Peschel said...

Damn those socialists. Killing and torturing millions of people and destroying national economies was bad enough. Now they've got me defending Yoko!

the 4chan Guy who reads Althouse said...

"If you think of Laslo because you look at a post and think this is Laslo material, you're half way to writing the material you want to read. You're seeing the opportunity and imagining the comment. The idea of writing like that and the raw material to riff on is already aswirl in your head."

Actually you are more than half way; maybe seven-eighths.

Once you identify the imagined comment you simply plug the raw material into the Comment Generator, select the Laslo Algorithm, press the Riff Button on the upper left of your screen, and the comment pops out.

Seven-eighths; the last eighth is pushing the Riff Button, obviously.

Seven-eights plus one-eighth = one comment.

As simple as operating a Betamax.

The Germans have a word for this.

IgnatzEsq said...

BTW. what happened to Laslo?

Also, what happened to Sir Archy and Blogging Cockroach?

IgnatzEsq said...

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/11/sir-archy-archy-and-blogging-cockroach.html

(For people who may not remember commenters from a decade ago. And while I do remember them, I can't remember my neighbor's name, so my memory is strangely selective.)

Robert Cook said...

I typically skipped Laslo's comments. Aggressive whimsy becomes boring almost immediately.

FullMoon said...

BTW. what happened to Laslo?
Hangin' out with Harvey Kietel, last I heard.

the 4chan Guy who reads Althouse said...

"Aggressive whimsy becomes boring almost immediately."

I thought communists would prefer their whimsy aggressive.

It is a little-known fact that Stalin was occasionally whimsical, but it was an aggressive whimsy.

Sure, people will scoff at that statement.

But here is my proof:

"The Pope! How many divisions has he got?"

I rest my case.

The Germans have a word for this.

Ralph L said...

JustOneMinute has lost at least 4 of their best commenters to death. Wonder what Althouse did with or to hers?

Krumhorn said...

I typically did NOT skip Laslo’s comments. His whimsy almost immediately illuminated the context of most situations. He said what I most often thought, but could not quite burp up. Take Amber the Black-Out Possibly Raped College Girl. Or Girl at Starbucks That Hates You. Or New Antifa Guy. Or (most trenchant) Sketchy Guy Who Works at the Adult Bookstore, Or most applicable to Robert Cook, The Slightly-Less-Than-Average-Intelligence Althouse Reader. Or The Clean College Chick With The Hot Nose Ring and Herpes.

I remember when she got the herpes. I seldom have laughed so hard at written prose.

Sketchy Guy would have had amazing insights into the sexless doctor.

And when nothing else will explain it....there’s always anal sex. The Ruthless Umlaut was a Vorläufer

Laslo’s prior incarnation as Betamax3000 was great stuff, but Laslo Spatula was very consistently brilliant, and I consistently laughed out loud. Call me a fan boy.

-Krumhorn

Pugsley the Pug said...

John Lennon, in the Playboy Interview that came out about the time he was murdered, was still espousing Socialist talking points. Yet, in the same interview, he was so proud of Yoko for having sold a dairy cow for $750,000 (remember, that was in 1980 dollars, 38 years ago, not at the current value. So he and Yoko were just like any other liberal who lived by the creed “Do as I say, not as I do.”

Krumhorn said...

The swish line wasn’t a speed bump. The Italians have a word for it

It was Ostinato

- Krumhorn

tcrosse said...

Aggressive whimsy becomes boring almost immediately.

Cook usually doesn't take that long.

Krumhorn said...

Once you identify the imagined comment you simply plug the raw material into the Comment Generator, select the Laslo Algorithm, press the Riff Button on the upper left of your screen, and the comment pops out.

Seven-eighths; the last eighth is pushing the Riff Button, obviously.


Not even close. Edison allocated 99% to perspiration. Woody Allen assigned a ratio of 80% to just showing up. I estimate that one-eighth is the glimmer of an idea, and the rest is pure talent that few others share.

Call me a fan boy

- Krumhorn

the 4chan Guy who reads Althouse said...

