January 21, 2017

It's the "Here our Voice" poster for Women's March on Washington.

That's what it says in the caption at Isthmus, and I can't "here" it, but I c it, and it looks just terrible:



Elsewhere, I'm seeing the poster as "Hear Our Voice," so let me move past the inane caption and look at the poster.

There's just way too much going on. Too many elements. That's a problem in itself. But look at these elements.
The central image is the raised fist. It's black, so one might think: Black Power salute. But the black upraised fist has been used — some say appropriated — in many logos, including this feminist logo:



That central image of one clenched hand is complicated by 3 more clenching hands, which I assume are intended to show solidarity with the fist, but they are grabbing around the wrist, and that grabbing looks more as though the action is impeding and constraining the fist raiser (or doing that choosing method boys used to do with a baseball bat).

The 3 additional hands are fussily individualized, presumably to express diversity. They come in 3 different shades, and the 2 darker of the 3 shades wear nail polish, and the nail polish is of 2 different colors — traditional red and quirky blue — perhaps to indicate different orientations to conventional notions of femininity.

There's also jewelry to speak of diversity: 2 bangles on the darkest hand and a ring on the white-woman hand. The ring is a bit of an arrow, and I get distracted into the question whether that's supposed to symbolize something. The Hillary logo?

Next, there's a fire (or something) behind the hand. Am I supposed to think of the fist as like the Statue of Liberty with the torch?

And then there's a bird getting scorched on top of the flame. Or is that a seal? Or a ghost? I'm guessing a white dove, wings folded, although if I were a bird on top of a flame, I'd spread my wings and get the hell out of there. But this bird — a complacent white person? — just opens its beak and emits a white ray of light.

I guess the "ray of light" represents speech. So then it's white speech, inspired by black power fisting and flame. Too complicated! Are the grasping lady hands in the lower third of the image trying to stop the black fister from scorching the bird or stop the inspiration for the bird to sing?

The busy background only makes the message more alarmingly weird. I see stars and angled stripes in beige-gray tones and that makes me think of a rejection of the American flag. Thinking of flags, and seeing that the lines burst from the circle, I'm reminded of the Japanese war flag from WWII:



The association with wartime Japan is horrible, but that Japanese flag at least stands as an example of great design, which is not what we get from the "Hear our Voice" poster.

Keep it simple. Pick one idea and present it clearly. I can't hear your visual voice if it's all muddled and chaotic.

Ironically, Trump got elected because he framed a very clear — blunt — message and threw it at us time and again. If you want to get the better of Trump, be clear. You're hitting the street today. You risk looking like the forces of chaos just when he's promising order. Your chaotic speech amplifies his.

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hombre said...

The dumbest thing about these silly twits is their support for importing jihadists. Once the Islamists reach critical mass, these harridans will gain a whole new perspective on "grabbing pussy."

Meanwhile, they will continue to be embarrassingly foolish hypocrites who tried to put a grifter and her sexual predator husband in the White House.

YoungHegelian said...

@Original Mike,

MSNBC reports that the organizers estimate 500,000...

Organizers' estimates are, for all rallies & on all sides of the political spectrum, absolutely worthless as crowd size estimates. Unfortunately, the Park Service estimates, which were the best, are now much more circumspect & kept quiet. The Park Service some years back found itself in a shit-storm when some favored constituency raise holy heck when that constituency felt that the Park Service had underestimated their crowds to slight them.

Original Mike said...

Yeah, I'm not impressed they found a couple hundred thousand lefties in DC.

YoungHegelian said...

@Mark,

But the rally speakers keep going on and on and on.

Wait! You're saying that you get a bunched of pissed off, lefty women together en mass, & they're going to talk too much!?

Say, it isn't so! That's just unheard of!

How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb? A hundred. One to screw in the bulb & 99 to write about how the bulb is exploiting the socket.

Anonymous said...

Why are you people here so angry? Why are you letting these millions of women bother you so much?

JML said...

That fist needs a pussy hat.

Original Mike said...

Not bothered in the least HC.

mockturtle said...

Once the Islamists reach critical mass, these harridans will gain a whole new perspective on "grabbing pussy."

Maybe that's what they really want. They may be disappointed that no one has ever grabbed their pussies.

