Linked by Instapundit, who says, "The response to Foley’s beheading should have been a MOAB dropped on an ISIS-held town."
I have no idea what the right answer is. I am not a military strategist. I want ISIS defeated, but these kidnappings (and beheadings) are their strategy for luring us into their game. They might love us to obliterate one of their towns.
ADDED: The NYT reports
[ISIS] pressed the United States to provide a multimillion-dollar ransom for his release, according to a representative of his family and a former hostage held alongside him. The United States — unlike several European countries that have funneled millions to the terror group to spare the lives of their citizens — refused to pay....Paying ransom strikes me as a terrible strategy, funneling money to terrorists and inciting more kidnapping. As for the Special Operations activities, I infer that when they don't work, we don't hear about them, but the White House made an exception here, because disclosing failure seemed, in this case, like better PR.
Sensitive to growing criticism that it had not done enough, the White House on Wednesday revealed that a United States Special Operations team tried and failed to rescue Mr. Foley....
FOR REFERENCE: "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
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"I'd rather deal with Mary and Titus than this idiot."
If I mention my hog, will that make it better?
The Crack Emcee said...
Todd,
"Sorry, no. I find it funny because here, now, you say racist shit a lot."
And how long have whites been saying racist shit here?
Were you here when I was begging everyone to stop?
No.
YOU KNOW SO MUCH,....
8/21/14, 2:54 PM
And who is saying racist crap today? Besides you? You come to this blog fighting yesterdays battles, by your own admission.
I know you will yell "see there it is again, you are so blind" but WHO besides you says anything racist here, on this blog other than in response to your racists rants?
"I am not a military strategist. I want ISIS defeated, but these kidnappings (and beheadings) are their strategy for luring us into their game. They might love us to obliterate one of their towns."
Unfortunately, neither is Dear Leader. It has always been crystal clear that our military presence in Iraq needed to continue for a very long time in order to buy time for the Iraqis to build an orderly society. While I greatly admire most of what W did while in office, his decision to permit the Iraqis to act as equal partners in the bargaining over the status of forces agreement was a huge mistake.
Since the lefties couldn't get out of Iraq fast enough, the commander in chief was gutless and feckless.
The strategy of the Marines in Fallujah and Ramadi was correct and, more importantly, IT WORKED.
Our only real course is to reinsert the Marines and start over. The problem now, is that nobody could possibly trust us to stay the course. No doubt, the Sunnis have already disposed of those poor deserted folks who helped us.
So maybe, we have no choices left. The wasted blood of our service personnel is on Our Savior's fey hands, and it is a stain he'll never remove in my mind. As someone else observed, our government is a feck-free zone.
That gruesome beheading is just the first episode of along running series that can only be cancelled by significant military force applied on the ground. To extend the metaphor, we need the military equivalent of Les Moonves and Paul Lee.
- Krumhorn
ISIS raises and interesting question: is the US going to be the world's policeman? This has a whole bunch of ramifications, for instance (a) is there any other country who can be trusted to fill that role and (b) if not, and we don't fill that role ourselves, are the people of the United States ready to ignore murder and suffering on a massive scale?
No, the UN cannot fill that role; it has failed spectacularly too many times, e.g., Rwanda. You ask the people of Srebrenica about the effectiveness of UN security. You could, except they're all dead. The Dutch troops representing the UN ran off when the Serbs told them to get out of there, and then the raping and killing became general.
David: "Perhaps some of the rest of us should be a little more vocal in agreement when he is right."
Pretty rich for someone who argues there are innate deficiencies in whites simply by being white.
And even richer that li'l David pops on by hoping for his pat on the head for being on the "right side" of the "crack line".
Here's an idea David: racism is either right or wrong for everyone, or isn't for everyone.
You'd have more credibility if you called crack out on his racist comments (along with all the others) instead of sucking up to him.
The soft bigotry of low expectations makes another appearance.
@David, no, I don't. Reynolds suggested we go to war against ISIS and kill a lot of them. There's a lot to say about that suggestion, none of which has anything to do with the race of the person who suggested it.
David, when there's an important topic that has nothing to do with race, such as whether we should commit to a major war against ISIS, and there's a really dimwitted racial comment about it, that drags this place down.
That's true in absolute terms. The particular racial comment here, that "whites are bloodthirsty", is especially ridiculous. It's content-free and inflammatory. To the extent it means anything at all, a quick glance at history and science shows that every group of people, everywhere, at all times, has been capable of breathtaking violence.
So, when a really ill-informed and inflammatory comment about race is made about a topic that is unrelated to race, it makes this forum dirtier and poorer.
… these kidnappings (and beheadings) are their strategy for luring us into their game.
With all due respect, there's some reality missing here. Here's some other reasons:
They hate infidels and love to murder them – the more brutal the better.
They show the world how powerful they are – it helps in recruiting. Given the hatred toward the USA that is rampant in the Middle East beheadings are good publicity. Many Muslims applaud the butchery.
I do not think they want to "lure" the USA. They do not expect the USA to go into Iraq and Syria – as per "no boots on the ground" as vowed by Obama himself. Ascribing a strategy of luring the USA into their territory seems illogical. They seem to want to expand their Caliphate and an all-out war(or what passes for one these days) with the USA would destroy their Caliphate.
And they are not worried about the USA. They are not stupid. Past events have shown them that Obama will stick to cosmetic actions only. He has no stomach for real war. And his base would never forgive him for going back into Iraq. Obama has to think about his post-Presidency – speech fees, high paying sinecures for him and his wife, prestige, etc.
I believe it is correct to condemn kidnapping payments as wrong – morally wrong and tactically wrong. But their main motive isn't money. It's the prestige and credibility they gain by such butchery that drives the kidnapping.
I urge anyone who may be curious to NOT look at the beheading video. I briefly viewed one years ago and have regretted it ever since. The man screamed long after he should have had no business screaming. He was still screaming when I stopped the video.
The terrorists would have nobody to play to.
The USA is NOT their targeted audience. They play to the Muslims of the world.
Todd,
"And as to that link you keep throwing around, read it, don't agree with it, and have repeatedly told you such but you keep dragging it out like it is somehow magic."
Again - cowardice:
I said, if you can find a reference to slave parents being a requirement, you win.
You know it's not there - so you're changing the subject to whether or not you agree:
A topic even less related to anything important,...
@David -- what was the first comment about race on this particular post, and what was the complete content of that comment?
Why don't you go ahead and re-post that first racial comment.
Crack: "If I mention my hog, will that make it better?"
No, because muslims don't like pigs.
And we know how determined you are not to upset your muslim pals in the midst of their enslaving black africans.
Ann will shortly put this place back on moderation
Or shut off comments again. :(
"The response to Foley’s beheading should have been a MOAB dropped on an ISIS-held town."
Or even something a wee bit more potent than a puny little MOAB. Now that would get their attention.
Peter
@Austin and somehow she doesn't seem to see, or doesn't want to act on, the fact that most of her threads degrade into a discussion about how much money whites owe Crack. I think we're up to about six hundred bucks now or something.
If I remember correctly, Daniel Pearl was made to both condemn his "Zionist" roots and American policy before he was executed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl#Video_of_his_murder
Thorley Winston put things very well in their 12:40 pm comment.
I can't even imagine what these two went through before being so savagely murdered. I hope that they're in a better place. Am thinking good thoughts / praying for their loved ones, for what any of that's worth.
David,
"And Crack is right. Some of the comments here are flat out racist. You don't have to see racists behind every lamppost to see that. He sees it as his job to point them out."
Thank you.
It took me a while to realize that - with virulently anti-PC conservative whites- there was NO WAY asking them to be sensitive to me was going to work:
They insult blacks to make THEMSELVES feel good about being white - so I decided to join the game.
Now - according to them - by aping them, I've become the racist.
It's all so obvious.
Just like they mostly got this way because there's no black around to say anything.
And that speaks to character.
So they even fail the MLK test, they so love to talk about,...
Indeed. Syria. Where President "pretty smile" set a red line. But then claimed he didn't. Not to worry. The Russians are now in an unchallenged position of influence there.
What do you mean, "are now in"? The Russians have been the unchallenged patrons of Syria for almost 70s years.
You cannot blame Obama, or any other US President except maybe Roosevelt or Truman, for Foley getting kidnapped and killed. He was visiting a region that has been openly hostile to Americans since long before he was even born.
The Crack Emcee said...
Todd,
"And as to that link you keep throwing around, read it, don't agree with it, and have repeatedly told you such but you keep dragging it out like it is somehow magic."
Again - cowardice:
I said, if you can find a reference to slave parents being a requirement, you win.
You know it's not there - so you're changing the subject to whether or not you agree:
A topic even less related to anything important,...
8/21/14, 3:04 PM
Now who is being a coward? I never said being a slave was in that article. That was a strawman you built. I said I read it and did not agree with it. You were also the one that raised it as the definitive definition of reparations, not me. It is not on me to prove anything using your version of things. You are the one that keeps moving the goal posts and changing the terms.
I asked you a simple question, your responded and as part required me to prove something I did not say. Sorry, I don't play that.
You also failed to address my question/comment about you fighting yesterday's battle with racism on this blog. Who is making racist on this blog today, besides you and direct responses to your racist comments? I really want to know because I don't see them.
Crack has assumed the role once held by J. Come in, insult everybody, wreck the thread, and bask in the attention. I question Althouse's judgement in encouraging this. Drives up comments, I guess, but so did J and he eventually got banned. I guess Althouse justifies this to herself by saying J used a lot of bad words and Crack only spouts despicable ideas.
Please do this mental exercise, Althouse. Another assignment! The nerve of this guy! If an allegedly white person started making pronouncements about blacks equivalent to the ones Crack makes about whites, how long would he last here? Or do you agree with Crack that it's impossible for blacks to be racist?
I see some commenters are bravely trying to stay above Crack's slime pit (Keep it up Freeman Hunt!) but it's just not enough to keep the thread on topic. Not that anybody will miss me, but at some point I'm just going to ditch the Crack show for a blog with intellectual diversity
Todd,
"And who is saying racist crap today?"
