September 24, 2017

Just when liberal media was gearing up to destroy football over all the brain damage, Trump calls for a boycott of football over the National Anthem protests.

Here was the devastating NYT story 3 days ago: "Aaron Hernandez Had Severe C.T.E. When He Died at Age 27":
Aaron Hernandez, the former New England Patriots tight end and a convicted murderer, was 27 when he committed suicide in April. Yet a posthumous examination of his brain showed he had such a severe form of the degenerative brain disease C.T.E. that the damage was akin to that of players well into their 60s.

It was, a lawyer for his family said, in announcing the findings on Thursday, “the most severe case they had ever seen in someone of Aaron’s age.”

C.T.E., or chronic traumatic encephalopathy, has been found in more than 100 former N.F.L. players, some of whom committed suicide, according to researchers at Boston University.
Well, that's it, I said to myself. That's the end of football. How can we sit back and enjoy watching activities that we know are wrecking the players' brain?

Here's the top-rated "NYT Pick" comment there:
I'm a diehard football fan, but the moment is rapidly approaching when I'll stop watching. The Kaepernick situation. The head injuries. The continued blind eye and mishandling of domestic violence cases. Plus, the Giants are 0-2 with no signs of a new left tackle anywhere in sight. I'll miss the ritual of the whole thing most of all (I love spending Sundays with my wife and freinds-eating nachos, drinking beer and watching endless truck commercials), but I think football is something that future generations will look back on with much the same feeling of shock and mild disgust that we feel when contemplating Roman gladiators.
This is a blunt, loud call to stop watching. You're a bad person if — knowing what you know now — you continue to watch football. This isn't a new message. Rush Limbaugh has been saying for years that this issue has already killed football, and it's only a matter of time. But this news about Hernandez was a devastatingly hard hit. Here's how it looked in the middle of the NYT front page last Friday:



Football was down. The end. We, the good people who read the NYT, must say no to football. What is known cannot become unknown except by willful, immoral forgetting. No decent person can take pleasure in football. No fit parent can allow a child to take up the game. The era of American football is over. Bury it. We can end the misery through the simple and necessary refusal to watch anymore. Say no, America... or hey, wait a minute. Here's that nasty President of the United States and he's calling for a boycott of football...


Now, what?! If you really hate brain damage, you might say, great. We can successfully destroy football now, because we've got a powerful second reason for football-watchers to end their support for the evil, destructive game. The people who are least receptive to the brain-damage problem might be the most likely to get into the strict discipline of firing players for "disrespecting our Flag & Country." Look at that capitalization, from the man who said "I love the poorly educated." He knows his audience. They don't read The New York Times. They're not going to let complicated news stories about CTE stop them from watching football. Can they even say chronic traumatic encephalopathy? But they sure get the prod from the Prez about Flag & Country.

Do you ally with your enemy against a common enemy? But Trump isn't the enemy of all football. The National Anthem protests have been hurting football. The ratings have been declining badly, seemingly because of those protests. Trump may be trying to revive football, by demonstrating the strength of the support — among the real fans — for a harsh policy that would end the protests and bring the fans back. But it seems unlikely that football management will adopt that approach, as Trump must know, and so I imagine he's thinking that he's putting his personal stamp on the protest problem. He told management what it needed to do: Fire the protesters. They didn't do it, and the decline of football continued. He told them. He showed them how to save football, and they wouldn't do it, because they don't respect their own fans. They listened to the elite media that has no respect for the people who really watch football (and who vote for Trump).

So, watch the liberal media endeavor to save football from bad old President Trump. He's a racist. This is his racism once again, stirring up the stupid people who voted for him. Here's the NYT today:
The tweet suggested that the president, who used an expletive on Friday night to refer to players who kneel or sit in protest during the anthem — a practice that took hold last season among some African-American players after Colin Kaepernick, the now-former San Francisco 49ers quarterback, did so to protest racial and social injustice — is bent on deepening a bitter culture-war fight with the N.F.L.

It is a highly charged debate, with unmistakable racial undertones, pitting advocates of free speech who argue that professional athletes should have a right to use their positions to call attention to social issues against those who contend that refusing to honor the anthem disrespects the military and the nation, and that sports is no place for such displays.
Let the brain damage continue. We've got a culture war to fight.

