Permanently. Hot? Sit still, drink water, and stop being so selfish. Stan Cox promotes the joys of going AC-free. But it's just a pep talk. And anyway, why should you feel joy, sinner? It will feel bad. It should feel bad. The only good feelings that are appropriate are: 1. Expiating your sins, and 2. the sheer impact with reality.
AND: Here are some more things I want to see from you to prove that you really believe in global warming.
1. Your weight should be at the low end of normal, indicating that you are not overconsuming the products of agriculture.
2. You should not engage in vigorous physical exercise, as this will increase your caloric requirements. You may do simple weight-lifting or calisthenics to keep in shape. Check how many calories per hour are burned and choose a form of exercise that burns as few calories as possible.
3. Free time should be spent sitting or lying still without using electricity. Don't run the television or music playing device. Reading, done by sunlight is the best way to pass free time. After dark, why not have a pleasant conversation with friends or family? Word games or board games should replace sports or video games.
4. Get up at sunrise. Don't waste the natural light. Try never to turn on the electric lights in your house or workplace. Put compact fluorescent bulbs in all your light fixtures. The glow is so ugly that it will reduce the temptation to turn them on.
5. Restrict your use of transportation. Do not assume that walking or biking is less productive of carbon emissions than using a highly efficient small car. Do not go anywhere you don't have to go. When there is no food in the house to make dinner, instead of hopping in the car to go to the grocery store or a restaurant, take it as a cue to fast. As noted above, your weight should be at the low end of normal, and opportunities to reach or stay there should be greeted with a happy spirit.
6. If you have free time, such as a vacation from work, spend it in your home town. Read library books, redo old jigsaw puzzles, meditate, tell stories to your children — the list of activities is endless. Just thinking up more items to put on that list is an activity that could be on the list. Really embrace this new way of life. A deep satisfaction and mental peace can be achieved knowing that you are saving the earth.
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Whose payroll are you on?
At least Garage said something funny and on thread.
Can't help it, JAL. I never let a thoughtless insult go unchallenged.
Ritmo:
No Moby here, infrequent poster and Kunt knocker of the altmeade douche's.
Why now are you saying "here is my ass, please ream"?
Please don't make the tea-baggers right
Howard said: "So you don't believe in radiation physics and Plank."
Then he said something equally nonsensical about my "kunt".
???
Titus called, he wants his spiel back.
Re. Planck: Maybe you're alluding to the Planck versus Bohr controversies, I'm not sure. I'm not a historian of science. But the fact that CO2 only captures light in a few narrow bandwidths is well known.
Ritmo: Still waiting for the degrees in Fahrenheit that the earth has warmed. Since it is a "fact" then it should be in that source of all information for progressives: wiki. Not there?
'66 hardtop with the automatic transmission...
But "unsafe at any speed"?
GM had fixed the suspension by that time.
I used to ride in my aunt's '60 Corvair -- that was the Nader Special. I guess I'm lucky to be alive. She bought it with the paychecks from her first job, as a secretary -- living with the parents really raises your discretionary income. She traded it in for a '65 Mustang.
I'm certain that all the engineers who designed and created the Wheel, Pyramids, Roman Roads and Aquaducts, The Great Wall of China, Angkor Wat, the spring, the water wheel, the Flaked Flint blade and point, chariot, bow and arrow, the screw, hinge, reduction gears, steam engine, concrete, radio tube, box-girder and suspension bridges and transistors will all be happy to hear that they were all merely pig-ignorant, blinkered, unthinking robotic tools of management.
Assuming they weren't mostly all dead, and could still hear, of course.
Michael:
I've lost interest ever since a year ago when it was obvious that the neoconservatives were too interested in politicizing this to do anything about changing the rate of increase in time to affect predictions. If there is a source whose conclusions everyone would agree on, that would be one thing. But I'm not aware that anyone's come up with any. The right will just keep throwing out any objection they can come up with - from the science to the prescriptions.
The variability in precisely what they object to is what convinces me that they will hopelessly politicize it.
In the meantime, I think caution and finding alternatives is still wise. Not sexy. Not glamorous. Not nationalistic in the German sense. Just wise.
And if it turns out we were overcautious. Great. In the meantime we'll have encouraged the invention of a lot of useful things. Why this bothers anyone is beyond me.
FLS:
The history of oil is easy finds to hard nuts with the low-hanging fruit sagging to meet the increasing ability to pick it. The deep BP field was discovered by Exxon geologists 30-years ago.
Finite Oil=yes
Finite, however, might extend into geologic time. That's beyond Star Trek for you circle-jerkers.