David,
"Crack is right. Some of the comments here are flat out racist."
Summed up best by Rick Perry's friends - again:
"No one thought anything about it.”
Just a little bit O' casual racism,...
Revenant: "You cannot blame Obama, or any other US President except maybe Roosevelt or Truman, for Foley getting kidnapped and killed. He was visiting a region that has been openly hostile to Americans since long before he was even born."
Well then. It's a darn good thing I didn't.
This is a battle that has been going on for 1400 years between the "religion of peace" and basically everyone else.
Revenant: "What do you mean, "are now in"? The Russians have been the unchallenged patrons of Syria for almost 70s years."
Not in the way they are now.
On the off chance that anyone is still reading the comments --
Did the WH dither over authorizing the rescue for so long that the intelligence grew stale? Reports are that we missed Foley by days.
Wrong. You're hated because you hate us. It's a gut reaction, and one you could have averted.
As someone else around here observed, Crack is performance art. Since I have never understood performance art, I'm not capable of writing a critique. However, if it doesn't work, that should be a clue.
I read TMR regularly, and I mostly enjoy it even when I don't quite get the point. But whites are bloodthirsty savages doesn't work, and it brings out the worst in most folks, even if it doesn't reflect what the poster and the respondents really think or how they live their lives.
The objective should always be to (i) entertain or (ii) be effective....preferably both. Many here are frequently both, which is why I love this place.
-Krumhorn
Tyrone Slothrop,
"Or do you agree with Crack that it's impossible for blacks to be racist?"
One of these days - rather than banning me - Ann might decide to ban those who misrepresent my positions.
Actually, no, it would just be her and me and a handful of others
It's impossible for blacks to be racist?
Sheesh:
It's more like, if some blacks AREN'T racist, I'd be surprised,....
Krumhorn: " But whites are bloodthirsty savages doesn't work, and it brings out the worst in most folks,..."
David will be back shortly to explain to us how cracks "whites are bloodthirsty savages" is not a racist comment.
Crack, I asked who is saying racists things on this blog, not who agrees with Crack. Please give me an example.
The optics on this are terrible: Obama golfs while Crack is sans reparations.
Krumhorn,
"As someone else around here observed, Crack is performance art."
He remembers! Oh Joy! A white person with a memory! It's a unicorn!
"Since I have never understood performance art, I'm not capable of writing a critique."
Fair enough, but I'm listening:
"However, if it doesn't work, that should be a clue."
But it is - these guys just don't get it because they get pissed and couldn't see the parameters, anyway. (Which is why it has to be explained from time-to-time.)
"I read TMR regularly, and I mostly enjoy it even when I don't quite get the point."
I stopped explaining it a long time ago. Compare this post to this one today - they're night and day in outlook and approach. But, I'll give a clue to understanding it, which has never changed:
The topic of the blog is cultish thinking.
"Whites are bloodthirsty savages doesn't work, and it brings out the worst in most folks, even if it doesn't reflect what the poster and the respondents really think or how they live their lives."
But it does reflect what some have said here - savages, animals, etc. - and in Ferguson.
"The objective should always be to (i) entertain or (ii) be effective....preferably both."
Naw - as art, sometimes, the point is to disturb. To leap at the jugular. To scare the bejesezus out of people. That's as important as making someone happy or whatnot. You don't always know who's observing the work.
"Many here are frequently both, which is why I love this place."
I'm doing my best, trying to be as informative as possible, while mangling the other side's assumptions - which requires a certain mischievous racialism. I cross the line, sometimes, or get sloppy or tired, but never enough I forget the point. As blacks always say:
"Keep Your Eyes On The Prize, Oh Lord,..."
Todd said...
Crack, I asked who is saying racists things on this blog, not who agrees with Crack. Please give me an example.
I'll second this. I've been racking my brain and I can't come up with any anti-black racists here, the real, not imaginary kind, and I've been hanging around at least as long as him. There's Cedarford, but he's just an antisemite. Crack, how 'bout some examples, and try not to make them stupid ones.
Beta Rube,
"The optics on this are terrible: Obama golfs while Crack is sans reparations."
Are you kidding?
The only thing that could make it better would be if I got my reparations and could afford to join him,...
Lol -- Crack, do you honestly think anyone's ever been scared of you here?
Tyrone Slothrop,
"I'll second this. I've been racking my brain and I can't come up with any anti-black racists here, the real, not imaginary kind, and I've been hanging around at least as long as him."
Rick Perry's pals again - "No one thought anything about it.”
THAT's why you can't find them yourselves.
"There's Cedarford, but he's just an antisemite."
You guys don't study race, so like I said, you're babes in the woods. A guy has to be wearing full Klan regalia for you to be able to spot anything. It's sad.
Do the work.
"Crack, how 'bout some examples, and try not to make them stupid ones."
Wait - now you trust me to tell the truth?
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Follow the thread, man - hilarious!!!!
I swear, we're going to win reparations, because tying you guys in knots is such an easy endeavour.
And when we do - drinks are on me,...
"The point is to scare the bezjeesus out of them, to go for the jugular"
This is just ridiculous. It's laughable. Do you really see yourself as threatening to anyone?
That's literally insane. It's delusional. You're a bitmapped caricature of a bum. That's not scary.
Maybe Crack's point is to make us scared of OTHER black people -- except he's not even black. He's a bit sequence uncorrelated to any actual black person. And he's surprisingly unintelligent.
Nothing scary about that. I'm scared of the cops in Ferguson, and I'm scared of ISIS, but I'm not scared of Crack's attempt to caricature other black people.
DS,
"Lol -- Crack, do you honestly think anyone's ever been scared of you here?"
I like it:
The man walks in - 7 years after I've gotten here - and acts like he knows what's occurred before he got here.
If there's a better example of obvious insanity, please, somebody tell me:
He's imagining what he couldn't possibly know - and doing it aggressively in public. Where everyone can see him.
I'm forwarding this to all my black friends,...
The Crack Emcee said...
Tyrone Slothrop,
"I'll second this. I've been racking my brain and I can't come up with any anti-black racists here, the real, not imaginary kind, and I've been hanging around at least as long as him."
Rick Perry's pals again - "No one thought anything about it.”
THAT's why you can't find them yourselves.
"There's Cedarford, but he's just an antisemite."
You guys don't study race, so like I said, you're babes in the woods. A guy has to be wearing full Klan regalia for you to be able to spot anything. It's sad.
Do the work.
"Crack, how 'bout some examples, and try not to make them stupid ones."
Wait - now you trust me to tell the truth?
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Follow the thread, man - hilarious!!!!
I swear, we're going to win reparations, because tying you guys in knots is such an easy endeavour.
And when we do - drinks are on me,...
8/21/14, 3:40 PM
OK, let me get this straight. Crack says there are LOTS of racists on this blog and in this very thread TODAY, NOW. I say OK show me one. Crack responds "do the work". I did. I didn't see it so help me see it. Other than your posts, where is the racism? Not 5 years ago. Not some public figure somewhere but here on this thread. Thank you.
DS said...
@David, no, I don't. Reynolds suggested we go to war against ISIS and kill a lot of them.
He said (or actually the person he linked said) that we should drop a bomb on a town occupied by ISIS. You may have missed that obvious point. You also may have not made the connection that such a bomb would kill many people being oppressed by ISIS. Innocent and helpless people.
Crack made a connection between that an America's violent racial past. An odd connection in your mind to be sure, but not so farfetched that it's not understandable.
You seem either too blind or too devious to (1) summarize accurately the link Reynolds made or (2) acknowledge that there is a visible connection between that an America's racial history.
To spell it out for you, the connection is killing or injuring people who are innocent and helpless.
Do I think this is our country's nature? No. But imperfection is part of all human nature, and we have done this or permitted it to be done too often.
Obliterating a town misfortunate enough to be occupied by ISIS would be another example.
@David, it's insulting to suggest that I don't know that a war would kill many people.
Clearly, you are not interested in actual dialog about an important topic like war and the consequences of it, which are serious.
DS,
"This is just ridiculous. It's laughable. Do you really see yourself as threatening to anyone?
That's literally insane. It's delusional. You're a bitmapped caricature of a bum. That's not scary."
Now this genius is confusing a discussion about art to being physically threatening.
Were you part of the white FBI team that showed up at NWA's door after they made "Fuck The Police"?
In fact, we are already at war against ISIS and we are already killing civilians in areas under their control.
We are ALREADY killing Iraqis under ISIS control; Reynolds suggested we kill many more.
You have a sketch in your head that I don't understand this. Of course I do. I understand a lot more about war in Iraq, and the massive collateral damage to innocents, than you do. I would oppose such a war.
I think it shows you to be shallow that you think any of that has something to do with race. There are many important things to discuss about that war, and none of them are the fact that Glenn fucking Reynolds is white. What a trivial issue compared to the thousands that we will kill there.
You, like Crack, are showing yourself to be a trivial thinker.
Rather than impose justified "collateral damage" by bombings, I suggest that we select our 100 Muslims for each such murder and "liquidate" them. I recommend that we start with those members of CAIR (A terrorism supporting organization) now in the White House and other limbs of the Administration and certain "Mullahs" in the USA who forward Jihad.
@David I think you would be embarrassed if you knew my views on war and on Reynolds' suggestion. In the literally black-and-white world you just sketched out, if I think that there's something more important in Iraq than Glenn Reynold's race, that means I want to kill Arabs.
What a fucking joke. I think this topic is very, very important, and has nothing to do with race. Can you even conceptualize something like that?
David said...
DS said...
@David, no, I don't. Reynolds suggested we go to war against ISIS and kill a lot of them.
He said (or actually the person he linked said) that we should drop a bomb on a town occupied by ISIS. You may have missed that obvious point. You also may have not made the connection that such a bomb would kill many people being oppressed by ISIS. Innocent and helpless people.
Crack made a connection between that an America's violent racial past. An odd connection in your mind to be sure, but not so farfetched that it's not understandable.
