ADDED: In his statement, which you can watch at the link, Wolfe says he doesn't think protests, like the hunger strike, are the right way to effect change. We should respect each other enough to have a conversation, he says, but that's not what is happening. But he takes "full responsibility," he says, apparently hoping that the resignation will be enough: "Use my resignation to heal and start talking again."
The football team really is more powerful than the university president:
The Mizzou Family stands as one. We are united. We are behind our players. #ConcernedStudent1950 GP pic.twitter.com/fMHbPPTTKl— Coach Gary Pinkel (@GaryPinkel) November 8, 2015AND: A threat to commit slow suicide compelled powerful authority to resign. What will that inspire?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 300 of 300Blacks have had enough. They are taking back their power. Racism is NOT defensible, and racist acts are inexcusable. God bless them in their efforts!
The team was four and five. They should have asked the football coach to resign instead.
UM's Chancellor just resigned. I imagine he'll have no problem finding another job, but that the soon to be mass exodus out of Mizzou will bring a lot of problems. All the administrators realized they would be next. Gary Pinkel is now saying he wasn't aware that supporting his football players meant that he was asking for White's resignation. This is getting delicious.
This is a terrible precedent. One of the student demands was to fund mandatory diversity training, admit white privilege, and to fund more social justice warrior positions. What is this? A communist show trial. The Pol Pot regime in America?
So using the phrase, "Social Justice Warrior" means you're a bigot?
This means two things:
1) SJWs have become so hated that SJWs no longer want to be identified as SJWs
2) their playing of the "bigot" card means you are on target and hurting them.
Kill them all. Cut off the head, lace the corpse with garlic, salt the earth and then take off and nuke the site from orbit.
SJWs are the new Nazi, the new Red Guard. Show them no mercy.
AReasonableMan said...
I think your failure to address one fucking question
You still haven't explained how not hating sports requires someone to get drunk and not study. Maybe you should worry about answering that before asking new questions.
I meant Wolfe, not White.
Rick said...
You still haven't explained how not hating sports requires someone to get drunk and not study.
No one said it did.
Now, instead of ducking the issues, why not address them?
Has anyone seen a pic of the poo swastika? Was it investigated by the police? Were there security cameras in the building? I'm beginning to doubt it ever existed.
jr565 said...
"We are to assume something is true merely because it's uttered by someone."
Absolutely not! We are to assume it's true only if it's uttered by a black person, or someone from another sufficiently aggrieved victim class, or if it makes some white man, or white men in general, look bad.
The Chancellor is resigning after getting a letter from 9 Deans. He is also getting a cushy job as "Coordinator of University Research"
Mebbe the Governor will commit Seppuku to trump them all. At least he'd show some sack.
Two prescient articles for the left (and people like sunsong) to read:
http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/09/mizzou-and-yale-show-why-its-time-to-burn-the-universities-to-the-ground/
http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/22/seven-liberal-pieties-that-only-the-right-still-believes/
You guys are actually the villains, don't you know.
Reminds me of the tail end of the 60's when my parents said they wouldn't pay my tuition at schools where they had burned down buildings. That actually limited my options quite a bit. Then the 70's came along and they stopped caring. My brothers went to those schools, smoked a lot of dope et al. and are still paying for it.
Pinkel is as good as done, I'd guess. He gambled supporting his players. If he didn't, his recruiting career would have been over. But now, I'm pretty sure he's lost the support of most of his boosters. You can't continue if you don't have boosters either.
The Tweets of ConcernedStudents 1950, as they kept student journalists away from their "camp" on the University grounds:
ConcernedStudent1950 @CS_1950 35m35 minutes ago
We truly appreciate having our story told, but this movement isn't for you.
ConcernedStudent1950 @CS_1950 36m36 minutes ago
Black people and our true allies, we love you and will continue to fight.
ConcernedStudent1950 @CS_1950 37m37 minutes ago
If you have a problem with us wanting to have our spaces that we create respected, leave!
25 retweets 39 likes
nedStudent1950 @CS_1950 38m38 minutes ago
It's typically white media who don't understand the importance of respecting black spaces.
