November 28, 2009

At the Faithful Dog Café....


... you can keep up the conversation while M and I do I-90 miles.

UPDATE: Home, at 3 a.m.  We drove about 980 miles, nearly all on Route 90. We'd turned the heat off for the long weekend, and it was down to 48° indoors. Bracing!


edutcher said...

Hope you had a good trip, lousy architecture notwithstanding.

As I said in another post, if you don't have a lot of people coming over for turkey, traveling and seeing what a great country we've got is a great, and very American, way of spending Thanksgiving.

No fights if you get lost on the way back, you two :)

Michael Hasenstab said...

If I had an extra day on that trip I'd spend it in Chicago. I love Chicago (except for the pols). It's one of the most beautiful cities in America.

If I had an extra two days on that trip, I'd go north through Michigan and cross into the UP at the Mackinac bridge. Then across the UP to US 51, then south to Madison. I travel to the UP on my motorcycle every summer, and sometimes by car during winter. It's a vast and beautiful place.

If I had an extra three days on that trip, I'd take the northern route, along the north shore of Lake Superior, then through Thunder Bay and south along Superior's western shore in Minnesota, being sure to spend a night in Grand Marais, MN. Then I'd head south on the Great River Road, all the way to Prairie Du Chien, and finally east toward Madison.

If I had time.

reader_iam said...

It's nice you were able to travel to be with family at Thanksgiving. Safe and smooth travels to you! We'll shortly be on the road, too, heading in the same basic direction and even weirdly parallel, sorta (you're starting earlier; however, we're starting well west), but we'll be on further-south routes.

Ann Althouse said...

Stopping along I-90, I'm able to get "Thruway" wireless access in the parking lot as Meade goes in for coffee.

The trip to Albany was to visit family for Thanksgiving. If it was just a weekend trip to go somewhere, Chicago would have been a more sensible distance with better things to do and see. But family live where they live, and in this case, it was Albany.

traditionalguy said...

The idea of Grandmother Althouse is an amazing vision. How many grandchildren are read by their grandmother from to from Bob Dylan lyrics? When the day comes, the little girl will have her own Auntie Mame stories to tell someday. Great weekend so far in a cooling Globe. It's too cold for golf in North Florida. We will catch Ga/Ga Tech tonight and read more books.

kentuckyliz said...

I am sitting in the living room of my sister's farmhouse in Iowa, and their dog Winston is barking outside. Somewhere up the road there was a gate or fence failure and cows are out wandering. So the farm family is out rounding up cows and getting everything back under control. I'm still in my robe because it's vacation dammit. We had a late brekkers of wafcakes/panfles...and I'm about to hit the shower.

Northeast Iowa is beautiful. I love it here, and I love the people in this town...and Lord willing if I live long enough to retire, I shall retire to Paradise. (The name of this valley is Paradise Valley. My sister lives in Upper Paradise.)

reader_iam said...

That area is pretty, kentuckyliz. We enjoy driving up there from where we live in Iowa, not far away but south.

miller said...

I'm not familiar with NE Iowa. Spent some time in SE Iowa. How are the two different?

Iowa in the summer - heck, the midwest in the summer - hecky-heck, midwest summer or winter - has some extreme temperatures.

I much prefer the West Coast. Might be nice to retire in Grayland or Tokeland on the Washington Coast. And just use the Internet to see pictures of the sun.

Bissage said...


peter hoh said...

Safe travels to all.

And I'll have to second Michael's UP recommendation.

I have yet to circumnavigate Superior, but it's on my list.

Irene said...
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Irene said...

Dogs are faithful. Tigers? Maybe not so much.

ricpic said...

The Cleveland Museum of Art is a truly world class museum. Just off I - 90, if you wanna breakup the trip for a couple of hours.

Deborah said...

We will catch Ga/Ga Tech tonight and read more books.

Go Tech!

John Lynch said...

Too bad about Dogmeat.

Patrick said...

Hi Ann,

Hope your thanksgiving was nice. Mine was, ate like a hog. *snort*

Hope everything with you and M is well..

Stay safe,


Titus said...

Weekend jaunt options are endless for me. All within a couple of hours.

The Berkshires, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, The Cape, Newport, Northampton, Williamsburg.

New England is so very fab.

All very fab and dining options are to die for.

And no matter where you go in New England, even in the backwoods you can find another fag couple at a cute and expensive cafe. That is so very comforting. Not that we would acknowledge the other fag couple, it is just good to know they are around.

Thank you.

Titus said...