Seriously, though, a shocking number of 'feminists' have married Muslim men and converted to Islam. If that isn't self-defeating, what is? Truly, I don't think they really know what they want.

Mark said...

Was that Madonna gyrating her crotch at the rally just now?

Fen said...

Heh. So we've gone from 2 million to 500k? And even that is just a rosey assessment by event organizers?

Same old bullshit.

I guess it's time for them to fake a few hate crimes.

Anonymous said...

"Maybe that's what they really want. They may be disappointed that no one has ever grabbed their pussies."

Oh I'm quite certain mutual genital grabbing was done by the marchers at one time or another in their lifetimes with their husbands or boyfriends, or same sex partners. And I'm quite sure they enjoyed it. What, ya think only conservatives have sex?

Fen said...

Heidi, why are you so bitter and angry? Calm down. Is it your time of the month? Why do have so much hatred in your heart?

/ typical libtard rhetoric, dealt back

Mark said...

I supposed some of the attendees could go start some half-assed "march" on their own, which would be no different than any other walk across the Mall and down Constitution. But I would think that that is not what people drove many hours to do.

You can't start a real march with the rally still going on. So if I was there, I'd be getting pretty pissed off and want to scream, "Shut the hell up!"

I'd especially not appreciate coming with my daughters to hear Madonna sing, "I'm not your bitch" and "sucking dick" and things like that. Class acts just aren't for some.

Meade said...

"Pink hats for all!"

Hey does anyone know what those pink hats are all about? Mrs. Meade says they must symbolize pointy breasts. I say they symbolize non-viable fetuses.

Mark said...

Watching this really makes you appreciate the Inaugural balls more, even with all their cringe-worthy cocktail lounge acts, doesn't it?

Meade said...

Never mind. I see now — they're Pussy Hats!

Mark said...

Opps, that speaker just slipped up, speaking about resisting for "the next four to eight years."

Mark said...

OK, it is to laugh. They just announced they were going to start the march . . . and then said, "Just one more song."

Meanwhile, if they do now start the march -- two hours later than attendees planned -- we read this from the WashPost -

Just as the march is starting . . . Many demonstrators are heading home after hours of standing, chanting and tromping around the mall area.
At the Judiciary Square Metro station, the lines grow to half a block long at times as people cram into the station waiting for the next train to arrive.

Anonymous said...

Sure hope it doesn't turn into a Pussy Riot!

Meade said...

"What, ya think only conservatives have sex?"

No. But if you want to have GREAT sex, at least one of you will need to be a conservative. It's axiomatic.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the tip Meade, I'll take it under consideration, lol.

Mark said...

Ha, ha, ha, ha.

So after the final song, on comes someone saying they want to go off with a prayer . . . and another song.

MountainMan said...

I was going to write a comment on this foolishness but Fen's is go good I will just endorse it. Saves me some valuable time.

Seeing Red said...

I'm not angry, but I haven't been scorned.

They are so stereotypical.

Lolol

MountainMan said...

I was referring to Fen's comment at 1:35PM.

Mark said...

Nice of the march organizers to keep the oppressed indigenous women (aka Native American) for last -- and by the looks of it, not even planning to allow them to speak at all. But bonus! The rally keeps going and going.

Clayton Hennesey said...

Never mind. I see now — they're Pussy Hats!

I mentioned this yesterday, after yesterday was all tuckered out, that today would be all about the pussyhat.

This is like raccoons treeing themselves: 200,000+ women converge upon Washington, D.C. to identify themselves as their vaginas in the most ridiculous, cartoon way imaginable, far more so than the cruelest patriarchist could ever hope to.

"This is how I want my daughter to remember me, wearing my pussyhat, standing tall for...whatever of those reasons we're here for."

buwaya said...

Granted I have not seen every variant of the female form, probably, though I do have the internet, which is ...so valuable for research, but the "pussy hat" doesnt look much like the part concerned.

Seeing Red said...

And Heide makes fun of bullying.

Those mean girls you giggle about made my daughter's life a living hell.


Ahh, the tolerance and inclusivity just oozes from you, Heide.

Mark said...

Could it start now?? The organizers are now suggesting marching only part of the way.

And once they get to the Ellipse?? What's happening there?

Apparently the plan is to . . . go home.

Sad.

Mark said...

Can someone explain the "pussy hat" to me?

