The ballot measure fails, CNN reports.
Yesterday, we talked about the unusual approach that was proposed: "Is there something quite different about the Ohio experiment in marijuana legalization — something wrong?"
AND: Also on this obscure election day, Kentucky elects a Republican governor for only the second time in four decades.
November 3, 2015
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Did you look at who the lt governor is ? Lots of lefty hate. I hope she is OK with the treatment of conservative blacks.
http://www.mattbevin.com/meet_jenean
Well, they'll stone you when you're tryin' to be so good
They'll stone you just like they said they would
They'll stone you when you're tryin' to go home
They'll stone you when you're there all alone
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned
Well, they'll stone you when you're walkin' on the street
They'll stone you when you're tryin' to keep your seat
They'll stone you when you're walkin' on the floor
They'll stone you when you're walkin' to the door
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned
They'll stone you when you're at the breakfast table
They'll stone you when you are young and able
They'll stone you when you're tryin' to make a buck
They'll stone you and then they'll say, good luck
Yeah but I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned
Well, they'll stone you and say that it's the end
Then they'll stone you and then they'll come back again
They'll stone you when you're riding in your car
They'll stone you when you're playing your guitar
Yes but I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned, alright
Well, they'll stone you when you are all alone
They'll stone you when you are walkin' home
They'll stone you and then say, they're all brave
They'll stone you when you're send down in your grave
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned
--Bob Dylan
This sure is, I got that-a old crazy shit
From round the corner you know
The homeboys and the brothers be slangin' this shit
But anyway you over there singin' some shit
Talkin' 'bout everybody must get stoned
I don't know but that shit sounds good to me
Hit the joint, up the bomb, take a puff
Till you just can't get enough of the skunk
A punk nigga named Doe wanna take control
But the primasso puff on the indo
Let me take it in then I let it out
One of you motherfuckers pass the barred owl
Peace to the niggaz in all the Buddha spots
Slangin' fat bags o' weed and runnin from the cops
I hit the leno then pass it on
To the cypha' of dreadlocks gettin' stoned
Roll a fat joint, twist it at the end
'Cos I get high with a little help from my friends
Everybody must get stoned
I said everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
I said everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
And everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
And everybody must get stoned
Hit the blunt of the bong, take your dope
Now my head's in a cloud of smoke and no joke
Caught the up-tight motherfuckers puttin' me down
'Cos I talk about the green shit in every town
You right in front of me, I can't see ya
I'm blind and faded and I got the G-rock
And everything's gonna be alright
When I pass that toochi from the left-hand side
Niggaz is havin' a good time tonight
Roll it up, hold it up, pass me the fucking light
Indo or the home-grown
Light it up, everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
You know how we talk the talk
We say, stoned is the way of the walk
You know how we talk the talk
We say, stoned is the way of the walk
You know how we talk the talk
We say, stoned is the way of the walk
You know how we talk the talk
We say, stoned is the way of the walk
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
Everybody must get stoned
--Cypress Hill
Ha, good for Ohioans. It's nice to see not everyone will sell out their state for some imagined revenue boon.
So if the producers were to collide on price, seems unlikely DOJ would take action, given their conduct is illegal under federal law. Could one successfully bring a private antitrust claim under the Sherman Act? Or are they immune from antitrust scrutiny because they are a criminal enterprise? Interesting legal questions.
WE finally got one right with Bevin, although he's not my first choice. But he's going to be better than the D. A drug addict would be better than a D.
"Kentucky elects a Republican governor for only the second time in four decades."
I don't understand. I thought the GOP was so backward no one votes for them anymore.
Plus CNN tells us in the very first sentence that the new gov is "controversial." Didn't Kentuckians get the message?
"Did you look at who the lt governor is ? Lots of lefty hate. I hope she is OK with the treatment of conservative blacks."
Matt Bevin reached out to several conservative black ministers as well campaigning heavily in Louisville's west end which is mostly black so he might have exceeded expectations in getting the black vote. It has been a good day for Kentucky with other young promising Republicans getting elected on the down ballet too.
Carnifex said...
WE finally got one right with Bevin, although he's not my first choice. But he's going to be better than the D. A drug addict would be better than a D.
11/3/15, 10:27 PM
So, Conway's brother?
Drew Curtis would have been the most interesting choice.
Also, the Ky Democrat that was expected to be Rand Paul's opponent in the 2016 Senate race was defeated sidetracking his career.
In the Ky election only two Democrats got elected on the down ballet, Andy Beshear the current Governor's son and Alison Lundren Grimes not to be confused with the good Allison, Republican Allison Ball who was elected treasurer.
Houston, where I live, voted against the equal right ordinance. The bullying and bigotry of our lesbian mayor wasn't enough to get it passed by the people.