269 comments:

«Oldest   ‹Older   201 – 269 of 269
Michael K said...

Fortunately, due to my white privilege, saw the light and changed my evil ways. But, you keep on tellin' me how it is, what with your plethora of personal experience and all

Thanks for a better perspective than most of us. I do notice that you are alive and probably never got shot even by cops who were excessive in physical force.

When I was a medical student at the Mass General, the cops brought in a burglary suspect who was loudly complaining about his wrist.

After we x-rayed it and told them it was OK, they used his head as a battering ram to open the doors to the MGH Emergency Ward.

That was probably in response to wasting their time with a fake injury.

I did see a guy shot by LA County Sheriffs twice in the back. They were thru and thru GSWs and the Sheriff's office started calling me about the case and asking leading questions like "He was shot in the front wasn't he ?"

I went in after the third phone call like that and asked permission to photograph the entry and exit wounds as they were obviously what they were.

The idiot family refused permission. He eventually died and the coroners report came back 6 months later with the wounds described as the Sheriffs wanted them.

That's the only case I've seen with obvious misbehavior and I saw lots of gunshot wounds.

FullMoon said...

Brookzene says:No, I don't have such a list without googling it, and I've seen enough evidence that some cops can be violent, unprofessional, and yes, racist.

Duh. So why do you pretend it is all, or most?.


Michael K said...

"Doesn't bring Walter Scott back to life but is evidence that cops are not immune to justice."

I think the thing that got him was he tried to mess with evidence after the shooting. I don;t know if the taser thing was even brought up.

BJM said...

Excuse me, but exactly who is forcing these athletes to play football?

Football is a violent contact sport and the players are well aware of the risks. It's not just brain damage but many end up with disabling, chronically painful back, knee, ankle and shoulder injuries. Joe Montana, for example, can barely lift his throwing arm. Do you think he regrets playing?

Hockey is almost as violent as football. Do we ban it too?

How about the NBA? They don't wear protective head gear yet players slam their heads on the court sustaining concussions and serious neck injuries.

Professional sports have injury risks and age limitations which is why players are richly rewarded for their skills.

Hells bells, even Olympic diving can result in brain injuries.

Provide the athletes with full informed consent and let them decide.

BTW- I am not a sports fan and follow none, however I am a big fan of the freedom of the pursuit of happiness.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

We watch sports because it's fun. And the NFL is busy making it less fun.

No, you watch it because your own physical activity level is downright bovine, like the rest of you old Wisconsin cows with the beer bellies demonstrate. Spectatorship is for tummy twats like you who don't get any physical activity. It's a known fact.

Of course I can't expect prissy, humorless, low T males who sound like scoldy schoolmarms to understand the concept of "fun."

I'll keep that in mind as I imagine your fat mouth yammer on about the life you can't have but imagine, possibly drowning while white water rafting, missing a foothold while rock climbing, or choking on one of the many oven-baked "snacks" that you and whatever Old Ladies Auxiliary you consort with will be trying out to "impress" the houseful of similarly overindulged, jersey-wearing wannabes you'll have for however long the company lasts before Wisconsin goes back into hibernation from its many spectacular contributions to the nation.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I think a brain-damaged former athlete would be the ideal male "companion" (john, in her case) for sexiled. Think about it, he'll have more of the materialistic money she craves, and will be a vegetable by the time he's her age. (Brain damage is "fun!" Intelligent conversation sucks! - it intimidates her) She can hook up an IV to him and suck the "T" out of his veins that she so craves. I think if any hospitals in the Madison regional area have a neuro-ICU she should do the rounds, look out for a burly guy who didn't wear a helmet on his motorcycle, or any of the other MVA or sports accident victims, and work her "magic" on them. Of course, it's far from certain how well her pear-shaped powers of seduction work - assuming they ever did. But I think it's got to be the best strategy for a black widow like her to get what she so wants.

I will alert the Wisconsin hospitals and they can be on the lookout for a scary old bitch in thin black polyester preying on the traumatically brain-damaged big guys recuperating in their wards. Flopping around from one hospital bed to the next. LOL!

