Althouse: "Poll Finds Edge for Obama Over G.O.P. Among the Public."

February 12, 2010

"Poll Finds Edge for Obama Over G.O.P. Among the Public."

This NYT headline reminds me of the trite riposte "It's better than a swift kick in the head."

46 comments:

Icepick said...: "Poll Finds Edge for Obama Over G.O.P. Among the Public."

A steaming pile of horse shit edged out both, however....; 2/12/10, 7:57 PM
DADvocate said...: The headline betrays the NYT bias. The poll finds they all suck. As Icepick says, "A steaming pile of horse shit..."

Maybe that's because of all the political bullshit.

56 percent of respondents think that Mr. Obama does not have a plan to create jobs

Over half of us see the truth on the jobs issue.; 2/12/10, 8:19 PM
Sorin said...: More lickstick on a pig.; 2/12/10, 8:23 PM
Anonymous said...: ...Americans blame former President George W. Bush, Wall Street and Congress much more than they do Mr. Obama for the nation’s economic problems and the budget deficit, the poll found.

They credit Mr. Obama more than Republicans with making an effort at bipartisanship, and they back the White House’s policies on a variety of disputed issues, including allowing gay men and lesbians to serve openly in the military and repealing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

How fucking wonderful for us "Americans" to be told what we think!

This-- right there in that "journalistic" hubris!-- is the root cause of what is so wrong with the American system. I despise when the NY Times tells me what I think, just as I despite it when those Rightist fucktards at National Review do it too.

If there were a Fuck You Party, I would be signing up as a card-carrying member right now.

Hmmmm...

SARAH PALIN FOR EMPEROR!; 2/12/10, 8:26 PM
Irene said...: Thirty-four percent of those polled had not heard or read anything about the tea party movement.

Consider that when you analyze the results.; 2/12/10, 8:29 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: America's Pravda is still slinging horseshit.

It won't be long before we find out [from a blogger of course] the guvmint paid off its MSN pals with a big chunk of the stimulus money.; 2/12/10, 8:33 PM
traditionalguy said...: Social class is not a good reason to pick a leader. Leaders are the sine qua non of a group's success. Don't leave the ballot box without one The USA needs a leader that will do the job. These poll responders are not very smart.; 2/12/10, 8:35 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: Irene:

The poll is worse than 34%...the story also claimed "while 55 percent said they had heard little or nothing about it".; 2/12/10, 8:35 PM
The Drill SGT said...: and the fact that 56 percent of Americans in the poll want a smaller government; 2/12/10, 8:43 PM
SteveR said...: The fact that a generic republican is in a statistical dead heat with Obama is bad news for the president. Basically half the people are saying anybody but Obama.; 2/12/10, 8:44 PM
Kev said...: (the other kev)

America's Pravda

Whether I agree with that or not, the spin in the article reminds me of the classic Pravda headline about the two-man race:

"Soviet runner almost wins, American finishes next to last."; 2/12/10, 8:45 PM
Irene said...: @AJ Lynch, WOW!!

I was so agitated by that thirty-four percent figure, that I missed that Whopper!!; 2/12/10, 8:47 PM
Alex said...: I despise when the NY Times tells me what I think, just as I despite it when those Rightist fucktards at National Review do it too.

SO Ny Times gets no name-calling, the NR are fucktards. And that makes you a motherfucking uber-fucktard. Buh-bye.; 2/12/10, 8:48 PM
Anonymous said...: @Alex-

Dude, I already threw out a "fucking" at the NY Times in the paragraph above the one you quote. I am a perfectly fair and just profanist.; 2/12/10, 8:56 PM
Steve M. Galbraith said...: I despise when the NY Times tells me what I think, just as I despite it when those Rightist fucktards at National Review do it too.

One of these items is not like the other.

Well, not supposed to be like the other that is.; 2/12/10, 9:01 PM
avwh said...: "...Americans blame former President George W. Bush, Wall Street and Congress much more than they do Mr. Obama for the nation’s economic problems and the budget deficit, the poll found."

Really insightful, in light of 89% of the respondents knowing little or nothing about the TEA Party movement (the 89% are all loyal readers of Pravda, no doubt).