I love Macky Island. So cute.

I do prefer the Canada side though, natch.

Chip Ahoy said...

That post down there ↓ was very harsh and critical and opinionated, and spot on, and that's why we love you.

I have made a new commitment. No more ordinary breakfasts for me. Henceforth I abjure them. Excoriate and scorn them. Have a look, if you care to, at my third in a series on new American breakfasts, mixed vegetables and seafood with sauce.

Tyrone Slothrop said...

We went over the river and through the woods to grandmother's house. By river I mean a usually dry wash known as San Juan Creek and by woods I mean stands of live oak and sycamores that do for woods in this arid place. The sycamores have changed color giving us a pale simulacrum of eastern deciduous forests. Still, it was beautiful. And no black ice.

wv-- plate: are they supposed to use real words?

Balfegor said...

I'm travelling myself. Virgin America has free wifi at the moment, and I am taking full advantage. I've got a little Samsung netbook with a battery that last ~10 hours, so it should last me the full duration of the flight. Very nice service. I highly recommend it.

(Although they did make me check my bag, at the gate, even though there was plenty of space of the bags. Gah! Still nicer than United or American, though -- those two are absolutely the worst airlines I've ever flown.)

ricpic said...

Re: Titus's "fab" New England: Vermont is now so tilted to aging hippies and mahvelous gays that the school districts are all consolidating. Fewer and fewer kids. No future but it's so very fab.

Lem said...

I have always been queasy about movies - films doc - that that have anything with a certain subjects that we all know about from the news..

But at the same time i tell my friends if they see anything i might be interested in ... to do whatever they can to convince me to watch it.

Hard Candy (2005).. I will only say that I'm watching the film again away from the presence of my friend.
I found myself acting up at times and I missed some of the dialogue.

I thought I should react a certain way at certain times and then I would not.

Hopefully you will have some balls and watch the movie for yourselves.

You will not be disappointed..

I was one of the very few here to argue for the Bush enhanced interrogations techniques.. do we have the balls?

Maybe we do. I hope we still do.

As you must have gathered by now.. I liked the film.. I did very much!

Meade said...

Scooting along I90 leaving NY entering PA with Mrs behind the wheel, she has Grateful Dead cranked up -- Fire on the Mountain -- cute venerable hippie that Mrs M. We are gazing upon a fabulous sunset. Fabulous, I say! Traffic flowing, very few big trucks. Home awaits us.

Michael Hasenstab said...

@Meade - May I ask which brand of radar detector you are using on this trip?

I am a happy and ticket-free Valentine One user for the past eight years.

Don't leave the garage without it.

peter hoh said...

We used to drive that stretch fairly regularly. At some point, we developed the idea that we should try to drive across one of those states nonstop. No real reason -- just for fun. The easy one, of course, was Indiana. Ohio was a bit more of a challenge, but possible if we scheduled the gas right. We never bothered trying to cross Pennsylvania nonstop.

Lem said...

I want to see .. maybe another video of my good friend Meade driving as thought he were driving in NY state ;)

nowhatimean? nowhatimean? wink wink nod nod .

I just want to be reassured... nothing against you Meade.. as you know you are my pal. my compadre.

Chip Ahoy said...

I'm doing an experiment cultivating sourdough culture off the wheat grain directly, then raising the culture on a strict diet of that same grain without any refined wheat to contaminate the culture. I started it yesterday, and I intend to demonstrate the technique right through to baking loaves with it. Would you care to see how the demonstration is going so far?

Lem said...

dont get me wrong..

I think Meade is a good driver.. i just want to see how he does against Muhamad and Lienob in Manhattan ..

You mi amigo Meade are not just going to go merrily plowing the road as thou you are the only one there.

you are going tot have to fight for every inch..

I'll let your wife fill you in ;)

rhhardin said...

Pennsylvania is an extremely long state that pretty much always got in the way, back when I commuted between Ohio and NJ. When you hit Ohio or NJ you felt you were finally getting somewhere.

The I-90 piece of Pennsylvania however is not bad.

I always stopped on the turnpike at Summerset rest area going East, and the dog and I climbed the hill to the west a few times, by the windshield wiper plant that always had people huddled outside in the snow smoking.

Just short of New Stanton westbound was a Pittsburgh paint test site that was a large field good for exercise going the other way.

Settling into a routine is everything, with Pennsylvania.

Lem said...

oh wait, i was assuming that you guys were coming down.. down were the New Yorkers live ;)

maybe not.. maybe yes .. still I want to see a video of Meade driving .. like a maniac ;)

Titus said...