Peak oil is the one popular flaw in brilliant career of Marion King Hubbert. He is a god to hydrogeologist everywhere when he stuck to maths and not wild speculation.
Cox has a great idea.
Want to reduce the size of gummint?
No AC in Washington!!!
I'm for it.
(Liberals NEVER see the unintended consequences.)
Ritmo Brasileiro said...
I would be interested in which tax rates have been cut by this Administration and Congress. I can probably find you a dozen at least that have been raised, with a lot more coming at the end of the year, when the Bush Tax Cuts expire.
And, I would be interested in any historical examples you can find where raising taxes in the midst of a recession helped get us out of the recession any faster.
1. The recession's ended. Fact. Period. End of story. Economics and all that.
Another "The science is settled" attempt at stifling dissent. And even the Democrat governors don't buy it.
When the U-6 drops below 10, it just might work, but not now.
I'm certain that all the engineers who designed and created the Wheel, Pyramids, Roman Roads and Aquaducts, The Great Wall of China, Angkor Wat, the spring, the water wheel, the Flaked Flint blade and point, chariot, bow and arrow, the screw, hinge, reduction gears, steam engine, concrete, radio tube, box-girder and suspension bridges and transistors will all be happy to hear that they were all merely pig-ignorant, blinkered, unthinking robotic tools of management.
Assuming they weren't mostly all dead, and could still hear, of course.
Well, luckily, they didn't have a board of directors more concerned with short-term profits than long-term glory to worry about.
You're starting to contradict yourself and some of what you said earlier, at this point.
"Why does the state of knowledge in 1940 become the standard for discussions in 2010?"
Because advances in technology more often than not proves "expert" assumptions to have been completely wrong, is why!
Or would you rather go back to living in a world where, for example, disease was considered the wages of sin, and not (often) the product of bacterial and viral infections or parasites, a debate, revelation and scientific advancement that wouldn't have possible without new technology -- i.e. the microscope.
Sheesh! Have to lead you to the toilet by the hand, next.
Aw just go cave man gang. Real Stone Age!
See the cave man knew a thing or two about Global Warming. Go nude, poop outdoors, bath in the rain, eat out of the garbage bin, yea cave man, now that’s real ‘green’.
And don't go look at Al "crazed sex poodle" Gore and his eight million dollar air conditioned house cause the 'cerebral' are different from you and me.
Pasta:
If you are confused on the relationship between Plank and global warming, please go back to jerking off to Arnold Schwarzenegger movies.
Bohr does not factor in, btw. Thanks for the name drop, lets me know my instincts on human garbage are still sharp.
Ritmo: Nice long rambling non-answer.
If it is, as you assert, a fact that the earth has warmed then there must be a number of degrees (or percentages of a degree) that the earth has warmed.
You say it is a fact. What is that fact in Fahrenheit?
Apologies for confusing Michael with Matthew. The one from Staten Island who hates humanity (which is, I suppose, not so far from understandable given the circumstances) is not so much my concern.
"Well, luckily, they didn't have a board of directors more concerned with short-term profits than long-term glory to worry about."
Yeah, guess Columbus, Galileo, Pasteur, Edison, Tesla, Leeuwenhoek, Gutenburg, Archimedes, Henry the Navigator and Ortellius weren't interested in making money, huh?
How silly of me!
Matthew:
Flush out your headgear newguy.
Hard Science of the past 300-years is all pretty good. Engineers use a lot of old science to solve new problems today.
I recommend you study science and engineering to get a fucking clue before you decide to show your kunt. Once you get a handle on:
Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica
Then we can talk.
OK, I'm going to bed now, but one last thought:
Ritzy said: "Anyone who thinks one person's personal choices alone would impact AGW hereby absolves himself of having anything credible to say that even remotely involves mathematics."
Well, I suppose that one person can't make much of a difference. I might as well spew as much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere as I can afford.
Of course, Ritzy, you could try to convince everyone of the urgency of the situation, and then they'd just voluntarily go along with your plan and you wouldn't have to impose draconian restrictions an anyone. Tell you what, I'll spot you a friendly media and Hollywood. Hell, I'll give you an entire network owned and controlled by the biggest windmill generator manufacturer in the world. And I'll give you almost monolithic control of academia and education all the way down to kindergarten. All you have to do is make your case.
Speaking of mathematics: That was actually my major. And you made me cringe the other night when you described Kurt Godel as primarily a philosopher who was also a mathematician. He was one of the most significant mathematicians of the twentieth century. Set theory and logic get tangled up with philosophy, but he was first and foremost a mathematician.
Questioning assumptions is not a non-answer. We are talking about something in which the urgency of any action is precisely the issue. Some answers we can wait forever for. Some we can't.