Right. America's racial past (whites oppressing blacks because of the color of their skin) is very much related to trying to kill a group of fanatical Muslims that just cut off the head of an American, non-Muslim today by destroying an entire town which would also kill a number of innocents.
Sorry, I can't see any reasonable person making that connection.
Todd,
"OK, let me get this straight."
You won't, but - try:
"Crack says there are LOTS of racists on this blog and in this very thread TODAY, NOW."
Where? Show me where I said anything close to "there are LOTS of racists on this blog and in this very thread TODAY, NOW."
You're, both, delusional and a liar who can't tell the truth.
"I say OK show me one. Crack responds "do the work". I did."
What do you think "the work" means?
"I didn't see it so help me see it"
Ask Rick Perry's friends.
"Other than your posts, where is the racism?"
You're looking for OBVIOUS racism - a guy in a Klan robe. Someone screaming "Nigger".
That's not what anybody's talking about.
"Not 5 years ago."
Shit, you can't spot 400 YEARS of it - that includes scenes like this - and admit having that happen to blacks is damaging, so what's the point?
"Not some public figure somewhere but here on this thread. Thank you."
You're clueless:
What do you think "do the work" means?
OK, back to the "I wish I wasn't American."
I was startled, at first, to see that, even when it doesn't make any difference, when he's moments from death, he would still repeat the same sorts of things these sorts of captors always demand of their captives.
But I have the impression that one of the games these people like to play is to tell their victims that they're about to be killed, then magnamimously spare them when they do or say the right thing, and I imagine that this scenario played out multiple times in the past and Foley hoped if he cooperated he would be spared at the last minute.
Do you think?
The Crack Emcee said...
8/21/14, 3:54 PM
Crack, you are deflecting again. You said there are racists RIGHT HERE, on this blog and in this thread. Where? Thank you.
Todd,
"Right. America's racial past (whites oppressing blacks because of the color of their skin) is very much related to trying to kill a group of fanatical Muslims that just cut off the head of an American, non-Muslim today by destroying an entire town which would also kill a number of innocents.
Sorry, I can't see any reasonable person making that connection."
TULSA, OK - 1921 - WHITES BURN DOWN AN ENTIRE BLACK TOWN FILLED WITH INNOCENTS.
Totally far-fetched on my part,...
The Crack Emcee said...
Todd,
"Right. America's racial past (whites oppressing blacks because of the color of their skin) is very much related to trying to kill a group of fanatical Muslims that just cut off the head of an American, non-Muslim today by destroying an entire town which would also kill a number of innocents.
Sorry, I can't see any reasonable person making that connection."
TULSA, OK - 1921 - WHITES BURN DOWN AN ENTIRE BLACK TOWN FILLED WITH INNOCENTS.
Totally far-fetched on my part,...
8/21/14, 3:59 PM
Sorry, you didn't answer the question. That was not right here, this blog, this thread. Bad yes but it did not answer the question you said you could answer. Please try again.
Todd,
"Crack, you are deflecting again. You said there are racists RIGHT HERE, on this blog and in this thread. Where? Thank you."
Don't re-assert the charge:
I said quote me.
Maybe that is the reparations, Ann gives Crack her blog.
Bet she doesn't give any of those Amazon portal dollars to him though.
Racist.
Drago said...
David: "Perhaps some of the rest of us should be a little more vocal in agreement when he is right."
Pretty rich for someone who argues there are innate deficiencies in whites simply by being white.
And even richer that li'l David pops on by hoping for his pat on the head for being on the "right side" of the "crack line".
Here's an idea David: racism is either right or wrong for everyone, or isn't for everyone.
You'd have more credibility if you called crack out on his racist comments (along with all the others) instead of sucking up to him.
So I would have more credibility if I agreed with you? With you I would.
Basically you are with Jason, who said he wants to see Crack gone. Banish the dissenters or make them conform, right?
Innate deficiencies in whites? I live in the American south, where ordinary people prove every day that they can overcome the past. People white and black have to do this every day to live together, which in the small town south blacks and whites still do.
I don't think any person, white or black, should feel guilt for the historic transgressions of his race. I am not innately guilty for what plantation owners or Jim Crow southerners did. Crack is not guilty for the moral failings of 18th Century African slave traders, or of gang bangers in LA.
But guilt and responsibility are different. We can take responsibility for ameliorating the harmful effects of the past. That is what the vast majority of black and white southerners do every day. It's imperfect. It's not dramatic. It's not the only solution. But it sure helps.
Todd,
'Sorry, you didn't answer the question. That was not right here, this blog, this thread. Bad yes but it did not answer the question you said you could answer. Please try again."
Now you're confusing two different topic and claiming I'm the one not coming through.
It's ALWAYS THE BLACK GUY,...
David,
"But guilt and responsibility are different. We can take responsibility for ameliorating the harmful effects of the past. That is what the vast majority of black and white southerners do every day. It's imperfect. It's not dramatic. It's not the only solution. But it sure helps."
God damn it, David, go away - you're explaining. Keep that up and they might wise up and destroy my fun.
Kidding.
Welcome aboard, man - where you writing from?
The Crack Emcee said...
Todd,
"Crack, you are deflecting again. You said there are racists RIGHT HERE, on this blog and in this thread. Where? Thank you."
Don't re-assert the charge:
I said quote me.
8/21/14, 4:01 PM
So is your assertion that because I don't agree with you that "bombing an entire town to get known terrorists is just like America" means not that we have difference of opinion but that I am a racist? If so, why not just say it. If you mean something else, please be more clear.
Todd,
"So is your assertion that because I don't agree with you that "bombing an entire town to get known terrorists is just like America" means not that we have difference of opinion but that I am a racist? If so, why not just say it. If you mean something else, please be more clear."
Where's the quotes of me saying your assumptions?
Come on, man - we've got this whole thread to chose from:
Where am I saying these things you hear?
Admit it:
You're only listening to the voices in your head,...
David, the point of this thread isn't black people or white people. The point of this thread is the execution of Foley, and a suggestion from Insty that there be a larger-scale war against ISIS.
Now, at what point did that change? When Crack said that Insty suggested that because whites are bloodthirsty.
You tried to defend that, ignorant of my knowledge of war. Now that you know that I understand what's going to happen if we step up our war, and that I oppose doing so, I ask you again:
What does an escalated war in Iraq have to do with white bloodthirstiness, and why don't you see the deep evil and corruption of suggesting that?
You really can't see that war in Iraq can be discussed without bringing up trivialities like American race relations? You can't see how truly unimportant American race relations are compared to the great number of people being killed, by this country's armed forces as well as many other armed groups, in Iraq every day?
I like this, because now we're getting somewhere:
Todd is showing how Drudge and the like get whites.
He plays on your assumptions.
He lets them run wild and feeds them.
He never challenges them.
And whites don't make him prove anything.
It's all a tease.
Apocalyptic thinking running wild.
And they're calling it "politics"....
DS,
"David, the point of this thread isn't black people or white people. The point of this thread is the execution of Foley, and a suggestion from Insty that there be a larger-scale war against ISIS."
Wrong - he suggested killing innocent people by bombing a town held by people we don't like.
Just like America did blacks,...
Drago said...
David will be back shortly to explain to us how cracks "whites are bloodthirsty savages" is not a racist comment.
No. It would require you to understand context, irony, hyperbolic parallelism and would also require you to read with care and a open heart.
Wisconsin right now.
The Crack Emcee said...
"Crack, how 'bout some examples, and try not to make them stupid ones."
Wait - now you trust me to tell the truth?
OK,Crack, as I and Todd before me surmised, you've got nothing. Consumed by hate and you don't really even know why.
Althouse, from your "for reference" -
"Bến Tre is 85 km SOUTHEAST of Ho Chi Minh City..." emphasis added.
No it's not. But that's what you get with Wikipedia.
To be fair, editors with a cavalier regard for geography and cardinal directions seem more the rule than exception today.
I urge anyone who may be curious to NOT look at the beheading video. I briefly viewed one years ago and have regretted it ever since. The man screamed long after he should have had no business screaming. He was still screaming when I stopped the video.
But I have the impression that one of the games these people like to play is to tell their victims that they're about to be killed, then magnamimously spare them when they do or say the right thing, and I imagine that this scenario played out multiple times in the past and Foley hoped if he cooperated he would be spared at the last minute.
Do you think?
Both excellent points. If one can manage to descend into the hellish scenario and focus on the horror, Foley was stoic and brave even as he was enduring unbelievable agony. I too have watched a couple of those beheading videos, and the excruciating pain and prolonged torture that extended into eternity is something never to be forgotten....and I served two combat tours.
There have been many dozens of such savage acts, and there is much to fear from these people who take such delight in human suffering. In retrospect, Eichman was the soul of benevolence.
This must be taken seriously and dealt with urgently and decisively, or we will leave this hell to our children to endure. Civilization is so very fragile when viewed over the course of the history of man. We deceive ourselves when we assume otherwise.
-Krumhorn
Whether we pay ransoms or not and whether its a good idea or not is moot since we offered to pay ISIS 100 million dollars and they turned it down. And chopped off the journalists head.
Since appeasing them did nothing, now they should pay for their crimes against humanity through their blood.
David wrote:
Crack is right. Some of the comments here are flat out racist. You don't have to see racists behind every lamppost to see that. He sees it as his job to point them out. Perhaps some of the rest of us should be a little more vocal in agreement when he is right.
please stop kissing Crack's butt. The racism is coming from cracks end almost entirely. His posts are not thoughtful nuanced discussions about race. They are circatures and screeds and race baits. If you want to point out the racism of others, then name the posts and we can have the discussion. But don't let crack off the hook.
Crack wrote:
And whites are bloodthirsty savages. (That hypothetical town is "held" by ISIS, it doesn't mean they agree with them - sheesh.)
"I have no idea what the right answer is."