Vermont is really a second home state for many.

Lots of cute cabins, barns converted, ski condos, etc.

Many amazing dining options as well. Organic and expensive, natch.

And what can one say about the Green Mountains that hasn't already been said and written about.

Oh and cover bridges. I can't get enough of the covered bridges. So cute.

I have found that oral can make a long drive go by fast.

Lem said...

Titus not for nothing.. but that.. i dont want to be indelicate.. as you know we love you and bla bla bla ..

(this is highly irregular)

ever since you told us you got married you been... you been a little boring.. just a noticeably tiny bit.. I think as your fans we should able to be frank with you.

its probably not you..

Ron said...

You guys coming to visit? That's sweet!

Alcuria said...

Try a broadband wireless card for car blogging. Verizon works great - was able to check e-mail as a friend drove. And the price is reasonable.

Oh, I just saw you go by GCC in Batavia!

Lem said...

Have Gays been married long enough were we can start having the divorce horror stories? on the papers.. studies.. gay divorce court?

Or is Gay marriage about teaching people how to stay together?

Say amen somebody!

wv - angicsh - phony divorce anguish.

Lem said...

I'm having my Guinness extra stout..

i think i should be frank.. just dont call me frank.. I'm still Lem .. for now.

Lem said...

I've been offered a job as a stud..

I may have to travel and change my identity to protect my family.

Thats why I said what I said.

Lem said...

I was endowed by my creator..

But there always been a contention about my French half and my Spanish half so I have tried as best I could to learn French so i could get in touch .. maybe..

no can do ramama mama.

i dont think even the french speak French. its all a con.

Lem said...

how in the world can so few speak so fowlish as the language of the tiny principate of France?

If we invade.. we will do them a great favor!

they will finally speak english as they should have centuries ago.

wv - rencin - we will get it done this time ;)

Lem said...

We need to think outside the box!

Bold thinking ;)

anybody with me?

Lem said...

Chip.. just think all that French cooking.. it will be all yours. it will not be foreing any more!

we just need to convince the English that it is in their interest to take over France..

i think we can work something out.

Lem said...

I've been told on good authority that French women are very very sexsual.

We will add their biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Their tiny culture will adapt to service us.

Resistance is futile.

Lem said...

For every one French page on the web we will put up 20 in English. (not including the french into English translations on their tiny little page)

They shall know the truth .. in English!

Lem said...

We are going to get to rename mountains and whole towns after Washington and Lincoln again.. I think Arthur B. Hayes should get somthing.

it going to be a blast!

wv - sutten - a way of sneaking up and getting cough.

Lem said...

good god it was Rutherford B. Hayes.. not Arthur.

sorry mr president.

i think that my sign to make my exit.

see you guys ;)

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Lem said...

omg .. this GF ^ posted the same efing post the other day..

wath does this guy think?

word for word?


Lem said...

I'm not a big football fan but if anybody asks .. I'm a patriot.

A new Englnd Patriot..

oh shit.

France will become New England..

why the hell not!

LonewackoDotCom said...

Rather than bothering with the drunken ramblings of the tea partier, here's something to discuss.

1. The PacIslander part isn't a "stereotype", it's just a historical association.

2. The black stereotype is far, far, far more rare and outre nowadays than the white stereotype; the latter is a core part of current "liberalism".

3. The Hisp. stereotype is one brought on themselves by not turning out groups like the National Council of La Raza. It's not a stereotype if it's endemic.

Andy said...

"venerable hippie'

Yeah right.

Hippies were so well-known for their dyed blonde hair and their right-wing politics.

Lem said...

Its no big secret we have spent our way out of supremacy..

I say we shoot and bomb our way back in.

it makes perfect sense.. if you thinkabout it.

just because thats how it was done in the olden days does not mean we can not do it again.

former law student said...

I'm not familiar with NE Iowa. Spent some time in SE Iowa.

NE Iowa has the National Farm Toy Museum, while SE Iowa has the Amana Colonies.

Actually, I've only spent time in the Dubuque-Waterloo-Iowa City-Davenport rectangle. Remember when all grocers' coupons were sent to A.C. Nielsen in Newton Ia? There's an ethanol factory nearby, formerly a liquor distillery. Farmers want us to run our cars on whiskey, a renewable resource.

Lem said...

I have heard more about La Raza from Fox News and from militants like LDC than i have from them - some kind of menace - La Raza themselves.