This is their thinking. These are the students trying to make demands on a whole University. They seem not to really get this rights and equality thing.
Sunsong says blacks are taking back their power by racializing every aspect of academia. Hope it works better than when they conquered the "N-word" by constantly calling each other niggers.
David Burge @iowahawkblog 12 May 2014
If I understand college administrators correctly, colleges are hotbeds of racism and rape that everyone should be able to attend.
More related tweets:
Dylan Byers @DylanByers 6m6 minutes ago
The woman who tells cameraman he can’t be there & asks for “muscle” to remove him is Mizzou Assistant Professor of Mass Media @melissaclick
ConcernedStudent1950 @CS_1950 12m12 minutes ago
We ask for no media in the parameters so the place where people live, fellowship, & sleep can be protected from twisted insincere narratives
The protesters want to create a no-media safe space IN PUBLIC and a Media Prof is helping them kick out student journalists.
Get rid of the football team. Universities have no business being in the business of semi-Pro sports.
Joe said...
Get rid of the football team. Universities have no business being in the business of semi-Pro sports.
Hallelujah.
Michael K: What we are seeing is a group of people who do not belong in a university and who are responding to imagined slights and fantasy stimuli.
This.
But having an excess of in-over-their heads, confused, resentful, and thus easily manipulated kids is exactly what you want in your cadres, for maximum efficacy when you're on a Cultural Revolution destructo-binge. The crushing amounts of debt a lot of these hapless infants have been suckered into probably helps, too.
Here is the YouTube of the Concerned Students and (white) Admin and Professors harassing the student journalist on the public square.
"Taking back their power" indeed.
They are creating a "Safe Space" in the center of the campus square.
Wolfe is a totally gutless pussy for caving in to this bullshit.
"Now, instead of ducking the issues, why not address them?"
Are you still on this ? Jeeeeezuss !
"Nor do German universities feel the need to entertain the fat fucks who have no interest in being at university."
Do you know anything about German universities ? For Chrissakes !
Do you know about cramming after no study for three years ?
You are showing pathology that looks like weak Humanities behavior. Man up !
"But, why should a university pander to this kind of student? "
Because they get As and have successful careers and donate buildings in later years ?
What the fuck are you, an adjunct English instructor ?
AReasonableMan said...
Now, instead of ducking the issues, why not address them?
You first.
AReasonableMan said...
No one said it did.
Of course you did. You concluded people are only interested in getting drunk and spurn academics based on the sole evidence they don't hate college sports.
We both know you were being an asshole and you're trying to avoid admitting it. But why would anyone respond to an asshole's demands as if this were a discussion between reasonable people?
Rick said...
Of course you did. You concluded people are only interested in getting drunk and spurn academics based on the sole evidence they don't hate college sports.
Where?
So, either this is a victory for progressive denigration of individual dignity a la "social justice", or an overt and covert demonstration of raw power over anyone who resists the State-established pro-choice cult.
Michael K said...
Man up !
Piss off, you fat fuck. Sailing isn't a real sport. It's a sport for fat old guys who didn't make the high school football and basketball teams. The Z-team.
retired: Reminds me of the tail end of the 60's when my parents said they wouldn't pay my tuition at schools where they had burned down buildings.
From the same era: one of my uncles offered to pay for college for all 5 of his kids, as long as they were studying for a "real" degree. (He had nothing against studying liberal arts degrees like history, as long as it involved serious scholarship. Not much in the way of Angry Studies in those days.) One of my cousins (a proto-SJW, God rest her soul) wanted to pursue a degree in social work, and he flatly refused to fund a penny. So, no college; she had to (and did) make a living in a non-prestigious but useful and respectable occupation. She still managed to get into all sorts of shitlib stupidities, but my uncle's wise refusal probably saved her from being a complete menace to society.
What does the 1950 mean?
It's the year black students were first admitted to the University.
Their twitter feed is also retweeting pro-$15 minimum wage protest stuff.
So this is all the same movement as it was last year, when the SEIU was supporting $15/hour protests at McDonalds and then using the same protestors later at night in protest of Eric Garner's death.
