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Battle on the ice is with the Teutonic Knights and occurs some years after the battle on the Neva with the Swedes.
Alexander was a big war hero before the Teutons marched in.
Actually I do know them and they insist that non-believers go to hell.
What in the fuck are you talking about?
You're really walking around worried about hell?
You are a complete, total fake.
Here's your problem. You've got some sort of sex hangup and you need somebody to blame. Assholes like you with some sort of sex hangup like to blame evangelicals for whatever in the fuck it is that you imagine they are doing to your sex life.
To repeat, quit being an asshole. Evangelicals aren't doing a damned thing to you.
"Are you the same sad little "ethan" who's been showing up here spewing resentment for 5 years or so: link."
bwahahahahaha
And yeah, conservatives like me get that Althouse is not very conservative. So what? I mean, aside from me thinking she's not as conservative as my opinions, of course.
"If Palin does decide to make a go of it, she's behind the curve in preparedness. She has no bundlers set up to raise money for a campaign, no district offices in key primary states like Iowa to build the buzz . . ."
They're joking, right?
Evangelicals aren't insisting that anyone go to hell. Evangelicals want everyone NOT to go to hell.
It's interesting to me that predestinationists (like Camping) insist that you're going to hell no matter what, but because they don't try to save you, they end up being more acceptable.
*shrug*
As far as the asinine claim that Johnny Carson and Chevy Chase caused Jimmy Carter to beat Gerald Ford in the wake of Watergate, well, it's stupid. There's nothing more to say.
Chevy Chase and the joke about Ford bumping his head and falling were pretty devastating; very much like Tina Fey and her line about seeing Russia from my porch.
As far as her attraction for gays, maybe some of them know that she vetoed a bill that would have ended medical benefits for same sex partners. A lot of the conventional wisdom about her, like book banning, is not true.
Alex...If a Christian says that an atheist is going to go to hell, then just refuse to go. That will teach them. Sarah is experienced enough in Christian life to never attack her customers...which are the atheists. Where else can Christians get members except from among unbelievers who hear the word and believe. In China, there are 25,000 new converts a week coming from atheists turned into Christian believers.
Who would we rather look at for the next four years? Michelle or Sarah?
Shouting Thomas asked...
Julius even lives near Woodstock, right?
Rightie-o! I could bomb your house from here, S.T., if I had a rocket launcher...
My first vote for Pres was for Jimmy Carter, to my eternal shame. This is one argument for denying the franchise to anyone younger than 25, unless they can pass a literacy test. But I digress.
Do you know why I voted for Carter? Because I felt embarrassed at the thought of having a president who fell down stairs all the time and hit people with golf balls.
WV: penie. I voted for Carter, but it turned out he was a penie.
"I'm a little confused about how all the illiterates who hang out here stay so hard for Annie Althouse even though she's, like, never voted for a Republican." - ethan
Indeed, you sound more confused than Willie Nelson in an Amsterdam coffee house. It should be painfully obvious that one doesn't come here because the good Professor is a bastion of conservatism; rather for the ecclectic ensemble of commenters she has compiled. Plus Meade is willing to lay in dog poop to snap some really cool photos.
"stay so hard for Annie"
Well, because she's hawt.
"illiterate"
This is why you won't be taken seriously.
There is a lot of discussion in this thread regarding SNL defining Gerald Ford. I thought there would be more discussion of SNL defining Sarah Palin.
As far as I am concerned, Tina Fey killed Palin's ability to ever win the Presidency even if she were to win the GOP nomination.
SNL came hard at her with Fey and did some very good, but very damaging send ups that had the effect of defining Palin that first month or two on the scene in 2008 rather than Palin defining herself.
Part of that is due to the fact Palin was susceptible to being defined. I just wonder if she will be able to overcome it. As much as the Palinbots wish otherwise, their candidate will go nowhere until a segment of the GOP and virtually all independent voters come to a different interpretation on the Tina Fey definition of Sarah.
