January 5, 2012
"A crusty loaf of whole-grain bread is both ferociously lesbian and wildly heterosexual."
A quote from Simon Doonan, the author of "Gay Men Don't Get Fat." Interesting to lump lesbians and heterosexuals together and put gay men in the separate category, isn't it? Of course, Doonan is purveying broad stereotypes — for comic effect and, undoubtedly, to make the money that is to be made in books about how to get/stay thin — but it makes some sense.
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He obviously never took a look at Harvey Fierstein.
I find this Doonan character boring and inauthentic. It's almost as if he's impersonating himself.
Perhaps it's because I've never embraced gayness as a cultural concept (as opposed to a sexual one).
No, it doesn't make sense, but that doesn't matter. Middle aged women (NYT readers) will buy his book because they associate gayness with glamour, not because his dieting ideas actually work. Just more pop culture gimcrackery.
I figure that fish tacos and oysters are ferociously lesbian.
Peter
Maguro comes up with a good and quick explanation. Also, young gay men who worry about being trendy will probably buy into his pronouncements and deprive themselves for the sake of fitting in and staying thin.
Meanwhile, I will continue to make my crusty whole-grain sourdough breads!
Crusty loaves are more a sign of dehydration than sexual orientation.
This is not a serious newspaper....for even more reasons than just the hard news articles.
Methinks you need a WTF? tag,
Isn't this the sad culmination of every modern civil rights movement?
Use the force of law to have the rest of society walking on eggshells to not only tolerate but accommodate your lifestyle.
Meanwhile, you can be an openly chauvinistic bigot who sees a potential straight in every plate of food.
Never heard of the whole Bear movement? Gay men get fat.
Andrew Sullivan helped break the whole bear thing to the straight public here.
Yeah, the crystal meth and bulimia do keep the weight down.
Gay guys can be HUGE. The type of gay guy he's thinking of has a tremendous pressure to stay youthful and attractive to young male visual tastes- just like women. And it works better if they're rich and/or a meth dealer - just like men.
What gay guys aren't, in my experience, is true health nuts - except perhaps for that short blip in time before the cocktail became workable and they had to present as healthy. (Roids aren't healthy...)
In a scene left on the cutting room floor, I give you
"Brokeback Mountain"...
"Cowboy #1: "Hey Bart! Know the difference between my dick and a chicken leg?"
Cowboy #2: "No Clem, I don't."
Cowboy #1: "Wanna' go on a picnic Saturday?"
One of my closest friends in high school came out of the closet 'bout 3 decades ago to me. He, if anything, was, and is, in worse shape than me. I don't think he, and his S.O. really give a crap about the things NYC gays consider fasionable. (his SO is ex-marine). That suits just fine in my book.
Just another queer selling out for a few straight dollars in my book.(this author)
he author of "Gay Men Don't Get Fat."
Does he mean except Elton John?
And wildly ornithological, methinks.
Bird brain.
Doonan doesn't exactly look like the picture of health, whether he's packing a few extra pounds or not - why should anyone take his eating advice seriously?
wv: moickera - have we come to the end of our moick era?
Could it be that all gay men are actually French women? Or vice versa?
And let's not forget Barnery Frank.
Perhaps a more realistic title would be "Golddiggers Shouldn't Get Fat"
Gay men don't get fat? Tell the bears that.
I recently heard that gay men don't drink brown liquour. Never heard that one before. A gay guy told me.
Trey
I recently heard that gay men don't drink brown liquour. Never heard that one before. A gay guy told me.
Wife's best friend is gay. Pretty much vodka and beer only. And mimosas.
EMD, dark beer?
8)
It is silly me talking about gay folks and their choice of liquour when we should be talking about how good their weed is.
Everyone knows the gay guys have the best pot.
8)
Trey
Trey
EMD, dark beer?
I'll venture to say no, but he's not a beer snob. Miller Lite, Bud Light, etc.
But maybe those aren't even really beer, now that I think about it.
One of my closest friends in high school came out of the closet 'bout 3 decades ago to me. He, if anything, was, and is, in worse shape than me.
Same here. My friend constatnly tells me that gays are superior to us lowly heterosexuals in every way. He also happens to weigh close to 400 lbs. Go figure.
Barney.
Frank.
Mr. Doonan is promoting an old stereotype about super-fit body-conscious gay men. Why would he do this? Well, because he wants to promote the absurd notion that they (he) are better people than the other animals in the barnyard, simply because they're gay.
It's that simple and that unfunny.
To be even mildly funny it would have to be based in truth and it is not. There are a lot of fat gay dudes. Trust a San Franciscan on this one. There's an entire gay dude subculture devoted to fat gay dudes. These are people we're talking about, not stereotypes.
Also, Andrew. Sullivan.
Apart from his ignorance of what really causes obesity -- bread and sugar -- his premise ignores the "bear" phenomenon in gay society. Like so many liberal shibboleths, the thin gay man probably remains stylish only on the coasts and wherever liberals remain the majority. State capitals mostly.
Why does the term "ferociously lesbian" turn me on?
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