There's obviously a "follow the money" situation here. I have a hard time believing someone yelling at a student president and another yelling at a group (that guy, by the way, was removed from campus already) is enough to try to bring down a University President via a hunger strike. They are organized.
Joe: "Get rid of the football team. Universities have no business being in the business of semi-Pro sports."
Universities were in the business of football long before the business of football became such big business.
What would have been the most appropriate time for universities to jettison football (other sports?) and what would the criteria for exiting the endeavor have been?
AReasonableMan said...
Where?
At 1:56, and again at 4:26. If I were you I wouldn't just pretend not to remember what I wrote. Then again if I were you then you wouldn't be an asshole.
And, while we are on the topic of sport, the fat losers who sit and watch college games each week are not participating in sport, they are the marks of one wing of the entertainment-industrial-complex. People who actually like sport find a pickup game or go for a run or a swim of just about anything other than sit on their fat behinds and watch television.
Rick said...
Of course you did. You concluded people are only interested in getting drunk and spurn academics based on the sole evidence they don't hate college sports.
Neither of the posts you mention support this claim of yours. I was in fact mocking you specifically, because you are too stupid to engage in a conversation.
My focus is on the inordinate power of the athletic department, which was displayed in all its inane glory today with the resignation of the two top administrators at MU.
ARM: "People who actually like sport find a pickup game or go for a run or a swim of just about anything other than sit on their fat behinds and watch television."
LOL
People who "actually like sport" would never spend any time watching others compete in the sports that they like.
Oh no. Of course not.
Why would anyone who likes sport actually watch sports on TV?
I'll have you know that garage mahal loooooves his Green Bay Packers and he was a wondrously talented middle-school football hero!
So there!
Later ARM: "My focus is on the inordinate power of the athletic department, which was displayed in all its inane glory today with the resignation of the two top administrators at MU."
Earlier self-refuting ARM: "People who actually like sport find a pickup game or go for a run or a swim of just about anything other than sit on their fat behinds and watch television."
Where, pray tell, is the "inordinate power of the athletic department" angle in that little missive one wonders?
So much for "focus".
On the other hand, that is about the level of chemically-driven lack of focus we've come to expect from AReasonableMeltdown.
AReasonableMan said...
Neither of the posts you mention support this claim of yours.
Of course they do. The only fact you knew was that I don't hate college sports and based solely on that fact you reached those conclusions. I realize logical thought is new to you but even you should be able to follow this.
I am amused you think insulting people is a conversation though. Not surprised, amused. It fits right in with the rest of your personality: and asshole who thinks he's reasonable and an idiot winger who thinks he's a moderate.
Rick, let's face it, you are a jock-sniffer. You blow your money on the college team's sweatshirts and caps and you never miss a game. College sport is a religion for you. Meanwhile, in China, some 18 year old just built a machine or developed an algorithm that will replace you at your place of employment, cheaper, faster, better. That new device could have been developed at a US university but the money was spent on a new sports arena and the undergrads are too hung over to contribute to any advanced research program.
White's are dying off faster these days because they, and their dumbass parents, bought into the party university ethos and they never finished their degrees, never reached their full potential and even now can't recognize that they've been conned.
ARM- so you think the University Chancellor should not have resigned?
ARM:
So in your world there are two types of people: those who agree with you and jock sniffers. Nuanced! I am impressed with you determination though. Most people get past assuming everyone who doesn't agree with them can only believe the opposite at around ninth grade, yet you've held onto it for three extra years. Congratulations!
MayBee said...
ARM- so you think the University Chancellor should not have resigned?
Of course not. He should have sacked the football coach and disbanded the program. The fact that he didn't tells you where the power lies.
Can you imagine the thoughts going through the minds of all the presidents of universities with Division I football or basketball teams this evening? Nothing good will come out of this for the core mission of the university, creating and distributing knowledge.
ARM: "White's are dying off faster these days because they, and their dumbass parents, bought into the party university ethos and they never finished their degrees, never reached their full potential and even now can't recognize that they've been conned."
Wow.
Tough night for garage.