Your lawyering of this doesn't change the fact that people disagree on the sources. You find sources of average global temperatures (and how they were measured, another thing you assume to be uniform) that disagree with each other and then we'll go from there and pretend to re-invent the entire field.
I love humanity...I just hate People.
"Why does the state of knowledge in 1940 become the standard for discussions in 2010?"
Because folly and error are revealed best over time.
Howard, I was DEFENDING engineeers and scientists-- not running them down.
I should have put a sarcasm tag on that one, huh?
Well, I suppose that one person can't make much of a difference. I might as well spew as much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere as I can afford.
No, you might as well not. That does not follow. Not everyone believes that gleefully marching headlong into disaster is a great thing. Try listening to less Wagner.
Of course, Ritzy, you could try to convince everyone of the urgency of the situation, and then they'd just voluntarily go along with your plan and you wouldn't have to impose draconian restrictions an anyone.
Everyone? I'm only interested in how this clique here thinks.
Tell you what, I'll spot you a friendly media and Hollywood. Hell, I'll give you an entire network owned and controlled by the biggest windmill generator manufacturer in the world. And I'll give you almost monolithic control of academia and education all the way down to kindergarten. All you have to do is make your case.
What's evident in your friends' treatment of algore (sic) (and of me earlier!) is that you're generally more interested in the purity of the messenger than in the reason that can be found in the message.
Mikie:
It's about 0.7-degrees Kelvin since 1850.
Science does not use F anymore.
It could be natural, it could be CO2. The globo warmering promoters say the real heat to come is in the pipeline. When they find that pipeline, you will be told.
Until then, enjoy your status as a consumer. Remember, cattle are consumers as well... until they become commodities.
"Ritmo: Nice long rambling non-answer."
"Ritmo Brasileiro" is Klingon for lorem ipsum.
Because folly and error are revealed best over time.
I'm glad that you and your troupe have declared yourselves arbiters on what the follies and errors are and were.
Let me ask the absolutists here a question? Of what value is partial truth? When science reverses a finding, but does not replace it with the previously held theory, does that make the finding in question useless? Or do you assume it held some value in advancing the state of empiric understanding?
None of you seem to understand how progress occurs. By your account, Newtonian physics was declared useless the day Einstein published his findings on relativity.
Howard, what in the fuck is wrong with you?
Name dropping? You're the one that tossed a misspelling of Planck's name into the conversation with no explanation. What the hell?
"Human garbage"? Are you deranged?
Physics isn't a matter of "instinct", Howard. I suggest that you go back to infrequent commenting. You're out of your depth here, son. Tossing in quotes from Full Metal Jacket doesn't help.
I'm too short for this shit.
The defining difference between liberals and conservatives is shown in Stan Cox's story. It is the Carter solution to wear a sweater and turn the thermostat down in winter.
Conservatives and most right thinking folks don't want to regress to the stone ages. If carbon in the problem, find a better way. Build nukes like the French.
But liberals wuld rather wear hair shirts. It gives them a feeling of redemtion. Me, I'd rather turn the thermostat to very cold (I live in Florida). And it keeps the ice in my pina colada from melting.
"Ritmo Brasileiro" is Klingon for lorem ipsum.
Oh, go chop your balls off and try to use them as locating devices to hunt down the terrorists.
Stop being such a simpleton.
Matthew:
I was responding to your earlier comment alluding to the "humors" and "phlogiston" type of theories to slam old science before 1940.
I would rather go back to the pre-1940 world where morons knew they had nothing of any significance to say.
""Ritmo Brasileiro" is Klingon for lorem ipsum."
Come on, Ritzy, you have to admit, that's a pretty good one.
OK, I'm off to bed. Have fun with Howard, he's a little piece of heaven.
Night, Pasta.
I don't harbor ill-will toward Bag and don't mind if you found his little quip funny.
Although I thought mine was funnier - but I'm biased.
Pasta:
You caught me. I do name drop and can not spell. I hear that lack of spelling is a sign of men and concentrating on spelling is a sign of women.
Sorry, I thought you were a man, my bad.
Planck's black-body + radiation physics = global warming. Without global warming, we would not be here tippy-tapping insults on trillion-dollar networks designed for post-apocalyptic communication among the survivors sequestered in mine shafts.
Nukes aren't so bad once the government decides it will reprocess spent fuel. But consigning 90+% of the waste to storage is a problem the French never had to deal with.
Rit-Ro, I take some of it back.
You hit nail on nuke kuntness of USA. We need to be more like the French.
Usually, it takes just one or two posts for me to kill a thread. You girls are tough!
I retire.
I don't see where the disagreement is. I'm going back over your comments to find any that I missed.