STOP LISTENING TO THE LIKES OF GLENN REYNOLDS,...
there are only certain ways to deal with ISIS, and almost all of then involve war of some kind. I'd certainly agree thst bombs from on high may not be the most surgical option and will lead to some innocent deaths, but we will need to deal with ISIS. It's not as if we leave ISIS to its own devices that innocents will not be killed by ISIS. Isn't thst the whole point? so, bombs will work. Drone strikes will work. Snipers will work, ground forces will work. Some combination will work. So long as, at the end of the day ISIS thinks twice about chopping off Journalists heads.
Seek out the videos they put out of their kills. You think those would stop absent out dealing with ISIS?
Drago simply cannot bring himself to confront/discuss islamist beheadings and other atrocities.
He will look for any reason to discuss anybody else.
It's not hard to understand why.
Crack...I have been away and missed the last 200 some comments. But my speaking out was to say to you, in the words of the Kindly Thief, "... you and I have been through that, and this is not our fate, So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."
The MLK miracle happened because the WWII fighting made all racism appear as silly nonsense. Slavery always was a mean and criminal activity. It had been supported out of fear of mean black men taking revenge, just like racism still is in many places as we speak.
The only way around racist bigotry against black men is to call it out, as you do, and rally supporters for the truth.
But pushing a popular black man's revenge attack on white men, most of whom are not guilty of anything, is guaranteed to backfire. I know how white men act when under attack.
I will always love you, even if you keep fighting for reparations. You got guts.
David,
"No. It would require you to understand context, irony, hyperbolic parallelism and would also require you to read with care and a open heart."
In other words, "doing the work".
"Obama's war on terror"
LOL Dude makes France look good.
jr565,
"please stop kissing Crack's butt."
Because that's what agreeing with me is to jr565.
And that's because he's so smart.
ROTFLMAO!!!
traditionalguy,
"Pushing a popular black man's revenge attack on white men, most of whom are not guilty of anything, is guaranteed to backfire."
Wait - clarify - who is the "popular black"?
"I know how white men act when under attack."
You and me both.
"I will always love you, even if you keep fighting for reparations."
Ahh - gotcha. [Frowns]
"You got guts."
I wish you did,...
Revenant: "What do you mean, "are now in"? The Russians have been the unchallenged patrons of Syria for almost 70s years."
Not in the way they are now.
That is true, but not in the way you mean it -- they dominate Syria much less, now, than they used to.
Also, you would do well to remember that the "red line" remark was a threat issued by Obama to *Assad*. Assad is ISIS' enemy. Basically you're complaining that Obama didn't intervene to help ISIS's side in the Syrian civil war.
Hey TG,
WWJD?
"Maybe to distract us from white's crimes here?"
Nah crack, it's to show blacks have just as much racist genocidal history as anyone else.
You might not be 'African' nor ever been to Africa but you are black, right?, and you are a human, right?
Is America perfect? No.
Is America 10x better than where the black slaves came from? Yes.
And right now crack, blacks murder blacks in America far more than anyone else murders them.
Why that sounds like some twisted form of racism, right crack?
Revenant: " Basically you're complaining that Obama didn't intervene to help ISIS's side in the Syrian civil war."
No, I'm not.
You can tell I'm not because I didn't.
David: "No. It would require you to understand context, irony, hyperbolic parallelism and would also require you to read with care and a open heart."
LOL
As expected.
David: "Basically you are with Jason, who said he wants to see Crack gone."
I never said or intimated any such thing.
Ever.
David: "Banish the dissenters or make them conform, right?"
I never said or intimated any such thing.
Do you have something else to add?
Crack... The award of money damages has always very popular among recipients, especially punitive damages in quasi criminal laws.
Hammurabi may have been the popular black man who thought of it, or maybe it was Moses and wives. But lawyers are thankful to whomever it was.
All should get to plead the statute of limitations on great, great grandparents liability.
Even Moses' God only punished the sins of the fathers down to the third and fourth generations.
And if we did historical reparations the native Americans would get the first trillion trillion dollars and all we would get is to go back to Africa or Northern Ireland. Redskin Supremacy is the most savage one.
Crack... Jesus would be faithful to his people who are Jews and Christians and all who give his people so much kindness as a drink of cold water. Which makes me suspect that you are a Christian/
But the Jesus who returns in the clouds to the mount of Olives soon may not be passively offering his body and blood as a sacrifice this time around. He may be the Jesus who treads out the wine press of God's wrath on enemies and commands those enemies to be brought before him and be cut in two.
That would be the Wrath of the Lamb as tracked in Psalm 110.
DS said...
What a fucking joke. I think this topic is very, very important, and has nothing to do with race. Can you even conceptualize something like that?
Do you always get upset when a conversation takes a turn you do not like or expect? Conversations wind around, from one perspective to another. It's their nature. If you want to stay on your idea of the topic, write about that. Ignore the part of the conversation you consider irrelevant. If people are more compelled by what you want to write about, they will respond to that.
But whenever Crack skews a topic in the way he sees a connection, a bunch of you seem compelled to scream at him. He can only change the topic if you let him. Not only do you let him do it, you relish the change. It's what really brings out your passion.
David, that's profoundly disingenuous. My argument is, Crack ruins this forum by making unrelated racial comments.
A white man makes a (lousy) suggestion, and Crack's here to say it's because whites are bloodthirsty.
That's not a conversation. That's a troll. And it's not reasonable or accurate.
David, I don't know who you are or where you're from; but let's say you're Vietnamese.
Let's say that I say, "Jesus, Vietnamese people are moronic" as a way of responding to your arguments here.
Do you get it now?
Your argument is moronic (or not) for reasons that have nothing to do with being Vietnamese. Pretty straightforward, I'd think.
Oh and I can already see it coming: "Vietnamese people didn't enslave your ancestors." Well (a), you don't know whether that's true. It's probably not true. And (b) if you think that has anything to do with this, you're just never going to see why Crack is destructive.
Drago, I apologize. Jason said that he wished Crack were gone. All you are asking for is that he stop saying things that you don't like.
Both ways you eliminate the irritation of a discordant voice. Forgive me for saying that this makes you and Jason just like each other. I should have said "pretty much the same."
And you can't see the connection that Crack made? You don't understand it?
Here's an illustrative example for you. Consider this statement:
"Black people are like feces. Brown and frequently found on the streets of poor neighborhoods."
Now, if you find that comment offensive -- which you ought to -- does that mean you didn't understand it? Or see the connection it draws? :)
The whining about Crack ruining the blog is disingenuous. No one is forced to either read his posts or respond to them. I would guess that in general there are considerably more posts responding to Crack than actual Crack posts, so who is derailing the thread? To some degree Crack lives up to his name when it comes to a certain class of commentators.
"Of course you can not "prove" it but there's a good basis"
As Ann added (which I had read previously)--- they had made ransom demands, and did this when they didn't get the money.
So there is an even better basis to suggest it was about ransom.
The timing, right after we started air strikes, is a stronger basis for believing that they wanted to change the behavior we had just started, than it is that they wanted us to do more.
Lost in this thread is that the US ought to impose sanctions on European countries that pay ransom. Consider this policy another form of ransom and they will pay it.
As for ISIS, as mentioned by another commenter we should quietly kill as many of them and their supporters as possible. You don't have to kill them all, just enough to get the rest to quit.
Performance "art" is always bad and is always the work of the untalented, of those without the skills for art. It is lazy and requires no discipline and, again, no particular talent. No one can name a performance "artist" off the top of their heads.
ISIS is somewhat different. There are many European participants, people from the UK and France and Germany who have gone to fight for the jihad, for the caliphate. There are real fears that these men will return to their "home" countries and begin to unleash some of their venom on the locals. We should give this some thought as well. It is said that one can come into the United States rather easily if desired.
Ransom is bad policy and it seems the Europeans have been paying up for their snatched citizens for years to these elements in the ME that convert the money to weapons. We are very naive at the moment. We will be schooled again. Inevitable.
Here's some more gasoline for the fire:
The video of the shooting of Kajieme Powell in St. Louis is now released. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-P54MZVxMU&bpctr=1408665103
There are so many ways the police could have avoided killing this man.
They also could have avoided being caught in a lie. Like their official statement that they did not draw their guns until Powell started to approach them. Clearly not true. Also likely not true is the statement that Powell was 3-4 feet from one officer when the firing began with his knife in an attack position.
Two "trained professionals" with guns shot a disturbed man with a steak knife. Just a step or two backward by the cops when the man also initially backed up could have made the shooting unnecessary.
This was like dropping a MOAB on the guy. It did not have to happen that way.
cubanbob said...
As for ISIS, as mentioned by another commenter we should quietly kill as many of them and their supporters as possible. You don't have to kill them all, just enough to get the rest to quit.
We killed Saddam and his sons and then forced out all the Baathist generals, how did that work out?
There are 1.6 billion muslims a large fraction fundamentalists. It's turtles all the way down.
Your 'cut off the head of the snake' is how we got into this mess. The promise of a quick fix for an intractable problem.
ARM
Let us stipulate that you are right, that in the end it is all the fault of GWB and the neocons. Done. Stipulated. Agreed.
What is your view of the way out? Do you have an opinion on what, if anything, should be done about ISIS.
David: "All you are asking for is that he stop saying things that you don't like."
I never said or intimated anything like that at all.
Ever.
Would you like to try again?
David: "But whenever Crack skews a topic in the way he sees a connection, a bunch of you seem compelled to scream at him."
LOL
"scream"
The only one screaming is crack.
Not to worry, your pat on the head is on its way.
I don't read Crack's posts (he is scroll-over country) and he still manages to ruin this site,
My opinion of Ms. Althouse is in free-fall because she allows it to continue.
maybe it's his smile
Correct me if I am wrong Crack but I think you are complaining about Glenn Reynolds not being a good/loyal republican.
Am I hearing you correctly?
If so, that is just nuts. It's like complaining that a horse is not a good cat.
I've been reading Instapundit, as well as other venues he writes in, for about a dozen years now. Has he ever claimed to be a Republican?
Or a conservative, for that matter.
I've never understood him to be other than a liberal (in the libertarian/classical sense).
I wonder if we are talking about the same Instapundit. Hard to believe there are two of them.