Michael K said...

"many end up with disabling, chronically painful back, knee, ankle and shoulder injuries."

I examine kids applying to the military. I see lots of soccer caused knee injuries. I have even seen some bad tibia fractures, although those are so disabling few would be applying to the military.

The football injuries I see are mostly shoulder.

David said...

The other racial undertone is that the majority of players are black, as are many of the stars. Black and white players have treated pretty much alike by the fans, which means that they hate them or love them, depending on how they are doing on the field. That changes once a race based political issue is injected and players are tested by the political expectations of outsiders..

I think the Steelers team made a good move today when all of the players stayed in the locker room until after the national anthem. The message (as I see it): "We are a team of professionals about to go do our job. The politics that have been imposed on us are putting our players in a position where they are expected to make a symbolic statement that might be detrimental to the individual or divide the team. We refuse to be put in this spot as individuals and as teammates."

Shorter version: "Fuck 'em. Let's play some football."

And yes I know some players had a hand in politicizing this. That does not matter.

Matt said...

If you want to ruin your body and mind with a needle, the left will provide you the needle and a safe space for you to shoot up staffed with medical professionals in case you overdose.

If you want to ruin your mind and body while earning millions of dollars in the process by playing football, the left will work to take that away from you.

Consistency.

Big Mike said...

He sure is managing to keep his supporters distracted from his recent failures with Health Care and the like.

I find it difficult to blame Trump for not realizing that the Republican congress-critters, having at least implicitly campaigned on Obamacare repeal, would decline to follow through. (And in McCain's case, the campaigning on Obamacare was pretty explicit -- I've seen the campaign ad.)

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

If you want to ruin your body and mind with a needle, the left will provide you the needle and a safe space for you to shoot up staffed with medical professionals in case you overdose.

It's better than having them rob you and run up the gang-related activity stats. But I forgot how pro-crime the rightwing is in this country. Not enough crime means not enough guns being used to shoot bad guys instead of their depressed owners.

FullMoon said...

It's better than having them rob you and run up the gang-related activity stats. But I forgot how pro-crime the rightwing is in this country. Not enough crime means not enough guns being used to shoot bad guys instead of their depressed owners.

9/24/17, 2:02 PM


Skipped a couple of doses again, eh?

Michael K said...

One Pittsburg player did come out of the dressing room and stand for the anthem. He is an Army Captain and ranger.

rcocean said...

The problem is that people will get hysterical over a few brain problems in the NFL, and then assume HS, Pee-wee, and even College Football are dangerous.

Young kids are so small and light the impact of any hit is so small that I doubt any severe injury can result. I played Pee-wee football and despite our best efforts, we were never able to do more than dislocate a shoulder. Even in most HS football games, the players are so small and slow, the impacts are reasonable.

As Michael K states, the problem comes at the NFL level where you have 230-300 lbs. athletes, who can run 4.8 40's, crashing into each other 20 games a season.

rcocean said...

Weirdly, I've read that "Headers" in pro soccer games are a significant problem. I guess hitting a soccer ball going 20 MPH with your head, isn't a good idea.

BTW, the primary purpose of helmets in football is protect your head when it hits the ground. That's why they were originally adopted. Guys were wearing leather helmets and getting knocked out when the head impacted terra firma.

Brookzene said...

Thanks, Brookzene. I knew you had no examples.

No, thank you. I was pretty sure you did have that racism thing going.

Mark said...

The difference being, of course, is that Tebow was doing it to honor and thank God

Sorry, but players were kneeling and praying and giving praise to God on the field LONG before Tebow ever put on a uniform. A good part of his schtick was to call attention to himself.

Birkel said...

What? Brookzene still believes charges of racist are effective?

Brookzene has but a hammer.

HT said...

I don't think an article or article on Aaron Hernandez is going to do in the NFL. If you read the comments, most say that his CTE had nothing to do with his crimes. CTE is a real thing, but Aaron Hernandez is not really the poster child for it.

