September 28, 2011

"As the testimony proceeded, Mr. Loughner rarely made eye contact with others in the courtroom, sometimes peering at the witness out of the corner of his eye."

"For the most part, he remained stone-faced and still in his seat. Every now and then, his eyes would close for extended periods, then pop open when he heard his name mentioned. Dr. Pietz said the defendant was devastated when doctors told him that he was mentally ill. He did not want to believe it, she said."


Fred4Pres said...

He needs to be locked up. Forever.

edutcher said...

Oh, yes, he's perfectly sane.

Like the guy who told every one of his followers to commit suicide in time for the comet to come around.

Quaestor said...

Devasted. That's a textbook reaction of a paranoid schizophrenic.

ic said...

Watch this:

especially the ending before branding Loughner insane. He may just be a sociopath, psychopath, or whatever-path that needs to be locked up or executed to remove a source of green house gas.

Quaestor said...

Getting the patient to come to terms with his delusions as just that and not the gifts of protean insight, revelations from God, etc. is a real battle. Most never get to that stage and remain ill from the rest of their lives.

chickenlittle said...

In the thousands of years we've studied killers like Loughner have we learned anything that helped prevent further killings?

I was just getting used to the trend when these types offed themselves, sparing us all.

Hoosier Daddy said...

"... He needs to be locked up. Forever..."

Why? He's just wasting our oxygen.

Rialby said...

I say we give him a choice. Lock him in a room with a knife and a gun.

Tari said...

I feel a thousand times worse for his victims than I do for him, but if he really is as ill as his doctors are saying, what hell is it to be locked inside his head? I can't even imagine how horrible it would be to be told you are that ill and then to be able to do nothing about it.

A. Shmendrik said...

Crazier than a shithouse rat, he is!

Job said...

Why not feel bad for Loughner?

Loughner didn't ask to be schizophrenic. Could happen to any of us, or our children. A bad gene went haywire, so does he.

Palladian said...

Job said... "Why not feel bad for Loughner?"

Didn't those boils teach you anything?

chickenlittle said...

A bad gene went haywire, so does he.

Aborting those with a "killer gene" would be ironic.

paul a'barge said...

Death penalty.

TCB-n-a-Flash said...

MSNBC is reporting that he sat in his chair and kept repeating, "Sarah Palin made me do it..."

Freeman Hunt said...

The whole thing is sad.

Can you imagine waking up to a reality where you're a murderer?


David said...

He's not evil? Or is a homicidal insanity one of the forms of evil, even though our justice system might not hold him criminally responsible?

I gather the issue now is whether he can stand trial at all, whether he has the capacity to understand the proceedings and assist in his own defense.

Could he be faking it? Can the doctors be fooled? (Well, almost certainly in the abstract, but can Loughner fool them?)

Until fairly recently he would have been put to death rather quickly. Lincoln was shot on April 14 and Booth's convicted conspirators were executed on July 7. Justice is far more deliberate nowadays. That may make us feel more comfortable about our society, but I doubt that it makes much difference for Mr. Loughner.

Unless he is faking, in which case it makes a huge difference to him.

The Crack Emcee said...

"He did not want to believe it."

I've told you beliefs were at the heart of most of our problems. This guy may be Exhibit "A," but he's no different from everyone else in that respect, so I wouldn't bother trying to look down on him. He doesn't think Jesus walked on water. As far as I know, he didn't vote for Obama. He's not reported to have ever bought anything from Whole Foods, gone "green" (and thought public "nudging" in that direction is a good, or makes you good if you submit) or regarded women as "goddesses." He's not engaged in a scam, or fraud, doesn't think he can keep getting "married" over and over again, or tried to scare the world through global warming hysteria. He's just got other nonsensical "beliefs," but many of the things I just listed also resulted in someone's death, so there's no difference to me:

You're all crazy.

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tree hugging sister said...

Freeman Hunt

You're so right. Horrific.

Having been brought up by a bi-polar paranoid schizophrenic (Of course, that was in the 60's/70's ~ we didn't have a name for it then. Just thought we'd lost the toss.), entirely plausible and entirely horrific.

God bless his victims and, quite honestly, God damn the dewy eyed do-gooders who turned these lunatics loose on society, where their rights to be crazy trump ours to live lives free of torture and fear.

Job said...

"God bless his victims and, quite honestly, God damn the dewy eyed do-gooders who turned these lunatics loose on society, where their rights to be crazy trump ours to live lives free of torture and fear."

Yes. Double yes. Triple yes.

"Aborting those with a "killer gene" would be ironic."

It would be ironic. And evil. I am not advocating aborting anyone. Psychiatric care? Yes.

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