September 20, 2017

"I knew there was something about him, but I couldn't put my finger on it."

"He gave me a lot of attention, made me feel like I was important."

Says the woman who — for 10 years — dated a man who has pleaded guilty to murdering 7 persons over a 13-year period and who was caught after the discovery of woman with a chain around her neck in a storage container on his property.

From Inside Edition.

I can believe that a killer successful enough to murder than many people over that stretch of time is excellent at dispelling doubts and making the prospective victim feel that she's important and lucky to be getting his attention, but... 10 years?

35 comments:

Virgil Hilts said...

Every Buffalo Bill has their Precious.

traditionalguy said...

Boundaries must be set for a safe relationship. A con man loves everything you do...that's the con.

Kevin said...

"He gave me a lot of attention, made me feel like I was important."

Well there's your red flag right there.

tcrosse said...

Cue the comment about Trump as con artist.

john said...

She will move out of her trailer and move into a cheap hotel next to the prison to be available when he can see visitors.

Rob said...

If they were dating for ten years, I'm guessing she put more than her finger on it.

buwaya said...

This is normal. Not in these specific circumstances, necessarily, but very similar ones of all kinds.
So normal that it has implications for population genetics.
The "killer ape" theory never went away.

Bay Area Guy said...

Some people are really, really, dumb.

Some of these people happen to be women.

Michael K said...

The guy seems to have been more patient than Ted Bundy.

mccullough said...

The BTK killer was married for 34 years. His wife claimed never to know anything either. Given how long he had been evading arrest, it seems believable.

Darrell said...

Woman chained in a cargo container on their property. Yeah. She knew nothing. Right.

Saint Croix said...

"There's something about him. I just can't put my finger on it."

"He's a serial killer."

"No. That's not it."

Saint Croix said...

Everybody seems weird after you find dead bodies in their house.

n.n said...

So you married an abortionist.

mockturtle said...

The Boston Stranger was married. So was the Green River Killer. Bundy had a longtime girlfriend whom he lived with, as did the Hillside Rapist in Spokane. Even John Wayne Gacy was married for quite a long time.

Saint Croix said...

Watch one of the Gosnell documentaries.

His neighbors were like, "I thought he was a normal abortion doctor. But he's got dead babies in there!"

mockturtle said...

Darrel is skeptical: Woman chained in a cargo container on their property. Yeah. She knew nothing. Right.

Maybe it was in his Man Cave.

Birches said...

I think this guy could probably hide it well. Judging from the murders they've tied to him, it appears he kills people in fits of anger or because of grudges. Since she's still alive, it's obvious she's always been on his good side.

buwaya said...

Confident murderers attract women.

mockturtle said...

In fact IIRC, Gacy buried young men under his house while his wife and child were living there.

Saint Croix said...

So you married an abortionist.

Or a slave-owner.

Some people are completely normal, except in this one area where anything goes. You compartmentalize to avoid the cognitive dissonance.

Saint Croix said...

His girlfriend is us, the murder victims are them.

mockturtle said...

What I don't understand is the number of women who become enamoured of serial killers after they are tried, convicted and imprisoned. It's sick.

Mac McConnell said...

This did happen at Trump Tower or a college campus so I doubt it will get much national media play.

Joe said...

Sociopaths mentally and emotionally exist outside the bell curve of most of humanity. Many, perhaps most, have learned to act as though they are like the rest of us and in doing so have learned to lie and deceive in ways that are usually hard to detect (until it's too late.)

Bill Peschel said...

I read the girlfriend's account of dating Bundy years ago ("The Phantom Prince"). The only unusual signs she noticed were that the days after a killing, he would be more excitable, nervous, jumpy, and sweating. Other than that, a real sweet guy.

Bad Lieutenant said...

buwaya said...
This is normal. Not in these specific circumstances, necessarily, but very similar ones of all kinds.
So normal that it has implications for population genetics.
The "killer ape" theory never went away.
9/20/17, 11:42 AM

Bu, I so rarely have to ask YOU for a clarification...but, huh?

Left Bank of the Charles said...

"I can believe that a killer successful enough to murder than many people over that stretch of time is excellent at dispelling doubts and making the prospective victim feel that she's important and lucky to be getting his attention, but... 10 years?"

Todd Kohlhepp has confessed to killing:

4 people in 2003, which is more than 10 years ago
2 people in December 2015
1 person in August 2017 (2nd person rescued by police)

More bodies may turn up, but there are just the 2 incidents in the 10 year "dating" period.
He had a 100 acre fenced property in the country, which is a lot of space to hide things. That's the equivalent of 40 city blocks.

Kohlhepp was a successful real estate broker who employed some 12 dozen people. Will the cold neutrality of Althouse fall on them?

Not the only real estate guy who thinks he can get away with anything.

buwaya said...

"Bu, I so rarely have to ask YOU for a clarification...but, huh?"

Raymond Dart's theory -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killer_ape_theory

The idea that violence and aggression are the critical drivers behind human evolution; that these are extremely important factors in mating success.

Jupiter said...

"In May, Kohlhepp pleaded guilty to the murder of seven people over a 13-year period, and was sentenced to seven consecutive life sentences with no possibility of parole."

Am I the only one who thinks society has a duty to destroy this thing?

Jupiter said...

From buwaya's link;

"Reduced inequalities, more available resources, and reduced blood feuds due to better functioning justice systems may have contributed to declining intra-group violence."

Which is why society has a duty to destroy this thing.

The Cracker Emcee Activist said...

I believe her. Feigning sincerity is easy with chicks.

Freeman Hunt said...

"Am I the only one who thinks society has a duty to destroy this thing?"

Seeing life sentences instead of the death penalty for this sort of thing is pretty aggravating.

mockturtle said...

Am I the only one who thinks society has a duty to destroy this thing?

No. Many of us would like the death penalty imposed and implemented more often. And stop these plea bargains in cases where the evidence is strong for a conviction.

mockturtle said...

I believe her. Feigning sincerity is easy with chicks.

Pretty easy with guys, too, Cracker.