The NFL is in trouble - it's been coming a long time. Donald Trump is just piggy backing on the drama and chaos, which is all he has the capacity for. The NYT similarly has nothing to do with its demise either. But it's fun to bash, I get it.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

all Brookzene can do is scream racism. sorry, sweetie, that doesn't work anymore. try providing some fucking evidence instead, you fool.

Birkel said...

Nobody's fault. Businesses that piss off half or more of their potential customers just miraculously fail.

HT is so smart.

Brookzene said...

all Brookzene can do is scream racism. sorry, sweetie, that doesn't work anymore. try providing some fucking evidence instead, you fool.

I know. You've never seen racism here in the comments section, have you?

Birkel said...

Define racism.
Can everybody be racist or just the People you disprefer?

Brookzene said...

I'm just sayin' if you deny that there are cops on the street who have been making judgment and doling out punishment, that across the country blacks have been beaten and in some cases shot without regard for due process, then you are either willfully ignorant or you got that racism thing going. Probably both.

If you can't accept that premise (or if you insist that the hidden meaning of it is "all cops are bad" so it can't be correct) and you can't stipulate to it in the dialogue about why NFL players are protesting, then what point is there in discussing it with you? If you are going to force everyone you don't like to prove the most uncontroversial, and basically incontrovertible assertions, then there's no way you can be part of the discussion of how we go forward. You are just holding everyone back. It's that simple.

Michael K said...

"You are just holding everyone back. It's that simple."

Hilarious. "Progress" requires that cops are killing black men all over.

I asked for one video that makes your point. You don't have one. This is all seminar stuff.

Brookzene said...

"Progress" requires that cops are killing black men all over.

Those are your words.

FullMoon said...

Brookzene said...

I'm just sayin' if you deny that there are cops on the street who have been making judgment and doling out punishment, that across the country blacks have been beaten and in some cases shot without regard for due process, then you are either willfully ignorant or you got that racism thing going. Probably both.


Any bad black, hispanic, or asian cops?
Any white, hispanic or asian people unjustly shot or framed by black cops? You post a bunch of shit to suggest all white cops are racist and any black guy liable to be shot> Then, you back off with ridiculous" what I meant is bla bla, and you are racist if you don;t agree.
You are ridiculous.You are not only ignorant you are stupid. .

Birkel said...

The premise I must accept is that there is a minority in any large enough group who do illegal, bad things?

What other anodyne things must I accept?

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Define racism.

Trying to keep black Americans from voting. Defending a presidential candidate who says that Mexican-Americans shouldn't be judges. Defending a president who says Mexicans are murderers, rapists and drug dealers even when those in America without documentation commit violent crimes at a lower rate than naturalized citizens.

Brookzene said...

You post a bunch of shit to suggest all white cops are racist

Completely made-up nonsense on your part. Can't or at least won't argue with you if you can't get a grip.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Define racism.

Keeping Arabs and Iranians out of America due to your politicization of them as violent, when no Iranians have committed terrorism against America during or after 9/11 and when the Arabs from the countries most responsible for committing terrorism against us (Saudi Arabia, Egypt) are given a free pass.

Birkel said...

So now racism includes things that do not constitute a race, by your definition?I

Also, most of the events you allege did not happen. So there's that.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Brookzene I certainly have seen racism here - from liberals who treat blacks like moronic children who need your protection.

Michael K said...

Well, Brookzene has her brain trust here now to help her argue.

I guess I will watch some NFL.

Michael K said...

Brookzene should read this but she won't.

Some good points.

Because progressives can’t win in the marketplace of ideas, they resort to shutting down debate and shaming via shrieking pejoratives. They employ the same strategy over and over again: declare conservative beliefs outside the realm of acceptable political discourse, then identify them personally as people of bad character.

It happened at the Emmys. It’s happening on ESPN. It’s happening everywhere. It’s the progressives’ weapon du jour.


Good piece worth reading.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Ritmo Is displaying his low T cattiness once again. what an effeminate little bitch he is, a scoldy little lefty prig. You just know he was the kid nobody wanted on their team..

Thats OK. I'm sure his tranny girlfriend has enough testosterone to make up for his lack.

FullMoon said...

Brookzene said...

You post a bunch of shit to suggest all white cops are racist

Completely made-up nonsense on your part. Can't or at least won't argue with you if you can't get a grip.