John Henry
Michael,
"Performance "art" is always bad and is always the work of the untalented, of those without the skills for art."
Should I once again whip out all the reviews, from high and low, declaring me an artistic genius - or simply ask what YOUR credentials are for speaking on the topic?
I'll settle for the latter:
GO!
David,
"There are so many ways the police could have avoided killing this man."
ROTFLMAO!!!
I'm sorry. I saw that footage yesterday (with that black kid's crazy narrative) and the way you said it - because it's so obvious - hit me wrong.
Yeah, there's a LOT of things they could've done.
Like just getting back in the car,....
Drago,
"I never said or intimated anything like that at all.
Ever.
Would you like to try again?"
ROTFLMAO!!!!
BUSTED!!!!!
We killed Saddam and his sons and then forced out all the Baathist generals, how did that work out?
Well, the one remaining Baathist regime in the world is just barely hanging on, despite Russian backing.
So... "pretty well, actually?"
Crack: "BUSTED"
You're just a link away from proving me wrong!
So close!
Yet so elusive.
Crack: "ROTFLMAO!!!!"
You seem to roll on the floor quite a bit.
Correlation with your skin rashes?
John,
"Correct me if I am wrong Crack but I think you are complaining about Glenn Reynolds not being a good/loyal republican."
No, I'm complaining he gives bad political advice and more.
"Am I hearing you correctly?"
No, he's a libertarian and not a Republican. We can do without him.
"If so, that is just nuts. It's like complaining that a horse is not a good cat."
I know - that's why I'm not saying it.
"I've been reading Instapundit, as well as other venues he writes in, for about a dozen years now. Has he ever claimed to be a Republican?"
Nope.
"Or a conservative, for that matter."
Yes, or at least implied it.
"I've never understood him to be other than a liberal (in the libertarian/classical sense)."
I'll say - quack remedies?
"I wonder if we are talking about the same Instapundit. Hard to believe there are two of them."
Nope, Glenn Reynolds - Instapundit. The Blog Father.
The Pied Piper of the Right Going Over A Cliff And Into The Wilderness,...
Drago,
You've called for me being banned so many times it's comical.
I wonder how you, and Chef Mojo, etc., can come on Ann's blog and just lie outright about the behavior you've exhibited, or what's previously occurred.
I didn't call out Glenn Reynolds, here, and he started posting my shit - only to find I still wanted answers so he got cowardly.
Noooo, according to Chef Mojo, Reynolds figured ME OUT and that pissed me off, so Reynolds didn't post my shit.
Do you see how racism works? Turns the truth on it's head.
That's what y'all are trying to do with Ferguson,...
Crack: "You've called for me being banned so many times it's comical."
Should be easy to dial one up.
Go for it.
Crack: "Yes, or at least implied it"
Well?
Which is it?
Is it "yes" or is it "implied it"?
Or is there a 3rd option which is none of the above and you are just winging it?
Again, should be easy to grab a link and post it.
Go for it.
Drago,
"You seem to roll on the floor quite a bit.
Correlation with your skin rashes?"
ANOTHER reference to me moving to SF and the humidity giving me dry skin.
Why do you guys love that story so much? Isn't it because you honestly know nothing about me? You'll take any little scrap - something's wrong with his skin! - and turn it into a never-ending admission you're an ignorant boob.
Do I do that to you, Drago? You stick your nose in every thread I'm on - do I recount your every defeat, or allow you to rack up new ones, undeterred?
My friends would hate you,...
Crack: "I wonder how you, and Chef Mojo, etc., can come on Ann's blog and just lie outright about the behavior you've exhibited, or what's previously occurred"
What random white guy told you to believe that?
Drago, you're not a worth correcting.
That's how important you are to me.
I'll go dig up old jr565 nonsense before I'd bother with you.
You mean nothing,...
Crack: "ANOTHER reference to me moving to SF and the humidity giving me dry skin."
Now wait a minute crack.
First, I thought you were living in the East Bay, not SF.
Secondly, dry skin in a humid environment?
I'm no doctor so how exactly does that work? I've worked in the middle east, lived in phoenix and in high desert areas as well as multiple cities in California (including the bay area) and I've never heard of that complaint before.
The Crack Emcee: "Drago, you're not a worth correcting."
Well, that wasn't a very graceful backing down when your BS is exposed.
Just tell the truth Crack" you made a mistake because all of us white folks look alike to you.
However that still doesn't excuse your woeful ignorance of the black "back to south" migration patterns which have been going on for 20+ years!
Crack, getting back in the car would be one of them. Just a step or two back would probably have done it too. Not pulling their guns as soon as they got out of the car. Never getting out of the car in the first place. (They have those loudspeakers, right?) Or not stopping in the first place. Did someone call them? Or did they just stop? I have no idea.
Police are trained to take immediate control of a situation. Fair enough. But they should also be trained that taking control can include taking a few steps back.
Crack: "Do I do that to you, Drago? You stick your nose in every thread I'm on.."
Wow. The sense of entitlement is strong with this one.
crack: "- do I recount your every defeat, or allow you to rack up new ones, undeterred?"
Ok Crack. That was a fair observation.
Your personal stuff is off the record from here on out.
"not according to whites"..
crack... are you smoking crack?
So all 'whites' somehow get together and decide to be racist to blacks in America?
You are so FOS.
Like I've said before crack, get a job and get ahead and quit this poor old me stuff.
There are blacks that have made it to the top crack. I know one who is a neurosurgeon, several computer programmers, three who are directors of large departments.
Know what they did crack to get there?
They studied and tried to make something of themselves.
Sadly that is what you need to do instead perpetuating this racist screed you give out.
Dropping a MOAB or even a nuke won't fix the problem. Killing every ISIS member won't fix the problem either. Because the problem is the ideology that drives these people and the one that keeps "inspiring" new members to join up for Allah.
Until a politician gets the cojones to stand up and say to Muslims that there IS a problem with certain verses in the Koran - and then quote them verbatim, there will never be resolution. You don't have to attack the religion - but you can certainly question how you can eliminate the verses from the theology.
Of course the answer is that you can't - because the Koran cannot be altered because it is perfect. But at least you put people on notice that you can't keep playing the "they are deviants" game.
But no politician would do that - too many votes to lose. An much too politically incorrect.
Re: traditionalguy:
Those great lovers of death, the Japanese Samurai bushido guys said the same things as ISIL DO about the USA, until vaporizing them started and the only place in Japan left unvaporized was the Imperial Palace.
Oh, we blew the Palace to smithereens. The current building in Tokyo was built after the war.
The Kyoto Palace survived, but only because some senior US official had his honeymoon in Kyoto or something, and his fond memories of the city kept him from ordering it burned to the ground.
David wrote:
do you always get upset when a conversation takes a turn you do not like or expect? Conversations wind around, from one perspective to another. It's their nature. If you want to stay on your idea of the topic, write about that. Ignore the part of the conversation you consider irrelevant. If people are more compelled by what you want to write about, they will respond to that"
david, this is the modus operandi for Crack for EVERY conversation. If its about Syria, when Crack weighs in he'll turn it to a discussion on race and reparations. And calling white people wicked. Give it ten topics, and when Crack gets involved it will be about race and reparations and the wickedness of white people.
If this were a white guy talking about the wickedness of blacks in every conversation I doubt you'd be defending his bigotry.
We've got nearly 400 comments, the 1/2 of which are devoted to whether or not Crack is anti American or what.
Why don't we shift things back to today's Danny Pearl, and how the current Crack Generation's been trying to deal with stuff in spite of the administration folks have elected in (whether or not they chose to vote).
David wrote:
"Crack is right. Some of the comments here are flat out racist."
ok! I'll bite. Which ones? Give us three so we can see what you're referring to.
Crack wrote:
You guys don't study race, so like I said, you're babes in the woods. A guy has to be wearing full Klan regalia for you to be able to spot anything. It's sad.
whereas you can spot the white racism everywhere but don't see the racism coming out of your own mouth! it seems you have the same blindspot you accuse white people of having.
Crack Emcee and David have the answer to cops shooting kooks who come at them- Just get back in the car... Sounds like elementary police work. If there's a threat in front of you, just ignore it. Sit in the car and watch. Bet that would cut the crime rate to almost nothing. Cops show up, see a crime in progress, and just sit in the car and watch. You know it works because look how effective it's been just this week in Ferguson, Missouri. Cops stand down and there is nothing but law abiding citizens peacefully protesting, not looting or stealing or shooting each other at all. Zen policing, don't just do something- Sit there!
The ex's dad was part of the post-war rebuilding commission. He led the former pilots around the missed targets.
The number of times that he got apologized to by the Americans (as opposed to the British or Germans) made an impression.
"Damn, I deserve a punch in the face for that."
"You were doing your job. We weren't good help."
Crack if a crazy person is walking around with a knife cops are not supposed to stay in their car. It wouldn't matter if the person with the knife were black, white, or Asian. Its not a racial thing. A crazy guy with a knife is a threat that cops are supposed to deal with.
"we weren't good enough help."
Followed by a "Thank you."
You all ostracise gingers and expect nothing...
Like a thigh-sized branch knocking you off your snowboard, the ginger rising narrative will define America's, and the worlds, very future.
You can't stop it.
Strictly for my gingers.
There is, through Jesus Christ The Lord, a Gaelic Storm gathering and performing more than you could possibly fathom.
They are stronger than you, and they will win every single time they are challenged.
You ignorant fools know nothing of Reynolds linkage to http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fianna_Fáil and for that you deserve intrepid scorn and mockery lapidary.
And tattoos of it.
Looks like this Reynolds chap has changed pop culture forever and will be referred to by decent folk as having achieved the rare "living legend" status:
Fictional charactersEdit
Caroline Reynolds, a character from the television series Prison Break
Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Reynolds, a character from the British sitcom It Ain't Half Hot Mum
Kate Reynolds, a fictional character from the movie The Family Man
Dennis, Deandra and Frank Reynolds, fictional characters who own an Irish pub in the TV series It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Matt Reynolds, a character from the movie LA Confidential.
