Yes. You guessed it. I am now in possession of "Going Rogue," by Sarah Palin. It has lots of pictures. Including one of Todd Palin with duct tape on his face to protect against frost bite.
Re husbands, Meade bought the book for me at Borders. Re faces, I was not keen to show mine in Madison purchasing a right-wing book.
November 17, 2009
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 288 of 288Beth is, of course, absolutely right about the proper response to a duct tape troll. Nonetheless, I couldn't resist Googling "duct tape frostbite". One of the first of the thousands of hits was this article, from last winter, about the widespread use of duct tape in Iron Dog racing. Apparently, Jeremy, yes they do opt for duct tape as protection for the elements when they line up for cold-weather races -- and OMG, they call them snow machines, too!
http://www.adn.com/irondog/story/679598.html
"You wouldn't think with all the high tech of the snowmachines these days, that the boys would have to put on duct tape,'' said second-year racer Vernon Albert of Ruby. "But they do."
When the 26th Iron Dog begins at 11 a.m. Sunday on Big Lake, expect to see a pack of silver-faced Zorros roar off the starting lines in pairs even if the National Weather Service is forecasting kinder weather this year.
Iron Dog 2008 began in brutal minus-30 temperatures. Temperatures between zero and the teens are predicted this time, warm enough that racers could get by without taping up. But most will do so anyway.
"In my experience, it has a huge effect," said two-time champion Evan Booth of Nome, who is sitting out this year's race.
Booth experiences plenty of chilly winds howling off the Bering Sea each winter. "It definitely prevents frostbite, whether it's duct tape or medical tape," he said.
I think this thread proves once and for all that Jeremy is pulling everyone's chain. This argument has gone beyond absurd.
Someone, (don't remember who, so can't credit it) postulated a while back that Jeremy, ie Gene Olson, is doing a psychological experiment on the comment community here. It's looking more and and more like that could be the case, and Beth's advice sounds pretty good at this point.
Michael - "Jeremy: OK, I'll bite. What is the "proper gear" that you refer to and which presumably you are familiar with?"
Well, if you visit any of the official sites relating to sled raving or snow machine racing, they recommend the following:
Insulated boots, gloves, woolen hats that cover ears, scarfs that cover areas of the face, underwear, socks, synthetic fabrics that keep perspiration away from the skin, no more dressing in layers, wearing water-resistant base layers, thermal jackets, and of course, staying hydrated."
Haven't run into the duct tape section...but I'm sure if you decide to enter a race, they'll gladly let you deal with the elements using the tape method.
I never engage the poisonous little shitstain of a troll (you know who you are) but I almost died laughing at how the most obnoxious creature on the internet describes himself:
"All around delightful, engaging, educated, personable, fun, funny, romantic, fit, and liberal human being"
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
knox - Just to prove you wrong, I want everyone here to send me all unused pharmaceuticals they have lying around their trailers (especially the fun ones).
I'm doing some testing and need to confirm what I've always suspected.
Just wrap them up in a plain brown box (be sure to duct tape it closed) and send it to Ann.
I'll get in touch when the experiment has run its course or when I need refills.
"And you must be new to this game: I never win any kind of argument or debate here: I'm a liberal...and it's not allowed."
No, Jeremy... you never win because you're never right.
Right now, for everyone to see, you are demanding that we agree that duct tape is not wholly sufficient sub-zero gear.
This is a logical fallacy since no one ever, not once, made the claim that it was.
But your initial claim, that using duct tape is stupid, was proven wrong, so you've got to build up this alternate thing, move the goal posts, so that you can be right.
Would you feel more appreciated if a few of us said, Yes, Jeremy, going out in sub-zero weather in nothing but duct tape would be a stupid thing to do?
Paul - I didn't write that. My many friends got together and threw it together. (I'm way too modest.)
But thanks anyway, I appreciate the props and I certainly love it when people take a look at my handsome profile.
Synova "No, Jeremy... you never win because you're never right."
And there you have it.
What took so long?
Duct tape got your tongue?
I've been following the Great Duct Tape Controversy with interest.
I'm with Marty and Michael. I believe Marty said:
"Sometimes it's the low tech solutions that work the best."
I don't know a darn thing about subzero snowmobile marathons. Back when I was still dancing, I learned pretty quick to give up on fancy, specialized foot-care devices and just plain wrap my toes in heavy tape instead. The tape sealed off vulnerable pressure points and provided "slip" inside the shoe where friction would cause a blister. Cheap, quick and effective.
