June 29, 2015

Tired of all the pro-marriage propaganda?

Here's some anti-marriage propaganda — about knowing I'm not shackled/By forgotten words and bonds/And the ink stains that are dried upon some line...



In the words of Justice Scalia: "Ask the nearest hippie!"

34 comments:

Charlie said...

"We don't need no piece of paper/From the city hall/Keeping us tied and true"-Joni Mitchell 1971

Ann Althouse said...

And now Joni calls out only to find no one there...

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I drove past some Christian church this morning.

On it's marquee sign it said "Love Wins."

And I was all, like, I'm old enough to remember when it was "Jesus Saves."

mccullough said...

Love will never win without LeBron

damikesc said...

Eric. Odds are it is not a terribly religious church.

Roughcoat said...

Love wins.

Jesus saves.

Burma Shaves.

Chuck said...

Ahhh, "the words of Justice Scalia..."

In the words of Justice Scalia, twelve years ago, dissenting in Lawrence v Texas; "Do not believe it." Just as Justice Kennedy was insisting that his own majority opinion in that case would have nothing to do with other legal relationships including homosexual marriage.

As everyone now knows, Kennedy was lying. We know thanks in particular to "the words of Justice Scalia."

n.n said...

It complements the anti-life propaganda and the "equal" decision to selectively deny "marriage" rights. Progress has a peculiar character.

SteveBrooklineMA said...

I greatly prefer Glen Campbell's version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A7iuQF_tAc

Irene said...

Here's the original version, with the composer's inflections.

Here, John Hartford concedes the song has been good for him.

CJinPA said...

It's impossible not to notice that the same folks who argued gay marriage is essential to well-being, argued for 40 years that marriage is a meaningless "piece of paper."

The reason for the rapid rise in approval of gay marriage is not really about acceptance of gays - which is a good thing, generally - it's really about people not giving a sh-t about marriage.

So the Left is proudly ushering gay couples onto the sinking S.S. Institution of Marriage, after spending a half-century poking holes in the hull.

Winners in the decline of marriage? Adult women who want kids but not a husband.
Winners in the rise of gay marriage? Adult gays and lesbians who want a ceremony.
Losers? Kids. Sorry, suckers.

SMGalbraith said...

So the Left is proudly ushering gay couples onto the sinking S.S. Institution of Marriage, after spending a half-century poking holes in the hull.

That's a bit harsh but it's pretty accurate.

The same people, especially the gay left that shouted down Sullivan on this, now think marriage is this wonderful institution that must - it must!! - be changed to allow gay people into it. Otherwise, gay men and women will be driven loveless from the world.

Marriage is now suddenly so important that not to allow gay people into it is just the worst thing imaginable.

It is a good thing, a great thing, that gay men and women don't have to spend their lives alone, in isolation, as pariahs to the world. The world is a pretty nasty place; finding someone to help you is wonderful.

But this marriage concern by people on the left is a little bit disingenuous.

Anonymous said...

I remember when movies first started to have embedded music videos, but when did music videos first start having movies tacked on to them?

CJinPA said...

It is a good thing, a great thing, that gay men and women don't have to spend their lives alone, in isolation, as pariahs to the world. The world is a pretty nasty place; finding someone to help you is wonderful. But this marriage concern by people on the left is a little bit disingenuous.

Agree with both sentiments.

There's a reason the state got into the marriage business, and it ain't love.

It's quite simple: Kids born out of wedlock are more at risk of poverty, academic failure and incarceration. It's the single most predictable variable of those ills.

If only there were advocates who, say, fought against poverty and mass incarceration, and who championed education. But alas, no one talks about those issues. That can be the only reason marriage is being allowed to die.

Carol said...

Odds are it is not a terribly religious church.

Most churches are so freaking desperate for new members they'll whore themselves to the zeitgeist in a heartbeat. Pretty sure the Jesuit fathers at my parish won't bat an eye.

Coupe said...

I wish I knew their address.

I'd send them some hair shampoo.

Drago said...

Carol: "Most churches are so freaking desperate for new members they'll whore themselves to the zeitgeist in a heartbeat."

I don't think it's "most churches".

The mainline denominations that have been captured by the left? Those will certainly bend to whatever the latest "cool kid" idea happens to be. Though they don't seem bothered by declining membership at all.

The evangelical churches? Growing memberships and stronger adherence to their biblical principles.

Which is precisely why the left will go after those first (assuming it's a predominantly white congregation).

I suspect that the left will lob up a transgendered "gal" who wants to marry another gal (with at least one of the pair being african-american and the other being some hispanic denomination).