ARM: "Nothing good will come out of this for the core mission of the university, creating and distributing knowledge."
Perhaps you should check your privilege white boy. Or so I've been told by the lefties who, apparently, are ALL about creating and distributing "knowledge".
Such as, you can change your sex simply by wishing it away!
That is some "heavy" "knowledge" being laid down there.
Of course not. He should have sacked the football coach and disbanded the program. The fact that he didn't tells you where the power lies.
Can you imagine the thoughts going through the minds of all the presidents of universities with Division I football or basketball teams this evening? Nothing good will come out of this for the core mission of the university, creating and distributing knowledge.
I agree with this, but do you not hold the professors and students participating in the protest responsible at all?
I think I'm on the same page as ARM on this. And pretty much anyone who watches college football on TV is complicit to some degree as well. Your attention/viewership drives the advertising revenue which feeds the out-of-control problem. It's going to take a nationwide spread of this incident to prove it.
Piss off, you fat fuck
New Law: "Callahan's Law"
As an online discussion at Althouse grows longer, the probability of ARM turning classless and showing his pissy side approaches 1.
I don't know that I agree with that, chickelit. Let's say it the protests were something more...white. The white players want to protest against the false accusations of rape on campus. Or anti- illegal immigration. The admin and coaches would have no trouble telling the team to straighten up and fly right.
But we've created a society that is afraid to tell minorities their complaints are bullshit. How much push back does the Mike Brown narrative get? And look how much these TWO minor incidents have gotten on this campus. Nobody dares to tell them to buck up, buttercup. People aren't always nice but deal with it. Going on a hunger strike over this is wacky. Instead, everyone has to act like yes! this is horrible! Enough to make a sane man go on a hunger strike! We must change because we are bad!
People are afraid of looking racist if they tell these groups they are wrong or misguided.
Lots of people stopped watching the Oscars because they became too political. Why the hell not college football -- at least some teams? WTF is so sacred about it?
I welcome this political football.
I love college football. I don't really want to see it ruined, like so many things.
Plus, the SJWs hate football. I'm not on their bandwagon.
I think you misunderstand me, MayBee. The power to counter these players and these coaches and these out-of-control sports programs which lead to travesties like this -- this power is in the hands of the viewers and fans who watch and feed the beast.
Of course the President should not have resigned. He showed no spine. I hesitate to call him a man. On the other hand, I do not know what other mitigating factors were at play and so it's hard to walk in his shoes. Was someone threatening to fire him behind the scenes?
MayBee said...I love college football. I don't really want to see it ruined, like so many things.
Plus, the SJWs hate football. I'm not on their bandwagon.
Well, there's no reason to nuke all teams -- just this one -- and only until they grow up. Do you have ties to Missouri?
I Callahan said...
As an online discussion at Althouse grows longer, the probability of ARM turning classless and showing his pissy side approaches 1.
Did you count the number of provocative posts from Michael K before I responded? I believe I was a model of probity. Besides, he's basically a masochist and craves being beaten. I'm performing a public service.
Plus, the SJWs hate football. I'm not on their bandwagon.
Well, I dislike SJWs who applaud what this team accomplished off the field. I'm not on their bandwagon. They "won" this round. There is no reason to reward them.
MayBee said...
I love college football. I don't really want to see it ruined, like so many things.
I think that ship has sailed. Too much money and power in an arena that generally doesn't have that much money or power.
Do you have ties to Missouri?
No, and I think the powers that be should have told the coach to get the players to straighten up. But people are afraid to do that with "black causes". As I said, if the white Christian players were protesting the existence of planned parenthood on campus, I've no doubt the administration would have dared to contradict them. But people don't treat these BLM causes with enough respect to dare to disagree with them anymore. They've created a bunch of people who can't stand to be told they are overreacting.
But you said "some teams" so I wasn't sure what you meant by that.
It's not a large sample, but I know no one who fits ARM's dichotomy, and dozens who violate it. Among my friends and relations, there is in fact a near 1.0 correlation between watching sports and playing them.