Why do we proselytize for the other side all time?

former law student said...

Its no big secret we have spent our way out of supremacy..
just because thats how it was done in the olden days does not mean we can not do it again.

We are Yankees, and our slogan from the olden days was

Use it up
Wear it out
Make it do
Or do without

We Americans were never meant to waste money on cheap gimcracks and gewgaws. Do your shopping at Goodwill or the Sally. At least you can find American-made products there.

Except for shoes. Don't buy used shoes full of other people's foot sweat.

Lem said...

Use it up
Wear it out
Make it do
Or do without

such talk .. the day after ;)

reader_iam said...

Shy 20 miles of Crawfordsville, Indiana. Another, oh, 4 or so hours, at his time of night ; ), 'til home. Ohio just felt like it d-r-a-g-g-e-d today; usually I don't mind it.

reader_iam said...

It's 10:22 EST in Indiana & we just passed crews on both sides of I -74 busily harvesting corn. Sure had some weird seasons & seasonal climate this year.

MadisonMan said...

I am sad that the house painted horizontal stripes of different colors near Toledo is no longer there -- at least, I've not seen it since the 80s. But I don't drive the Wisconsin->Pennsylvania route so much.

Enjoy your 154-mile drive through Indiana. Or it is 157?

MadisonMan said...

reader, my wife's family's farm near Chambana lost money on corn this year. I think it was only 40 bu / acre. If soybeans hadn't done well, it would have been a very bad year.

Fertlilizer was up ~350% this year!

Lem said...

Sure had some weird seasons & seasonal climate this year..

its funny you should mention that reader.. have you heard ;)

Lem said...

I have always (and of course now everyone else is also) been skeptical as to how far anthropogenic warming went..

But I had no idea that our impact, over time, could be so negligible so as to cause a panic of the kind that makes rational people (people of science) do foolish things.

This news, the truth, could not have been revealed any better!

reader_iam said...

If we're recalling correctly, the Corps of Engineer agreed to keep the lock-and-dam system open on the Mississippi running later this year due to later harvests & need to bring in as much of crops/salvage season for farmers at least somewhat. I suspect the harvest was going on tonight to take advantage of dry interlude and still relatvely mild temps.

LonewackoDotCom said...

OK, here's another question. I believe that the word used in the title of this and in this clip is the most accurate and succinct way to summarize the tea partiers. Frankly, if I felt OK using that word I'd call the "partiers" that word all day long. However, I don't like using that word because I don't want to degrade those who have actual mental disabilities. Is there a word for those who aren't too bright, who make it worse by being willfully stupid (to the extent that it isn't beyond their control), and who - at the same time - have an incredible 'tude? If so, what is that word?

Lem said...

El tabaco es fuerte .. pero hay que fumarlo.

No no no lo botes, no puedes botarlo

un merengue..

Lem said...

its called a Dictionary LDC..

good luck with that ;)

I have to go.

reader_iam said...

More combines in fields in the Danville area ...

reader_iam said...

Whoop-ti-do! The time on my iPhone just *miraculously* flipped back an hour. Well, hello, Illinois.

reader_iam said...

20 miles from Ubana-Champaign (driving from the East, that's how the signs read, though I always refer to them in the reverse order, of course), yet more combines.

Rain in the forecast followed by colder temps? (Been away.)

And when did a morph into the late-November Nighttime Harvest Reporter, anyhow?

Clearly bored & booklight burned out...

Jen said...

There is no meaner city than the one of big shoulders.

Eli Blake said...

OK, I'm going to challenge all of you Althouse commenters, because in the immortal words of Rickey Ricardo, I think you've got some 'splainin' to do.

Remember this post (just about ten days ago) when Obama came home from China without an explicitly public list of concessions from the Chinese leaders on it.

Here are some of your comments then:

Well no kidding, all he got was a crummy t-shirt that has him looking like Chairman Mao. (Fred4Pres)

What a hoot. The Chinese were 10 times smarter than we are. (traditionalguy)

I still can't believe he had the robin's eggs to call himself "America’s first Pacific president." (Irene)

. On the internet, they're calling him "Obama-tan"... like he's a mascot character or something. (Balfegor)

Still, they tried to help him a whole lot in that article. It's actually very amusing. How embarrassing on all counts for the poor NYT. (Darcy)

Wen Jiabao: You throw Taiwan under bus, we forgive debt. Deal?

Barack Obama: Deal.

Grim for Democrats.

The slack and missing gears in the machine are showing up.

"The NYT calls the trip "grim", so that's an Obama stumble."