Alex said...
Titus is a moby. No gay person would ever vote for Sarah Palin.
Try looking at Hillbuzz Alex. You don't know what you are talking about.
Just curious -- Does anybody remember how things turned out for the Delaware Senate candidate Palin supported? You know, the one a certain segment of "the base" was crazy over...
I don't remember Palin supporting a candidate for the Senate in Delaware. In fact, it was noted at the time that Palin specifically did NOT help Christine O'Donnell in Delaware, and said very little about her beyond the token support that Republicans tend to give each other.
Swedes are OK now that we beat them 6-1 in the Hockey Game recently (World Cup).
Onnea Suomi!
An American living in Finland. So many stereotypes about the Finns.
Finns, very hard working. Finland finding her identity after so many years between Russia and Sweden.
Finnish one of the hardest languages I've attempted.
Finland is not for sissies.
kiitos
Thanks, Pamela :) Nice words. (And probably true too). Glad you like it, summer should be coming any day now.
Michael K -- You are simply wrong about Ford and Carter.
In the first 200 comments, someone linked to any interesting set of graphics showing that Ford and Carter were in a statistical dead heat at the election. However, if you look at the data, in the summer before the election, Carter was up something like 65 percent to 35 percent.
Therefore, we can only conclude, if Chevy Chase and Johnny Carson were so influential, that they influenced voters to vote for Ford. Because the clear evidence shows people switching late to Ford.
As for Tina Fey, I agree it was devastating. Perhaps if Palin had been able to define herself nationally better, Fey would not have been able to define her so well.
Palin endorsed O'Donnell in the primary:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sarah-palin-endorses-christine-odonnell
"Do you think Sarah Palin accepts atheists?" - Alex
You may need to elaborate on "accepts", but if she treated you different than anyone else, she would demonstrate she doesn't grasp the basis tenets of her faith.
However, if you look at the data, in the summer before the election, Carter was up something like 65 percent to 35 percent.
Therefore, we can only conclude, if Chevy Chase and Johnny Carson were so influential, that they influenced voters to vote for Ford.
This would be a much more persuasive argument were it not for the fact that the first Chevy Chase/falling-Ford skit was broadcast one year before the 1976 election.
ile,
One needs to be tough to live here. The long dark winters can really mess up your mind.
Palin being from Alaska with a similar climate knows how to tough out long dark winters.
Palin says Alaska has two seasons, construction and winter. Yep hat hair season and construction.
I wish heinäkuu and elokuu could last for 6 months!
"And her ass is fucking rocking. If only that motorcycle seat could have been my face." - Titus
Dude, you're starting to scare me. You switching teams, or just going bi?
Synova,
Strictly speaking, Scandinavians are the inhabitants of the Scandinavian peninsula, i.e., Norwegians and Swedes. The Danes are included because Denmark also was conquered by the same tribes that conquered Norway and Sweden, so that we all speak more or less dialects of the same language and have a lot of history in common.
Finland and the Finns is an entirely different proposition.
As for WWII history, I think Hitler gave the Finns some support, at least with arms and ammunition, when nobody else would, to defend themselves against the Soviets in the -39 "Winter War," and that is what that was about.
As for the Swedes and their neutrality, no sane small country gets mixed up with the big boys in a fight if it can help it. Hitler did not "need" Sweden to fight Britain like he needed Norway, and the Swedes just tried to keep it that way.
Otherwise they received refugees from Norway and Denmark very kindly and generously all through the war and generally did what they could for us, even to the extent of training and equipping military units to move back home and help keep the peace when the war was finally over.
Chip -- Look at your own data. In March, it was a dead heat. In November, it was a dead heat again. In between, Carter at one time enjoyed a huge, huge lead. What part of the Chevy Chase stuff was responsible for that ballooning and then shrinking lead?
Maybe you can make the whole theory work by adding in the exact dates of the live broadcasts and tying that into the polling data.
1. Sarah's hot. It's time we had a hot President.
2. Man, it must be so easy to be a Palin hatin' liberal. No thinking required.
3. I would take zombie Nixon over 0bama any day.
How are zombie Nixon and Obama really much different? Highly intelligent presidents who favor high taxes and lots of new government regulation, and who produce no growth.
I take it you don't like the fawning press. Is that it?
Don't you get the feeling that Annie might just be playing to your sense of victimization and aggrievement to get hits?
And that maybe she might not actually agree with you louts about anything at all of substance?
Has she actually taken the conservative position on anything of substance? I know she's voted for Democrats for decades.
Seven, I think the O'Donnell case gives some useful parallels, but I don't think it's fair to blame O'Donnell's primary victory on Palin.
Palin endorsed O'Donnell, but I can't recall her being critical of Castle in the process. Did Palin do any in-person campaigning for O'Donnell in the primary?
Pamela, yes, I agree. But last winter was good, one just had to ski (cross country) every day so it got past pretty quickly. Some other winters, not so much. There have been some dark winters that really resonate with the "mess up your mind" point. Scary.
Don't want to derail the thread though. So apologies to others.
Ethan -- You are a stupid, useless troll but I will take your question at face value. I like coming here and I think most conservatives and libertarians like coming here because Althouse is very unorthodox and constantly challenges assumptions and standards. She also has an excellent taste. There's also a good mix of different liberal, conservative, etc. perspectives.
One thing I can't stand is a conservative hothouse where there is a suffocating orthodoxy of simpletons. Really, though, you should go back to whatever hothouse of orthodoxy you came from. And stay there, drooling in ordinariness and the trite, boring lameness that is your life.
Peter -- Not my point at all. I say again: I like Palin. I like her brand. I like what I think she stands for.
My point is that someone who appeals emotionally to the Tea Party base (for lack of a better term) is not going to win the general election. You have to elect candidates with broad appeal.
Machos, As I've said earlier in this thread, it's silly to hang an election outcome on any one thing. Clearly the state of the economy is by far the biggest factor. But as I understand the "SNL" argument--which is not one that I've advanced but also not something I'd repudiate--it simply says that media ridicule helped put Ford at a disadvantage. I don't think anyone has argued that the effect was bigger than the Nixon pardon or economic conditions. All they're saying, as I understand it, is that the network-Hollywood nexus acts to magnify any Republican's foibles more so than for Democrats. I think David Mamet agrees with that.
Whether or not the media can create perceptions out of thin air, it seems undeniable that they amplify and distort-whether for comic or partisan purposes, or both-the features of public figures. It's essentially caricature, an old art form. But the artistic community is not unbiased, so conservatives have a more difficult task electorally.
The other takeaway from those polling data would seem to be that polls can be amazingly volatile, and so should not serve as a unique basis for determining anyone's electability a year and a half ahead of an election.
Chip -- Not much to disagree with there. I'd merely add that there is another phenomenon at work. Democrat and tremendously unique voice Mickey Kaus frames it and explains it best. He calls it cocooning. The basic idea is that liberals are so wrapped up in their own mantras and their own little world of liberalism that they fail to see the reasons why they will lose.
That was a pretty crappy explanation. Google Kaus cocooning if you are interested. But the bottom line is that the cultural milieu isn't a one-way street that only helps leftists.
Seven, sorry if I misunderstood what you said earlier about O'Donnell. There are many threads in this thread and I'm sure I missed something.
Cocooning would explain candidates like Kerry and Dukakis, eh?
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Conservatives who like to blame the media for their losses need to remember that they have a better record at winning the presidency in the modern era despite the dreadful MSM.
Kerry was caricatured as Mr. Waffle. Gore was the stiff scold.
Oh, wait. That wasn't media-created spin.
"It's interesting to me that predestinationalists (like Camping) insist that you're going to hell no matter what..." - Synova
He would need to know the mind of God to make that claim.
Believe it or not, at one time he was sound in his theology; he was an elder at a Dutch Reformed church. He seemed to go off the rails some time in the 70's with his "Open Forum" show. This is what happens when architects try and "do theology" without any proper training in language and hermeneutics. Plus being a numbers guy, he may have filtered the Bible through that lens, leading to some of his wacky predictions.
I think you may also be confused about some of the basics of Reformed Theology... :)
Peter -- I'll never forget the last televised presidential debate I ever watched. It was one of the (three?) Gore v. Bush ones. I want to say it was the first.
So I watched. And I thought Bush did awful. Just awful. I was embarrassed. And this was a long time ago Internet-wise, but I remember going to nationalreview.com that night looking for some reassurance, and they thought Bush was just awful, too.
Well, it turns out that Bush won that debate in the court of public opinion rather overwhelmingly purely for reasons of style. Everybody hated the way that Gore interrupted too much and whined and sighed like a little schoolgirl off camera.
Anyway, I've never watched a political debate again, as I deemed them useless after that one.
Oh, no doubt, trucker. But you are right that Camping doesn't understand the theology. My husband and I were listening to one of his call-in shows and some fellow called in wanting to be saved, wanting to know if he could be saved. Rather than point out that the desire to be saved and love for God was a pretty good clue that God was working in him, something that wouldn't happen to the non-preordained, he answered some horrific mishmash of "you're doomed" that had my husband and I in fervent prayer that the guy didn't go kill himself the moment he hung up.
Reformed theology isn't represented by Camping. It's just that Camping happened to be in the news lately.
I probably shouldn't have brought him up at all just in order to point out that evangelicals tend to be viewed as hostile because they believe in proselytizing, while non-proselytizing religions do not, even though they believe just as much in hell as anyone.
Camping is a distraction.
There is irony - or something - in Alex's weird (yes weird) fear of an evangelical Christian Sarah Palin. ("Do you think she accepts atheists?") ???
What?
What has that got to do with running for president?
What does "accept atheists" mean?
You vote for a guy who sat for TWENTY YEARS in Jeremiah Wright's hate promoting church, got married by Jeremiah Wright, who had his kids baptized by Jeremiah Wright, and you're worried about whether this woman "accepts atheists?" or believes some people will go to hell after they die?
Like, um, does she card everyone she does business with? Did she ask the oil companies who she had to deal to send only evangelical Christians? Maybe she checked all the resumes of the Canadians dealing on the natural gas pipeline before she talked to them? IIRC her appointment to the Alaska Supreme Court didn't have to pass that "test."
Alex, sometimes I am not sure where you stand on things, but that little thread of yours is just plain stupid.
So she's cultivated a community with a shared sense of victimization and aggrievement.
And you accept this even though she disagrees with you on substantive matters? Has she ever recanted voting for Obama?
It seems like she's pulling a fast one, which is amusing.
It also seems that substantive matters are, for you people, less important than your shared aggrievement. Why else would you be here?
Everybody hated the way that Gore interrupted too much and whined and sighed like a little schoolgirl off camera.
I remember the debate where Gore lurked over Bush like a retarded vulture when Bush spoke. I've never quite figured out what Gore thought he was accomplishing, but at that time my mind was open to Gore and Bush. Bush would have had to announce plans for the rise of the Fourth Reich for me to vote for Gore after watching his behavior.
Alex:
"Actually I do know them and they [Evangelicals] insist that non-believers go to hell."
So what? I'll never understand why this bugs atheists so much. You act as though they're going to pitch you in themselves. The vast majority of them would love to be able to help you save yourself from that fate.
Is that really such a dealbreaker?
I'm Catholic. When Jehovah's Witnesses show up at my front door I thank them for their time and send them on their way grateful that they wanted to save me.
@Seven Machos -- I can remember thinking that Al Gore seemed really pretentious. And I can remember my Democratic friends railing on Bush for seeming smug. And I wondered, at the end, if the election came down to that visceral difference: What annoys you more? Smugness? or Pretension?
I'll add that, as a Catholic, most Evangelicals probably think I'm going to Hell, too.
Couldn't care less.
Ethan -- Nobody here is aggrieved. Except you. You must be aggrieved at the prospect that people are at Althouse's blog, chatting.
Why? Was it sexual abuse as a child?
"It should be painfully obvious that one doesn't come here because the good Professor is a bastion of conservatism; rather for the ecclectic ensemble of commenters she has compiled."
It seems that the "reformed trucker" has been hanging around the blogosphere. For too long? Not my call, but I will say this. Aware or not, we are here because the "good Professor" Althouse is an exceptional teacher and a very gracious hostess.
Now...as for her "eclectic ensemble" of commenters who supposedly make Althouse the great blog that it is? *shrugs*
One night too many high notes, and the sopranos rule, thugishly. The next night, one or two altos show up, and you'd think the overall sound would improve. Yet quite the opposite. It gets a little "base" shall we say? I quite like that myself, until it gets personal and some kids start flinging shit instead of making jokes about shit.
This is no fine line distinction, by the way. One of the two requires a janitor to clean up hurt feelings. The other, a janitor to clean up sensibilities.
So what do we have here? A great teacher, although not a teacher of music. And also a fine group of commenters, many of whom know a PERFECT, single note.
Nice beginning, yet work to be done.
In Sweden! ha ha Now that's just "Althouse.se" FUNNY!
Is Annie even a Christian?
Do you know?
@Oligonicella.
"What card?"
The card of wearing a huge wooden cross around her neck. Which, as I stated, may have been a gift that she graciously accepted and displayed on this day. And, again, nothing improper about that at all.
Just that, strictly from a practical viewpoint, and with independent voters in mind, she may wish to show occasional discretion.
What does it matter if Althouse is a Christian? Except to Alex, who is a weird troll?
You and Alex need to go and find a hothouse where you can make sweet love together.
As far as Sarah Palin goes, one of the more interesting things to watch -- if she does run a competitive race for president -- is how quickly her opponents rush out to embarrass themselves in photo-ops with things like guns and motorcycles.
Or tanks, for that matter.
I quite seriously suspect that there's a chance, a slim chance to be sure, that Palin actually looks like an adult woman. Something about her whole lifestyle.
Peter
"I love the smell of nocturnal emissions" lol
wv: "toushie" -- no kidding.
Synova said, "Camping is a distraction."
Only because of those pitched tents. ha ha
Oops...Sorry, Synova! Couldnt help myself.
I blame the loss of my apostrophe.
"Or tanks, for that matter."
You're welcome, Henry!
Good manners. I like that.
My point is that someone who appeals emotionally to the Tea Party base (for lack of a better term) is not going to win the general election. You have to elect candidates with broad appeal.
I agree with your second point, but not your first. I think there is a good possibility of someone who appeals to the 'tea party' base winning the election. There is a lot of overlap between what tea party folks are upset about what the general public is upset about.
I don't think that person should necessarily style themselves as a tea party candidate, though, since I think that brand is somewhat sullied (not through any particular fault of its own, just normal media onslaught) but someof the ideals could win. I don't think that person is Sarah Palin, but I could see someone appealing to the base and the general public, in theory. Do we have that person on hand is a different question.
You don't know shit about evangelicals.
Actually I do know them and they insist that non-believers go to hell.
Alex,
If you're an atheist then I assume you believe there's no Hell. So why would it matter to you that evangelicals thought you were going to a place that you believe does not exist? Is it that you're such a weak personality that you can't take it that someone thinks that your wrong and going to be punished eternally for it?
wv: adsxud - "Yes, I see what you mean, that adsxud badly."
Shanna -- I agree with everything you say. It's a vocabulary issue. Historians will have the words for all this...
Ile: Well, we have to admit she's pretty damn dumb, because the main stream media always says she is, and they believe they're really really smart.
After all, their guy is the one who said he was visiting all 57-states during the 2008 campaign, the one who was going to restore America's position of leadership in the world, the one who knew how to get along with other world leaders without being condescending to them, the one the msm said was the most articulate speaker ever, the one who was perhaps the most brilliant person ever to run for president and to be elected to that position, the one who knew how to show the world much respect for its customs and traditions, the one who cause the msm to have tingling legs, the one the msm never investigated 17-days to Sunday, the one the msm never asking pointed and critical questions, the one who brought "smart power" into the USA administration and its foreign policy after so many long years of Bushisms, in other words, The Won.
Except, something funny happened after his election, when "O" insulted the UK, France, the British Queen, and various other foreign entities. But, still Obama was so much smarter than anyone who could possibly run against him in 2012 that considering Sarah Palin as a candidate must be a colossal joke according to the msm's version of things. OBTW, Obama can't really speak without his TOTUS except when asking for more money and talking about the nation's bitter clingers and all those nasty Christianists, in which case, his comments about them are crystal clear.
Still, the msm is probably correct about their view of Palin, that she'll never stack up to Obama's strengths and never win the Nobel Peace Price as he did
Ile: Also, what others above said about Sarah Palin, including that she's hot, smart, pretty, knowledgeable, and tough as nails. And, for me, she's nothing at all like that corrupt Chicago hood Obama.
When I think of Finland, I think of Sampo!
There are quite a lot of fireworks going off over at the INVESCO Field right now visible from my balcony, and boy, what a racket it is too. It's all like the rocket's red glare and bombs bursting in air, wot prove in the night that the flag is still there. Or something.
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No srsly. On the weekend nights when I do not go out myself, I notice the nearby parking lot steadily fill with cars from which emerge the most serenely polite people my own age who are casually visiting nearby clubs just a block and two distant. Then late at night, early morning actually, when those clubs close, all the people return to their cars en masse, and they are altogether a different people. Filled to the gills and unready to end the party, apparent disputes unsettled, loud, boisterous, yelling, music turned up to 90 decibels, honking horns, screeching tires, screaming invectives, arguing, breaking bottles, smoking cigarettes and flicking the butts -- did I mention yelling? Apparently hard-of-hearing, an unnatural lot of high-pitched yelling.
You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to take my laptop out there on the balcony when the commotion starts and have the built in microphone produce a sound file then I'll upload it and link it so you can hear what I'm on about.
Friday a neighbor yelled from a nearby balcony, "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
What does this have to do with Palin? Well, judging by observable behavior, and this is a guess, I am imagining these are the people who would allow Tina Fey to define Sarah Palin for them, and hop aboard every Palin-is-an-idiot meme-wagon that goes trundling by. If I were to ask them randomly, "which politician said, 'I can see Russia from my house?'" I am ashamed to suggest the answer would likely be, "Palin," 10 for 10. But I dare say, most of those people, possibly even 100%, would not vote for any Republican anyway.
However she is defined, Palin is perfectly capable of redefining herself in the eyes of people who might actually vote for her. Everybody else is irrelevant to whatever definition they hold of her, either received or auto-contrived, because they are not in the group of possible pro-Palin voters anyway. As for myself, I said this before, she must do something about voice control because my tender ears simply cannot take excitable screeching, like the high-pitched alcohol-fueled overly excitable voices that fill the nearby parking lot on weekends. Without that, it would be another four years of racing for the remote.
"- The core GOP will not want her. She will not get their votes."
I am GOP, and she will get my vote. And my husband's vote. And many of my friend's votes (and many of THEM are Dems.)
Blue county in a blue state. CA
And, Chip, I'll take her voice over Obama's bizarre halting droning cadence any day. I have to turn the sound off when he comes on.
If that's the deciding factor for anyone, he's got a deficit there too.