Mrs. Reynolds, the Darcy's housekeeper in Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice
Malcolm Reynolds, the captain of the ship Serenity in the TV series 'Firefly' and the movie 'Serenity'
Eileen Reynolds, Kate Rowan's aunt in the British TV series Heartbeat.
David suggests when we come across
what appears to be a racist comment, we should re-read it with "context, irony and hyperbolic parallelism."
I wonder if it might be beneficial to use David's suggestion when it comes to ISIS's writings.
---We have a centuries-old righteous beef and we're taking it to court - whether you like it or not - just like in South Africa.---
Three hundred thousand white men died to fix your beef. Since the 1960's your fellows have flung away your freedom and dignity.
The 'racist' powers that were let you have Detroit so you could show us how you could be independent and run a civil city. Look how that turned out. The reverse Midas touch.
----And they *told* us to leave.
Of course anybody who understands our foreign relations and negotiations understands that this is not true. Obama deliberately made a hash of negotiations for a SOFA so he could have his withdrawal with honor.
You won't be able to sell this falsehood.
We need to give some of our GBU-43/B "Mother of All Bombs" to explode over Gaza the next time 200 rockets hit Israeli towns overnight. Even hidden rocket launch tubes would become inoperable with the missles themselves. War is hell and choices have to be made as to who will die and who will live. Unfortunately, the civilians who endure Islamic Jihad will die along with the crazies.
Drago,
"Now wait a minute crack.
First, I thought you were living in the East Bay, not SF."
Though I've never said Oakland, or Berkeley, or anything but San Francisco.
"Secondly, dry skin in a humid environment?
I'm no doctor so how exactly does that work?"
Hell if I know - I shot down from Oregon on a rainy day and turned into The Thing. My eyelids were crumbling.
Doctor gave me some cream - said he saw it a lot - cleared it up overnight.
I still don't understand it, but I'm glad it's done:
The shit hurt,....
Drago,
"Your personal stuff is off the record from here on out."
Thank you - now go back to insulting me at your leisure.
I'll buy the beers,..
Crack: "I still don't understand it, but I'm glad it's done:"
Well here's to hoping it's gone for good.
Of course anybody who understands our foreign relations and negotiations understands that this is not true.
Anybody in touch with reality knows that the Iraqi government told us to leave.
Here is a short list of who wanted us out of Iraq:
- Most Iraqis
- Most Americans
- The Iraqi government
- The American government
Now, could the US government have ignored what the American people wanted, and bribed the Iraqi government for the right to have more Americans die protecting Iraqis? Sure. Hell, we're already deep in debt -- we might as well shit away *another* trillion dollars and another ten thousand American lives fighting a war that cannot be won and that we have no stake in.
Bet that would cut the crime rate to almost nothing. Cops show up, see a crime in progress, and just sit in the car and watch.
My experience, with every crime I've witnessed or been the victim of, goes more like:
1. The crime happens
2. Eventually, long after everything's over, the police arrive.
3. They shine their flashlights around and ask some questions.
4. They leave
5. That's the last I hear of it.
This is why I own a gun. If you want to be protected from criminals, buy a gun. If you want to know where the best fast food joints are in the neighborhood, call a cop.
If I remember right, only DTL had the ability to set the fish hook in the mouths of a dozen or more enablers who - determined to argue with DTL, educate him, show him up..Thus destroying thread after thread.
Until Crack surfaced as a distractor with what it seems are 2 dozen enablers that are hooked on joining their pal Crack in stupid circular arguments..Crack. who is even more successful in wielding minority privilege than the strident homo agenda of DTL.
All Crack has to do is say "squirrel" and an oppressed dark-furred squirrel and the droves come forth to jump on their hooks.
Sometimes, I have to double back to the thread title a couple times to remind me what it was supposed to be about.
I think with DTL, we started calling out the enablers by name as idiots who took the bait again and again. That seemed to cut down on the "DSs" "Davids", "Todds", revenents, "Dragos" "tradguys" being hooked fish. Some of those back in DTL's day were suspected to be DTL's sockpuppets.
If I remember right, only DTL had the ability to set the fish hook in the mouths of a dozen or more enablers who - determined to argue with DTL, educate him, show him up..Thus destroying thread after thread.
Until Crack surfaced as a distractor with what it seems are 2 dozen enablers that are hooked on joining their pal Crack in stupid circular arguments..Crack. who is even more successful in wielding minority privilege than the strident homo agenda of DTL.
All Crack has to do is say "squirrel" and an oppressed dark-furred squirrel and the droves come forth to jump on their hooks.
Sometimes, I have to double back to the thread title a couple times to remind me what it was supposed to be about.
I think with DTL, we started calling out the enablers by name as idiots who took the bait again and again. That seemed to cut down on the "DSs" "Davids", "Todds", revenents, "Dragos" "tradguys" being hooked fish. Some of those back in DTL's day were suspected to be DTL's sockpuppets.
Paul,
"crack... are you smoking crack?"
Yes.
"So all 'whites' somehow get together and decide to be racist to blacks in America?"
Yes.
"You are so FOS."
Thank you.
"Like I've said before crack, get a job and get ahead and quit this poor old me stuff."
And, like I've said before, whites have GOT to get it out of their heads that they still tell blacks what to do.
That's like the first fucked-up thing about this whole relationship. A hundred and fifty years after the Emancipation Proclamation and you're still walking around, going "Nigger, Pick that up!"
Earth to white guy - nobody has to listen to you.
"There are blacks that have made it to the top crack."
I know - President - but even he disagrees with you. Somehow you don't get that, though it's a clear indicator you're wrong. I'd consider I'm being an asshole at that point. You're white, and obviously used to white supremacy, so you don't think you CAN be wrong.
You are badly mistaken.
"I know one who is a neurosurgeon, several computer programmers, three who are directors of large departments."
My step-father was Charles MIngus, a name that will last long past anybody you know, and he disagreed with you. Maya Angelou was my babysitter, and a name that will last long past anybody you know, and she disagreed with you, too. I used to walk to school with Ice-T, a name that will last long past anybody you know, and he disagrees with you, too.
Shall I go on?
"Know what they did crack to get there?"
Balloon animals at the County Fair.
"They studied and tried to make something of themselves."
And, because some blacks don't make it, you're assuming they haven't made the effort and, thus, feel entitled to call them losers.
What an asshole.
"Sadly that is what you need to do instead perpetuating this racist screed you give out."
You tell all the families of those who lost everything when whites burned down "Black Wall St." they just didn't work hard enough, O.K.?
Tell the families of slaves that. They didn't work hard enough. Sunrise to sunset, rain or shine, in any condition of health - for centuries - with no pay. They didn't work hard enough for America. Say it. I dare you.
How many black families, from lynching, have members who never existed? Do you calculate that on your tally sheet? How much are generations of people - who whites stole from intact black families - worth? Can that - including the trauma of your neighbors doing that to your family without your country making a peep about it - be washed away by hard work?
You point to the exceptions to condemn the rule - shame on you. Whites use the same twisted sinister logic for reparations - Oh, the price tag is too high so we'll pay NOTHING!
Holding the good hostage to the great, Christopher Hitchens called it. Sure, the price tag is high, but you could do SOMETHING to say whites are decent human beings.
But you choose not to, saying everything we need to know, about you and your "race."
Where are you on red-lining? The United States Government cordoning off black areas as no-go zones for investment or loans? Wanna blame blacks for that - saying that policy fucked them, as whites grew rich off of it, because they didn't work hard enough?
How about the G.I. Bill that blacks were cut out of but that got many white families their first homes - gonna blame that racist policy (and the income gap it engendered) against blacks - or the government that made the policy that punished them?
Are you really the "good guy" you think - with all that added in - still calling blacks names because racist policies still screwed us over?
If a black family, descended from uneducated sharecroppers, couldn't defeat the racist policies of the entire United States Government, are you seriously going to tell me ridicule is the best answer you can come up with, Mr. Friends with a Neurosurgeon and whatnot?
When does your capacity to see this country has always had it in for blacks - under the policy of white supremacy - reach it's "full potential"?
Whenever it is, I'd like to be there:
I'll feel like Oprah, screaming everybody gets a car,...
jr565,
"david, this is the modus operandi for Crack for EVERY conversation. If its about Syria, when Crack weighs in he'll turn it to a discussion on race and reparations. And calling white people wicked. Give it ten topics, and when Crack gets involved it will be about race and reparations and the wickedness of white people."
Because what would it be without me? Oh, the wickedness of Syrians, who I'm pretty sure are lovely people.
But you guys don't talk about people as people. White supremacists. You're people. We're animals. Syrians are probably animals, too. You seriously call people animals and think I should take your discussions seriously as politics. I will not.
I will drive you to see your sick culture, that turns others into animals, for what it is.
The source of all our problems.
And what can do that better than slicing through slavery - America's soft white underbelly?
I just discovered I like saying the word "underbelly."
I gotta go,...
averagejoe,
"Crack Emcee and David have the answer to cops shooting kooks who come at them- Just get back in the car..."
ROTFLMAO!!!! BRILLIANT!!!!
"Sounds like elementary police work."
It does. it does.
"If there's a threat in front of you, just ignore it."
Let's see - what do whites consider a "threat" worthy of death these days so they can sleep comfortably?
1) A dumb teenager who you're too stupid to maneuver around like anybody else would, and
2) A bipolar guy apparently "protecting" two cans of soda. He stole them so about 10 rounds to the chest was a good call.
3) Can't forget the poor father, Eric Garner - committing the flagrant crime of selling cigs for a whole seventy five cents apiece. He deserved to die.
All ended up dead because of fine police work in the black community.
"Sit in the car and watch."
Two teens walking. O.K., walking TOUGH. A crazy gimp daring someone to touch his Dr. Peppers. And a massively over-weight under-a-dollar single-cigarette salesman.
Yeah. Sit in the car and watch. I think the world will survive without lethal force here.
"Bet that would cut the crime rate to almost nothing."