Of course, this crowd also lowers the bar for the first AA POTUS, so it has to be Bush's fault, or Congress, or Wall Street, it COULDN'T be that the messiah is a fake.; 2/12/10, 9:02 PM
Bruce Hayden said...: Keep in mind that this was a sample of adults. Not just registered voters, and not just likely voters. Only 85% voted last time around. This poll tends a bit to the left, as do any that don't poll just likely voters. At least they didn't grossly oversample Democrats, as they typically do with this series of polls. Also, look at the CNN/Fox ratio. And, no surprise here that a lot of those polled got their news from the broadcast news stations.

What was interesting to me though was that while Obama had pretty much a 50/50 approval rating, his policies suffered negatively. Some very much so. He was much more popular than his policies were. And, I wasn't surprised about the prevailing view in this poll that it was all Bush's fault, given the leanings of the polling.

Also, how can so many people be so ignorant about the Tea Party movement?; 2/12/10, 9:07 PM
Wince said...: This NYT headline reminds me of the trite riposte "It's better than a swift kick in the head."

Or the balls, if we want to stay on "today's" topic.; 2/12/10, 9:08 PM
Revenant said...: "Poll Finds Edge for Obama Over G.O.P. Among the Public."

Interesting (if predictable) spin, but the actual poll results are a little more interesting than that.; 2/12/10, 9:08 PM
avwh said...: "Also, how can so many people be so ignorant about the Tea Party movement?"

Easy, when:
1) Pravda and their MSM cohorts mostly ignored the movement as "fringe" when it started;
2) then the MSM ridicules it when it gets too big to ignore;
3) and these are left-leaning, loyal Pravda-reading folks, so they do what the NYT tells them to.; 2/12/10, 9:11 PM
Joe M. said...: ... but I wonder how the Democrats fare?; 2/12/10, 9:23 PM
Jim said...: In other news, Pauline Kael was quoted as saying "Tea Party who? Nobody I know has heard of them."; 2/12/10, 9:40 PM
narciso said...: Bruce did provide the main point, they sample adults, then they overweigh the Democrats, so you end up with a more liberal spread. And more often then not, a sample that is heavy on the MSNBC and the Daily Show demographic.; 2/12/10, 9:45 PM
Mark said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/12/10, 9:50 PM
Mark said...: I'm wondering how many extra points Obama gets now from people infatuated with the idea of the first black President who now can't quite accept that he is not only a black President, but a lousy one.

The fact that he's black is the one positive that he can't screw up, unless he leaves Michelle for Brittany Spears (or Rielle Hunter...); 2/12/10, 9:52 PM
Penny said...: It took FIVE people at the NYT's to "report" the results of their poll?

Maybe one to "report" and the other four went in search of two republicans willing to be quoted saying negative things about their party?; 2/12/10, 9:53 PM
lucid said...: The Times's 4th quarter earnings and revenue results indicate that we may not have them to kick around much longer. It appears to me to be less and less of a loss. Increasingly, they sepcialize in Upper West Side Groupthink.; 2/12/10, 10:01 PM
Anonymous said...: I'm wondering how many extra points Obama gets now from people infatuated with the idea of the first black President who now can't quite accept that he is not only a black President, but a lousy one.

Yes, it is an historic tragedy that the first black POTUS will be such a failure--also a tragedy because his election has re-welded black Americans to the Democrat party and its failed statism for another generation.

In fact, if I'd known how far and how fast Obama was going to fall, I would have better enjoyed the pomp and historic nature of last year's transition.; 2/12/10, 10:05 PM
Anonymous said...: You will also note that the NY Times didn't report the percentage of people who support Sarah Palin for Emperor. Obviously they are afraid of making that result known.; 2/12/10, 10:05 PM
Unknown said...: When I looked at the findings (top couple of paragraphs), I wanted to know what the sample was.

Apparently, they only asked people who are still wondering where the Pony Express is with their mail.; 2/12/10, 10:06 PM
Big Mike said...: The fact that a generic republican is in a statistical dead heat with Obama is bad news for the president. Basically half the people are saying anybody but Obama.