Yes, because if the NYT calls it "grim," then it must be quite abysmal. I assume kid gloves.
(Ann Althouse)

OK, so let's wait about a week later. As we know, the Chinese are all about appearances, they weren't going to look like they caved or gave any concessions to Obama.

Now here is what has happened in the past 72 hours on two issues that were high on the agenda:

China unilaterally announces a plan to slow growth in carbon emissions under which by 2020 they will be emitting up to 45% less CO2 than they would be without taking this action.

Because of robust projected growth in the Chinese economy the overall emissions will still increase, but by far less than they would have. China in the past has claimed that they are a 'developing' nation and therefore should be exempt from any carbon emissions standards. During the Bush administration the issue of carbon emissions wasn't even on the agenda during these kinds of meetings but the timing of this announcement within a week after Obama left China makes it pretty obvious that he scored a success on the topic of carbon emissions, even though his hosts waited for a week to announce it so it wouldn't look like a concession.

But that was overshadowed less than 24 hours later by an even more significant change from China. They joined with the rest of the members of the U.N. security council and voted to back tough language on the Iranian nuclear program.

Bush tried to get the Chinese to get tougher on Iran for years without success, as the Chinese have no particular quarrel with Iran and prefer to just keep doing business with them.

Yes, folks, you (and the NYT and some other media outlets) jumped to an obvious (and wrong) conclusion that because Obama didn't leave China waving a Neville Chamberlain-like piece of paper with concessions on it, that the trip was a failure and he didn't get anything.

He got two big wins (unless you are going to stand there and tell me that the Chinese are suddenly in the business of doing things because 'it's the right thing to do.') Yeah, right.

Sort of like conservatives who claim that the stimulus is a failure which has not saved any jobs.

If Obama baked a pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving, conservatives would be the ones who would open the oven thirty seconds after he put it in the oven and claim that the pie had failed to bake.

reader_iam said...

You know, the chicken bouillon from the vending machine at the rest stop near Morton, IL, isn't bad. Could be just cuz it's stomach-settling, though.

Lem said...

A 'friend' and his girl I had back just left my domicile.

He asked to use my computer at some point - witch was duly shut off - as there were live people in and about my domicile.

I said, sure.. go ahead. he proceeds, to turn it on
I'm left talking to his girl while we are all in my domicile. its a cocoon.

I had beers in the fridge - my Guinness that it was a surprise to my friend that i quickly explained i only have (drink) while in and about my domicile.

I'm talking to his girl about a subject she knows nothing about aliens UFOS.. on purpose so i can keep tabs of the computer i keep at my domicile.

At some point i see my 'friend', he installs w/o hasitation, permission, nor prudence something called Yahoo onto my computer while at my domicile.

I'm docile. I keep my cool. i just dont want to be made a fool while looking at the flat screen.. just sitting there, solid state, while at my domicile.

I kept my trap shut, he chat on a Yahoo chat, my newly yahoo friend, while he and I and his girl sat at my domicile.

they just left.. i just sat AGAIN and thought I think i can work something out.. I might as well do so while i sit at my domicile.

yanking that shit off my computer has not been easy!

Lem said...

This ^ really happened tonight.

I thought i make something out of it.

Lem said...

If Obama baked a pumpkin pie for Thanksgiving, conservatives would be the ones who would open the oven thirty seconds after he put it in the oven and claim that the pie had failed to bake.

Thanks for nailing it.

If Obama does and When Obama does.. its a suspense ;)

reader_iam said...

We arrived home just before 2 a.m. Central, right around 790 miles, having left about 1:40 p.m. Eastern (there was a departure delay due to something someone needed at the last minute). My son can be a freakin' trouper, which he has been in a sustained fashion for a fortnight now. Which is good; he'll likely have opportunity to strengthen those skills again soon.


Given the mileage, as it turns out, we were indeed traveling in an oddly parallel fashion, for at least part of the way today, A+M. Cracked me up this morning, cracking me up even more. Which I need & appreciate. Thanks!


Glad you made it back, safe and sound.

bearbee said...

Faithful "Dogs"

LoafingOaf said...
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LoafingOaf said...

Earlier this month, Althouse said:

As for my assignment, I'll look at a couple more items from Sullivan's list tonight when I have some extra time. I'm not inclined to "debunk" them. I'm not Palin's defender. I will look at the items and say what I think, with an eye toward Sullivan's assertion: whether we are dealing with a person who is not just the usual politico but clinically delusional.

