February 28, 2017

President Trump's address to Congress.

1. Let's watch the big it's-not-a-State-of-the-Union address.

2. The Supreme Court Justices who are sitting this out are Clarence Thomas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Samuel Alito.

3. Some Democratic women are showing their suffragette colors, wearing white. I'm seeing Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Nancy Pelosi in white. But Elizabeth Warren is in purple.

4. Trump is given a full standing ovation. Maybe a few are remaining seated.

5. Trump introduces the First Lady, who looks unusually happy... and also very glamorous, in sparkly black. Trump isn't wearing a red tie for once. It's blue. And striped.

6. He condemns hate, and says he wants to deliver a message of optimism and strength.

7. I haven't kept up with live-blogging this. Thanks for keeping up the conversation in the comments.

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exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Unknown said...
> Name another purple gang as prominent.

The whole rhythm section

2/28/17, 11:26 PM

I'm not sure which Unknown you are, but I have to admit, that's pretty damn good.

Mark said...

9:42 p.m. Washington Post big headline does NOT bash Trump, but is actually fair: "Trump lays out broad vision and agenda for America".

Let's see how long it is before they change it.


Well, now they've changed it to something more partisan and to take a jab at him --

"Trump gives hard-line campaign vows a milder tone in speech to Congress"
"Aims to steady presidency after tumultuous first 40 days"

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Hours later they are still 100% delusional on MSNBC. Dreaming of impeachment, laughing at the widow, projecting their feelings onto Pence. When you go to Rob Reiner and Kathy Griffin for "insightful commentary" you are cleaned out of ideas. This channel is funnier than SNL!

Alex said...

I personally prefer 'wild Trump' on Twitter when he's speaking off the cuff and saying outrageous things that enrage libtards. This 'presidential' thing just doesn't work for me. I want 'smashmouth Trump'.

traditionalguy said...

The BBC commenters all agreed that Trump is now a moderate Statesman. Go figure.

Ryan Owens widow was the star of the night. It is rare to see that real courage of a newly smashed warrior, but with The Glory of God resting on her.

wholelottasplainin said...

sunsong said...
So who is fact-checking this bull shit?

************

Obviously, NOT YOU!!!

If you had something to refute, you would have posted it!!!

wholelottasplainin said...

S.I.E.U has between 2 and 3 million members.

*************

A union created by a Kennedy EO.

Live by an EO, DIE by an effin EO.

Does the name PATCO strike a familiar note?

Mary Beth said...

There are a bunch of tweets, and news articles featuring them, by catty people who don't approve of Melania's outfit.

I think she looked great and I disagree with those who think her suit was inappropriate.

Yancey Ward said...

I didn't watch it live, but read it just now. Trump wrong-footed his critics tonight.

It makes sense to treat Congress a bit more respectfully tonight in contrast to the broadside he delivered to them indirectly at the inauguration- his party has a majority in both houses and he will need them to move anything of significance forward. Smartly done tonight.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Blogger Seeing Red said...
It's more inspiring than we are going to weatherstrip the country.


Which statement seems more American?

Obama: "We could end this energy crisis if we only did what Jimmy Carter told us to do forty years ago and checked our tire pressure!"

Trump: "Frack and drill."

Media people talk about "normalizing" Trump.
Hillary is the oddball. She fits no American type (though her husband does).
Trump is the blustery, self-confidant, self-invented, gauche new millionaire. He eats well done steak with Heinz ketchup. He is Citizen Kane, he is Gatsby, fer God's sake.

Achilles said...

Lewis Wetzel said...
He eats well done steak with Heinz ketchup

Does he really? That's awful.

JAORE said...

"Original Mike said, "Saved it? He fucked up what would have been an orderly bankruptcy and reorganization.

But an orderly bankruptcy wouldn't have paid off his UAW supporters nearly as richly as the Administration plan did, at the expense of secured creditors."

I always wondered if bond holding mutual funds were among those secured creditors. If so, could they have been held accountable for NOT fighting that effort tooth and nail?

Etienne said...