Ohio also voted against future ballot-initiated monopolies. Glad of that, and glad the marijuana monopoly failed. It was the brain child of a Democrat political operative who worked for our former governor- Ted Strickland. He saw the potential for the profit of this approach when the casino monopolies did the same thing under Strickland. Vice monopolies. I am really having trouble telling the difference between the mob and the Democratic party these days. What's next? Prostitution monopolies?
Good. That means Ohio is dope free now.
Boom shaka-lakka-lakka! Boom shaka-lakka-laka!
Another Chicago election: the tea party is "dead", but keeps electing people.
So apparently attempting to subpoena churches is not a winning strategy. Who knew?
Anyway, the Democrats consistently underestimate just how socially conservative blacks and Hispanics are.
Trying to sell marijuana legalization as some kind of solution to state budgetary woes always seemed like a pretty dumb idea to me. The better argument is that marijuana is a relatively low-harm drug, and there are urgent mattes to direct limited police and judicial resources.
Plus Houston voted down males in girls locker rooms and Kentucky elected a Republican governor with a black Tea Party Lt Governor. Obama sure has the pulse of this country stimulated.
The gays are starting to realize that the "transgenders" are hijacking their agenda. Why should boys in girls locker rooms be an issue for gays ? They are noticing. LGBT doesn't really make a single profile. Typical Democrat lobby with multiple agendas.
I saw the ballot initiatives. Very confusing and complex. They did a test and had people tell them their goals (i.e. legalizing pot) and then had them read the ballot and say what they would do. 9 out of 10 got it wrong.
Houston, where I live, voted against the equal right ordinance. The bullying and bigotry of our lesbian mayor wasn't enough to get it passed by the people.
Thank God for some sanity out of Houston.
And OH was proposing an idiotic bill. I'm happy that both a bad bill failed and that annoying potheads are sad.
It's a strange thing when everyone is voting on Election Day but Wisconsin. For a while there it seemed like there was a vote every month here.
They did a test and had people tell them their goals (i.e. legalizing pot) and then had them read the ballot and say what they would do. 9 out of 10 got it wrong.
So dope supporters are dopey. Huh.
Here in Virginia Nanny Bloomberg is said to have dumped millions into State Senate races, without much to show for it. The State Senate is still Republican (the House of Delegates was never in doubt about staying Republican).
Now we await a liberal pro marijuana judge to come in and reverse the vote of the people saying this vote was unconstitutional.
We'll at least get to see if Bevin can govern in a way that lives up to his promises. I was surprised Kentucky wasn't a right to work state already.
Too bad about the pot law--but in the long run I think we're going to be moving towards decriminalization in all the states. Drugs are like guns--you can't do away with them in this country, at best you can regulate them.
I voted for Ohio issue 3 (pot legalization), but I'm convinced the ballot language is what sunk this issue. The title of the issue was essentially "referendum to create a monopoly on the sale and growth of marijuana in the state of ohio", even though the issue would have allowed everyone to own up to 10 plants and grow their own.
Pro weed forces made a strategic error. Of course, the whole point wasn't about being pro legalization. It was about securing a lucrative business deal.
A simple medical use exemption would have likely passed. Now, they would be on their way. The next full legalization will likely come from a state that already has activity.
It's like gay marriage. It would have happened organically rather than through court decisions on constitutional rights if civil unions would have happened first. Once a state's citizens realized the world wouldn't collapse after these unions happened, then getting a vote on actual marriage would have been much easier.
The efforts for 2016 have already begun:
https://legalizeohio2016.org/
"Ballot language by ResponsibleOhio to allow indoor marijuana farms at 10 locations reveals three in Northeast Ohio and a concentration of six in the Columbus-Cincinnati corridor. The 10th farm would be in Toledo."
Did voters rejected (somewhat) legal marijuana, or did they rejected the political fix that would have created a growers' monopoly on (semi-) legal weed?
So if the producers were to collide on price, seems unlikely DOJ would take action, given their conduct is illegal under federal law. Could one successfully bring a private antitrust claim under the Sherman Act? Or are they immune from antitrust scrutiny because they are a criminal enterprise?
Generally breaking one law doesn’t excuse you from having to comply with other laws. That’s why Al Capone got sent to prison for tax evasion even though his income was derived from his criminal enterprises.
The thing people need to realize is that marijuana isn’t legal anywhere in the United States. Unless and until the federal law is changed, the feds can enforce the statute anytime they want. And should they do so, all of the illegal income and assets from the “decriminalized” marijuana business are fair game for being seized.
Peter, it appears to be a vote against monopolies. Even pro-pot groups were against it. Now, they are starting their efforts to legalize medicinal marijuana. Personally, I prefer they leave the medical profession out of their efforts. There is no good evidence of the medical benefits of the stuff. If you want to legalize it, don't lie about it. Just legalize it like alcohol. In other states with legalized medicinal marijuana, the majority of prescriptions are for "pain." Medicinal marijuana turns into the same song and dance as prescription narcotic abusers/seekers. Ugh.
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