It would cut unnecessary funeral costs. And, to that point, why don't you try this:
Rather than focussing on crime, why don't whites try cutting the amount of trauma they bring to black lives, huh?
It's been 400 years, are you guys ever going to decide to stop? You know, to actually care about not hurting us any more?
Haven't you done enough?
"Cops show up, see a crime in progress, and just sit in the car and watch."
And they'd see two black kids walk down the street, another weirdly protecting two cans of soda, while the third sold a cigarette for pocket change.
I don't see the problem yet.
"You know it works because look how effective it's been just this week in Ferguson, Missouri."
Here's the big lie - Jesus, Dude, you were doing so well. You were wrong, but not offensive. Now you've just lept into Jack-assville for entertainment. I can practically see the screws turning in your skull as you started writing. So transparently racist.
And sad, man.
"Cops stand down and there is nothing but law abiding citizens peacefully protesting, not looting or stealing or shooting each other at all."
AFTER another liar, like this guy, killed a kid for nothing. So dishonest it reeks.
"Zen policing, don't just do something- Sit there!"
Go away. You're a creep. Probably a Nazi. Definitely a liar.
A product of all America vomits when it's ill,...
jr565,
"Crack if a crazy person is walking around with a knife cops are not supposed to stay in their car."
He's protecting two cans of soda. There's a guy there who knows him - who's recording everything - and laughing.
Jesus, jr, grow some humanity,...
Unknown,
"Three hundred thousand white men died to fix your beef."
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait - before you go any further - I gotta know:
Are ALL OF YOU white guys each going to walk in repeating the same shit we've been over like it's new information instead of the same basic white supremacist boilerplate white males have been saying since Andrew Jackson?
If so, tell me now:
I'll cut my hearing aid,...
"Are ALL OF YOU white guys each going to walk in repeating the same shit we've been over like it's new information "
Maybe we are not buying your line of crap, ever wonder about that? Maybe it is just not that convincing to anybody who doesn't dream about his million dollars and a mule.
To me you are like the woman who dreams of a world of only 10% men. She has a long list of grievances too, to rival your Protocols of the Elders of Albion oeuvre you are building here in the comments thread.
Hate Whitey Hate Whitey Hate Whitey. It would be something if Africa had a written history to pore through for grievances, oh wait, the Jihadists burned the great African libraries, didn't they? All that is left is what whites took and preserved.
This is game theory, obviously, and we can't let them dictate our moves. We can't pay them the Dane gelt, it just makes them stronger.
We should continue apace to destroy them, get the Europeans to stop financing them through ransoms, deal with them like the infection that they are, one like AIDS that will never go away completely.
Crack wrote:
"They insult blacks to make THEMSELVES feel good about being white - so I decided to join the game.
Now - according to them - by aping them, I've become the racist."
Well, give us some examples of whites doing that on the boards.and was thst racist? If you say yes, and you are aping them you are insulting whites to make yourself feel good about being black. Don't see why one is bad but the second isn't.
But great, if all you're doing is shtick, lets now get past it and have a real conversation where you're not aping caricatures of your critics.
I think The Professor may owe Crack some Amazon portal dollarz.
We killed Saddam and his sons and then forced out all the Baathist generals, how did that work out?"
Pretty well until Obama and the Democrats fucked it up.
ARM as a man of the left I didn't figure you would be in favor having kept in power an Arab Nazi party. As for the here and now we can continue as is and suffer accordingly, convert to Islam or stop pussyfooting arround and kill them and their supporters until they quit or die. Which is your choice?
Revenant said...
So... "pretty well, actually?"
You are now in full agreement with Dick Cheney and one daughter, Donald Rumsfeld and miscellaneous neocons. August company indeed!
I was startled, at first, to see that, even when it doesn't make any difference, when he's moments from death, he would still repeat the same sorts of things these sorts of captors always demand of their captives.
But I have the impression that one of the games these people like to play is to tell their victims that they're about to be killed, then magnamimously spare them when they do or say the right thing, and I imagine that this scenario played out multiple times in the past and Foley hoped if he cooperated he would be spared at the last minute.
Do you think?
I'd assume so, yes. There's the constant hope that the evil won't kill you.
Which is why it's best to take your chances. Better to die trying to free yourself than to die in submission.
You're dead either way.
The only winning move here is to simply not play. Let the barbarians slaughter one another en masse and just ignore it. Arm Israel to the teeth, remove the leash, and let them do what needs to be done.
We don't want to do it, nor should we. We know somebody who could clean up the problem well but we keep stopping them.
"crack... are you smoking crack?"
"Yes."
Explains it all folks.
He lives in la-la land where all whites confab to suppress his poor old self.
And the idea of getting a job and making something of oneself is, why, racist.
Pool old crack is gonna find all these illegals that are to become citizens will work and make something of themselves and blacks will become more and more marginalized, not cause of some racist conspiracy but because they won't get off their ass and make something of themselves (better to just smoke crack, right crack?)
Well it's your problem crack, not mine. Lots of luck.
"'We killed Saddam and his sons and then forced out all the Baathist generals, how did that work out?'
"Pretty well until Obama and the Democrats fucked it up."
Boy Howdy! Iraq was a democratic utopia after we illegally invaded and destroyed its government, infrastructure, and social cohesion, such that, aside from those being killed in the ensuing sectarian clashes, millions were rendered homeless refugees. Things were humming along just as hoped and predicted!
Until Obama and the Democrats brought it all to ruin!
Yep!
cubanbob said...
Pretty well until Obama and the Democrats fucked it up.
These sad trolling attempts at blame shifting deserve to be ignored but, let's imagine that at the start of Obama's term he appointed Cheney and Rumsfeld as co-viceroys with Brenner as head house boy. Do you think we now would be looking at some fabulous success? Would the American people have supported any of the policies that these nitwits would have attempted to pursue? Of course not. These are the morons who installed Maliki. It would be, if anything, worse given their track record to date.
As incredible as this seems to some of you, some problems do not simply roll over and play dead in the face of US military power.
The Crap Emcee can kiss my ass. Hey stuck-on-stupid, the guy wasn't shot cause he was protecting cans of coke. Hey dumbass, the punk didn't get shot cause he was walking down the street. Hey moron, one got shot for coming at the cops with a knife, the other got shot for punching a cop in the face. And neither would have been confronted by cops if they hadn't committed robbery. That's the answer to being left alone by the police, you racist idiot, don't commit crimes. You don't want police shooting you, don't punch cops in the face, don't come at cops with knives. It's so simple even useless black bullshitters like yourself can do it. I suppose that's too much to expect from someone raised by racist assholes to be a racist asshole, too much ground to give for someone who admires a prejudiced, lynch mob leading, race baiting liar, thief and cheat like Al Sharpton. Fuck you, dumb fucking fool.
The Crap Emcee can kiss my ass. Hey stuck-on-stupid, the guy wasn't shot cause he was protecting cans of coke. Hey dumbass, the punk didn't get shot cause he was walking down the street. Hey moron, one got shot for coming at the cops with a knife, the other got shot for punching a cop in the face. And neither would have been confronted by cops if they hadn't committed robbery. That's the answer to being left alone by the police, you racist idiot, don't commit crimes. You don't want police shooting you, don't punch cops in the face, don't come at cops with knives. It's so simple even useless black bullshitters like yourself can do it. I suppose that's too much to expect from someone raised by racist assholes to be a racist asshole, too much ground to give for someone who admires a prejudiced, lynch mob leading, race baiting liar, thief and cheat like Al Sharpton. Fuck you, dumb fucking fool.
"Boy Howdy! Iraq was a democratic utopia after we illegally invaded and destroyed its government, infrastructure, and social cohesion, such that, aside from those being killed in the ensuing sectarian clashes, millions were rendered homeless refugees. Things were humming along just as hoped and predicted!"
It was better than when Sadaam controlled Iraq, and certainly better than when ISIS controls it. And the current govt may be better than Maliki's govt. If they can hold it.
ARM
Again, let me ask what you think should be done about ISIS. We agree, we stipulate, that the calamity was caused by GWB and the neocons. You are so right and so correct and so on target with that hindsight.
What do you think should be done about ISIS?
France is an interesting case. It is widely acknowledged that France, even under a socialist president, ransoms hostages, thus supplying terrorists with the money they need to continue terrorizing. On the other hand, it is well known that France, even under a socialist president, militarily intervenes in its former colonies any time something happens to jeopardize French interests..
In both cases, "the international community" utters nary a peep. Why?
In a way, Israel does the same thing. They will trade dozens of Palestinian prisoners for one Israeli hostage and lately does not mind killing Palestinian civilians in order to prevent the taking of hostages, all to a chorus of condemnation from "the international community."
Israel has learned, as France and al Qaeda and Hamas and Hezbollah and ISIS have long known, "world opinion" is hypocritical self-serving bullshit.
Would he be now headless without the Iraq war?
Yes. Because radical Islam did not begin with the Iraq war.
An argument could be made, however, that he would have decreased his odds of getting his head cut off if Obama had stood firm on Syria.
averagejoe,
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
Actually from the evidence so far show, the one shot was a actor in a robbery a few hours before and that may have been why he was kind of upset.
The cop DID have severe injuries (facial bones broken) and between that and being charged by the actor that would explain why he shot him.
Many witnesses did back up the cops story and all the forensic evidence does back up his story.
Strangely I've seen some of the locals ask why didn't the cop just shoot to wound... well presuming the cop was a master shot and didn't have facial bones broken, then that dream shot would be theoretically possible. Theoretically, but then were does the bullet go after it passes through the one shot?
Same goes for a warning shot. Where does the bullet go?
The only racist I see in the picture are those who pilled on the WHITE cop cause he shot a BLACK man and didn't wait to see what the evidence was.
Oh and one more thing, one is not 'unarmed' if they are bigger or stronger than the other guy. Fist and feet are most certainly weapons.
During the Cold War the US and USSR played the prisoner swap game. When one side or the other captured an agent who knew too much. The opposing side would round up some hapless spy and trade him for the valuable agent.
ISIS might get "the international community" riled up by using these tactics. Exterminating adherents of an ancient religion and killing American "journalists" does get bad reviews.