Enjoy the Central CA coast sunset.
Nukes aren't so bad once the government decides it will reprocess spent fuel. But consigning 90+% of the waste to storage is a problem the French never had to deal with.
Well, then, let's reprocess. I'm all in favor of it. I suspect that most here would agree.
Ritmo,
Run Forrest.
Degrees Kelvin is redundant.
wv: geoph
Fellow republicans just returned from Burlington Vermont and is was fab, natch.
Congrads to Steve Sticker or whatever his name on winning the Peoria Classic, parents were very happy. Yes, mom I know he lives in Cherokee.
My hog always breathes better in the Mountain Air of Vermont. Also, the rare clumbers pinch massive loaves on walks through petrified forests.
The food, people, cover bridges, mountains, all so very fabulous.
Love that the Fab Stow Mountain Lodge has special rooms for Fag Unions. So nice.
Wow, Althouse, your friend Crackee seems a little supportive of bashing (literally) the womyn-interesting. Nice combo though. It works for you Mary.
I enjoy eating sentinent non human mammals. My favorite, fetal dolphins. Live marmasets are also quite yummy.
On our recent weekend getaway I found out my husband who is Indian but from the UK, does not know who David Bowie or Donna Summer is.
Is this strange?
He's 35 and lived in Scarborough UK and went to Leeds University. Shouldn't he at least know who David Bowie is?
Howard:
I did not slam science, prior to 1940 or otherwise. Go back and read for context.
The a/c issue illustrates how little people actually know about electric generation.
If an air conditioner (yours, let's say) is turned off, does the electric power plant automatically produce 15 ampere/hours less electricity, burning less coal or oil? Nope. There is not change at the power plant. There is no reduction in fuel burned.
Big-ass steam turbine generators are either on or off, and 99% of the time they are on. There is no part-throttle.
Sometimes a boost is needed for a short time, so one or more jet turbine generators may kick in, but they provide just a little bit of power at peak load conditions when the demand for watts is greater than the big generators can produce. Think of them as brownout insurance.
"But Haz", you say, "what about the windmills??"
They don't work when there is no wind. The are stopped when there is too much wind so that they don't fly apart. They do not produce a reliable stream of power. They are built to appease regulators and politicians so that the big generators can keep on spinning without penalty.
Ah ha, you are thinking, I'm a totally awesome green weenie who drives a plug-in electric car.
Right. How much sense does it make to turn off your 15 ampere/hour a/c so you can plug in a 60 amp, 320 volt battery for re-charging? How, exactly does that reduce the demand for electricity? It doesn't; it increases the demand. Hence causing more coal to be burned. Plug-in electric cars are coal powered in reality. As are electric choo-choo trains.
Turning off your a/c will not change so-called global warming, neither will driving a plug-in car.
Why is Greenland called Greenland?
(All those campfires.)
This has been a good discussion. In honor of Julius Ceasar's birthday, I wish all of you princes of western civilization a good night.
Fellow republicans, I have an admission.
I don't do anything about conserving any energy.
Newspapers, bottles, cans, everything goes into the same trashcan.
My fab loft is cooled to 62 and I have the door open to the Juliet Balcony that overlooks Harvard Square.
I wash clothes pretty much every day. As well as dishes.
Really, I just don't want to be bothered with the shit.
On a seperate note when driving my fab BMW 328xi, if I see a hot guy walking the street I scream, "Want A Blowjob". I can't help myself.
Thank you and Good Day.
The a/c issue illustrates how little people actually know about electric generation.
It's a matter of supply and demand. Limiting demand is cheaper than finding more supply.
For example, utilities will charge you less if you're willing to let them shut off your AC briefly, during very hot, peak demand days.
Here's a blurb from Detroit Edison: Special interruptible rates offer our residential customers discounted electricity prices in return for permission to occasionally interrupt electrical service.
Our CoolCurrents Air Conditioning Rate Program could save you up to 20% off your basic service rate. To take advantage of this special rate, your central air conditioner or heat pump is wired to a separate meter and radio control unit.
By allowing us to briefly cycle your service by remote control on very hot days or when there is a high demand for electricity, you save over the basic residential rate. The cycles are limited to 15 minutes maximum at a time followed by at least 15 minutes of operation and limited to no more than eight hours in a 24-hour period so the cycling should not noticeably affect the temperature inside your home.
How can you tell if your service is being interrupted?
The red light on the radio-control unit mounted near your electric meter will be lit during the "off" portion of the cycling period.
Keep cool and save money, too! Call us at 800.477.4747 to ask about being placed on the D1.1 Interruptible Rate.
@ritmo
My only demand is substance.
