Set to march in the parade’s 67th spot this year was the Multnomah County Republican Party, a fact that so outraged two self-described antifascist groups in the deep blue Oregon city that they pledged to protest and disrupt the April 29 event.So now that's all it takes to end freedom of expression in Portland. What a flimsy, pathetic place.
Then came an anonymous and ominous email, according to parade organizers, that instructed them to cancel the GOP group’s registration — or else... 200 people would “rush into the parade” and “drag and push” those marching with the Republican Party.
“We will not give one inch to groups who espouse hatred toward LGBT, immigrants, people of color or others,” it said....
And it was only a threat to drag and push a specific set of people who were going to be present at a particular place and time. Do the police in Portland not know how to manage crowds? Let the parade happen, let the protesters arrive and protest, and deal with the situation as it unfolds. If you won't do that, you don't have a free society.
ADDED: The threat to shut down roads is particularly absurd to me after what I've seen in Madison down at the state capitol. When the protesters were coming, the police themselves would shut down the roads to make it easier on everyone. I've also seen the police here deal with situations where they knew antagonistic groups were going to be in the same place at the same time. There are techniques for this. You don't just give up and say now we can't assemble in groups anymore.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 240 of 240Ace just linked this post. And yes ARM: "If you want it, here it is; come and get it." You and your fascist brownshirts. You want to create a world where people are beaten for their political views, you can have all you want.
--Vance
Portland is the Democrat stronghold of the Democrat state where the Governor empowered the State Police to execute Lavoy Finnicum for trespassing on federal property. And yet the Rose Committee apparently assumes that the Democrat authorities will not take the steps necessary to protect innocent participants in a revered traditional activity from violence perpetrated by lawless thugs who announce their intentions in advance.
Welcome to Democratworld.
"In the Facebook message, obtained by a search warrant, he wrote: “I’m going to the Milo event and if the snowflakes get out off hand I’m just going to wade through their ranks and start cracking skulls.”"
In other words, if the goons start something, I'm going to fight back, and not just take it.
"A Reasonable Man" (sic) seems to think that's not reasonable.
At the risk of seeming overly high-minded, doesn't this kind of crap run the risk of making a nullity of our protected right to assemble peaceably ... ?
>>”The bullet went in through his abdomen and exited his back. Two months later, he still bears an oozing wound and a long surgical scar. He has lost his gall bladder and half his colon. His liver was severely damaged; his diaphragm pierced."
As ARM intends, I am appalled.
But at the poor shot placement, and the lack of a follow up round.
Perhaps its time to have a "day without white males" or a day without flyover country. Lets see how long these thugs last without food or electricity.
They do it because they can get away with it. Even liberal Austin TX (near where I live) would not put up with this. Partially I suspect our Governor would send in the state police and national guard if riots occurred.
@TwilightofLiberty
They are, we are, it is happening. Organization isn't quick, but it is in the process. Groups and chapters of existing groups are proliferating. People are networking, recruits are pouring in. The biggest problem I have currently is keeping a lid on the hotheads who just want to rush the nearest university and pummel all and sundry. The days of Antifa getting away scot-free are over. The cops may protect them, the prosecutors may refuse to investigate or charge them, the mayors and universities may support them. Nothing can save them from America.
ARM is the last person to claim moral superiority.
A woman shoots a protestor who threatened her husband-she claims.
Lets compare and contrast.
A professor attacks who he presumes to be a nazi with a bike lock wrapped in a sock. Injuries occur.
The man and the woman were counterprotesters they did not wear masks. When the realized tht they might be in trouble they voluntarily went to the police and gave their statement.
The bike lock attacker wore a hoodie. He had on a mask and sunglasses. It took a concerted social media effort to find out who he was and it's still not clear if he has been arrested
I find violence in protesting reprehensable.
I find your cheap effort at moral equivelence even more so.