I was expecting Trump to say to the world that he had disciplined Kellyanne for putting her feet on the sofa, and that Melania will make certain she gets extra chores for a week.

grackle said...

Trump has to deal with Mick Mulvaney, and pass a budget.

Correction: Congress will have to pass the budget. Trump, like other Presidents before him, can introduce, sponsor, propose, request, use the bully pulpit, twist arms, demand, threaten, bribe, blackmail, cheerlead or boo from the gallery but Congress passes budgets. Always has, always will, unless they amend the Constitution.

President Trump will “deal” with Mulvaney the way Trump deals with ANY employee - generously and fairly unless of course they fuck up too badly or fail to meet standards – then he fires them and hires someone else.

It’s an open question in my mind whether a Congress led by Ryan and McConnell are up to the task of passing much of anything. Don’t get me started on McCain and Graham, two other “leaders” in the Senate. McCain, especially, needs to start acting like the war hero he’s supposed to be instead of the Democrats’ Tokyo Rose.

It looks to me that the obstinate fact of Trump has partially revealed the incestuous relationship between the two “opposing” parties in Congress. Almost openly, the eGOP alliance with the Democrats and the MSM continues, as it has for years behind the scenes – elections having been exercises in futility for as much change as they have caused.

I think Ryan is using Darrell Issa, a certified political whore who’ll do anal for facetime on the cables, and from a very safe district in nutty California(natch), to float the Special Prosecutor meme. That way Ryan himself gets to keep his panties clean and halo in place. He wouldn’t want to upset the many Trump supporters in HIS own district, now would he?

Favorite comment so far: When you go to Rob Reiner and Kathy Griffin for "insightful commentary" you are cleaned out of ideas.

Clyde said...

Mike said...
Could the democrats have found an older whiter room full of hillbillies to represent their party in the "response" speech? I didn't know Marshall Applewhite had a brother!


Wow, you're right! It's almost like they were separated at birth!

Etienne said...
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Rusty said...

AReasonableMan said...

"Mark said...
Meanwhile, Ford was able to get through just fine without putting its grubby hands into taxpayers' pockets.

Ford openly supported the bailout because they would have also gone down without it, if for no other reason than the economic chaos in their supply chains."

And yet they took no bailout. It was good PR. That's all it was for Ford.
There are only a handful of companies that make the gear for all the car companies.

Francisco D said...

Please pay attention to Chuck. He seems desperate.

On to other matters: It was a good, sober speech that was not unexpected. The Democrats looked petulant and Nancy Pelosi is inching closer to a breakdown.

MacMacConnell said...

The Dems Didn't applause to basic American ideals espoused by Trump and no current elected Dem office holder had the balls to deliver an official response to Trump.

All the Dems wearing white looked like a Klan Jambory, must have been celebrating their heritage in honor of Black History Month.



MacMacConnell said...

Francisco D said...

"Nancy Pelosi is inching closer to a breakdown."

Am I the only one that has scenes of the movie "Brazil" running in their heads when I see closeups of Nancy Pelosi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnx95KyQEAA

Rusty said...

Francisco D said...
Please pay attention to Chuck. He seems desperate.

No.There's an associative property to mediocrity.

tim in vermont said...

When I was a kid, I remember there were such things as GM families and Ford families. I was always a GM guy until the bailout. I am in the market now for a pickup truck for use around the Vermont place, and the slot is now the F-150's to lose. Toyota is second, second even though it is the better truck. GM is no longer under consideration. Up to now I always used a Suburban. But the kids are gone and we don't need the passenger carrying space.

ARM can push his defense of Democrat fascism all he wants.

Funny how he considers himself a moderate, yet defends the most heinous policies on the part of Obama and Clinton, likes everything liberal like and hates everything conservatives like, and somehow finds himself to be a "reasonable" person who considers all sides, when really he is just one more knee-jerk liberal.

Rusty said...

Tim
I used to like Dodge with the Cummings six diesel. Nissan Titan now has a diesel with the Cummings diesel V8 that was supposed to go into the Dodge Ram. You might want to look at that one too. I like Nissan. After 14 years on Illinois roads my Pathfinder is finally rusting out. Not too bad for a work car that barely gets any maintenance.