An "ass hat" means that someone has their head up their ass (wearing their ass on their head).

Does a "pussy hat" mean that the wearer has their head up their vagina? Is that it?

Seeing Red said...

They just can't help or hide themselves.

William said...

Too many cymbals subvert the symphony. Too many symbols confuse the poster. This is a symbol of bad poster art. However, I do note that it has attracted quite a few witty and interesting comments. Posters are meant to be noticed, and this has been noticed. Perhaps in some kind of meta way the poster is successful.

Seeing Red said...

Clayton, I wish I could post that to a certain person's Facebook who is there.

The only other thing I can do is print it out and say it to her face if she decides to start shit.

Then lmao.

Life is too damn short for their shit.

What's really hilarious, they are acting so stereotypical. Everything they've fought against.

Mark said...

Maybe the hats mean -- let's make a complete cluster fuck of the "march."

Seeing Red said...

Drudge bwaaaaa


Mostly white women who need therapy after Hillary loss.

Probably well-to-do white women.

Mark said...

OK, to sum up --

They DID have a lot of people come in from out of town. And a LOT of them got there, only to stand in a crowd and find they could not really see or hear anything. Then the rally went on and on. And people started leaving because the march wasn't happening. And then they kind of started a march, but it more resembled people just leaving -- leaving an event where you stood in a crowd, couldn't see or hear much, and that is what you came all this way for.

tcrosse said...

The demonstrations against Trump before he's actually done anything, are just the flip side of the Nobel Peace Prize Obama got before he'd actually done anything.

Achilles said...

Blogger HeideC said...
"Why are you people here so angry? Why are you letting these millions of women bother you so much?"

Their pointless bitching and whining isn't bothering us. The tears are actually quite tasty.

mockturtle said...

These women are about as dignified and effective as some of the early suffragettes. In other words, not at all.

Mark said...

And what did they accomplish with all this angst and sturm und drang?

??

Anything?

Achilles said...

Blogger Mark said...
"OK, to sum up --"

They showed up to have their picture taken for the media to run with their preplanned narrative.

The reason they got so few to show up is because most women are smart enough to understand the people who showed up were just tools from the start.

Fen said...

"What have they accomplished?"

Just further inoculated Trump against legitimate criticism.



Mark said...

Next Friday, there will be another women-led march, which routinely brings in a couple hundred thousand. People from all over will come -- our parish will probably host a couple dozen who will happily sleep on the gym floor. And they will have a REAL march -- from near the White House down Constitution to the Supreme Court.

And it will all be invisible to the Washington Post and other MSM.

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hombre said...

Blogger HeideC said...

"Why are you people here so angry? Why are you letting these millions of women bother you so much?"

"Angry?" "Millions?"

We're having fun here. You must be having a difficult time noticing because you are taking these women seriously. The only serious issue is the cost of any damage they do and of cleaning up the residual rubbish inherent to any gathering of Democrats.

Count again.

Fake news. Fake issues. Fake women.

Ann Althouse said...

Is the message simple? I'm seeing this list of principles, and I don't believe most of the protesters are thinking about these things:

“Accountability and justice for police brutality” and “[dismantling] the gender and racial inequities within the criminal justice system”
Freedom from sexual violence
Ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment to the Constitution that would guarantee equal protection based on gender
Affirming that all domestic and caretaking work is work, even if unpaid, and that women — especially women of color — bear the brunt of that burden
“The right to organize and fight for a living minimum wage” for all workers, labor protections for undocumented and migrant workers, and “solidarity with sex workers’ rights movements”
Comprehensive reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights, and immigrant and refugee rights

Ann Althouse said...

The first 2 items on that list radically conflict with each other.

Do women really want gender equity in the stamping out of all sexual violence? Wouldn't that require the imprisonment of many more women?

Alex said...

I prefer the standard hammer & sickle.

Alex said...

Do women really want gender equity in the stamping out of all sexual violence? Wouldn't that require the imprisonment of many more women?

Feminists say that women are incapable of sexual violence towards men due to not possessing the upper body strength and lack of penis for penetration.

Alex said...

Behold the Pussy Hat Brigades. I'm sure the average woman in the Midwest is in total solidarity with this jackassery.

Alex said...

It's the usual laundry list of 'demands' from the Bolshevik Worker's Party. Nothing new since 1981!