As a prolifer I frequently encountered leftist counter-protestors. Believe this about them. If you are alone and they out-number you by 5 to 1, they will think about beating you up. Even if you are a woman. Only the presence of police who enforce the laws holds this tendency down. I have no doubt that this man was heading for a beating and was being threatened with worse. He went into an excited leftist crowd with only one other person (and it wasn't evident she was with him) and the police were standing down.
(Even where the police are standing down, if you are in a group, even if it is only five people, even if two of them are women, the leftys would hesitate to attack the group while they will jump on a single individual.)
ARM is the last person to claim moral superiority.
A woman shoots a protestor who threatened her husband-she claims.
Lets compare and contrast.
A professor attacks who he presumes to be a nazi with a bike lock wrapped in a sock. Injuries occur.
The man and the woman were counterprotesters they did not wear masks. When the realized tht they might be in trouble they voluntarily went to the police and gave their statement.
The bike lock attacker wore a hoodie. He had on a mask and sunglasses. It took a concerted social media effort to find out who he was and it's still not clear if he has been arrested
I find violence in protesting reprehensable.
I find your cheap effort at moral equivelence even more so.
Thank you Laslo for bringing some sense and perspective to this discussion.
There is a remarkable difference between the attitudes of the pro-Trump Hokoanas and their victim Josh Dukes. Dukes is identifiably human with an intact sense of empathy, whereas the Hokoanas are empty shells filled with partisan hate.
Josh Dukes said..
"She [Elizabeth Hokoana] is going to go into a system that will eat her alive and that’s awful. It’s hard to wish that on anyone.”
Marc Hokoana said...
“I’m going to the Milo event and if the snowflakes get out off hand I’m just going to wade through their ranks and start cracking skulls.”
Dont Republicans control any business interests, that can boycott Portland? Like the NCAA boycotted North Carolina? Conservatives need some heavy hitters step up and make the elected officials pay for their ineptitude.
Talk, talk, talk, talk.
It's all talk until somebody gets killed. Then, the next phase begins. Could it really be true that Trump and Sessions are letting the left run wild so as to get all the normals on board with massive arrests, investigations, and imprisonment for these black-clad maggots?
Somebody is eventually going to die. Then the next phase begins. Up to now, it's all talk-talk on the right and fascist maggot posing on the left. When the first person dies, the left's death knell in America will toll.
I looked through all the comments and I can't find one where ARM addresses the "antifascists" shutting down Portland.
Right now, ARM's brave heroes are shitting in the street in Berkeley and throwing their feces at conservatives.
http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/antifa-turds-575x1573.jpg
Be proud, ARM! There's your noble Resistance!
"Dukes is identifiably human with an intact sense of empathy, whereas the Hokoanas are empty shells filled with partisan hate."
Sure. A Commie Worker of the World. I'll bet he had tons of empathy for the people he was screaming at and threatening the second before he got shot.
The shit flingers of Berkeley, now those are fine human beings too. Not filled with partisan hate at all.
Lord, ARM, you are one morally blind idiot.
All Hail the Shit Throwers of the Revolution!
"Believe this about them. If you are alone and they out-number you by 5 to 1, they will think about beating you up. "
No, no, they are fine young people! ARM says so. They are beating people, hitting them with bike locks and throwing their own shit, but it's idealistic and done with the greatest empathy!
All Hail the Shit Throwers of the Revolution!
It's just a little movement the French call pas de merdeux.
Speaking of empty shells filled with partisan hate.
All Hail the Shit Throwers of the Revolution!
The anality of evil.
AReasonableMan said...
Speaking of empty shells filled with partisan hate."
I'm not out there throwing shit at people, ARM.
The ugly little animals you love so much are.
Be proud, asshole.
exiledonmainstreet said...
I'm not out there throwing shit at people.
No you are here doing the same thing, unfortunately. Still you will get tired the place soon enough, no amount of hate can fill the empty hole in your soul.