I and most of my friends neither play sports nor watch them, but those of my relatives who "who actually like sport" not only "find a pickup game or go for a run or a swim", they do more than that (my 58-year-old brother plays organized basketball several times a week and one of my 30+ nephews was on three soccer teams last time I checked), but they also "sit on their [not very] fat behinds and watch [sports on] television". Players and fans are the same people. ARM needs to get out more.
AReasonableMeltdown: "Did you count the number of provocative posts from Michael K before I responded?"
The real "problem" becomes clear.
ARMeltdown is focused on his superficial quantitative assessment, whereas Callahan is pursuing a much more appropriate and value-addeed qualitative assessment.
I think that ship has sailed. Too much money and power in an arena that generally doesn't have that much money or power.
It's made it with a lot of money and power for decades. But it is interesting to see the protest groups get their hooks into the athletes on both the collegiate and pro level.
Did you look closely at the photo of the activists blocking the parade car? The one where they're wearing their puerile black fists in the air on their shirts?
Do you recall the athletes in the 1968 Olympics raising their fists in solidarity with God knows what?
Do recall the horrific speeches at the Oscars where SJWs grandstanded on pet issues?
What is the appropriate response? If you're leary of tuning out and turning off, at least change channels!
If the school is forced to grovel and admit "white privilege" then minority students should have to confess "black entitlement." As for mandatory diversity classes, those are just the American version of Pol Pot reeducation classes. All right-thinking people should shun them. Or, if he has the grades, go to a better school.
Oh I won't watch them play.
I'll watch my team, where I believe the coach would tell his team to focus on playing and school. To not engage in the short-term temptation of pleasure, but focus on the big goal. That's what I want in a college football program.
The appropriate response now is to criticize what happened. Instead, I fear, CNN et al with comment on it, but try really hard not to sound too judgementy.
Oh, and the other appropriate response is to not send your kids to Missou. Or move to Missouri.
Drago said...
The real "problem" becomes clear.
Wonderful ARM is focused on his superficial quantitative assessment, whereas boring old Callahan is pursuing a much more appropriate and value-addeed qualitative assessment.
A funny and vaguely erudite post. I'm tempted to mention monkeys and typewriters, but why spoil the moment.
this is from The Atlantic., and it's perfect. It's about Yale, but the point is the truth:
Here’s one of the ways that white men at Yale are most privileged of all: When a white male student at an elite college says that he feels disempowered, the first impulse of the campus left is to show him the extent of his power and privilege. When any other students say they feel disempowered, the campus left’s impulse is to validate their statements. This does a huge disservice to everyone except white male students. It’s baffling that so few campus activists seem to realize this drawback of emphasizing victim status even if college administrators sometimes treat it as currency.
Here’s one of the ways that white men at Yale are most privileged of all: When a white male student at an elite college says that he feels disempowered, the first impulse of the campus left is to show him the extent of his power and privilege. When any other students say they feel disempowered, the campus left’s impulse is to validate their statements. This does a huge disservice to everyone except white male students. It’s baffling that so few campus activists seem to realize this drawback of emphasizing victim status even if college administrators sometimes treat it as currency.
But wait, that's not right at all. Because in addition to pointing out the "white privilege," punitive action is demanded. In the case of "others," not only is validation in order but monetary reward is in order as well.
I once interviewed for a faculty position at UVA but was told, off the record, "we'd hire you but we need to hire a woman or a minority." That was discrimination, and probably illegal.
"hey who wants to help me get this reporter out of here !I need some muscle here!"
LOL.
Let me catch my breath.
LOL.
I once interviewed for a faculty position at UVA but was told, off the record, "we'd hire you but we need to hire a woman or a minority." That was discrimination, and probably illegal.
I think the situation like the one at Mizzou is to make this happen more often, not less. Don't you? Forcing more diversity hiring practice = guaranteed jobs slots for the "marginalized" we were hearing about today.
"Later ARM: "My focus is on the inordinate power of the athletic department, which was displayed in all its inane glory today with the resignation of the two top administrators at MU.""
Lots of truth there, though if you enfeeble the athletic department then Blacks are left with no power whatever on most campuses. That aside, lots of fun watching the Left crater.