Who gives a shit? A show of hands? Anyone else? Bueller?
Watching Sctickmo defend the indefensible is like watching Titus trying to find his helmet and directions to the short bus. Really Schtickmo, what the fuck are you defending here? You always end up on the wrong side of every subject and you just don't get it. At least ask Titus for his helmet so you could put it on while your bonking your head up against the walls you build.
FLS - my point was that the electric generators are either full-on or full-off. At peak capacity, if there is excess demand, supplemental turbines spool up.
If several thousand a/c owners agree to interruption the generators don't slow down. They keep spinning, coal keeps burning.
Offering to turn someone's a/c off on the hottest days of the year is like the water utility asking you if you'd like your water supply interrupted when you're most thirsty.
The best way to defeat global warming, then, is to eat all the right wing nuts on this page.
Ann's liberal "alt"er-ego could have a similar post entitled, "If you really believed in the free market, you would support the end of Reaganomics."
Point being: everybody's a hypocrite when it comes to their principles. The fact of the matter, though, is that conservatives are way bigger hypocrites than liberals, because they're unable to see and deal with their own hypocrisy. All they are able to do is notice those who they hate; i.e. - Ann hates liberals, so she makes smarmy posts like this.
Walter said...
The best way to defeat global warming, then, is to eat all the right wing nuts on this page.
Ann's liberal "alt"er-ego could have a similar post entitled, "If you really believed in the free market, you would support the end of Reaganomics."
Point being: everybody's a hypocrite when it comes to their principles. The fact of the matter, though, is that conservatives are way bigger hypocrites than liberals, because they're unable to see and deal with their own hypocrisy. All they are able to do is notice those who they hate; i.e. - Ann hates liberals, so she makes smarmy posts like this.
You see folks, this is the kind of bullshit that infests the leftards dead-bolt mentality. Moral equivocations as a function of which ideology is more hypocritical. As if this is the gauge and measure of ones principals against that alleged hypocrisy. Hey Walter, guess what fuckhead. I don't give a shit if this planet is warming or cooling. It doesn't matter. What are you going to do, force compliance on the populace to get you and your ilks way? Oh yeah, that's exactly what is being attempted now isn't it? So while you and your kind are wailing and gnashing teeth at the horror of AGW and it's 'dire' consequences as you take your cues from manbearpoodlepig on what to think and how to think it, then please just go wallow in your cave of leftard pity at the death of mommy earth and let the real producers to what they have to either make it better and make a profit or fulfill your self-professed destiny of watching humanity ass fuck Gaia in which we will evaporate into time with no one to see it happen. Then you can be happy in whatever miserable afterlife you will reside in. Just stop trying to characterize me as a hypocrite with which I'll just tell you to go fuck yourself and furthermore stop trying to tell me how to live my life with the money I earn, the property I own, and how and what I do with it while going behind my back to circle jerk your favorite political leftard to get him or her to get me to comply to the law you backdoored into my life. You are the problem.
@Michael Haz
Exactly. Greenies confuse power consumption with power resouces.
Turning off our AC will not conserve power for as you say, power is generated or purchased non-stop at a day-ahead market rate. Whenever the power grid has excess to demand it is traded on the spot market. As this graph from CAISO shows state-wide resources, both generated and purchased, exceed demand by a wide margin. This daily margin generates revenue for the power companies, grid operators and state. In power rich states the spot market is a serious revenue enhancer.
"Since you cannot quantify the available supply (that would require an exact number, and you don't have one, see?), you cannot make the argument that a supply is "finite"."
Another faith-based scientist!!!
Actually the supply is not finite, since we know how to produce oil from biological material. It just isn't energy-efficient, for obvious reasons. The supply of naturally-occurring oil isn't finite, either; the rate of production is just less than the rate of consumption. How much less, we don't know; presumably much less.
So a non-faith-based scientist would say simply that relying on oil as an energy source isn't viable in the long term. How long we have left is a question that can't be answered, since it is a function of the future economy and extraction technology.
"The a/c issue illustrates how little people actually know about electric generation."
It's a matter of supply and demand. Limiting demand is cheaper than finding more supply.
Cheaper in dollars, more expensive in misery. I'm more interested in avoiding the latter than clinging to the former.
As this graph from CAISO shows state-wide resources, both generated and purchased, exceed demand by a wide margin.
As a side note, this was sadly not true when Reliant and Enron managed California's power plants. Ah the free market, with its brownouts and blackouts. Once California was rid of its dependence on buccaneers, its power became much more reliable. Companies that actually added generating capacity, like Calpine, instead of manipulating it, took it in the shorts.
As a side note, this was sadly not true when Reliant and Enron managed California's power plants. Ah the free market, with its brownouts and blackouts.
