Althouse: What one Wisconsin legislator said to another after the budget vote: "You are f*cking dead."

February 28, 2011

What one Wisconsin legislator said to another after the budget vote: "You are f*cking dead."

Gordon Hintz (D) said it to Michelle Litjens (R).

(Via Alex, who notes the lack of press coverage.)

70 comments:

Joe said...: (The Crypto Jew)

But he said it in a very civil manner….; 2/28/11, 1:21 PM
TWM said...: This crap just writes itself. Evidently he was busted for soliciting prostitution earlier.

He's a Democrat dream candidate I tell ya . . .; 2/28/11, 1:21 PM
Chip Ahoy said...: Oh, my. That's deader than regular dead.; 2/28/11, 1:23 PM
Unknown said...: Oh, goody! And to a woman, also.

Can't wait to hear Gloria Steinbrenner weigh in on this one.; 2/28/11, 1:23 PM
Drew said...: Gordon Hintz is a real piece of work.

Wisconsin State Rep. Gordon Hintz (D) was arrested Feb. 10, accused of sexual misconduct -- a violation of a City of Appleton ordinance. The charge comes in connection with a massage parlor investigation.

The 37-year-old lawmaker says he is willing to take responsibility for his actions after the citation came to light, according to a report by the Chicago Tribune.

Hintz e-mailed a statement to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, in which he writes "I am willing to take responsibility for my actions," but going on to say that his "personal situation is distracting from the much more important issue facing the state."

According to Appleton police, the citation was issued in conjunction with an ongoing investigation into Heavenly Touch Massage Parlor.; 2/28/11, 1:23 PM
Scott M said...: I'm seeing links to this headline all over the blogosphere...but absolutely nobody is providing any proof of him saying it. All of them have the same mention of the little matter a week ago, but I'm still trying to find evidence that the quote is exactly what he said to her.; 2/28/11, 1:23 PM
Anonymous said...: Although I dont necessarily doubt it, I'd like to see some details/supporting evidence before accepting it as fact.; 2/28/11, 1:25 PM
Toad Trend said...: Ahh, those lovable liberals!

I'm assuming that Mr. Hintz was just passing along a friendly message from the union brass.

No need for concern.

wv - bedlexpo; 2/28/11, 1:27 PM
Scott M said...: Can't wait to hear Gloria Steinbrenner weigh in on this one.

No dice. Gloria went unic when she got married.; 2/28/11, 1:27 PM
TWM said...: Hmm, come to think on it, maybe he said, "I'm gonna fuck your head."

It IS the favored insult of the left I hear . . .; 2/28/11, 1:28 PM
lemondog said...: If he said it with a star (*) than it doesn't count.; 2/28/11, 1:28 PM
Scott M said...: If he said it with a star (*) than it doesn't count.

If he used air quotes, doesn't it really matter if he used them "you're", "fucking dead", or just "dead"?; 2/28/11, 1:29 PM
KCFleming said...: Maybe he was just describing her interest in the men from Twilight.; 2/28/11, 1:30 PM
KCFleming said...: NTTAWWT.; 2/28/11, 1:31 PM
KCFleming said...: When you love a vampire,

you are f*cking dead.; 2/28/11, 1:31 PM
KCFleming said...: Okay, prolly not.; 2/28/11, 1:32 PM
Roux said...: I'd like to have the audio but if the young lady would at least go on record. I'd take her word for it.; 2/28/11, 1:32 PM
traditionalguy said...: Wasn't that about what Loughner said to Giffords? And that may have been what Spitzer said to Parker when she wanted more of his airtime. Men who use paid sex workers find little need to show respect to women. Maybe Charlie Sheen could play this guy in a new series called Fourteen and a Half Democrat Men. That could finally scare off Walker and the GOP.; 2/28/11, 1:32 PM
Anne said...: Litjens confirms this on her Facebook page Wall and also mentions that Gordon called and apologized.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-Michelle-Litjens/125539670794255; 2/28/11, 1:35 PM
rhhardin said...: It's a figure of speech.

I support it.

I assume we're past the delicate feminine ears era.

"Fucking" is just an intensifier.

Interestingly, it's a deverbal nominal but there it is modifying an adjective.

Grammar with "fuck" variants is just made a convenience of, as Goffman noted.