Anonymous said...

Across the country, the numbers of marchers will be in the millions. There are marches in numerous cities. Chicago alone is estimated to have been 250,000. In total, yes, easily over a million. DC was expected to have 200,000, there were as much as 500,000. That's already 750,000 for those only two cities. Deny all you want, it's happening.


Clayton Hennesey said...

Across the country, the numbers of marchers will be in the millions. There are marches in numerous cities. Chicago alone is estimated to have been 250,000. In total, yes, easily over a million. DC was expected to have 200,000, there were as much as 500,000. That's already 750,000 for those only two cities. Deny all you want, it's happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lampoon_Lemmings

"We are lemmings, we are crazies..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuBhwEgi8qU

Quayle said...

"cross the country, the numbers of marchers will be in the millions."

And the message is....what.....?

Dr Weevil said...

I just read 255 comments, and no one saw what I thought was obvious: the picture looks to me like a white man, an Asian woman, and a Hispanic woman are trying to stop a black man from setting fire to a dove. That is, it looks totally racist, and the only thing that makes it not look Alt-Right is that the Asian and Hispanic women are on the white man's side. It definitely looks creepily anti-black.

cf said...

I have a bit to say about this:

1. It is what I call "FussyButt," a Pattern Distortion of thinking most often found in the Female Mind.

I just tolerate those women when I have to be around them. Carl Jung talked about the qualities of a female with too unbalanced an anima/animus, having too much female in her. One result is she is petty and another she is off-the-point in her complaints.

Sounds like these marchers to me. (They lost and they have missed some boat and they are pissed? Grow up.)

2. Artistic style: This is no Soviet/Nazi poster art style, it is just flat busy. They should have asked Shepard Fairey to do it, he is the one that BAM! sends the message -- maker of the Obama HOPE poster, and the ubiquitous OBEY (with giant). I think I must have linked to this poster of his before on this blog, but I want to again,

http://www.outer-borough.com/artists/FAIR/FAIR_sp_Tyrant.html

because his Boot poster shows what America has been feeling like under Obama and Hillary, the Deplorables needing to be crushed. Fairey really captured the times of the last 8 years excellently, even it is creepy at the same time. Was he not womanly enough to do the image?
And all of that makes me say Thank God Trump won.

I do believe that all the peoples of America will thrive in these next several years, already the boat is lightening and lifting. I do believe and hope and pray that these women who feel besieged and righteous can find peace and understanding and new hope for themselves in these years ahead.

[I demonstrated against Reagan when he helicoptered into a shopping mall parking lot in Riverside, CA back in the day. My staunch environmentalist fighter boyfriend and me stood with our little signs alone in the packed-full expanse of Reagan supporters. I could not imagine what they were thinking. but I had no fear, i knew i was safe and It was fine to express our piece among them.

Only years later did I realize I was wrong about Reagan, that whatever bit of correction he did on environmental holdings and law were very small compared to the great good he did for the world in so many other areas. It is wholesome to come to see where our idealogy has steered us wrong, and correct ourselves.

I pray that what is next for the United States is Good for every person and for the world.

I pray these ladies thrive, each and every one, and that they see Anew, with compassion and fresh discernment, the promise that is at hand Now. godspeed to all.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

HeideC said...
Why are you people here so angry?"

Nobody's angry. More projection from a leftist. We're making fun of those bratty harridans. They're the ones who are spitting venom.

Western women, particularly American women, are the most privileged women in human history and all these harpies can do is bitch about how tough they have it.

wildswan said...

I think there were more people at the Women's march but not as many more as were expected. And it is a huge CF just like the poster. (I see the Confederate flag sideways superimposed on a confused lefty symbol of secretaries united to compare nail polish - with Trump riding it all aloft and sending out a triumphant tweet)

But the way I really look at it all - is I compare it with Wisconsin. The anti-Walker people had larger crowds and demos and support from the media. That didn't translate into larger vote totals. Walker won every election or recall and all his legislative battles. Trump will do the same. That's because the left simply cannot understand the issue. Safe streets, good schools, jobs. It's simple but it's too hard for the kind of women who would go out wearing their vagina on their head - symbolizing how some women can be got to do anything if they think it's fashionable.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

"it's happening."

And so what? They'll go home and Trump will be signing off on EOs Monday morning.