ARM as he really is, his first post:
AReasonableMan said...
By and large it will be the same idiots who promoted college sports teams over academics who will now whine the most about this particular outcome. Don't feel a lot of sympathy.
ARM as he wishes he was, pretending he's only an asshole in response to others:
AReasonableMan said...
Did you count the number of provocative posts from Michael K before I responded?
"Piss off, you fat fuck. Sailing isn't a real sport. It's a sport for fat old guys who didn't make the high school football and basketball teams. The Z-team."
I think you are going to have a heart attack. Tiddlywinks does not count as a sport dipshit.
You are unhinged on this. I wonder why ?
" I believe I was a model of probity. Besides, he's basically a masochist and craves being beaten. I'm performing a public service."
Just unhinged. I have played competitive golf and sailing both of which require concentration and a lot more balls than you will ever have. I have played football but was not big enough or fast enough to play at college level. No doubt you have a major record of accomplishment.
Masturbating ? A champ.
Keyboard commando ? Check
Military service ? Not on your life !
College scholarships ?
Of course not.
I only have two for a total of seven years,
Technology ? Of course not ! He is a scholar in victim studies.
All I can claim is programming an IBM 650 when we had to write assembly language.
Talk about fat fucks ! ARM. You are the champ !
MayBee wrote: I think the situation like the one at Mizzou is to make this happen more often, not less. Don't you? Forcing more diversity hiring practice = guaranteed jobs slots for the "marginalized" we were hearing about today.
Well, yes. One of their demands was an across the board 10% increase in minority hiring, regardless of qualification. Didn't the U of Missouri just acquiesce to that demand? Does the coach realize his tacit support of that demand? I doubt he cares. Is there any evidence that the coach cares at all about academic performance? Not saying he doesn't, but there's a good chance he doesn't care -- just sign him better athletes!
When college sports have become so big that they dominate and control the school, it's time to get rid of them. The profitable football and basketball teams should be spun off into IPOs and live on as independent minor league professional teams. As for the rest, downsize athletics - get rid of the athletic scholarships, get rid of the special dorms, and make athletics what it should be - an outlet for hardworking students. I'd start with Missouri which clearly doesn't need a football team.
And the "I wish I could do the protest over" award goes to #melissaclick.
ha-ha!
ARMeltdown is back to his old purposeful misquoting tricks.
Even worse, to no advantage.
Behavior quite befitting an intellectual pretender.
ARMeltdown: " I'm tempted to mention monkeys and typewriters,..."
You just did.
Or hadn't you noticed?
"I'd start with Missouri which clearly doesn't need a football team."
I agree with that. Football supports all those women's sports that are so import to the left.
When college sports have become so big that they dominate and control the school, it's time to get rid of them. The profitable football and basketball teams should be spun off into IPOs and live on as independent minor league professional teams.
I agree with this. It will be interesting to see how this affects other public universities. Perhaps at the UW-Madison, athletics could have the benign role of WARF (Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation) which churns out a lot of money for the UW but doesn't meddle in its politics. But that's not gonna happen. The UW is so deep in tank for SJW causes that I'll be surprised if many of the white male admin types don't start self-flagellation routines and publicly start confessing their "white privilege" lest they be targeted. There is a loud and vocal group there which tried to do that to the police force.
How did I miss this? It seems that the Obama administration is well-pleased with the students at Mizzou. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/09/white-house-praises-protestors-forcing-university-missouri-president-step/. 438 days to go.
Douglas said...
How did I miss this? It seems that the Obama administration is well-pleased with the students at Mizzou.
Not surprising. This was predictable back in 2008 unless you were high on phony hope. I'm starting to think that Trump is the answer.
ARM just might one to something for once. Imagine if the Universities required the same general SAT/ACT scores and GPAs for athletic scholarships as for the average admitted student and required the same academic requirements and rigor as the general students. Otherwise tax the the teams profits as are the professional teams and treat the student as semi-pro players with commensurate pay and benefits. College athletics have long gone from genuine amateur to disguised semi-professional.
What kind of business was happening in the tents they kept away from the public?