Now, if I were walking around in ordinary street shoes that pinched, would I wrap a toe or two in tape? Of course not. But for protecting your feet during a long, arduous rehearsal, tape just can't be beat.
Just my perspective on the whole "to tape or not to tape" thing.
"...underwear,"
*snicker*
Jeremy needs to quote someone *else* to borrow the authority to suggest that "underwear" keeps you warm.
OMFG... that's why I got such a draft when I went out to milk cows!
LOL!
vw: munpee - The reason for the flap in front.
FLS is often right.
Brazil is sometimes interesting or thoughtful.
Garage has his moments of rightness.
Must not be liberal... any of them...
"Paul - I didn't write that. My many friends got together and threw it together. (I'm way too modest.)
But thanks anyway, I appreciate the props and I certainly love it when people take a look at my handsome profile."
Hahahahahah!! You're KILLING me! Stop please!!
But you sure knew in a heartbeat who the poisonous little shitstain of a troll was referring to, so at least you have a smidgen of self awareness.
Synova said..."OMFG... that's why I got such a draft when I went out to mount the cows!"
I think you need to stop doing that.
P.S. Paul - Blow me, little man.
"FLS is often right."
Often? Really?
"Brazil is sometimes interesting or thoughtful."
For a brainwashed lefty troll, maybe.
Nah.
"Garage has his moments of rightness."
No.
C'mon Paul, even a flaming conservative like yourself would have to agree that I'm occasionally witty, and always charming.
the problem with this >200 post thread is that people will think it was about Palin, when actually it was about the suitability of duct tape for bitterly cold weather wear.
One thing you should never wear in the cold: Cotton.
Polypropylene and fleece is the way to go, and insulated windproof bib overalls under your heavy duty down coat (waterproof cover, natch).
This just in: Lou (God I hate Mexicans...except my wife) Dobbs:
On Princess Sarah - "Would I consider voting for her? Frankly, based on what I have seen, personally, no."
A shot to the wing's nuts...oooooh that hurts.
Why can't we all just get along?
Let's have a duct tape party.
Synova...bring one of your cows along.
And Paul, see if you can stand you long enough to tag along.
"C'mon Paul, even a flaming conservative like yourself would have to agree that I'm occasionally witty, and always charming."
I'm a Western Libertarian, not a flaming conservative, and while I disagree that you are either witty or charming you are occasionally good for a chuckle.
But you have a long way to go to match Mr. Shitstain with his side splitting self description. One needs an enormous natural talent for unwitting buffoonery to achieve such a high water mark.
Jeremy alleges: " I never win any kind of argument or debate here: I'm a liberal...and it's not allowed "
Groan.
The Grue ate my last comment about giggle fits caused by this thread...so adios again.
Oh, Jeremy, don't let the jackboots getcha :-))
Ahhh, Althouse and Michael Medved in the same company.
I was disappointed to hear Michael Medved today going rouge himself, as in criticizing the decision by Palin and others to back Hoffman over DeeDee Scozzafava. Medved even played the clip of Rush and Sarah talking about this. Given that Rush gave Michael Medved his first boost into conservative talk radio (by having Medved guest host his show as a fill in) this is very sad.
Where to begin? I like them all (Medved, Rush and Palin--and of course Althouse). I am not so hard core in my opinions to miss the wisdom of some of the positions Michael Medved takes, but Mike is missing the boat on this issue. Mike is back to saying, well we lost the NY-23 seat. That is true, but the decision that lost the NY-23 seat was when Scozzafava was picked by the local GOP to run for it. Medved's point was had Scozzafava won, Nancy Pelosi's health care bill would have failed. I am not sure that is the case, but that does not justify supporting a "Republican" who supports union card check, may have gone sideways on health care too, and was essentially not a Republican let alone a conservative.
Hoffman, however, was the only chance to win the seat back. And the fact that Scuzzy-Wuzz-She backed Owens (the Democrat) only shows that she was a liar and crypto-democrat from the get.
As you can guess, Michael Medved does not want Sarah Palin to be the GOP nominee. Just like unobjective support for Sarah Palin is nonsense (friends of a potential candidate can be their worse enemy), so is this opposite position by Medved equally wrong. We should not discourage any potential candidate to avoid primaries, this is a battle of ideas and we want more not less in this process.