And there's still three years to go!

By November 2012 the people will be ready to vote for a squished garden slug over Barack Obama.

But that's because we're all RACISTS!!!; 2/12/10, 10:12 PM
Irene said...: Maybe they hired ACORN to conduct the poll.; 2/12/10, 10:32 PM
Peter V. Bella said...: Doug Wilder compared him to Jimmy Carter this week. He claims that if Obama keeps doing the same things with the same people, he will go down in history like Carter, one of the worst Presidents ever. Some are comparing him to Buchanan.

As to the NYT, no sane, normal person would believe any poll they conducted, sponsored, paid for, or commissioned.

Is it any wonder they are going bankrupt? Is it any wonder their advertising rates are down?; 2/12/10, 11:13 PM
Unknown said...: Anyone notice during the Olympic opening ceremonies that Biden was wearing a Canada/U.S. flag pin of the same style that got Palin in trouble on these pages?; 2/12/10, 11:19 PM
jayne_cobb said...: Damn I miss cross country. The unofficial slogan for all teams was:

XC, more fun than a sharp stick in the eye.; 2/12/10, 11:55 PM
Revenant said...: Interestingly, the NYT apparently counts it as a benefit for Obama that relatively few people "blame" him for blocking the health care bill; most "blame" him and Congress collectively, and of those who identify only a single entity for "blame", Republicans in Congress are seen as the primary culprit.

That's the word the NYT uses in their analysis -- "blame".

Which goes to show how much of a Democratic echo chamber the NYT is. The majority of Americans are glad the bill failed. They want health care reform, yes. But they explicitly do NOT want the health care reform Obama and the Democrats cooked up this time around.

So why the word "blame"? That wasn't the way the poll phrased it; that's NYT analysis. But if Americans generally dislike the bill (which they do), and are more likely to identify Republicans as the reason it didn't pass (which, according to this poll, they are)... isn't that likely a GOOD thing for Republicans?

"Blame"? More likely "give credit to". :); 2/13/10, 12:32 AM
victoria said...: You know I hate to tell you all but, not everyone in American is as fascinated by the teabaggers as some of you are. There are many who dismiss it as a fringie part of the Republican Party. And there are many who think nothing of Sarah Palin.

Vicki from Pasadena; 2/13/10, 12:50 AM
victoria said...: Yes, and i called them teabaggers deliberately.

Vicki; 2/13/10, 12:51 AM
Anonymous said...: Sarah Palin for Emperor.

You know, Julius, edven if this line were as amusing as you think it is, it would have worn out its welcome about five times over by now.; 2/13/10, 6:27 AM
AllenS said...: Julius Ray Hoffman for VILLAGE IDIOT!; 2/13/10, 6:34 AM
mrs whatsit said...: Yes, Vickie, we know you did. We're just awestruck by your creativity and penetrating wit.

wv: puddlers. Now THAT would have been an original insult. Why those dopey puddlers. Why don't they put down their signs and perceive the brilliance of the President and Vickie?; 2/13/10, 7:22 AM
Fen said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 2/13/10, 9:56 AM
Fen said...: Yes, and i called them teabaggers deliberately.

Vicki

Why? You do realize that it makes you look like an idiot, not worth anyone's time to read.

Just curious why your hatred would be so strong as to allow it to undercut yourself.; 2/13/10, 9:57 AM
Anonymous said...: Yes, and i called them teabaggers deliberately.

And here I thought your keyboard just autofilled it for you. Fascinating.

Funny thing is, part of the criticism of this poll is the quality of the respondents. So many had never heard of the Tea Party movement--where do they find these people?

Then you come along and show us just how low the bar was set and yet the respondents still couldn't clear it.; 2/13/10, 11:56 AM
LA_Bob said...: Yes, and i called them teabaggers deliberately.

Vicki

Considering this editorial by Glenn Reynolds I guess that makes Barack Obama the "Teabagger in Chief"; 2/13/10, 1:24 PM
Penny said...: Would you be surprised if Obama was teabagger in chief, dennisr2?; 2/13/10, 10:06 PM