9/24/17, 3:51 PM


Sure, loser.
You will post the same crap tomorrow, and the day after. I remember you arguing for little Trayvon and the Gentle Giant with the same vigor.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

sexiled's gotten neglected again, I see. Now picking on those hapless trannies. Well, I can see why she'd feel threatened by them; she's barely enough woman for even a fat, fifty-something, remote-spectator-sport-cheerleading cheesehead.

I gave her advice on how maybe finding one with brain damage (which she evidently supports as a sign of virility!) - might help her. But instead she's picking on supposedly little "effeminate" weaklings like me.

That tells you how womanly she isn't.

If she doesn't shut up, I'll repost what I wrote about her at 1:42 and 1:53, which obviously got deep enough under her scaly, reptilian skin to keep her from responding to it.

Brookzene said...

You post a bunch of shit to suggest all white cops are racist
...


All you have to do is copy and paste ANYTHING I've posted suggesting all white cops are racist. OR...you can call me "LOSER!", declare victory and go home - like the Trotskyite you are! :D

Birkel said...

Now that Mexican is a race, can somebody tell me what genetic markets it has?

Birkel said...

Brookzene,
If all you meant was "some cops are bad" why waste time typing it. Nobody disagrees with that bromide.

The reason people reasonably assume you meant something more is because the thing you want to pretend you meant is unworthy of consideration. It is a bromide, if you meant it.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

What are "genetic markets", Boring Birkel? Just another crap, flubbed point you plucked from your head of air that you will now predictably fail to clarify, define or even ascribe to that keyboard of yours that farted it out?

RMc said...

Well, people, after today's umpeenth screwjob by the refs against my Detroit Lions, I can confidently say the following:

I am done with the National Football League. Done.

Oh, I'll still watch high school and college ball, but NOT the NFL. This level of incompetence and corruption can no longer be rewarded with my time, attention or money.

Done.

FullMoon said...


Blogger Brookzene said...

You post a bunch of shit to suggest all white cops are racist
...


All you have to do is copy and paste ANYTHING I've posted suggesting all white cops are racist. OR...you can call me "LOSER!", declare victory and go home - like the Trotskyite you are! :D


My bad. Your point is all cops are bad, driving while black is suicidal, and anyone who dis agrees is racist. That cover it?

Birkel said...

Racism no longer requires race.
The Left thought Animal Farm too timid a future to impose.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Racism no longer requires race.

How do you define "race?" Must it exist for there to be racists?

Watch Boring Birkel twist in his inability to even understand what was the meaning behind his own point.

Brookzene said...

You post a bunch of shit to suggest all white cops are racist

Again, you're kind of missing the whole virtue of being conservative and right-wing: they're famous for thinking clearly and being unemotional in their arguments. Someone like that could say back my actual points and argue against THOSE - not words that he puts into my mouth. That's kind of a NON-rational way of arguing, isn't it FullMoon?

So let's see you put on your big-boy conservative pants and make a rational argument against whatever I have actually said.

Or, again, answer with something I never said or other nonsequitor-type material and declare your awesome victory.

FullMoon said...


Blogger Brookzene said...

You post a bunch of shit to suggest all white cops are racist

Again, you're kind of missing the whole virtue of being conservative and right-wing: they're famous for thinking clearly and being unemotional in their arguments. Someone like that could say back my actual points and argue against THOSE - not words that he puts into my mouth. That's kind of a NON-rational way of arguing, isn't it FullMoon?

So let's see you put on your big-boy conservative pants and make a rational argument against whatever I have actually said.

Or, again, answer with something I never said or other nonsequitor-type material and declare your awesome victory.

Ahh, here it is, the "conservative, right wing" label. You run and hide with that bullshit. Here is a clue, jerk-off, I don't like anybody. I especially don't like assholes, and you qualify. You have toned down your argument to basically agree with everybody in the whole world. There are some bad cops who do bad things. You are a fucking genius. You agree that racism has nothing to do with it then, it is simply human nature. Some humans are bad. Some of those bad humans are cops.

Bob Ellison said...