You appear to have confused a state-licensed monopoly with "the free market". Please consult an economics textbook and try again.
@ mathadras
Did you cry a little as you typed that?
Your anger tells me Glenn Beck is making more money off of you than you are making off yourself.
It is the typical Republican teabagging, demagogue cock-licking philosophy like your own that proves time and time over that while freedom hating conservatives like yourself live in fear of change because of what might happen, liberals and bright conservatives work - yes, work - for responsible change to make life better for everybody - including the sad, ignorant imps like yourself who get drunk and start worrying about their money with their keyboards to big bad invisible liberals they can't understand.
It kind of reminds me of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ik4f1dRbP8
Is that you - the angry guy throwing dollar bills and screaming, "no more handouts!" at a man with Parkinson's disease?
Typical teabagging scum.
Hey - it's nearly 2 am. It's about time for you to start licking Glenn Beck's scrote again, isn't it?
Point being: everybody's a hypocrite when it comes to their principles. The fact of the matter, though, is that conservatives are way bigger hypocrites than liberals, because they're unable to see and deal with their own hypocrisy. All they are able to do is notice those who they hate; i.e. - Ann hates liberals, so she makes smarmy posts like this.
Yeh, and they all, without exception, fly their private jets to global warming conferences and talk about Two Americas from their 20,000 square foot houses across the street from trailer parks. They put admitted tax cheats in charge of the Treasury department and writing tax legislation and the bagman for a pardons-for-cash scam in charge of the Judiciary department. And, they retain their leaders when caught sexually exploiting women on the grounds that they are on the right side of abortion.
Walter said...
@ mathadras
Did you cry a little as you typed that?
Your anger tells me Glenn Beck is making more money off of you than you are making off yourself.
It is the typical Republican teabagging, demagogue cock-licking philosophy like your own that proves time and time over that while freedom hating conservatives like yourself live in fear of change because of what might happen, liberals and bright conservatives work - yes, work - for responsible change to make life better for everybody - including the sad, ignorant imps like yourself who get drunk and start worrying about their money with their keyboards to big bad invisible liberals they can't understand.
It kind of reminds me of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ik4f1dRbP8
Is that you - the angry guy throwing dollar bills and screaming, "no more handouts!" at a man with Parkinson's disease?
Typical teabagging scum.
Hey - it's nearly 2 am. It's about time for you to start licking Glenn Beck's scrote again, isn't it?
Yawn. Hey Walter, the next time you want to throw around the names of Glenn 'Overproduced' Beck and use moronic homoerotic epithets like 'teabagging scum', please get a better leftard script to read form okay? You couldn't have done a worse job of a copy n' paste than you did right here. First of all you got it all wrong. Second of all, your incoherent rant is a deluge of sheer retard rage. You aren't even a liberal, you aren't even a good leftard. Your just a mouth-breathing monkey who's last two neurons are playing rock, paper, scissor on which one is going to die next while the other one is left to keep your autonomic functions on tilt.
Look chimp, you made a statement, so please stick by your statement, or is the irony of your little tard rage escaping you right now? Idiot.
You appear to have confused a state-licensed monopoly with "the free market".
Under deregulation, utilities could buy power from anyone. Not like the bad old days of regulation, where they had to settle for whatever ROIC the government allowed.
I don't have AC. I just keep my fridge door open.
I bet WAPO has the AC on at it's home office. It's always "what's for thee, not for me" with the liars and sociopaths on the left.
Nuts, I'm currently on a voluntary (well not so much) effort to reduce my carbon footprint. The AC has been out and we're not getting it fixed anytime soon.
And a good buddy of mine who has lost his job the past couple of months is not running his AC just to cut down on costs. Granted his kids are whining but they'll be able to get by for at least a half a year with what he's got saved.
Yeah, it's miserable around 6pm here in the south. Except for brief respite from the downdraft of passing thunderstorms. Then it's PARTY time!
Yeah, I'll stick to my words (the ones you conveniently ignored).
If Republicans really believed in the free market, they would abandon Reaganomics.
Once again - conservatives and liberals are alike in that both are complete hypocrites. The difference, again, is that liberals have the mental awareness to realize when they are being so and take steps to avoid it, while defeatist conservatives can't see the light at the end of the tunnel so they, instead, selfishly sit back and say, 'well, shit, I can't do anything to help, so I might as well make a lot of money and stay up late bitching at liberals about how awesome my money is.'
It's pretty pathetic - and your desperate response(s), which do(es)n't even begin to dispute anything in my comment(s) but instead just throw(s) childish insults straight out of the can - completely prove my point, and I'd like to thank you for that.