ARM seems to think without government we couldn't tie our shoes.
Maybe he can't, but I've been managing pretty well all these years.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

tim in vermont said...
Funny how he considers himself a moderate, yet defends the most heinous policies on the part of Obama and Clinton, likes everything liberal like and hates everything conservatives like, and somehow finds himself to be a "reasonable" person who considers all sides, when really he is just one more knee-jerk liberal.


All this passage shows is that you are a dumb cunt. One of the dumbest ever.

tim in vermont said...

One more rebuttal from ARM the chickenhawk, defender of Hillary's demolition of stable government in Libya.

Notice the cogent reasoning, erudite citation of fact, trenchant dissection, point by point, of my comment.

Oh wait... none of that happened. He called me a cunt.

Bob Boyd said...

Trump is certainly not the perfect President, but there are two reasons he is the office now.

The Democrat Party and the Republican Party.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

The economic litany that you have believed in for forty years has run this country into the ground and is now in disrepute, rejected by a Republican president. Your response is that of a little child, you stamp your foot and you say 'I won't buy GM'. Now one gives a fuck what you think, you are yesterdays man, irrelevant. You are the problem, not the solution.

And you are a dumb cunt. One of the dumbest. A hate-filled loser no better than AprilApple.

mockturtle said...

Hey everybody, we dems don't hate those rural white voters! Honest we don't. Why lookee here, we got a whole room full of 'em just to give you confidence that we, the dems, no longer want all the white folks to die off so we can usher in Heaven On Earth! We just LOVE you guys! Now that that's out of the way, would all you working class whites please, pretty please, come back to Pelosi/Schumer/Ellison Central?

Nicely done, Drago. This is just more evidence of the sheer desperation of the Dems.

roesch/voltaire said...

Women who act up are always labeled silly; and a great speech does not lead to great governance -- the proof is in the swamp cabinet.

jnseward said...

Everyone is amazed that @potus knows how to tailor his speech to his audience. I've seen many SOTUs in my time. This was the best one ever.

Big Mike said...

Wow! Between Trump's speech, Tim, and Rusty, They got ARM to drop his mask of reasonableness and moderation (and it always was a pretty flimsy mask) to expose the unthinking, hate-filled creature behind it. Well done, the three of you!

ARM, if you want a good reason not to buy GM look no further than those faulty ignition switches that killed at least 124 people and injured another 275. It's called quality control, government style. Did NHTSA drag its feet investigating the problem when the first reports surfaced? Did one part of the government not wish to look too closely at an enterprise where the government was so heavily invested? For me, I'd rather those people were alive and GM was dead. Are there any other people-killing faults in GM cars and trucks? I'd like to think not but in the "Era of Obama" just passed I don't know why someone would take that chance.

MacMacConnell said...

The Dems response to Trump's SOTU with an Dem ex-Governor who was term limited, whose hand picked Dem replacement candidate was defeated by a Repub. A Kentucky ex-Governor whose state Trump won with 63% of the vote. Someone tweeted that the Dem response was a sleep aid commercial.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Big Mike, you are not much better than Tim. Another loser refusing to admit that the world has moved on and left you behind.

You people are the cowards version of Chuck. At least Chuck has the balls to say how much he hates Trump. You people are just bitter losers lurking in the shadows. Buy a fucking Nissan traitorous scum. Preferably, buy a one-way ticket to Japan. Our country doesn't need traitors like you. You have done enough damage already.

Gretchen said...

Did a commentator on CNN actually ask how something would be paid for? Like they ever ever care with Democrats.

Big Mike said...

You people are the cowards version of Chuck. At least Chuck has the balls to say how much he hates Trump.

Why should I hate Trump? I approve of most of his appointments, nearly all of his policies, and his willingness to fire people who don't measure up. I especially like his willingness to hit back and I share his contempt for the newsmedia. You're the odd man out in the United States of America.