@ Krumhorn:

Sincere Thanks.

The Germans have a word for this.

Krumhorn said...

"We're near the end of our session. So, to recap: you are Unhappy, and you spend your time reading a Writer you don't respect and then communicating with others that you don't respect. And you want all of them to change while you stay the same. Is that a fair assessment?

"Pretty much. It gets so tiring, being compelled to constantly deal with people who disappoint me. But it also helps me masturbate too, you know?"

Comedy gold right there

- Krumhorn

buwaya said...

Don Quixote was 100% aggressive whimsy.

Not calling anyone Cervantes, but ...

buwaya said...

There is a piquareque novel in the one-time-Laslo entity.
Just saying.

mockturtle said...

Other than while chopping onions, I haven't cried in years. Not sure why, maybe it's an aging thing.

Krumhorn said...

Aspergers.
I had sex with this chick once, and I sperged all over her face.

"Sperg" is a euphemism for ejaculation, right?

Because if it is then I definitely have Spergers.


I am Laslo.



""Sperg" is a euphemism for ejaculation, right?"

I was once fucking this chick from behind, and I pulled out and sperged all over her ass.

That's right: Ass Spergers.



I am Laslo.



Don't ask me how you make 'sperghetti'.

White sauce joke, that.



I am Laslo.



In Germany they ask "Spergen Sie Deutsch?"

You hear it in a lot of German Porn.



I am Laslo.


C’mon! Does it get any better than that?? .....not if you’re forever 14 like me.

- Krumhorn

Ann Althouse said...

"Also, what happened to Sir Archy and Blogging Cockroach?"

I know the answer to that, but it would require talking about 2 individuals behind their back, and they don't comment here anymore, so I think it's bad form to say things that might make them feel like they should defend themselves when they've gone silent. That's assuming they do read... in which case it's not really behind their back, but it's still bad etiquette in my book. If they were public figures it would be different.

Krumhorn said...

2 anonymous individuals. Like me, for example.

- Krumhorn

n.n said...

Do they deny individual dignity? Are they "diverse"?

Do the deny lives deemed unworthy? Are they Pro-Choice?

It's all a consolidation of capital and control with a measure of redistributive change and progressive corruption.

rhhardin said...

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tenants.

Yancey Ward said...

I would encourage people to actually watch Laslo's YouTube material. It is fucking hilarious!

mockturtle said...

I know the answer to that, but it would require talking about 2 individuals behind their back, and they don't comment here anymore, so I think it's bad form to say things that might make them feel like they should defend themselves when they've gone silent. That's assuming they do read... in which case it's not really behind their back, but it's still bad etiquette in my book. If they were public figures it would be different.

Thank you.

Robert Cook said...

"'BTW. what happened to Laslo?'
"Hangin' out with Harvey Kietel, last I heard."


Still here.

IgnatzEsq said...

I know the answer to that, but it would require talking about 2 individuals behind their back, and they don't comment here anymore, so I think it's bad form to say things that might make them feel like they should defend themselves when they've gone silent.

No worries at all. They were distinctive and amusing and I wish them the best. Cheers.

Marc in Eugene said...

The British Socialists tolerated that one guy who insisted on wearing his hat for the photograph-- perhaps that tolerant spirit was what distinguished them from the British Communists.

Ann Althouse said...

“The Italians have a word for it.”

Questo obrigado tanto mucho que canite carousel....

the 4chan Guy who reads Althouse said...

@5:54PM:

I find those some of the best lyrics Lennon ever crafted.

Evocative; soothing, yet foreign. The fact that they have no literal meaning does not mean that they do not indeed convey meaning.

I will not elide into the obvious snark about 'Imagine.'

The Germans have a word for this.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Whenever the topic of commenters past comes up I want to reiterate again: Palladian, if you are lurking, you are missed and thought of well.

Kirk Parker said...

Barenaked Ladies have the last word on Yoko.

Chris said...

Sure thin Yoko, I'm still crying over the fact that you destroyed the Beatles.