See his Forms of Talk, or Zwicky et al Studies out in Left Field.; 2/28/11, 1:36 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: "What one Wisconsin legislator said to another after the budget vote: "You are f*cking dead.""

Well, come on - it beats being f*cking dead!

Plus, it's the government either way, so I don't see what the beef is,...unless you see it like getting your head fucked, but worse.

Then I get it.; 2/28/11, 1:37 PM
Anonymous said...: "....Gordon called and apologized."

Oh, never mind then.; 2/28/11, 1:37 PM
former law student said...: Considering that Litjens represents a district in which no Democrat ran, I doubt she could be considered politically dead for that vote. So what did Hintz mean? What is the context, or the history between them?

Regarding Hintz's bust: I was surprised to learn that prostitution in Wisconsin encompasses the "happy ending."

Men who use paid sex workers find little need to show respect to women.

Paging Senator Vitter! Senator David Vitter!; 2/28/11, 1:38 PM
TWM said...: "I'd like to have the audio but if the young lady would at least go on record. I'd take her word for it."

Or he could go on record denying it. Obviously he doesn't have to, but I sure as hell would if I had not said it. Are their microphones in the WI House? Perhaps someone else heard it?; 2/28/11, 1:38 PM
kent said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/28/11, 1:39 PM
kent said...: and also mentions that Gordon called and apologized.

It's Hintz's father who owes the apology, if anyone does. He's the one who didn't pull out, after all.; 2/28/11, 1:40 PM
Lincolntf said...: Call a heckler "macaca" and your career is over. Tell a Republican that she is "...fucking dead!" and you probably get an invite to the White House.
Just don't vilify anyone or Obama will think you're naughty.; 2/28/11, 1:41 PM
TWM said...: Ahh, since it was confirmed and he apologized I guess we are good on him being a total asshole.

As if there was much doubt considering he's a Dem . . .; 2/28/11, 1:41 PM
Scott M said...: Just don't vilify anyone or Obama will think you're naughty.

You could pirate. He doesn't seem to care much about that.; 2/28/11, 1:47 PM
SteveR said...: Yeah the apology makes it all go away. Figure of speech, heat of the moment, personal issues distracting and all that.; 2/28/11, 1:47 PM
Lincolntf said...: He's just one bad apple. Like Mike Capuano. And Bob Etheridge.; 2/28/11, 1:51 PM
Tibore said...: Civility: For thee, but not for me.; 2/28/11, 1:52 PM
kent said...: You could pirate. He doesn't seem to care much about that.

You say "pirate," I say "community organizer"...; 2/28/11, 1:52 PM
Tibore said...: That said, I would like to see the quote confirmed. Anyone can report anything.

Not saying it didn't happen - unfortunately, such a statement is not just possible, but all too much in character. But, again, I'd want substantiation before taking it as gospel. It'd be worse to be wrong about such an accusation, and waiting for confirmation doesn't cost a thing.; 2/28/11, 1:56 PM
Carol_Herman said...: Well, my bet is that a lot of money will be spent in Wisconsin on the next election cycle.

While the hardest line to move to the left is the one, on the scale of things that can happen, are where the majority of voters swing their votes.

If I'm not mistaken, the ads are practically writing themselves.; 2/28/11, 1:58 PM
KCFleming said...: He can make this all go away by dressing up in a tiger suit and e-mailing it to his consituents.

Hey, it worked for Oregon Representative David Wu!

Rowr!; 2/28/11, 2:03 PM
John henry said...: According to Appleton police, the citation was issued in conjunction with an ongoing investigation into Heavenly Touch Massage Parlor.

Based on this and his comments, it does not seem like a story with a happy ending.

John Henry

WV: Swalli - I wonder if they swalli in the massage parlor?; 2/28/11, 2:05 PM
BJM said...: and also mentions that Gordon called and apologized.

Hintz finally gets a happy ending.; 2/28/11, 2:06 PM
garage mahal said...: Chill the fuck out, I got this!

I'm welding the windows shut at the Capitol. Problem solved!

/John Lindh Walker; 2/28/11, 2:06 PM
kent said...: Hey, it worked for Oregon Representative David Wu!

7-to-1 odds that Wu's a furry.