Medved also thinks Oprah, Newsweek, and the left are trying to promote Sarah (and also unfairly attack her) in an attempt to have her run and (hopefully) win the 2012 GOP nomination so Obama can then summarily defeat her. Medved would rather Sarah just support GOP candidates and raise money for them and run for something other than president.
Well, I think Sarah did support the conservative candidate in NY-23. That was a good thing. Unfortunately the GOP candidate was not a GOP candidate.
As far as the left's motives, Medved is probably correct. Newsweek and Oprah are trying to do that. 2012 is still a long way off and whether or not Sarah Palin will even run, let alone win the nominiation, is at this point not really known. But as the Chinese say, the Dems should be careful for what they wish for.
Paul - "I'm a Western Libertarian."
And you're also a liar.
And if you're so offended by my extremely interesting and funny profile, where's yours?
Chickenshit.
Jeremy if you had bothered to click on the link I had posted about 5 hours ago you would have found out that yes duct tape is used to prevent frostbite in snow machine races. No they don't race just wearing duct tape. They use it below their protective gear so that if any gaps form they don't get frostbite on their face.
"I will maintain that proper gear beats duct tape any day of the week. If someone is using duct tape to prevent frostbite, then they have either lost their protective gear, it's broken, or they have not paid attention to a weather forecast and are trying to Darwinize. It surprises me that anyone would think this a controversial point."
You are only surprised because you either haven't read or don't understand the links put up DBQ and others. These were all links to people who ski and dog sled and the like in this environment and who say that duct tape works well.
You say that you can't see how it is better than "proper equipment" all you want. But that won't change the fact that you don't know what you are talking about. You are talking out of your ass. How many times do we have to link to people who do know what they are talking about before you bother to read a link?
John - "These were all links to people who ski and dog sled and the like in this environment and who say that duct tape works well."
And nobody says it doesn't work..."well," including the party you quote.
He or she says: "I will maintain that proper gear beats duct tape any day of the week. If someone is using duct tape to prevent frostbite, then they have either lost their protective gear, it's broken, or they have not paid attention to a weather forecast and are trying to Darwinize. It surprises me that anyone would think this a controversial point."
Nothing about it not working, only that proper gear works better.
Again: Are YOU actually saying people should forgo properly designed, tested and proven gear...and use duct tape instead?
Because somebody says it works great and it's cheap?
Are you that dense?
I noticed the comment count, and I realized that middle school must have just got out. Didn't even have to read the comments.
Donal said..."Jeremy if you had bothered to click on the link I had posted about 5 hours ago you would have found out that yes duct tape is used to prevent frostbite in snow machine races. No they don't race just wearing duct tape. They use it below their protective gear so that if any gaps form they don't get frostbite on their face."
I never said NOBODY uses it. I said there were other, better forms of protection. I also think that anybody who thinks duct tape is the preferred method of protection for people who race has their head up their ass.
Reading comprehension...not that good, huh?
Allen - Based on your photo, it appears you missed out on middle school.
How was the joint?
"Paul - "I'm a Western Libertarian."
And you're also a liar.
And if you're so offended by my extremely interesting and funny profile, where's yours?
Chickenshit."
No it's true, that's what I am. Live and let live. Self reliance. Distrust of elites and government. I don't care if you cohabit with farm animals Jeremy as long as you keep it to yourself.
Offended? Hardly!! I thought it hilarious in view of your ragingly hateful and ugly personality displayed so prominently here for all to see. Too funny!!
I suppose I should man up and write my own fantasy description of myself so as not to appear chickenshit. I guess that's the definition of bravery in your world.
But seriously I could care less about an anonymous (which is what you are douchebag)internet persona.
Really.
Maybe the tape reinforces a balaclava and doesn't go directly on top of skin. Maybe she's talking about hands and fingers, or possibly toes. At any rate, this whole thing is news to me.
She's a continuous source of fascination, but I'm still not going to buy the book.
One thing you should never wear in the cold: Cotton.
MM. Silk long underwear is also very nice for cold winters and not very bulky either.
Avg temp here in the winter 22 F.
And wow. It took over 200 posts before Jeremey began begging for blow jobs from the guys. Usually he is quicker than than. LoL
I hope never to be in any place that cold.
However, I have been involved in train wrecks, derailments, and fires...on the Amtrak...going north to MinnesOta for Christmas.
So I better pack duct tape in my survivalist gear for train travel.