It's really depressing that the usually thoughtful and intelligent commentators on this blog do not understand that this turmoil and mindless stupidity is not about political correctness/feminism/racism/BLM/police brutality/rape culture/social justice/safe spaces/trigger warnings or any other other supposed movement on college campuses. It's about hard nosed, radical communists driving their agenda through those manufactured problems and movements using student activists. And, it's being driven on college campuses because that's where many of the hard nose, radical communists live and teach and that's where the inexperienced, uneducated, immature student population can be rabble roused and mobilized through political manipulation. Quit trying to rationalize this crap and offering solutions to false-flag problems, but recognize that this is political subterfuge disguised as social justice warfare. Once everyone gets there, then the solution to the problems becomes glaringly obvious.
Every generation of college students has its Sacred Cause that all students have to show solidarity about.
In the 1960s, it was being against the Vietnam War, of course.
In the 1970s, it was feminism and abortion rights.
And now it's Black Lives Matter.
Everybody on campus has to agree that oh, yes, blacks are being discriminated against all across the country and all students (and faculty) have to stand in solidarity with them.
"College athletics have long gone from genuine amateur to disguised semi-professional."
Not wanting to arouse ARM from his slumber but has anyone else noticed that the football programs at most, if not all universities, became minor league teams for the NFL about the time that the teams became almost all black ?
Take a look.
MayBee: Instead, everyone has to act like yes! this is horrible! Enough to make a sane man go on a hunger strike! We must change because we are bad!
The whole Western world entered Clown World a long time ago, MayBee. (Tossing in some college football just adds a uniquely American touch to this particular go 'round.)
jaydub @11/10/15, 3:09 AM: Exactly, jaydub. It should be obvious by now to everyone that the "professionals" have things primed and ready to go long before the opportunities present themselves. (E.g., how dumb do you have to be to believe that the recent mass hysteria over confederate flags/graves was a spontaneous popular reaction to the Charleston murders?) The SJWs making all the noise couldn't organize their own sock drawers.
The really pathetic thing is the groveling old white guys; the really contemptible thing is the old white guys willingly joining the struggle session mob.
Dr. K,
Not wanting to arouse ARM from his slumber but has anyone else noticed that the football programs at most, if not all universities, became minor league teams for the NFL about the time that the teams became almost all black ?
Take a look.
11/10/15, 7:30 AM
I don't follow.
"I don't follow."
When I was a college student back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, USC had a very good football team and the starting center, a guy whose name I have momentarily forgotten (Laird Willet) won an award called "The Order of the Palm" as the outstanding graduating senior. I think the team had one black player although SC had a black all American in the 1930s. He was a varsity football player and a scholar. We had a lot of those over the years. SC had a very good record of football players graduating, too. Some of them came back after another year or two to do so as they were in the NFL. In recent years, the graduation rate has fallen and it has done the same in all major programs I am aware of.
At the same time, I have noticed that more and more major teams are majority black players. I don't want to say the two trends are related but I think they are. Pro sports are seen by kids in ghetto settings as a way out and black players have gone much farther to build themselves up and get set for such a career. Academic achievement got a lot less important. SC has a regional network that is almost as good as the Harvard New York City network in terms of careers, White kids seems to care about this more.
Anyway, that is what I meant. I will say that black former SC players do very well in southern California as there is also a network of alumni that help these guys a lot with post-NFL careers. It's one reason why SC football alumni are so often at games and around the campus. They are not forgotten when the career is over or never happened.
Here's a quote from an article in the Atlantic about Missouri that makes the same point I try to.
According to The Columbia Missourian, just 7 percent of the overall student body is black, but nearly half of the football team is (60 of 124 players). This likely contributes to a distance between black athletes and “regular” students. What’s more, this disparity can result in a sort of cognitive dissonance for black athletes, who possibly have experienced discrimination directly or have friends who have, and whose talents generate millions of dollars for an institution that ignores those problems.
Oh I see, yes. I do think no one should be admitted without making full academic standards.
Question: could enough spoiled brats as in this case get the U to dump a professor who had enemized the football team? Say a tenured lawprof? If so would that be groovy too?
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