"NTTAWWT," he said, with a barely repressed shudder.; 2/28/11, 2:07 PM
Anonymous said...: Yes, but the guy is a paragon of restraint compared to Ted Kennedy, who hired out an entire brothel for his own enjoyment during a trip to Santiago, Chile in 1961.; 2/28/11, 2:10 PM
Once written, twice... said...: If you check the link you can see that "the story" comes from none other than Charlie Sykes. Sykes makes Rush Limbaugh and Ed Schultz look like wimpy non-partisans. Ann once again proves that she is a big phony in her claim of "neutrality." Big surprise!; 2/28/11, 2:10 PM
kent said...: Ted Kennedy, who hired out an entire brothel for his own enjoyment during a trip to Santiago, Chile in 1961.

"Ladies, ladies! Be patient, please! I can't possibly drown all of you at once, for heaven's sake -- !!"; 2/28/11, 2:12 PM
KCFleming said...: Unless Ted drove a bus.; 2/28/11, 2:15 PM
I'm a Shaaaaark said...: If you check the link you can see that "the story" comes from none other than Charlie Sykes. Sykes makes Rush Limbaugh and Ed Schultz look like wimpy non-partisans. Ann once again proves that she is a big phony in her claim of "neutrality." Big surprise!

Yeah, except if you look at where she got the info from - you know, the link in the original post? - it came from a commenter here.

But I suppose reading is sometimes difficult when you're looking to attack the messenger in order to deflect...; 2/28/11, 2:16 PM
Revenant said...: Men who use paid sex workers find little need to show respect to women.

Does that mean you only show respect to women because you're hoping they'll put out?; 2/28/11, 2:19 PM
Scott M said...: Does that mean you only show respect to women because you're hoping they'll put out?

What part of the last 10,000 years or so did you miss?; 2/28/11, 2:21 PM
Revenant said...: Call a heckler "macaca" and your career is over.

Actually, Allen will probably win the seat in 2012.; 2/28/11, 2:23 PM
KCFleming said...: Question is, do women dig guys dressed up in a tiger suit?; 2/28/11, 2:23 PM
DADvocate said...: Oh, those idiosycrantic Democrats. They're really kind of cute and petulant. Trying to be adult and just can't quite get there.; 2/28/11, 2:28 PM
DADvocate said...: Tell a Republican that she is "...fucking dead!" and you probably get an invite to the White House.

Hasn't Obama already invited them over to have a beer?; 2/28/11, 2:30 PM
Anonymous said...: But, but, but, but, but Sharron Angle mentioned the 2nd Amendment at a rally!!!!!; 2/28/11, 2:41 PM
Lincolntf said...: "Actually, Allen will probably win the seat in 2012."

Oh, yeah. I'd forgotten he was back in the thick of the things. That whole "scandal" was ludicrous. I certainly hope he wins.; 2/28/11, 2:56 PM
Methadras said...: Of course this lacks coverage. It's leftards circling the wagons. I'm shocked, SHOCKED!!! that it was a leftard saying this to a republican. This clearly is his death fantasy.; 2/28/11, 3:01 PM
Methadras said...: NotYourTypicalNewYorker said...

"....Gordon called and apologized."

Oh, never mind then.

Let me put it you this way. If this piece of garbage said this to my wife. He would be the one fucking dead with an apology not accepted stapled to his fucking forehead.; 2/28/11, 3:03 PM
Methadras said...: Pogo said...

Question is, do women dig guys dressed up in a tiger suit?

Only if they have a furry fetish.; 2/28/11, 3:03 PM
Anonymous said...: "... who notes the lack of press coverage."

Huh? YOU covered it, right?

YOU are the press, Ann (and Meade).

If I want information about what's going on at the Wisconsin statehouse, I turn to the people's press.

So, the press did cover this, because you are the press!

Ohhhhhh .... you meant lack of coverage by the other old press that few read or buy any longer? That press? Who cares that those dinosaurs did not cover the news that occurs in their neighborhood. I wouldn't have bought their account anyway or anything from any of their advertisers who waste money buying space.; 2/28/11, 3:20 PM
Lincolntf said...: That's one angry baby.; 2/28/11, 3:20 PM
Phil 314 said...: I want to sound all '60's and shout:
THE WHOLE WORLD'S WATCHING!! THE WHOLE WORLD'S WATCHING

but they're not. So I'll just sigh...; 2/28/11, 3:30 PM
deborah said...: Speaking of furries, here's an interesting clip from Wired.