It's green to travel on the train but the employees are as surly as this bookstore snob and you quite possibly are risking your life.
Paul - "But seriously I could care less about an anonymous (which is what you are douchebag)internet persona. Really."
Yeah, I can see that, based on your continuing to respond to my comments, that you "could care less."
Duh.
Dust Bunny Twit - I'm not begging.
The guy called me on the phone and asked if he could.
Paul loves it when I tea bag him, too.
Want to take a shot at it?
I think you should defer to Jeremy's expertise on the uses of duct tape.
After all he uses it to duct tape young boys.
Check the crawlspace in his mother’s house.
tg, no sweat. I'm a fan of Don Kit.
Jeremy said...
edutcher - Let me guess:
You're a birther, tea bagging wing nut who spends most of his day whing about all things Obama.
Right?
Wrong. I have no dog in the birth cert fight, although I wonder why he doesn't release it and put an end to the nonsense; the medical records and transcripts interest me more, but I do have a life.
In answer to the reference to Tea Parties, I don't apply that sort of metaphor to other people, reserving the practice for those who don't have a rebuttal.
Adele Mundy said...
A true test to see if a man really loves you is if he will go out and buy you Tampax from the drugstore.
Hah, good one!! I received what can be called honorable mention on that score from my then-girlfriend's friends when I went into Strawbridge's to buy her a bra (she wears an odd size).
Something else.
I'm no expert on what makes duct tape so good, but I do know teflon is what they use in Thinsulate garments.
Could the two have something in common?
ROFL at Jeremy.
OMG A PALIN RECCOMMENDED DUCT TAPE!! I MUST GO ON A 50 COMMENT ANTI DUCT TAPE CRUSADE BECAUSE PALINS MUST BE WRONG WRONG WRONG AND I WILL ARGUE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NEVER RIGHT!!
Way to go Jeremy. Fight the good fight. Never ever conceed duct tape might be useful under any circumstances no matter how many independent sources anyone else quotes saying duct tape was useful against frostbite. Because that's how you show everybody how gosh darn rational you are.
Looks like Jeremy/Gene Olson's computer privileges at the community college got reinstated.
Heh.
Not keen on showing your face, purchasing a right wing book? Yes. Unfortunately,it is the nature of oppressive left wing bastions to punish anyone who falls out of line.
They probably would have boycotted your blog if they found out.
MC - Reading comprehension is evidently out of your domain.
I never said anything you refer to.
Wouldn't it be better to actually read my comments before posting silly bullshit?
POGO - Could you even get into a community college?
When you consider that Wasilla and Anchorage are only 40 miles apart and connected by road while 90% of Alaska is not connected by road and is approximately 1/3 the size of the contiguous United States, Wasilla is anything but a wilderness.
Well of course.
But I don't think the issue is that Todd Palin slaps on a duct tape mask and hops on his snow machine for a commute to the local WalMart.
The use of the tape has been detailed in multiple links as a technique for when they are running races at sub zero temperatures with wind chill temps in the sub 50's to minus 80 degree range. The tape protects any skin that might be exposed from leaks around goggles and possibly through the outer layers of gear. The tape also prevents condensation from breathing fogging up the interior of the goggles.
I have no idea why you guys are so fixated on this and deny the evidence and statements by people who are involved in the sport. Delusional doesn't even begin to touch it.
Synova, -40℉ = -40℃.
OMG, you are right! How can this be? Why, it's as if those numbers are arbitrary! This totally changes my understanding of the world -- the temperature-measuring portion of the world anyway.
I'll come on and scold you before Althouse does:
Do not feed the troll!
Ignore the burden of the tape and the siren calls to answer. Sing your own songs in another mode, such as:
Winter is icumen in,
Lhude sing Goddamm
The troll is a trained psychologist who specializes in this sort of thing. You are not. You are his lab rats.
Squeek! Squeek!
In fact, some squeaks are just the thing if you wish to sing a song of Itchy & Scratchy.
WV = gicetoot
awfully close to icetoot
Here's a use for duct tape a lot of us could identify with.
No problem, tg. I'm a big fan of Don Kit
Jeremy said...
edutcher - Let me guess:
You're a birther, tea bagging wing nut who spends most of his day whing about all things Obama.
Right?
Wrong. I have no dog in the fight, although I can't understand why Barry doesn't just release it and have done with it all; the medical records and transcripts interest me more, but I actually have a life.