Perhaps, the American people should decide whether to turn off the AC in DC. We pay for it after all. If turned off, the result might be short, clear legiswlation that's to the point.
Oh and if you're a big lib you should either take no tax deductions whatsoever or just in case the IRS insists that you do - you should write a check to the US treasury every year for the amount that you actually owe in taxes. If taxes are so great you should not try to avoid them. When you're willing to do this you can talk to me about raising taxes until then shut up.
"I look around and there is no communism anywhere on earth." -- Montagne Montaigne
"The socialists's most feared enemies are history and reason." -- Mark Steyn
Libtard: It's pretty pathetic - and your desperate response(s), which do(es)n't even begin to dispute anything in my comment(s
No. He pretty much nailed you.
Your "principles" devolve to what you believe Goldstein's are. Or more precisely, what the MSM tells you they are. And you lap it all up like a good little Eichmann.
And no, you cant suck my balls, pervert.
When I was a kid we went skinny dipping in the creek on hot days. I think there should be a lot more skinny dipping...
I'm constantly astounded by all of the people living here in Minnesota who glare at me from their Pious window when I drive past in the Suburban or the big ol' American muscle car.
They've chosen to live in an area in which we must heat our residences, stores, schools, offices, government facilities and other habitable buildings for six to eight months of each year.
Given our rather horrid summer humidity, ("The Land of Ten Thousand Lakes" is just a nice way to describe a border-to-border swamp), most everyone also has AC going for the two or three months in which 95 degrees at 90% humidity reigns.
Until they move away to some environment which requires far less energy in order to maintain livable temperatures, they really ought not be concerning themselves with my vehicle choices.
Thus spake the GW Nazis"
No SCOTUS for you, Ann!
Al Gore is very professorial.
Bernie Ward? Professorial, big time.
Under deregulation, utilities could buy power from anyone. Not like the bad old days of regulation, where they had to settle for whatever ROIC the government allowed.
Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about. Again.
The power providers had no ROIC restrictions, certainly. The utilities -- the state-licensed monopolies -- still did. They were legally obligated to purchase power at whatever price people felt like charging them, and legally forbidden from increasing the rates they charged consumers. That you think a market with price controls is a "free market" says a lot about you, but very little about the perils of free markets.
The lesson to be drawn from this is that if you're going to deregulate a market, deregulate the market. Don't deregulate production while keeping price controls in place -- that causes shortages and financial catastrophe in 100% of cases. See Zimbabwe for an example.
I bet the Washington Post Offices are air conditioned during the summer months. Hypocrites.
And why publish newspapers anyway? If they publish an actual paper they kill trees, and if they put their content online they are expending a tremendous amount of power to host their site (Not to mention all the computers who are accessing their site also expending power). Better to simply shut down the WP and have all its employees go home and reaquaint themselves with their families jigsaw puzzles. It's only right.
I bet the Washington Post Offices are air conditioned during the summer months. Hypocrites.
And why publish newspapers anyway? If they publish an actual paper they kill trees, and if they put their content online they are expending a tremendous amount of power to host their site (Not to mention all the computers who are accessing their site also expending power). Better to simply shut down the WP and have all its employees go home and reaquaint themselves with their families jigsaw puzzles. It's only right.
NBC had a GREEN WEEK, and that included flying Matt Lauer all over the world, and broadcasting countless NFL games.
But they did "turn off" the lights in the NBC Football Night in America Studios, except for those huge big screens that ran Toyota ads.
Bunch of fucking lying assholes.
Professorial though, gotta give them that.
Just buy more carbon credits, and go on as usual ...
Here are some more things I want to see from you to prove that you really believe in global warming.
1. Your weight should be at the low end of normal..
2. You should not engage in vigorous physical exercise...
3. Free time should be spent sitting or lying still without using electricity...
4. Get up at sunrise. Don't waste the natural light...
5. Restrict your use of transportation...
6. If you have free time...spend it in your home town...
ah, but these rules are for the little people, not the Socialist Scum that want to implement them.
A person exhales around 300 grams of CO2 per day (109.5 kg or 240 lbs per year) (http://www.mrp3.com/bobf/global_warming.html). This being the case, the true believers should kill themselves. Imagine, if just one person doesn't dump 240 lbs per year of CO2 into the atmosphere, simply by ending his or her life, the savings for all true believers would be huge. And, that doesn't account for things like transportation, food, cell phones, etc.
Al Gore should lead the way.
Logical extension of the argument: "Refrigerators? We don't need no stinkin' refrigerators!!!"