But Second Life represented a new frontier in troublemaking potential. It was serious business run amok. Here was an entire population of players that insisted Second Life was not a game — and a developer that encouraged them to believe it, facilitating the exchange of in-game Linden dollars for real money and inviting corporations to market virtual versions of their actual products.

And better still, here was a game that had somehow become the Internet's top destination for a specimen of online weirdo the Goons had long ago adopted as their favorite target: the Furries, with their dedication to role-playing the lives — and sex lives — of cuddly anthropomorphic woodland creatures.

Thus began the Second Life Goon tradition of jaw-droppingly offensive theme lands. This has included the re-creation of the burning Twin Towers (tiny falling bodies included) and a truly icky murdered-hooker crime scene (in which a hermaphrodite Furry prostitute lay naked, violated, and disemboweled on a four-poster bed, while an assortment of coded-in options gave the visitor chances for further violation). But the first and perhaps most expertly engineered of these provocations was Tacowood — a parody of the Furry region known as Luskwood. In Tacowood, rainbow-dappled woodlands have been overrun by the bulldozers and chain saws of a genocidal "defurrestation" campaign and populated with the corpses of formerly adorable cartoon animal folk now variously beheaded, mutilated, and nailed to crosses.

All hail the Technium.; 2/28/11, 3:37 PM
Fen said...: Only if they have a furry fetish.

Yah, that was a CSI episode I wish I hadn't seen.

Yiffing. Ewwwww.; 2/28/11, 4:32 PM
deborah said...: Here Fen, my first post of this got eaten:

"But Second Life represented a new frontier in troublemaking potential. It was serious business run amok. Here was an entire population of players that insisted Second Life was not a game — and a developer that encouraged them to believe it, facilitating the exchange of in-game Linden dollars for real money and inviting corporations to market virtual versions of their actual products.

And better still, here was a game that had somehow become the Internet's top destination for a specimen of online weirdo the Goons had long ago adopted as their favorite target: the Furries, with their dedication to role-playing the lives — and sex lives — of cuddly anthropomorphic woodland creatures.

Thus began the Second Life Goon tradition of jaw-droppingly offensive theme lands. This has included the re-creation of the burning Twin Towers (tiny falling bodies included) and a truly icky murdered-hooker crime scene (in which a hermaphrodite Furry prostitute lay naked, violated, and disemboweled on a four-poster bed, while an assortment of coded-in options gave the visitor chances for further violation). But the first and perhaps most expertly engineered of these provocations was Tacowood — a parody of the Furry region known as Luskwood. In Tacowood, rainbow-dappled woodlands have been overrun by the bulldozers and chain saws of a genocidal "defurrestation" campaign and populated with the corpses of formerly adorable cartoon animal folk now variously beheaded, mutilated, and nailed to crosses."

http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-02/mf_goons?currentPage=3; 2/28/11, 4:50 PM
Fen said...: OMG

My eyes!; 2/28/11, 5:08 PM
Anonymous said...: Don't take the threat literally. He didn't mean dead dead.; 2/28/11, 5:18 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: No problem! Must be Sarah Palin's fault.; 2/28/11, 6:23 PM
Synova said...: I really think that people need to stop accepting apologies.

It's disgusting.

How about, "He said what he said and there is no reason to think he didn't mean it. I'll not accept an apology that is no more than being sorry he got caught. This is who he is. He can live with it."

Actually, didn't Christie do something like that? Something like... if you didn't fire the person who publicly wished me dead, then your apology is a lie and NO I will not accept it.; 2/28/11, 6:43 PM
The Dude said...: Liberals : civility :: muslims : peace.; 2/28/11, 7:37 PM
Fen said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/28/11, 8:51 PM
Fen said...: Why does he get away with this?

If I went up to him and said "You are f-ing dead!" I'd be hauled away to jail before I could even think of an apology.; 2/28/11, 8:51 PM
Famous Original Mike said...: Wisconsin sure is the nicest, most civil state in the union! Much better than those Neanderthals in the South and cranky New Englanders. Just a bastion of good manners, decorum, and traditional Midwestern values!; 2/28/11, 9:23 PM