Honestly, I don't know what they're doing except shouting at the clouds.

Oh, wait, I know - they're making themselves feel good and really important. Virtue signaling.

Quaestor said...

sunsong wrote: Looks to me like the beginning of a movement, an important one...

Quaestor hosts a similar movement each morning and considers them important.

Darrell said...

I can't see where it says "Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States."

Alex said...

The whole thing falls apart with feminist intersectionality insanity.

tcrosse said...

Impotent rage.

Freeman Hunt said...

"What are you marching for?"
"Well, if you don't know, I'm certainly not going to tell you."

Rusty said...

It's a liberal love fest, Althouse, It doesn't have to make sense.


Paco Wové said...

"a fractious committee with many competing factions."

Kind of like Steve Sailer's Coalition of the Fringes in action.

Mark said...

"it's happening."

I'll grant you something happened in D.C. at the "Women's March," but it wasn't a march (see my many comments above).

And I'll repeat my question -- To what end? What exactly has been accomplished?

Yeah, sure, you're here, you're queer -- so what?

TheThinMan said...

What's the tonic priority when offering someone college admission or a job? Black, Hispanic, white then Asian. Now look at the order of the fists from top down in that sign.

Seeing Red said...

1. Means more female teacher rapists go to prison.

ITA

Also equalize divorce laws. Men need fairness.

Seeing Red said...

DC NYC and Chicago

And people can't understand why Evita lost?

Seeing Red said...

So, if the weather in Chicago was in the 20s and snow instead of 60s and beautiful.....

TheThinMan said...

What's the priority when offering someone college admission or a job? Black, Hispanic, white then Asian. Now look at the order of the fists from top down in that sign.

HT said...

HeideC said...

nn,
No married women who are mothers will be at the Women's March? Who knew?!
1/21/17, 10:34 AM
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TONS of married women with children at the march!!!! More than at the inauguration! It was amazing.



HeideC said...

Uh oh Trump will be petulant today. There may be more people at the Women's March in DC than were at the Inauguration. Yikes.
1/21/17, 10:39 AM

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Soooo many - can't wait for the side by side photos!


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YoungHegelian said...

Here's my prediction: the rioting/violent protests will continue on Saturday during the Women's March.

Here's why -- today the protests were hampered by bad weather & the presence of a large, hostile crowd. Mostly, the violent protests occurred where the crowds weren't. On Saturday, the crowd will be "friendly" (i.e. not given to beating these clowns up if given the chance), mostly female, & large enough to be used as cover. Also, the weather will be better.

I imagine the DC cops are thinking the same thing & are keeping their guys on alert until at least Sunday.

We'll see if I'm right or not. It's just hard to tell the future, ya know?
1/20/17, 7:20 PM
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1) yesterday was not really bad weather! It was overcast and drizzled some.

2) The Latest: Police say no arrests at Women’s March in D.C.

3) I guess it is hard to tell the future. You know.

Darrell said...

The beauty of compulsory left-wing indoctrination in schools. You can always scrape up a million useful idiots.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

HT said...
2) The Latest: Police say no arrests at Women’s March in D.C.


Not unexpected but with half a million or more marching a good effort.

damikesc said...

Why focus on the trivial design issues of a symbol of no importance rather than the massive turnout?

I'm curious what makes either option of any importance.

A large protest about nothing where nothing has been done seems unimportant, no matter how many people were involved.

Gahrie said...

Next Friday, there will be another women-led march

Trump should show up for this......

Gahrie said...

Why are you people here so angry? Why are you letting these millions of women bother you so much?

Because I'm still waiting for my sandwich........

chickelit said...

That last comment needs a soundtrack

Martin said...

That poster is very Italy-1938ish.

kentuckyliz said...

I know why the flaming bird sings.

viator said...

Very nice Marxist poster in the style of CPUSA, SWP, and the good ol' Soviet Union.

JamesB.BKK said...

These are women carrying out compliance and governance activities in and around DC created by government so that there would be interest in continuing to pay universities for degrees in preparation for carrying out compliance and governance activities, so as to allow continuing transfers to fellow travelers at the universities.

JamesB.BKK said...

"Not unexpected but with half a million or more marching a good effort."

How can you have arrests when no monkeys show up to throw bricks and fecal matter on the participants?

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