No one minded when Stalin and Mao and lesser lights like Ceausescu and Pol Pot killed millions of their own citizens. No one even minded when Hitler first declared millions of his countrymen and women to be non-citizens and proceeded to exterminate them. Only when Hitler had captured practically all of Europe, and Japan, after killing thousands of non-white Chinese and Koreans, attacked Pearl Harbor did the US take action.
Does any one think that Arab or Islamist terrorists don't notice this?
And whites are bloodthirsty savages.
Crack, I'm not sure how the racism helps your argument. You know and I know that race is stupid. You know and I know that when you talk about "whites," you are talking about a billion people you have not met and do not know. Race and racism has always been a stupid prejudice.
I assume you're posing as a racist in order to bring out what you perceive as hidden racism in other people?
But racism itself causes racism. So even if other people agree to your racist suggestions, and start saying racist things against you, what does that prove?
All we know is that people are responding to your racism with racism. (Some people might see that as fair, in a "he started it" sort of way). So how do you know the racism was submerged and hidden, and you simply activated it? Maybe the racism wasn't there at all. And you planted the seed.
Another way to think about it is in terms of equality. And equality is a religious idea, an idea about free will and all of us being children of God.
There is the Old Testament view of equality: "an eye for an eye."
And there is the New Testament view of equality: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
The Old Testament view appeals to a lot of people. You see how some people might think it is fair to respond to racism with racism?
I prefer the New Testament idea, which is far more subtle and interesting. We're under orders to ignore how other people treat us. We are supposed to act to other people in the way we would like them to act to us.
Maya Angelou was your babysitter?
I guess she did used to be a hooker back in the day. Is that how she knew your mother?
jr565,
"If you say yes, and you are aping them you are insulting whites to make yourself feel good about being black."
jr, the last thing you want to do is pretend you're capable of twisting me up in my own logic.
Logic escapes you,...
Crack is "aping?"
Racist.
Paul,
"He lives in la-la land where all whites confab to suppress his poor old self.
The idea of getting a job and making something of oneself is, why, racist."
The idea of whites working - or even doing their own work - is what's new in this country, Dude. That's why whites hate history:
It reveals they be laaaaaaaaa-zy.
Fight and die just to make someone else do their work.
Then blacks left the South to go get your precious "job" - whites set the house on fire. Burned a cross on the front lawn.
But that's O.K. with you because they didn't "confab to suppress" anybody - THEY JUST WENT CRAZY.
And you think we - we - should go out now and try to relate?
You poor ignorant boob.
"Pool old crack is gonna find all these illegals that are to become citizens will work and make something of themselves and blacks will become more and more marginalized, not cause of some racist conspiracy but because they won't get off their ass and make something of themselves (better to just smoke crack, right crack?)"
How many times have I written here about working with illegals? About how well we get along - hating the white men who rip them off for their pay - specifically because they're illegal?
Can you understand why, just like with white's previous racist agenda, to seduce hispanics to the Republican Party - in light of my personal experience - I don't think it's going to work out like the white racist's say or expect?
I think it's going to work out like Romney's election.
Or the government shut-down (Stick by your "principles," guys!)
Or ending ObamaCare.
Or BENGHAZI!!!!
Or Rick Perry's presidential chances.
Or Rand Paul's.
Or Chris Christie's.
Or Ted Cruz.
Or any white agenda what-so-ever.
Seems to me, if anyone's got a "job" to get to, it's whites.
"Well it's your problem crack, not mine. Lots of luck."
You're gonna need it,...
averagejoe,
"That's the answer to being left alone by the police, you racist idiot, don't commit crimes."
I can see how YOU learned that lesson - that's what white people tell you and show you and have convinced you is true - but they've taught us something different:
If you commit crimes the cops leave you alone.
"In all cases not one white person was ever convicted of murdering a Black person regardless of how horrible their crimes."
See?
I think - since they're racist - whites taught us that to get us killed,...
Basically you are with Jason, who said he wants to see Crack gone. Banish the dissenters or make them conform, right?
No, dumbass. Just the ones who can't stay on topic and make every thread either unreadable, all about themselves, or both.
Dissenting has nothing to do with it.
Paul,
Reaching out to averagejoe - good. Whites need to stick together during this difficult time.
"Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel."
Because nobody knows how whites feel. It's been the mystery of American life for centuries.
"Actually from the evidence so far show, the one shot was a actor in a robbery a few hours before and that may have been why he was kind of upset."
He was bipolar and, if there was so much danger, why was the black kid who took the video footage laughing?
You're cowards.
"The cop DID have severe injuries (facial bones broken) and between that and being charged by the actor that would explain why he shot him."
Sigh. From Hot Air, the NUmber 1 Conservative News Analysis website - and I quote:
"I want to make sure after yesterday’s post that everyone knows it’s still in dispute whether Wilson’s eye socket was actually fractured in his altercation with Michael Brown."
Man, Paul, you stay so informed - It's no wonder you've appointed yourself as white's go-to guy.
"Many witnesses did back up the cops story and all the forensic evidence does back up his story."
I'm going to "back you up" one day.
"Strangely I've seen some of the locals ask why didn't the cop just shoot to wound... well presuming the cop was a master shot and didn't have facial bones broken, then that dream shot would be theoretically possible."
Whites know so much about killing. What's possible. How best to accomplish it. Kill shots.
Just lovely human beings.
"Theoretically, but then were does the bullet go after it passes through the one shot?"
"A brief history of the United States of America"
"Same goes for a warning shot. Where does the bullet go?"
Africa.
"The only racist I see in the picture are those who pilled on the WHITE cop cause he shot a BLACK man and didn't wait to see what the evidence was."
Obviously, two more of Rick Perry's friends: "No one thought anything about it.”
"
"Oh and one more thing, one is not 'unarmed' if they are bigger or stronger than the other guy."
I mean, you have TWO of them!
"Fist and feet are most certainly weapons."
And, in this case, your head can be used as a rock,..
Saint Croix,
"How do you know the racism was submerged and hidden, and you simply activated it? Maybe the racism wasn't there at all. And you planted the seed."
Don't care - I get to kill it once it shows up.
Priorities,...
Don't care - I get to kill it once it shows up.
So you're making racist comments, trying to inspire racism in other people, so you can kill their racism when it shows up?
It sounds circular (and never-ending).
The Crack Emcee said...
Saint Croix,
"How do you know the racism was submerged and hidden, and you simply activated it? Maybe the racism wasn't there at all. And you planted the seed."
Don't care - I get to kill it once it shows up.
Priorities,...
8/22/14, 1:03 PM
Hahahahahahaaaaaa.
Good one, Crack! What? That was not meant to be funny? Oh, sorry, never mind...
Tell us more about how you are lauded as a genius Crack. And about that lucrative art career that made you such a wealthy man.
"But you're not being fair - we're not African. Whites saw to that."
You blacks crack. Go look in the mirror.
There is a performance "artist" up in Canada whose "art" is throwing his own blood on the paintings of real artists.
Like all performance "artists" that guy has zero talent of his own.
He is notorious for his stupidity.
The performance artist diminishes art, takes any topic and trivializes it.
" As for the Special Operations activities, I infer that when they don't work, we don't hear about them ..."
You shouldn't hear about them at all, successful or failure. The correct formula should be "... when they're beneficial to the Obama narrative."
He and Biden are walking security violations.
Paul,
"You blacks crack. Go look in the mirror."
What does that have to do with being African? We're not. We're not even black in Africa - we're brown.
You guys keep up with this weird obsession to take an American circle and fit it in your African square and, I swear, blacks will NEVER like you.
Stop - it's silly,...
Michael,
"The performance artist diminishes art, takes any topic and trivializes it."
Says the guy who makes NO art at all.
Credentials? Anyone? Anyone? No? No credentials? No pieces for others to critique and compare? No?
No - just a liar with a big mouth.
As usual,....
Crack: "Credentials? Anyone? Anyone? No? No credentials?"
What are you? The Ministry of Culture?
Crack: "No pieces for others to critique and compare? No?"
That's better. I think you were going for Resume or work portfolio, not credentials.
Even with all his schtick there is no way crack would advocate for credentialed "overseers" for artists.
"What does that have to do with being African? We're not. We're not even black in Africa - we're brown. "
Sorry crack, but you are b.. l.. a.. c.. k.. just like the ones in Africa. DNA will show that's a fact.
And the racist deeds done by the blacks in Africa, including capturing other tribes blacks and selling them in to slavery, shows that the taint of slavery is everywhere, just as racism is.
And that is just one reason why you need to throw off the yoke of this slavery shtick and start getting ahead in life.
And you get ahead in life by doing. You get ahead by working hard, saving, sending ones kids to school.
And if you keep trying to fit this white racism square into your black guilt circle you will just never get out of the ghetto you have put yourself in.
For that is where you are now crack, in your own ghetto of self-victimization.
It's simple as that crack. That and get off drugs.
Here's the strategy, the same one we should have used in Fallujah in 2004, the second battle. Announce we're coming in. Allow all the civilians to leave, so that all the ISIS fighters are dug in, waiting to ambush, explode IEDs and so forth. At H-hour, D-day, our troops make a 180 degree turn and we drop a 20 kiloton nuke on ISIS.
Paul,
"It's simple as that crack. That and get off drugs."
HR40 comes back in January, just like every year.
We will see how firmly your arguments hold up then,....
It ain't gonna happen crack.
You had your reparations with 50 years or so of welfare (and see what good that did ya?)
Nope, might as well as Egypt to give reparations to the Jews for they years of slavery thousands of years ago or Italy for the slaves they had during Roman times.
Ain't gonna happen, so how about you just get a job and start making something of yourself?
And crack, you can make victims out of all kinds of supposed 'disadvantaged' or abused people.
Why handicapped people have been abused for centuries. Retarded to. Indians, Chinese, even the Irish and Italians were considered dirt for many decades and discriminated against.
Heck, even the Eskimos were.
So this reparation shtick won't fly crack.
Dream on.
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