There are two Fords in my garage. I bought them because I can trust them not to kill me through sloppy quality control, which is more than I could say for Chevrolets.

F said...

Mark Puckett:

Not all the Dems left early: Joe Manchin (D - WV) made a point of standing on the aisle and shaking DJT's hand on the way out. Manchin was also shown several times standing and applauding what the President said -- especially about saving the coal industry. Sadly, the coal industry will never come back fully -- other energy sources (natural gas, for example) are cleaner and their price is coming down.

Manchin is up for re-election this coming year. He is clearly running away from Democrat talking points. I suspect other Democrat candidates will do the same, continuing the D's slide.

mockturtle said...

Uh-oh! Someone rattled ARM's cage.

RBE said...

The purple revolution + SEIU purple means you are on the Soros One World Team.

Big Mike said...

@tim, before you make your final selection, you may want to watch these three videos made by a crazy British show called "Top Gear":

Killing a Toyota, Part I

Killing a Toyota, Part II

Killing a Toyota, Part III

Here in the US Toyota uses the name "Tacoma" instead of "Hi-Lux." Keep in mind that the crazy car guys on "Top Gear" started with a rusty beater.

The cast of "Top Gear" is gone from the show now, but Jeremy Clarkson and his team have a comparably crazy show on Amazon Prime called "The Grand Tour."

Rusty said...

"Top Gear"
Now on Amazon as "The Grand Tour"
Still the best TV around.


mockturtle said...
Uh-oh! Someone rattled ARM's cage.
Not hard to do.
Pretty unreasonable words for a reasonable man, though. I call somebody thye "C" word and I get deleted.

ARM said;
" AReasonableMan said...
The economic litany that you have believed in for forty years has run this country into the ground and is now in disrepute."

The one the Democrats were always promoting? Yeah. But it didn't take a genius to figure that out. Glad you're finally on board.
Markets rule!

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Rusty said...
Glad you're finally on board.


I am on board with Trump's economic nationalism, but it is a very different train to the one you are on. Your train ran off into a ditch in 2008.

Drago said...

AReasonableMan said...
Rusty said...
Glad you're finally on board.

I am on board with Trump's economic nationalism, but it is a very different train to the one you are on. Your train ran off into a ditch in 2008.


HEY YOU TWO! It's a floor wax AND a desert topping!

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/shimmer-floor-wax/n8625?snl=1

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Big Mike said...
There are two Fords in my garage. I bought them because I can trust them not to kill me through sloppy quality control, which is more than I could say for Chevrolets.


Painfully stupid.

Dan Hossley said...

Trump was very good. The event made him look better. The Dems looked confused with their silly white dresses. The best thing they did was leave immediately after Trump stopped talking.. It is the perfect metaphor for their party.

At one point, Lizzie Warren turned to her seat mate and, I swear, mouthed the phrase "we're so screwed".

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

There is an excellent heirloom tomato called Cherokee Purple. I'm positive that explains Elizabeth Warren's dress. Just sayin'.

Rusty said...

AReasonableMan said...
Rusty said...
Glad you're finally on board.

I am on board with Trump's economic nationalism, but it is a very different train to the one you are on. Your train ran off into a ditch in 2008.

I never brought up Trump.
Markets. That's what I brought up. 40 years of democrat mismanagement is what you brought up.

Big Mike said...

Painfully stupid.

"Stupid" would be a person who buys a car from a company whose quality control killed 124 people.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Stupid would be a person who bases decisions about major purchases on partisan politics. That is sick stupid.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Come now, Ford had the Pinto, after all. Whose hands are truly clean?

As a Chevy truck owner whose friend is a Ford owner, my last 01 Burb went to 281k miles before I sold it last summer, her two, 01 Ranger and ?01-04? Explorer, are falling apart at 100, 150k. Chevy trucks run badly longer than other trucks run.

But each generation GMT seems lesser than its sire. I'm happy with my GMT800 and have no interest in the GMT900 or K2XX.

So, buy used vehs, disappoint everyone in corporate. But create lots of shade tree mechanic jobs. And auto parts jobs. Body, collision shops.

