"From the foregoing samples, you may better understand why the court does not plan to permit televising oral arguments any time soon."Are you kidding? This is why it should be on television?
You know, the fabulous 7th Circuit judge Richard A. Posner wrote a great chapter titled "What Am I? A Potted Plant?"
And I just saw a potted plant on television.
Now, the potted plant was scintillating compared to the live — that is, barely animated — speech by President Obama that preceded it. But the point is: We want the Supreme Court on TV!
Bring on the 9,000 cows! We're dying out here in TV-land!
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The SCOTUS Justices fear being cut and pasted into U-tube hit pieces with Kathy Griffin commentary.
The Justices get might pushy in oral argument.
They better keep it secret.
Nah, considering how liberals react to things, I'd rather just leave the court the way it is.
We don't want any more trouble,...
No thanks.
No feudal lord was ever such a control freak over his fief as a judge is over his (her) courtroom.
Ask anyone who's ever had to provide supporting services at a courthouse. There's a large number of petty tyrants among the judiciary.
I can well imagine they wouldn't want that behavior televised.
I think too much courtroom drama would choke out reality. And, none of the justices would be candidates for stardom.
If there were TV's at the Supreme Court, the pressure on a president to install Judge Judy would be enormous.
There's also the downside of lost respect. And, the crazy crowds that would show up with their stinking balloons ... when there was a case that had public opinion in an uproar.
While, sometimes ... take Kelo, for instance ... nobody could believe Souter or Anthony Kennedyis vote.
If your face is on TV alot ... and you do a KELO ... you wouldn't be safe walking around anymore.
So, I say, NO TV. Not worth the price.
So we can watch Ruth Bader Ginsburg nap or so we can see Elena Kagan and the Wise Latina work their womanly wiles on Anthony Kennedy (or each other, for that matter)?
I think I'd rather be chained to a chair for the rest of my life watching endless reruns of "Charmed".
Ask anyone who's ever had to provide supporting services at a courthouse. There's a large number of petty tyrants among the judiciary.
There's way too much risk with the parade of defendants that may be violent/crazy/vengeful/ignorantly self-righteous to permit shenanigans in the courtroom. It is the judge's turf, and necessarily so.
Now, if you're talking about a judge being pissed off because her Coca-Cola is the wrong temperature, then I agree. But I'd worked in hospitals for many years and saw many an M.D. with the same disposition. You'd like to string 'em up, but...
Much like Bradley's physical and then media attack of Prosser, televising the Supreme Court arguments would only serve to further erode already low opinions of the justice system.
I can see the new Justice Nancy Grace now getting into Clarence Thomas's face about murdered woman and children.
That Nancy doesn't believe that guilty people have any rights.
Who will hold her back if she is on TV?
The Court has to maintain its mystique to command respect, like the Brits' pre-Charles-Dianna Royal Family. In other words, you don't want to know what they put in your hotdogs, or see how the French chef arrange your order of stylish cuisine with his ungloved hands.
I don't know, Prof. Althouse. Cow questions in the Supreme Court? That could be udderly disastrous, rendering any decision mooot.
Bring on the 9,000 cows! We're dying out here in TV-land!
All the more reason to keep it off TV, to preclude the justices from pandering to entertainment bulimics.
No, I see no reason to comply with the prurient interests of law professors for televised USSC proceedings.
Sausage-making isn't all that interesting after the first time observing it. I'm satisfied with consuming the results.
Besides, if we want causes for outrage, we can tune in to Nancy Grace and her coterie of whacko lawyers.
This would make Judge Ito a possible SC candidate.
All I can say is Oyez.org, Oyez.org, Oyez.org. It's not live, but the ability to listen to oral arguments on that site is a real treat!
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Why aren't there more mom-killing-their-babies and abducted-and-murdered-young-women cases?
(And 20 years later we see the Garafolo administration nominate Judge Judy for a seat on SCOTUS.)
Enough with questions! We want answers!
(So, where is the 9,000 foot cow?)
I am trying to visualize a cow with 9,000 feet.
These proceedings are "public." Open to the public. Not secret. Not done behind closed doors. It is a difficult argument to credit that the judges should be permitted to restrict the distribution of a public proceeding merely because technology will permit the proceeding to be available to millions instead of 30 who line up to get a seat.
Gag.
Now, the potted plant was scintillating compared to the live — that is, barely animated — speech by President Obama that preceded it.
Double OUCH!! Don't vote for him next time.
forget about supreme court on TV, now how can we untelevise Obama?
"Don't vote for him next time."
Please just picture John McCain dealing with this. Or do you think we'd never be in this predicament. Ah, but you are right then. There would never have been a Tea Party movement, and McCain would've played nice with the Democrats who would still control both houses of Congress, and.... ????
Well, I guess the big old stimulus wouldn't have happened. (Or would it?) I suppose there wouldn't be the healthcare reform looming. (Or would it???)
I don't know. Please plot out the alternative reality so I can compare it.
I don't know. Please plot out the alternative reality so I can compare it.
I don't think McCain will run again in 2012.
There are way too many combinations and permutations to predict what would be happening now w/ a McCain presidency. It was a good plot device for Frank Capra in It's a Wonderful Life, but real life doesn't work that way.
Please just picture John McCain dealing with this. Or do you think we'd never be in this predicament. Ah, but you are right then. There would never have been a Tea Party movement
Not sure I see or agree that there would never have been a Tea Party movement in a McCain presidency.
And if this is so then that would suggest that at its core, the Tea Party movement is solely "Anti-Obama". The latest drama in the House indicates that its more than just "Anti-Obama" or "Anti-democrat"
"It was a good plot device for Frank Capra in It's a Wonderful Life, but real life doesn't work that way."
Yes, but I will continue to respond like this every time anyone bitches about my voting for Obama.
Familiarity breeds contempt.
@Althouse...don't think you were being asked to change your vote...you were being reminded you are seeing what is happening.
The given is that you now know what is happening and that would drive your decision making. If your, "I can't see it with just hypothetical" argument held water, it would mean you will automatically vote for anyone except Obama...as he's the known bad actor...the rest is just hypothetical.
Which is how you made your rational decision last time. Don't know about Obama but know McCain is bad.
And now you hypothesize that McCain would be worse but can't hypothisize against known bad actor Obama.
One thing for sure, it's a raionale but not rational.
My favorite law professor, somewhat noted, something of a gadfly, suggested that televised proceedings are bad because the camera's presence changes the nature of the proceedings themselves. People act and speak differently knowing that their actions and words are filmed.
Who watches TV?
I now understand your strategy now, professor. May I suggest a simpler, "Go shit in your hat" retort to people who bust your ass about your vote. It worked well for my mom..she didn't take any shit.
Voting for the winner has consequences. That's why I only vote for losers.
Won't you let them pick their noses in peace?
I doubt McCain would have run up $4 trillion in new debt in 2.5 years, even with a Dem Congress. But I've come to believe that if GHWB had been reelected in '92, conservatism and the cause of limited government would have been in much worse shape through the 90's (likewise for GWB). So in the long run, we may be better off with Obama than McCain. The big question is: Is Obama Hoover or FDR, or just Carter?
Here's hoping 2012 is decisive, and much of Obama's crap can be undone. Too bad about the debt.
All I can say is Oyez.org, Oyez.org, Oyez.org. It's not live, but the ability to listen to oral arguments on that site is a real treat!
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