Ditto the locally-grown food craze: I want to know how many greenies are digging root cellars to store their potatoes. How many of them are canning and preserving their fruits and veggies to eat over the winter?? What do they expect their their local restaurants to be serving all winter? Beet soup?
They were legally obligated to purchase power at whatever price people felt like charging them, and legally forbidden from increasing the rates they charged consumers.
I remember, I was there. The reason for deregulation was that power would soon be dirt cheap, once the heavy hand of the state regulator was removed. Power generators would compete to get the utilities' business, driving down price to get market share. The need to cut price would motivate efforts to cut costs further, leading to a bonanza for consumers. That's how the free market works, right? That's pretty much why GOP Gov. Pete Wilson pushed deregulation, as I recall.
Sure, hindsight is 20-20, but I don't see you bashing Pete Wilson.
Rereading that heading, I think I'd say that I'd consider it when Al Gore and his U.N., Washington and Hollywood chums reduced their carbon footprints to my size and spread their own wealth around.
Hey, now that Tipper and Al are divorced, I suppose it wouldn't be too much to ask that Al give up the mansion and move into a studio apartment. BMaybe I'm being presumptuous here, but how much space does he need as a single man?
I'm not saying he should give up his life completely, but seriously, do environmentalists like Al Gore or most of hollywood realize the degree to which their lavish lifestyles combined with their oh so smug preaching about environmental issues make them look like the worlds biggest hypocritical jackasses?
That's how the free market works, right? That's pretty much why GOP Gov. Pete Wilson pushed deregulation, as I recall.
I notice you conveniently overlooked the Democratic legislature that actually passed the stupid thing.
Anyway, FLS, yes, that is how the free market works. Which is why it didn't work in this case -- because, as noted above, the market wasn't free. Pop quiz, which of the following markets is a free market:
(A): One in which buyers are legally required to pay any cost sellers offer, and in which the supply of sellers is kept strictly limited by the government, or...
(B): One in which sellers are forbidden to raise their prices, regardless of what THEIR costs are, or...
(C): One in which sellers are free to charge what they wish, and new sellers are free to enter the market.
Hint: C
Option (A) describes the market between California utilities and power providers. The utilities were required to buy, and new providers were forbidden from entering the market because the California government is too retarded to approve new power plants.
Option (B) describes the market between utilities and consumers. Utilities had no way to cover their costs or to discourage people to use less of the (government-restricted) power supply.
Option (C) is a free market. We haven't had a free market in electrical power for... hm, ever? Maybe sometime in the early 20th century?
In a free market, prices signal whether the market needs more or less supply product. If you forbid prices from changing and forbid the supply from increasing -- and California did both of these things even after "deregulating" -- you set yourself up to be (a) robbed blind by providers and (b) go bankrupt. And unsurprisingly, those things happened.
I don't see you bashing Pete Wilson.
Why would I single out Pete Wilson for bashing, and exclude Gray Davis and the California legislature? They all screwed up, big time, for years. They're still screwing up on a daily basis, eleven years after Wilson's political career ended.
I think Ben Franklin beat Althouse to the punch (does Althouse even like punch?) when he said:
Early to bed,
Early to rise,
Or the ice caps will melt,
and everyone dies.
We have one AC for one bedroom, a small unit. The rest of the house goes on fans and opening a skylight at night to vent off the restof the day's heat.
That doesn't do squat for high humidity heat.
"Economics is a human study, prone to manipulation by infinitely more variables, and with fewer clear answers on much of anything. Get back to me when human nature becomes as consistent as you wish it were or when economics becomes as predictive of what you want it to predict."
The same can be said of climate science.
Short form,in three parts.
1. Models can be really useful in predicting future events. But the more variables involved, especially interrelated variables the fuzzier the link to reality. And, of course, the more time involved in the forecast the fuzzier the forecast.
Climatology involves many, many variables that interact in ways we do not understand well. The models suppose reactions after a certain level of CO2 that have never been observed.
2. The scientific method is an open and inclusive method. At its best you have the discovering scientist saying, "Lookee here." He provides the inputs and methodology to others to see if the results can be duplicated.
Climate scientists? Not so much. Input data... well we cherry picked surrogates. We manipulated those inputs... you can't have them and, besides even we can't really reproduce them. But trust us.
FOIA for public university studies. Nope, can't have them. It would just provide ammunition for the deniers. Besides "the science is settled" - a phrase that should send chills up the spine of any honest broker aware of items 1 and 2.
3. The solution is massive bureaucracy and taxes with insiders becoming immeasurably wealthy and powerful. Silence all questioners? Feh. Consider things like adaptation? Might they be cheaper or more effective? Not even to be spoken of.
There is more, lots more. But I try not to waste too much time trying to change others religious beliefs.
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