Big Mike said...

@ARM, if the decision to buy or not to buy a GM car -- or any other make -- was made on partisan political grounds then that would be foolish indeed. But if your reading comprehension was higher than zero you might note that my concern over GM quality control issues has nothing to do with politics. In fact, a truly reasonable individual might conclude that your attacks on me, on tim, and on Rusty are entirely partisan in nature.

@Bad LT, congratulations on the longevity of your Chevy Suburban. Best I ever got on a GM vehicle was 93K miles (a Buick Regal). The car was still mechanically sound, but body was shot because I gave it to my son to take to college and it was parked in a lot downwind of a construction site. Sandblasted down to bare metal in spots.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

These are your comments on GM. They are transparently partisan. From thin air you propose a conspiracy between the government and GM. It is not that partisan people are intrinsically stupid. Partisanship makes you stupid.

"if you want a good reason not to buy GM look no further than those faulty ignition switches that killed at least 124 people and injured another 275. It's called quality control, government style. Did NHTSA drag its feet investigating the problem when the first reports surfaced? Did one part of the government not wish to look too closely at an enterprise where the government was so heavily invested? "

Bad Lieutenant said...

Thanks BM, I just bought a 03 Burb with 163k and it's like a new car, I confidently expect to double that. Tight as a drum - wonder if the no sunroof makes that much difference. Very happy. Except when I pay the parking garage;). I don't vouch for all GM, but their full size trucks are real.

(Both of mine, BTW, were made with love in Mexico, at GM's Silao plant. With all respect to Janesville, Arlington et al, there's nothing wrong with Mexican-built cars, except for the unemployment of American workers.)

Back in the 80s, 90s, if you got to 100k in any American car you were doing quite well. Now everybody seems to have learned TQM. And of course parts are so much cheaper, though labor is more. Again, points to the trucks, which are easy to work on and spares are everywhere. A blessing back when I was poor and had to wrench on my own heap.

Also note that I am rocking the older model, 2 gens back. No idea how the new ones are, though the livery drivers seem to like them. Some repairs are awesomely expensive though, on these new ones-the gimcrack computer stuff mostly. $3k for some onboard computer or sensor. For $3000 I could have put a new motor AND a new tranny in the old Burb. For $3000 you could probably buy another truck like mine.

I can't believe that GM put in bad switches purposely. I can believe that USG under Obama gave them a hall pass, while ramming the stick of NHTSA so far up Toyota's and VW's asses they could taste bark. I agree they should have been allowed to go bankrupt, then a Romney/Icahn type could have bought them out and cleaned house.

Big Mike said...

Dear village idiot from wherever you live. Learn to separate things that are different and have different causes. The proximate cause of the GM ignition switch debacle was due to sloppy quality control. In this country we have an agency called NHTSA which is supposed to monitor crash data for anomalous crash causes, investigate, and recommend recalls where needed. That agency jumped all over Toyota for 34 deaths due to sudden acceleration. Why the foot-dragging on GM if not politically motivated?

You have an agile brain and perhaps -- make that probably -- you can come up with some phonus balonus excuse. Maybe someone will buy it. Maybe even you.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

You proposed a conspiracy. There is no evidence for a conspiracy. You provide no evidence for a conspiracy. No one else has found evidence of a conspiracy. You are a partisan hack.

Big Mike said...

No evidence? You mean besides the demonstrable fact that NHTSA did not do its job when faced with piled of dead Chevy drivers? Besides that, you mean?

I may be a partisan, though if so it was the Dumbocrats who made me so. But, you, sir, are a fool and tool.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Again, there is no evidence that the NHTSA colluded with GM, which would be necessary for your conspiracy theory to have any validity. Your very weak argument is that the NTSHA was not all-knowing, not exactly surprising given that there are 40,000 car deaths per year. No doubt many of them are not fully unexplained.

You are just digging a bigger partisan/conspiracy nut hole for yourself.

Jill Hurst-Wahl said...

Purple is also a color associated with the suffrage movement, along with white and yellow.

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