That would be the optimum political scenario for the lefties.

If one of the pair would also have a preference for wearing a burka, it would be the biggest slam dunk yet.

Mark said...

Irene, reminds me of Bill Monroe's comments about Elvis doing Blue Moon of Kentucky ... `Those are some mighty powerful checks that arrive every month'

Hartford was freed to play the music his heart told him to for the rest of his life thanks to that tune's payday ... when you requested that tune as far as I know he always played it. He knew how his bread was buttered.

AlanKH said...

Most churches are so freaking desperate for new members they'll whore themselves to the zeitgeist in a heartbeat.

That's why the mainline churches are shrinking. You don't have to be Don Draper or Darrin Stevens to know that product differentiation is key to marketing. If church is no different than the Brand X that is the popular culture, why go to church?

T J Sawyer said...

So, what does she say at 1:11? Certainly not the two syllables I would expect but terribly indistinct too. "I know," "I'dnt know," "I lose," Adios?"

damikesc said...

Most churches are so freaking desperate for new members they'll whore themselves to the zeitgeist in a heartbeat. Pretty sure the Jesuit fathers at my parish won't bat an eye.

I'm unpopular at my church sometimes when I mention that chasing college age kids now is a waste of time (church isn't going to beat "Getting head from a co-ed") but they will eventually return to church.

Almost all of them do.

Church needs to be patient and the immovable force in the stream. Chasing all asinine fads is why some churches (Anglican, Episcopalian, etc) die.

damikesc said...

That's why the mainline churches are shrinking. You don't have to be Don Draper or Darrin Stevens to know that product differentiation is key to marketing. If church is no different than the Brand X that is the popular culture, why go to church?

The Church with the best numbers for growth, last I checked, was Southern Baptist.

Their faith isn't warm and cuddly.

buwaya said...

" Though they don't seem bothered by declining membership at all."

Most mainline Protestant churches are all about providing comfortable livings to the clergy.
This goes back to the old English/European systems of church governance. 19th century English literature is full of hopes of appointments for younger sons of the gentry, that they may have a respectable living. For many of these people, these were sinecures, not professions, much less callings.

To be fair, at various points the Catholic church had a great deal of this going on. This is long since changed as things have tightened up greatly, and the church is no longer a source of rich livings for younger sons of the aristocracy. The clergy workload can be intense and the (temporal) remuneration is marginal. They really do mean the part about vows of poverty.

Since most of the mainline churches live off revenues from some sort of endowment, controlled by the the church bureaucracy, it doesn't matter much if there are people in the pews or not.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

I'm not entirely clear on why same sex couples needed marriage in order not "to spend their lives alone, in isolation, as pariahs to the world." (SMGalbraith)

Like Charlie, the first lyric to cross my mind was My Old Man. Ask any hippie.

Truth is, gays will abandon the institution of marriage faster than heteros, once it's theirs to abandon.

Caroline Walker said...

Anybody else have rainbow fatigue?

Be said...

Interesting long-term-study material. I'm particularly interested in the divorce rates.

Anthony said...

Love The Band Perry. Kimberly has a gorgeous voice that can go from soft and sexy to a wild punch in the gut on a dime. Plus she's super hot. Excellent songsmiths too. Must watch this video when I get home.

Bob Ellison said...

That video is a good example of how a woman's slight overbite can make everything work.

Phil 3:14 said...

"The Church with the best numbers for growth, last I checked, was Southern Baptist."

I believe the SBC has actually declined recently.

It's the non-denominational churches that are growing.

Irene said...

Mark, I saw Hartford perform live at Amazing Grace in Evanston, Illinois, in the late 1970s. It was a great show. He did not perform "Gentle on My Mind." I remember that because I later was surprised when I learned he had written that song.

Irene said...

If you like bluegrass, then check out the Punch Brothers. The bassist is from Madison, Wisconsin.

SomeoneHasToSayIt said...

Baby Boomers always think they invent ideas that have actually been around forever.

This is called "eating your cake and having it too".

Jeff Teal said...

I notice that the left seems to care about the celebrants in a marriage.Conservatives care about the products of marriage.One is selfish and self indulgent.One is selfless and delays gratification.One proclaims that if feels good do it.One says don't do that it will hurt you later.Which actually advances society more?Love as a basis for marriage-what a freaking bright idea.

southcentralpa said...

You couldn't just dial up the John Hartford version (y'know, the guy who actually wrote it)? On a similar riff, here's how the Mary Tyler Moore theme was written to sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkuEfGZffRY