Who knows if that's the end of the back-and-forth between Prosser and Kloppenburg, but at this point it looks decisive for Prosser.
AND: Nickolaus said:
"I'm thankful that this error was caught early in the process. This is not a case of extra ballots being found. This is human error which I apologize for, which is common," Nickolaus said, her voice wavering as she spoke to reporters.It's interesting to go back and look at Kloppenburg declaring victory yesterday:
"How do you feel comfortable declaring victory when the margin is so thin...?" Ah, yes.
ALSO: On election night, I was watching Waukesha and noted the problem:
UPDATE, 11:35: Concentrating on the AP numbers, looking at which counties still need to report, I'm irritated by the way Waukesha (strong for Prosser) and Dane (strong for Kloppenburg) seem to be holding out, like it's a game of chicken. Right now the candidates are 50-50%, with Prosser up 6,000+. It's been seesawing back and forth, with Kloppenburg up some of the time. To my eye, it looks as though there are more votes left to report in the places that are pro-Prosser, so I think in the end Prosser will squeak by.
UPDATE, 11:43: Dane (Madison's county) is nearly all in. I don't see how Kloppenburg can net more than about 3,000 with what's left of Dane. Waukesha is now shown as completely in, but the numbers didn't change, so I think something may have been misreported. I took the trouble to do a calculation and was going to predict that Prosser would net 40,000 more votes in Waukesha. What happened?
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 261 of 261how do you go from she has a history of mishandling election data, to she's a cocksucking whore?
You can start here. Story written last summer. Even the Republicans who run Waukesha County thought she was a stupid bimbo.
Here's another one from a few months ago. The woman is an arrogant idiot.
By the way, I never called her a "cocksucking whore." You did. Is that how Republicans refer to all of their women, or is that just the ones you like?
But I wouldn't be surprised if this was a planned move in a chess game.
When I heard this news, that was the first thing I thought of. I wouldn't want our side to cheat, but that would be one way of countering what the Democrats have done in the past (I'm looking at you, Washington state).
That said, I think it really was an accident.
P.S. Please, God...let this result hold.
"It stretches the bounds of credibility to think that over 14,300 votes were somehow "overlooked" until two days after the election.
Based on the partisan, political history of Ms. Nickolaus and the serious concerns that have been raised, by other Waukesha County officials, about the quality of her election administration and the possibility for fraud, an independent investigation of her conduct and the county's election results is not just warranted but urgently demanded to protect the integrity of our electoral system in Wisconsin."
-Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D):
By the way: Iggy Pop? Seriously?
Whose idea was that?
After seeing Michelle Bachmann stepping on Paul Ryan's response to the SOTU speech ... I'll guess ahead for 2012.
If Trump is in, (and he can't declare until his Apprentice show is off the air) ... then he's in all the way. Including Ross Perot run as an independent.
Michelle Bachmann, if she has the dough, would also go this route. Perhaps, too, Palin?
You don't come to a 50/50 split ... if you've got Independents sucking up votes.
From now on this will be known as the Klopper Caper..
"But I wouldn't be surprised if this was a planned move in a chess game."
Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard!
to protect the integrity of our electoral system in Wisconsin."
-Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D):
Ho, ho, ho.
"Would you like a smoke?"
"Hey, those tires look a little flat."
"You mean students can't vote twice?"
Sorry If i've posted this already (having problems with comments on blogger site today):
I'm amazed by the prediction by Madison area conservative blogger Dave Blaska before the election:
Prosser to win 50.2% - 49.8 %.
Looks exactly right!
to protect the integrity of our electoral system in Wisconsin."
-Senate Minority Leader Mark Miller (D):
I guess he's on board for voter ID now.
Now is the time to pass voter ID and whatever other safe guards are necessary to conduct clean elections in Wisconsin.
Does anyone who watched the press conference by Waukesha County Clerk, Kathy Nickolaus, seriously believe that this was a planned chess move?
Recall that the "confusing" butterfly ballot mess in Florida 2000 was designed by a Democrat.
No way this was planned. As Ann noted, those numbers did not make sense on election night. Plus, if you were playing games you would try to wait until the democrats had played all their cards. This is too soon to be sure that is true.
I'm not that inclined to be hard on the Kloppenpoodle for claiming victory. Sure, it was a political ploy, but this is a political situation. If it was a bad thing to do, it's just a tiny little bad. She does look a little silly now, but no sillier than Al Gore when he retracted his concession. In fact a lot less silly.
I also don't think it's over yet. If this error could occur, so could others.
Will the dems (excuse--independent supporters of Kloppendicker) still ask for a recount? I would. Stay tuned.
Kloppenpoodle??
Haha!
MadMan - Iggy Pop. 64 in a couple of weeks. Bare chested. Weird.
Steve - Voter ID was actually passed three times. Doyle vetoed it three times.
wv: jancr
Great catch, Ann. The legacy media were asleep at the switch.
What a night it was!
"I have to say, that's a great idea. A patriotic idea. All elections should hold back a large margin, in a verifiable, undeniable way, until the urban precincts have all reported their totals. "
It's genius. I guess Republicans are the stupid party if they haven't thought of it before.
I doubt it though - they still are. If not smart, at least be lucky, and this time they were.
BWAAAAA-AHAAAAA-HAAAA-HAAAA-AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prolly not the first to notice the resemblance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrzkFmzd9Xo
Effin Blogger is censoring my comments again.
The DEMOCRAT PARTY ELECTION COMMISSIONER affirms these are correct votes and a simple error - no fraud - noi subterfuge - just a (rather remarkably inept) mistake.
The Senate Minority Leader is a typical cynical, two-faced Democrat prick.
but then, what's new?
I'm the grandson of Meatcutters Local Shop Steward and Ward Boss in St. Louis City. Son of a Truman Democrat.
My mother actually SPIT ON ME when I watched Reagan address the Republican Convention in my own apartment!!
You wonder why I hate Democrats?
NY Times will have to change its headlines. Now they probably won't even cover the story.
It's no shock the democrats are upset that these votes weren't reported, but until they can show that the fraud from 2008 in WI has been solved, why not wait to report until it's much harder to cheat?
After all, no investigation is going to show that this city's voters didn't show up to the polls. These votes aren't out of step with predictions, either. They just didn't report them when expected.
It's pretty obvious these votes are legit. WI's extremely lax voter laws force people to be careful.
I have no problem with a recount, and I think anyone caught committing election fraud again should go to prison. But I also think we must have voter ID and sting operations to root out cheaters.
any democrat opposed to voter ID can STFU about this reporting problem. If they care about elections, they need to do so 100% of the time.
BWAAAAA-AHAAAAA-HAAAA-HAAAA-AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are of the same mind on this.
My intention was to come here and comment only:
"Ha ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha."
I keep hearing this argument from the left that the clerk is some kind of demonic partisan hack.
I'm not hearing the specific reasons for that. What, did she vote for Bush or something?
We have the WI Senate minority leader making vague insinuations that she's a crook. I think undermining confidence in the election, at the expense of someone being hated by thousands of union thugs, too, is crossing the line.
Specifically specify what horrible crap she did in the past, or admit you made it all up.
All that noise in the capital building; all the dancing and singing and chanting and drum beating;
All the signs, the tape, the street theater;
All the union money and boycott threatening and anger and shouting.
And they lost. The spendthrift lefties lost.
My friends, we've seen the beginning of the end for these arrogant creeps.
MadisonMan, the votes are valid. But the total for the town of Brookfield was entered in the spreadsheet on the desktop of the person who was keeping the vote totals up to date, but when they sent the email, the attached the file off the disk. The figures on the desktop hadn't been saved. In other words, they sent an out-of-date spreadsheet. The Dem observer agreed that the vote totals as given today are correct. This isn't a matter of "found" ballots.
browndog, do you think that no one in that town voted? The result finally reported is well within expectation.
Ah yes, victory in the morning, much better than loss in the morning. So, will Kloppenburg be able to finance a recount or shall she graciously declare moral victory and return to her AG gig?
Wonder, does Kloppenburg now wish she'd hired that election specialist from Senator Franken's staff.
How dare the Republicans hold back votes and therefore making it look like the Democrats can go home early instead of staying up all night filling out fraudulent ballots.
I was watching the results Tues. night and wondered why Waukesha which had 120 of the 180 precints in, had no changes in votes when it announced 180 of 180 precints in. Perhaps that is the reason
On election night, I admit, I was a huge Cassandra. With Prosser ahead I repeatedly predicted DOOM, DOOM. I did not know that the WI Republican Party was much smarter than the MN Republican Party. Holding back LEGITIMATE votes to counteract fraudulent Democrat votes was BRILLIANT. I must echo others here when I say my first reaction was HA HA HA HA HA!
I sent Prosser $25. Nice to get a return on my small investment.
I'm all for agreeing with the howling from the left for a recount if they still want one after all the certified results are in, AND, they play by the rules. If the difference in vote percentages is outside the range that an auto recount is paid for by the state, Kloppenburg can take advantage of the 3 day window after full certification to request a recount paid for by her.
I don't want to see any more of the crap from her campaign or that cowardly light foot asshole Miller trying to make it a matter of guaranteeing electoral integrity.
They're just angling for enough uproar to politically justify getting some judge take it up and order the state to fund a recount.
BTW:
I don't feel a bit sorry for Kloppenburg. She danced the dance, now she can pay the piper. She knowingly let herself be used by a shifty crowd and now it seems the promised payoff went south. She's given everyone to believe she has no issue with being an activist judge for the democrats (the site mealymouths can claim differently but stupidity is their choice, not mine), she may have blown any chance to any bench.
She's not a stupid woman. I think she and her campaign knew exactly what they were doing declaring a premature victory with an un-certified vote as close as it was. They knew damn well what was coming.
The question is how many fake voters were registered by Acorn/SEIU? That will tell you how many more ballots the Democrats can safely manufacture.
It will be harder to "discover" more fake ballots given the time lapse. Which makes this mistake fortuitous: Democrats thought the 10,000 bad ballots from Madison would be sufficient to elect Kloppenburg. Guess that didn't work.
Democrats thought the 10,000 bad ballots from Madison would be sufficient to elect Kloppenburg. Guess that didn't work.
What "10,000 bad ballots" are those? Are you talking about people who voted only in the Supreme Court race? Do you think those are all "bad ballots?"
Holding back LEGITIMATE votes to counteract fraudulent Democrat votes was BRILLIANT. I must echo others here when I say my first reaction was HA HA HA HA HA!
You'd better hope that Milwaukee County doesn't come out tomorrow and say, oops, we forgot to include the East Side of Milwaukee's precincts in the numbers we gave to the AP. So sorry!"
"You'd better hope that Milwaukee County doesn't come out tomorrow and say, oops, we forgot to include the East Side of Milwaukee's precincts in the numbers we gave to the AP. So sorry!"
We fully expect it. That has been the point. You aren't too bright are ya, little lady?
WV: flersem:
ya win some, ya flersem.
We fully expect it. That has been the point. You aren't too bright are ya, little lady?
Wow, insulting and sexist all in one. Is that a wingnut specialty? BTW, how do you know that I'm a female? A while back a different wingnut suggested that I am a gay male. Either way, it would be a hell of a threat, eh?
You're a 22 year old female. You're also a one trick pony. But, I'm sure your ex boyfriends have been telling you that all of your life.
WV: scombita:
Come back here, you scombita!
"Wow, insulting and sexist all in one."
What's sexist about assuming you're female? there's nothing wrong with women, so what's wrong with someone assuming you're a woman?
Not that I care. I just think it's hilarious that you are a bigot, lumping all conservatives into this or that pejorative, and associating all of them with whatever grievance you're freaking out about from one comment to the next. You're an utter prejudiced kook, but also hypersensitive to even the mildest jokes, which you interpret as bigotry.
It's just silly. There's a nice pack of weirdos who do all they can to make Althouse threads less readable,and I guess you're not actually trying to have a conversation, but want to draw as much fire as possible with rant after rant.
Looks like a lot of astute observers noticed that something was awry in Waukesha County, where I lived for a decade before moving to Tosa.
From the looks of the video, even if Kloppenburg was following the instructions of the agitprop commissar from the union politburo, she did it in such a supremely stupid and silly manner as to show what an airhead ditz she would be as WI supreme court justice.
And let the recount begin, with the loser picking up the entire tab. Soros can afford it.
@john
"Placeholder - Just because Ann opened up a new thread doesn't mean you can repeat all your old comments.
The lying skank gets paid by the word from the DNC [or is it NEA?] paymasters who dole out dollars to keep polluting "the marketplace of ideas" with BS from the likes of this specimen.