And it's the real issues - LIKE THE DEFICIT - and his rampant spending, partying, lecturing, equivocating and lying - that should curl your toes and raise the hairs on the back of your neck.
Go Sarah!
I remember when Sarah was out in the woods with Kate-plus-eight, how Kate whined and complained about everything - the animals, the fish, the weather, the isolation, the scary noises, the lack of a Starbucks, a mall, personal assistants, hairdressers - all the comforts the typical liberal needs to survive.
I still doubt Sarah will run for president this time around, but if she does, she'll win. Big. And not just because Obama is the jive turkey, exposed - but because Sarah Palin is real and Americans know it.
SNL didn't kill Ford. The Nixon pardon killed Ford. Don't you guys read history?
America's Politico? Isn't he the guy who claimed to know, for sure, with secret knowledge etc etc etc, that the GOP would be so disappointed with the Nov 2010 elections?
America's Politico is parody. He's easy to understand once you get that. And he'll provide you with many entertaining posts.
ethan: Is Annie even a Christian?
Using your little pet name for her only marks you as a Libtard.
Thanks for outing yourself.
/ignore ethan
normally, i'd be hesitant to demean or trivialize a woman by commenting on her looks rather then her accomplishments..but DAMN! that woman looks good on the back of a motorcycle!! GO SARAH!
Who is sarah palin Miss Ann?
Many people chew gum before public speaking to keep the spit glands working. POTUS should find another way.
America's politico is a total troll parody guys. Fen is right on. Sadly he is losing a bit of his touch. These posts are a bit stale. But the ones before the 2010 election were classics.
I love the way Palin has gotten in the left's collective head. She drives them absolutely nuts. I really think they fear her.
"Act like a dumbshit and they'll treat you like an equal." --J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, Church of the SubGenius
That is the basis of Miss Sarah's meretricious appeal.
"8) She has taken the most vicious criticism of any politician in my life time...."
Not by a long shot.
ethan said...
So she's cultivated a community with a shared sense of victimization and aggrievement.
Note how Lefties have to define everything in terms of their own inadequacies.
And you accept this even though she disagrees with you on substantive matters? Has she ever recanted voting for Obama?
He really doesn't get it. She's open enough to fall in love with and marry a man a lot more Conservative than she is. She is what the Lefties claim to be, but are in capable of being and it drives them up the wall.
He also doesn't get the whole "Conservatives' lovable Liberal" concept. Like him, we all have to have a laundry list of litmus tests which must be met before we can like someone.
It seems like she's pulling a fast one, which is amusing.
It also seems that substantive matters are, for you people, less important than your shared aggrievement. Why else would you be here?
No fast one, Ann's always been up front about what she likes or doesn't. The "Crusty Conservative coating, creamy hippie love chick center" bit; sometimes she's a little surprising where she comes down.
And the whole "aggrieved" thing is getting old. If anything, it's the Left that's perpetually aggrieved. PC is one long litany of some whining Lefty who's "offended" by something and will to hold his breath until he turns blue - or until some hack Lefty judge invents a new reason why whatever the "offense" was should now be treated as illegal.
Robert Cook said...
"8) She has taken the most vicious criticism of any politician in my life time...."
Not by a long shot.
Not since Nixon has anyone had the kind of abuse she's gotten. Obviously Cook has some Lefty in mind, but he's also going by the archives of the Daily Worker.
Sarah Palin was right.
BTW, liberals, you too are included in this great plan concocted by your overlords.
If its so great, have fun explaining all the waivers, etc. being handed out to most favored groups, etc.
I understand Palin's appeal. Her supporters feel like she really gets them.
But to other people she comes off as opportunistic.
When they see pics like this, they just roll their eyes. Her fans see someone they can identify with and her detractors see a self interested publicity hound.
I like Palin, but not so much as I used to. I understand why she quit in Alaska..I really do, but I think it makes it more difficult for Independents to support her.
Who can give some hints about Sarah Palin?? Who's this woman?