"No you are here doing the same thing, unfortunately"
Right. Because calling you out on your moral blindness and hypocrisy, like many others have been doing in this thread, is exactly the same as shitting in public and throwing it at another person.
Goodness, dear, do you need a safe space? A puppy? A coloring book? Awwww. Such terrible, awful triggering words in this thread, why, it's as if we've all ganged up on you and hit you over the head with a bike lock. Words: mine, Coulter's, Milo's are just so scary and hateful! Stop the bad words, mommy! Make them all go away!
Shorter ARM: Why won't the conservatives stand still while we beat them?
It's just not fair if the conservatives are going to fight back.
You will go away when you finally realize that hating people on the internet is not going to fill that hole in soul.
Hey, ARM! What do you think about the topic of the post?
AReasonableMan said...
You will go away when you finally realize that hating people on the internet is not going to fill that hole in soul."
You are confusing hatred with contempt.
And the Left is all about Hate, not Love. I figured that out 25 years ago. That's why I became a conservative and I will fight to save my country from them - and from cowards like you, who excuse their hate and project it onto others.
It is telling that ARM, the "moderate" hates free speech, while Bernie Sanders the leftist socialist, defends it. I don't give Bernie credit for much but that deserves a tip of the hat.
Not that the Bernie Bros who profess to love him so much are listening.
exiledonmainstreet said...
hatred with contempt
You know now that nothing is going to fill that hole in your soul. Your life is going to dribble out in time punctuated only with your hate-filled yelling on the internet. That no one cares what you think only makes you yell louder, but still the emptiness surrounds you, stifling you, forcing you to gasp for air so you can yell again. You will tire of this forum and move on, in an increasingly hysterical search for some meaning in your life. You will never find it on the internet.
Shorter ARM: You hate!!!! Hater, hater, hater!! So there!
Boy it takes a lot of schooling to come up with an argument like that!
LOL!
Nah, I'm not going anywhere, ARM.
I'm comfortable here. (And I didn't just show up yesterday either.)
And now I know how much you want me to leave, I've leaned on the sofa, kicked off my shoes and settled in. I look forward to calling you out on your hypocrisy, smugness, prejudice, authoritarianism and moral blindness for a long time...
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Michael K:
Good point. Lots of short-sighted actions in the last eight years that will have long-term consequences.
I suspect those who expect Obama and Hillary Clinton to lead and inspire the "resistance" will be disappointed. The former is busy giving $400K speeches to private groups. The latter is too tired, and her daughter, offered as a surrogate, is not that charismatic.
4/27/17, 4:16 PM
Ouch, that will leave a mark! If you are considered "not that charismatic" compared to Hillary, that is saying something!
AReasonableMan said...
There is a remarkable difference between the attitudes of the pro-Trump Hokoanas and their victim Josh Dukes. Dukes is identifiably human with an intact sense of empathy, whereas the Hokoanas are empty shells filled with partisan hate.
4/27/17, 8:18 PM
LOL, LOL, and LOL!
But those Nazis were SO nice! They kept the trains running on time. They loved puppies! They loved their children too! They were so identifiably human!
“Nobody is listening to you…”
LOL, and who is listening to you? Where does your opinion carry weight? Are you being asked to speak at Berkeley?
We’re are all just ordinary people offering our opinions on a blog. I am entertained by your fantasies about the supposed “emptiness” of my life. In fact, I have a pretty good one, with my books, family and friends. But I am concerned about how the Left, people with no love or gratitude for this nation, are ruining its institutions.
You and others like you, would like to ensure that nobody listens to conservatives – or even has the chance. I am happy to see conservatives are fighting back.
Original Mike said...Hey, ARM! What do you think about the topic of the post? <-- This!!!
What a pathetic attempt to hijack a comment thread. I laugh at ARM's failure.
@Laslo: Great comedic mockery -- Bravo!
Laslo's charm is disARMing
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