Dave,
don't you think it's more likely that placeholder is just a really really weird person who has a ridiculous beef with conservatives, and this is how he or she tries to get back at them?
Sure, maybe Soros has some program for paying people to write nonsense, but I've heard that a lot and you'd think by now someone would have exposed that more provably.
The truth is that there are a lot of really deranged people out there on the internet, trying to pass the time or have some kind of interaction. I think placeholder is probably just a nutcase, as are the vast majority of screechingly angry trolls we come across. These people need to find someone they trust in their family and ask for help, but I don't think most of them have any idea they are even in trouble.
That's why I'm not mad at placeholder. I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
This is human error which I apologize for, which is common," Nickolaus said, her voice wavering as she spoke to reporters.
Translation:
I do this all of the time.
The biggest problem that will not be noticed, is that this happens in Wisconsin all too often.
Placeholder: Wow, insulting and sexist all in one. Is that a wingnut specialty? BTW, how do you know that I'm a female? A while back a different wingnut suggested that I am a gay male. Either way, it would be a hell of a threat, eh?
Not really. I sampled many 20ish liberal females in my youth. The only thing they had going for them was that they let you do things to them that you wouldn't want to do to your wife.
But then, you already know that, don't you skank? Hope you like cats, they're the only true affection in your future.
Now this is a turn of events that I did NOT see coming.
I am happy the uncounted votes were not recovered from some electioneer's car trunk.
Now, grab some popcorn, sit back and listen/watch the lib flail.
Garbage? Alpha? C4? J(agoff)?
My intention was to come here and comment only:
"Ha ha ha. Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha."
Yup. ;)
My favorite parts of the Nickolaus press conference:
1. Where the reporters kept asking her to explain the difference between "upload" and "save," as in, What is this spreadsheet and database of which you speak?
2. When she explained that they had discovered the error on Wednesday, then left work at 5 and returned at 9 on Thursday. Because there was no reason to work late on Wednesday. Not like there was any urgency to get to the bottom of the situation.
I saw about 2 minutes of Kloppy’s presser and could watch no more. She was either so stupid she failed to observe what probably 10 people on this blog detected Tuesday night, or she was so cynical that she had to make her phony victory declaration to arouse the partisans to scream “found ballots” when the truth came out. Regardless, she has no business being a judge on a state supreme court.
Kloppy judged the results before the facts came in. that was her best quality as far as the left was concerned.
that or her frightwig
I'm glad someone else saw what I did with the vote totals on election night! For a good hour, AP had Waukesha County at 140 of 198 precincts reporting. Suddenly, it jumped to 198 of 198 - but THE VOTE TOTALS DIDN'T CHANGE. Looked mighty fishy, to me - but who do you call at midnight?
I hate to be the one to bring this up (OK, I don't really hate doing this), but wasn't this election for state supreme somehow, someway, remotely related to a referendum on Walker & Company?
I can only imagine the commentary on the remote left (aka Rachel Madow and the legions of like-minded ilk) had the final result been for the Klopper.. In fact, I suspect she already had her version of "the memo" pretty much penned, along with snippy editorials from the Daily KOS, et al..
So, now what? Elections DO have both consequences AND a general upshot for sentiments of the voting public. To assume that this election had zero to do with the protest is naive. To assume it was a bald referendum similarly inaccurate.
Settling dust is what we need here to ferret all this out. But one thing seems to be emerging clearly in my humble estimation: regardless of the final outcome, this supreme court election can in no way be interpreted as a refutation by the overall citizenry of Scott Walker.
"When she explained that they had discovered the error on Wednesday, then left work at 5 and returned at 9 on Thursday. Because there was no reason to work late on Wednesday. Not like there was any urgency to get to the bottom of the situation."
Actually, there wasn't any urgency, other than the desire of all of us to have instant answers.
""You know, in California, if you only vote for ONE PERSON, but no one else, your ballot is INVALID.""
I vote in CA and this is news to me.
"A 7,500 vote mistake? Who was doing the counting? Can you say Government Union Employee??"
I hate to be the one to bring this up (OK, I don't really hate doing this), but wasn't this election for state supreme somehow, someway, remotely related to a referendum on Walker & Company?
Only if your side won. If your side lost, then it's a one-off. Unless you're Walker, who when he thought Prosser had lost, blamed it on Madison.
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