ADDED: Planned Parenthood responds:
"Within three days of this patient interaction, the staff member’s employment was ended and all staff members at this affiliate were immediately scheduled for retraining in managing unusual patient encounters...."Then why did they fire the staff member? I'm guessing the problem was that she colluded with the "patient" about how to extract money from Medicaid and services from the OB doctor in her effort to find out whether she was pregnant with a girl.
This spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood Federation of America [said] that the organization condemns seeking abortions on the basis of gender, but its policy is to provide “high quality, confidential, nonjudgmental care to all who come into” its health centers. That means that no Planned Parenthood clinic will deny a woman an abortion based on her reasons for wanting one, except in those states that explicitly prohibit sex-selective abortions (Arizona, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Illinois).
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 216 of 216Who knew that "Women's reproductive health care" involved abortion due to being pregnant with baby of the wrong sex?
Anyways, so what? Kill it or don't. Why should the reason matter at all?
And so what if there was "fraud"? The only fraud was in pushing some arm of "health care" to pay for it.
Under Obamacare, we will soon be under a global payment system, so this won't be fraud soon enough.
Either what PP is doing is a problem, or it isn't. PP just needs to bide its time until this no longer a fraud.
Until then we can all nod and agree that this is Something Important. In 10 years it will be Nothing Important.
Yeah, guys? That 3% number? They only come to that by counting all the various services related to the actual abortion as discrete events.
Let's say, for example, that a woman comes in to have an abortion. In the course of that event, she undergoes:
*intake interview/counselling
*domestic violence screening
*review of eligibility for benefits
*PAP smear
*blood typing
*STD testing
*pre-procedure pelvic exam
*breast exam
*ultrasound exam
*actual D&C
*post-procedure pelvic exam
*exit interview
*birth control prescription
*counselling/mental health referral
Wow, gee whiz, only 1 out of 14 services that PP provides is an abortion!
(deleted and reposted because I thought of another possible "service.)
retraining in managing unusual patient encounters....
Code for "How not to get get caught."
Multi level marketers pushing health products get trained how not to get caught practicing medicine without a license.
As per the discussion the other day ... this is "wrong."
But on a more serious note -- choice is always such an anguished decision for the mother getting an abortion. It's so awful to choose, but it isn't a baby after all, right? Well, apparently if it's a GIRL she isn't a baby, so don't sweat the small stuff. We know how hard this is.
Got it. It's all about YOU.
No, but what is the point of the test drive? It is to provide information about the driving experience to the person who requested it. The dealership hopes that this information will make a purchase more likely, certainly.
Similarly, the point of an ultrasound is to provide information to the patient/doctor. It seems like Althouse thinks that this information shouldn't be provided so long as the mother is going to make a decision which Althouse disagrees with and that depends on the information.
"Freeman Hunt said...you applied the term in a context, presumably self defense, that I did not."
To clarify - if you believe that abortion is murder, then there are no exceptions for the mother's life or anything else. If the procedure is murder there are no gray areas left in any context. That's why it's dangerous to use that term. The doctor performing a legal and in some cases necessary procedure becomes the "murderer". And then some nut-job decides that if the state won't do anything, he'll save those unborn babies by killing the doctor or bombing a clinic.
Obviously, Dave has never seen Justified.
Dave, how many pregnant nine year olds do you suppose it would take to cover up fifty million dead babies?
You think using the term "murder" is dangerous? On behalf of fifty million dead babies, I'd like to argue that it's the not using it that's been dangerous.
Dave, I understand your reasoning with using the term murder, which I myself used. I agree it could spur on an unstable person to commit murder of health care professionals that perform abortions or work in facilities that perform abortions. I agree it's not a prudent use of the word in relation to abortion, despite my opinion that life begins at conception.
Why would such a person necessarily be "unstable?"
Allie Oop wrote:
IF these videos aren't some Breibart type doctored videos...
What evidence, other than your own fevered imagination, do you have that even suggests Breibart or any of his associates have ever altered a video?
If aborting a fetus because it will eventually become a female is wrong, why isn't it wrong to abort a fetus if it will eventually become a person?
I'm always told by the pro-choice people that the future states of the fetus's development are irrelevant, since right now it isn't a person. So what's wrong with aborting a fetus because of its future sex? It isn't a person now; there's literally no person that's even capable of being harmed, or of doing harm to (under the pro-choice argument).
Allie Oop wrote:
OK, Nick, I took a cheap shot, I'm guilty as hell, so can we discuss the topic now?
Apology accepted, Allie Oop.
Dave wrote:
In some cases abortion is a health care issue and there is no reasonable choice. Most notably when the health or life of the mother is in jeopardy. Also, Planned Parenthood does not provide abortions. However, abortion IS a legal procedure in the United States. PP provides information about that legal procedure.
Handy dandy Dave, always johnny-on-the-spot with the standard lefty boilerplate.
Dave wrote:
In some cases abortion is a health care issue and there is no reasonable choice. Most notably when the health or life of the mother is in jeopardy. Also, Planned Parenthood does not provide abortions. However, abortion IS a legal procedure in the United States. PP provides information about that legal procedure.
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