Did I miss the post from after she looked at more of the items and told us what she thought??

Your homework is overdue, Professor!

LoafingOaf said...

BTW, when Althouse said this: I'm not inclined to "debunk" them. I'm not Palin's defender.

The translation is: I know I probably can't debunk them.

And when she said this: I will look at the items and say what I think

The translation is: But I'm gonna try and spin them and play some lawyer tricks on them.

But when she said this: I'll look at a couple more items from Sullivan's list tonight...and say what I think....

And then we never heard from her again about that, it meant: I looked at a couple more items and I could do nothing with them to make Andrew Sullivan look bad, so I'm gonna hope everyone forgets I promised to do this.


LoafingOaf said...

We could've had Usama bin Laden at Tora Bora: Osama bin Laden was unquestionably within reach of U.S. troops in the mountains of Tora Bora when American military leaders made the crucial and costly decision not to pursue the terrorist leader with massive force, a Senate report says.

The report asserts that the failure to kill or capture bin Laden at his most vulnerable in December 2001 has had lasting consequences beyond the fate of one man.

Way to go, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gen. Franks!

The report states categorically that bin Laden was hiding in Tora Bora when the U.S. had the means to mount a rapid assault with several thousand troops at least. It says that a review of existing literature, unclassified government records and interviews with central participants "removes any lingering doubts and makes it clear that Osama bin Laden was within our grasp at Tora Bora."

Fewer than 100 U.S. commandos
On or about Dec. 16, 2001, bin Laden and bodyguards "walked unmolested out of Tora Bora and disappeared into Pakistan's unregulated tribal area," where he is still believed to be based, the report says.

It sure did look like we were gonna get bin Laden at Tora Bora. But our leaders - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gen. Franks - let him go!!

Shame on them! Total incompetence!

LoafingOaf said...

Or, did they let bin Laden go on purpose? Hmmm...

AlphaLiberal said...

Here's another report on how Bush and Cheney allowed Obama to escape.

Bush and Cheney allowed this mass murderer to go free. Why, I don't know. But this guy killed thousands of Americans and others, they had him within their grasp and they let him go.

Republicans will close ranks to defend Bush and Cheney. In doing so, they show us that they have more loyalty to their party than their country.

But maybe some conservative will criticize Bush - Cheney over this. I'm not holding my breath.

AlphaLiberal said...

"The vast array of American military power, from sniper teams to the most mobile divisions of the Marine Corps and the Army, was kept on the sidelines," the report said. .

The team that allowed this to happen should hide from the public debate in disgrace.

Paul Zrimsek said...

Armchair General Kerry reporting for duty!

Big Mike said...

@Alpha, at that point they had nothing they could hold him on except maybe that Rezko thing.

Oh! You meant Osama. Yeah, I get the two of them confused, too. Easy mistake to make.

The report, if NPR and MSNBC have quoted it accurately is simply wrong. The problem was three-fold: General Franks chose to station himself at CENTCOM HQ in Tampa, presumably because the golfing and water skiing were better than in Afghanistan; Rumsfeld didnt' make him relocate to the theater; and poor coordination between the Special Forces troops in Tora Bora and Franks caused the latter to not have a blocking force in place between the mountain range and Pakistan.

If you're going to blame the guys at the top then surely you won't mind if we blame everything that has gone wrong this past year, and in the next three on Osama, I mean Obama>

AllenS said...
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AllenS said...

I dare say, are those chickenhawks that I hear in the background?

Pogo said...

"AlphaLiberal said...

Here's another report on how Bush and Cheney allowed Obama to escape.

Good Lord!

And now Obama has taken over car companies, given oodles of cash to Wall Street cronies, and is poised on imposing a socialist healthcare system.

Damn that Bush!

Titus said...

I am with Pigo on this one.

Leave Bush and Cheney alone.

If you want to spread your libtard commie lies go on a democrat website.

We are republicans here. The patriotic ones. We don't care for your bullshit here.

Titus said...

Cant you get any better libtard trolls here?

They need to learn how to play tough with the big boys.

Ann Althouse said...

LoafingOaf said..."The translation is: I know I probably can't debunk them.... YOUR HOMEWORK IS OVERDUE, PROFESSOR!"

Oh, bullshit. The professor doesn't get homework. The fact is, I'm not interested enough to do this work, and my blog is run on interestingness. My failure to get to more items on Sullivan's lackluster list is based on the fact that I have a lot of better things to do. The past 6 days, I've been traveling and spending holiday time with my family.