When I went out for high-school basketball, the coach's first words were, "this is a contact sport".

Man, was he right. It killed me right out of the competition.

Brookzene said...

Personally I love cops. I think they have one of the toughest jobs you can imagine - right up there with nurses. My cousin was a great cop for years - nicest guy in the world, I would trust nobody to be more fair and square with the public. I'll bet he was one of the very best.

None of that means that there isn't a problem with racism, violence and injustice in law enforcement or the criminal justice system. Of course there is, we all know it. There's some real concern about how bad it is exactly - I don't think anyone knows for sure but the problem deserves attention. The stakes are too high to ignore it as we have done for years and year. And years. In no way is that an indictment on all cops for being cops.

And if you think my pov here is unacceptable then we'll probably never solve anything unless we just leave you out of the discussion for the time being and work on the problem without your imput.

Brookzene said...

There are plenty of Republicans and conservatives who at least have a minimal grasp of the dangerous situation we're in and a willingness to talk about it with some sense of reality. We don't have to depend on people who are deliberately slow-walking or obfuscating or deliberately worsening racial problems.

FullMoon said...

And if you think my pov here is unacceptable then we'll probably never solve anything unless we just leave you out of the discussion for the time being and work on the problem without your imput.

9/24/17, 4:48 PM


Haha! Yeah, do that. For reals this time.

None of that means that there isn't a problem with racism, violence and injustice in law enforcement or the criminal justice system. Of course there is, we all know it. There's some real concern about how bad it is exactly - I don't think anyone knows for sure but the problem deserves attention.

Right, nobody knows for sure. Maybe it is much less than you have been led to believe, you loving cops and all. Nope, couldn't be less pervasive, gotta be way worse, amIright?

FullMoon said...

My cousin was a great cop for years - nicest guy in the world, I would trust nobody to be more fair and square with the public. I'll bet he was one of the very best.

No doubt. Your cousin could also be an asshole if need be. Kind of a job requirement. Doesn't mean he was a racist, evil person.

Brookzene said...

Trump is definitely one of the ones who is worsening the racial situation and seeking to divide us. That was evident in Alabama, and frankly even before in Charlottesville. The Great Divider.

Not that there aren't bad players on both sides - there are. But no one is in Trump's league and we need to push back on him very hard.

Bob Ellison said...

Brookzene said, "None of that means that there isn't a problem with racism, violence and injustice in law enforcement or the criminal justice system. Of course there is, we all know it."

What, pray tell, do we all know?

Could you break it down? There's a problem with racism, and a problem with violence, and a problem with injustice in law enforcement. No problem with that.

But you are in the leftist conflation universe. What, exactly, is the problem? Am I a racist?

HT said...

Rob McLean said...


Done.
__________
I know, I hate badly called games. Not sure about the gripe in question, but they did just show Lions hilites and the guy going in for the TD - his knee really was down before the ball x'ed the goal line.

FullMoon said...

Brookzene said...

Trump is definitely one of the ones who is worsening the racial situation and seeking to divide us

Son like Trayvon
Police acting stupidly
White hispanic Zimmerman
Gentle Giant Mikey
Five Dallas cops assasinated

Special place in hell for women who do not vote for Hillary

Michael K said...

Brookzene, you are backing down a bit.

1. If you don't know that some people are getting shot even while complying than you are willfully ignorant.

2.You're saying even if it's open season on driving while black, people are "not so hideously oppressed" because they have free speech? That's what you mean to say?

Do you still support those two comments that sound like you are heavily into this "Black Lives Matter" stuff ?

The people who are killing black men are other black men. Not cops.


tim in vermont said...

"
It's better than having them rob you and run up the gang-related activity stats. But I forgot how pro-crime the rightwing is in this country. Not enough crime means not enough guns being used to shoot bad guys instead of their depressed owners."

Not racist.

Brookzene said...

1. If you don't know that some people are getting shot even while complying than you are willfully ignorant.

2.You're saying even if it's open season on driving while black, people are "not so hideously oppressed" because they have free speech? That's what you mean to say?

Do you still support those two comments that sound like you are heavily into this "Black Lives Matter" stuff ?

The people who are killing black men are other black men. Not cops.