Blair:
Yes, Palin did support O'Donnell, very publicly in fact. And she supported Angle in Nevada and Miller in Alaska..all of whom lost.
She also supported Rand Paul in Kentucky..that would be the same Rand Paul who voted along side Olympia Snowe against the Ryan Plan. But then again Paul is not a conservative, he is a libertarian..not the same thing.
Sarah has a mixed record when it comes to picking candidates.
"Act like a dumbshit and they'll treat you like an equal." --J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, Church of the SubGenius
Jesus, Kookie, you are the worst kind of idiot... the intellectual idiot.
You really don't have any idea how fucking stupid you are, do you?
Complete lack of self awareness.
According to Politico:
Palin arrived with Willow on the front of the motorcycle she was driving and her husband, Todd, and oldest daughter, Bristol, on separate bikes.
Evidently, then, the woman on whose bike Sarah was riding was her daughter's bike.
"Actually I do know them and they insist that non-believers go to hell"
And you don't believe in hell. So why does it matter?
Impossible to add anything to a 280 comment thread--all: have a great memorial day.
Sarah Palin is demonstrating the personal innovation lifestyle!
These PACs are amazing things. For example, Palin can entice enormous endorsements to her PAC by hinting she might run for president. The collection of small donations is way simplified by using the internet (as demonstrated by Obama in 2008).
Palin does not have to actually run for president or even set up a practical organization to run for president. Evidently she has wide latitude in how she can spend the PAC's money. The people who contribute to her really trust her (even though she is a politician).
Even if Palin does not run, her PAC will be instrumental in building her personal brand.
It is possible that she runs in 2012 but not probable. Her decision will depend on a lot of factors such as Obamas favorability ratings, the economy, Palin's favorability ratings, how much abuse Palin is willing for her family to endure, whether Palin is willing to commit to a job like the presidency that will leave her little time to focus on her kids.
My guess is that Palin ends up not running for president in 2012. It seems that everything lines up better for her in 2016 (would not have to face an incumbent Obama and her kids would be 4 years older).
In the meantime, that PAC money permits her to build her political contact network via speaking engagements, try to improve her popularity with the voters, to have tremendous political influence through her donations and also facilitates a sweet lifestyle for Palin's family. She will also make a lot of money in those 4 years.
Terrye said...
Blair:
Yes, Palin did support O'Donnell, very publicly in fact. And she supported Angle in Nevada and Miller in Alaska..all of whom lost.
She also supported Rand Paul in Kentucky..that would be the same Rand Paul who voted along side Olympia Snowe against the Ryan Plan. But then again Paul is not a conservative, he is a libertarian..not the same thing.
Sarah has a mixed record when it comes to picking candidates.
About 2/3 of the candidates she supported won. Considering some were double crossed by the RINO establishment, not a bad record.
"When they see pics like this, they just roll their eyes. Her fans see someone they can identify with and her detractors see a self interested publicity hound."
True.
And when Obama finally gets around to paying attention to a natural disaster (I don't think that any president should detract from rescue and cleanup efforts) and he shows up at an "event" to give a sermon (yes, a sermon) his fans see someone they can cling to (not having guns nor religion) and his detractors see a self interested publicity hound prone to moral scolding.
So there you go.
Kensington,
"I'll add that, as a Catholic, most Evangelicals probably think I'm going to Hell, too."
Good grief, no. We disagree about some aspects of theology and practice, but that's about it. You have to get deep into the "fighting fundies" to find people who think Catholics are doomed en masse.
"we are here because the 'good Professor' Althouse is an exceptional teacher and a very gracious hostess." - Penny
I already picked up on her being a gracious hostess, and look forward to teachable moments. I listen to lectures from college professors all day in my truck... I luvs me a good teacher!
Seriously though, the point I may have poorly conveyed is I consider myself Libertarian, so it wasn't Ann's "politics" that attracted me to the site.
BTW, you do have a way with wordsmithing...
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