The first one is absolutely true, and you don't have to be at all "heavily into this 'Black Lives Matter' stuff" to know that. Racism, violence and injustice are endemic to law enforcement and the criminal justice system. I'm not saying that's the full story on LE or CJ but it's got to be acknowledged, studied and dealt with. I don't believe you will ever have a perfect system because systems that big cannot be perfect. But we need to do better, we can do better and we have done better.

Number two was a question, not a comment, to someone whose argument was apparently that they had the right to express themselves by protesting so apparently they were "not so hideously oppressed", which is just a total nonsense argument. Again you don't have to be "heavily into this 'Black Lives Matter' stuff" to know that.

Brookzene said...

Well, Brookzene has her brain trust here now to help her argue.

I'm male and you won't get any respect from me at all if you don't show some respect back.

I suspect, unlike me, you aren't able to show respect to people you disagree with politically, however. You express that in almost every political thread you are in.

But if you want mutual respect in the comments I'm always a willing partner and I'll go at least half-way with anyone here.

Brookzene said...

What, pray tell, do we all know?

Could you break it down? There's a problem with racism, and a problem with violence, and a problem with injustice in law enforcement. No problem with that.

But you are in the leftist conflation universe. What, exactly, is the problem? Am I a racist?


I don't know if you are a racist or not, Bob. You should ask yourself that. It's something I ask myself from time to time. Probably everyone should at least once. My concern with you is what kind of commenter are you?

I don't know how to fix racism or any other ism, except that I think they're always symptoms of the key diseases of mankind: selfishness and self-importance. My only point is that I think there's some justification for the NFL protests even though at first I didn't agree with the "take-a-knee" demonstrations. After this weekend I do support them fully. That's really what I'm on about here.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

No doubt. Your cousin could also be an asshole if need be. Kind of a job requirement. Doesn't mean he was a racist, evil person.

That's true. Just ask Mark Fuhrman!

ROFLMAO!

The rechtwing thinks that what we clearly need are more trigger-happy cops. More militarized police forces. And most of all, more nonviolent crimes with which to pursue our fellow Americans.

Lastly, voting restrictions against felons, because clearly not enough of the African-American vote can be suppressed just by restricting voting hours and requiring forms of identification that more blacks than whites would need, like a driver's license.

Gerrymandering can only go so far. Good thing that there are other ways to racially skew the vote!

Those Republicans... always thinking!

FullMoon said...

Blogger The Toothless Revolutionary said...

No doubt. Your cousin could also be an asshole if need be. Kind of a job requirement. Doesn't mean he was a racist, evil person.

That's true. Just ask Mark Fuhrman!

ROFLMAO!


Whoa! Thought you and Brook were pals. Equating his cousin, whom he professes to love dearly , with racist Furman, who framed OJ with planted blood and glove, is beyond the pale.

Brookzene said...

Whoa! Thought you and Brook were pals. Equating his cousin, whom he professes to love dearly ,

This is why you seriously could never be a good debater or even a good thinker. You can't hear or understand what other people say.

When in God's name did I ever profess to love my cousin dearly?

You're a real loser in the critical thinking game.

FullMoon said...

Brookzene said...

Whoa! Thought you and Brook were pals. Equating his cousin, whom he professes to love dearly ,

This is why you seriously could never be a good debater or even a good thinker. You can't hear or understand what other people say.

When in God's name did I ever profess to love my cousin dearly?

You're a real loser in the critical thinking game.

9/24/17, 7:03 PM


Right, now you agree with your idol TTR, your cousin, the nice cop is just another Furhman type racist asshole. What a jerk.

FullMoon said...

Brookzene said...

You're a real loser in the critical thinking game.

9/24/17, 7:03 PM


So, uh, Mr. critical thinker, what happened to the decades old argument that republicans wanted to take away social security and medi-care? You been hearing that your whole life, and the fact it never happened did not encourage you to examine the validity of your belief. You know, think about it critically.
And, as mentioned before, open season on black drivers. You still believe that, right?

BJM said...

Welp, the trolls certainly flushed this thread.

«Oldest ‹Older   201 – 269 of 269   Newer› Newest»