As to the Tea Party reference, I regard reliance on the use of such expressions as a poor substitute for a valid rebuttal.
Adele Mundy said...
A true test to see if a man really loves you is if he will go out and buy you Tampax from the drugstore.
Done that a time or two; also went shopping for a bra for my then-girlfriend in Strawbridge's (she's an odd size).
PS No expert on duct tape, but I do know what makes Thinsulate work is teflon. Anybody know if teflon is used in duct tape?
And HERE are some creative uses for duct tape, including a duct tape beer helmet, which indeed sounds like something the MacKenzie brothers would have invented if they weren't so busy taping the air leaks in their parkas.
The MacKenzie brothers don't have anything on duct tape and beer, but they do have tips on how to get a mouse into a beer bottle.
And if you get a free case of beer with the mouse-in-a-bottle trick, why would you want to go on some dogsled race anyway, eh?
It's no joke, eh, you could get frostbit out there.
Beer'll keep you plenty warm.
Synova said...
...going out in sub-zero weather in nothing but duct tape would be a stupid thing to do?
In my defense, I was really drunk.
Hell, the Apollo 13 Astronauts wouldn't have gotten home without duct tape. They had to make the improvised CO2 scrubber, among other things, with the damned stuff.
They and the controllers back in Houston didn't need Pinky Positive at the Council Meeting to tell them that if they had appropriate equipment and proper procedures, none of this would have happened.
Purse-lipped rectitude didn't keep them alive against a cold vacuum of .001 microns.
No. Duct tape did.
Re husbands, Meade bought the book for me at Borders. Re faces, I was not keen to show mine in Madison purchasing a right-wing book.
That is a book-length comment -- about you. And I don't think it's a book you would want to see on the shelves at Broders.
I'm here to report that the St. Paul Borders had Palin's book displayed front and center, first thing to greet you upon entering the store.
FWIW I think duct (duck) tape and 4WD are two of God's gifts to farmers. And me.
wv courg
courage in an American dialect
I said "some" squeaks above, which is poor style.
Never use unnecessary qualifiers.
But, as a musician, I'm always thinking of singing in tune, and "some" squeaks are better than others, hence my waffling.
Here's an example proving the Renaissance seems to have been familiar both with discussions we have seen and some animal sounds that are more equal than others.
fa la la woof.
Wait a minute, JAL. Are you saying God created duct tape, too?
MadisonMan wrote:
I think any sane person in Alaska would have appropriate clothing to put on when the true cold descends. Why would someone have to resort to duct tape, other than bad planning?
I'm not sure why Ann didn't reference this, but Todd wasn't walking around like a lummox when oops! he got caught in the foul Alaskan weather.
The duct tape photo is one of Todd holding Piper during the 2000 mile Iron Dog race. Palin explains that the racers put duct tape on their exposed facial parts to prevent frostbite as they race along 100 mph.
Though I'm not much for deriding people, I think when Paul laughed at you ("a metrosexual") for criticising an Alaskan for being dumb (it was implied) during their inclement weather, it did sound really condescending. I mean really condescending. Wisconsin ain't no picnic and I'm sure you understand about cold weather too. But that's not what you were getting at. You made it seem that Todd was a stupid oaf who didn't see bad weather coming.
And as you can see, nothing could be further from the truth.
I only draw this smallish example out because it is yet another time when progressives willfully misunderstand or misconstrue a given reality, simply because the narrative is that conservatives are not as bright as you guys.
Not sure about other times, but this one is very much -- Egg. On. Face.
Cheers,
Victoria
I'm home. I'm exhausted. I spent all day driving, so I didn't get in much reading. Page 71, and I'm usually a speedreader. But I will finish the autobio tomorrow and be ready for Ann's bloggingheads episode to follow.
I have so many thoughts about Palin's book, that I hope to unburden my mind of them during that upcoming thread -- because I realise this isn't something one gets to talk about in every thread.
I'll be ready.
Best part of the autobio so far for me (other than Palin's impressive "barracuda" tone throughout that isn't at all perky or sweet) is when she was embarrassed that she had never been properly kissed when Todd first kissed her. Her inexperience showed.
-- She said that the guys she grew up with in Wassila were more like her brothers, rarely giving her cause for romantic feelings. When Todd showed up with his TWO fly rides as a basketball transfer at her school, she actually muttered out loud, "Thank you, God" when she saw him! --
Apparently, Todd blabbered to his teammates the next day about her virginal ways, which he thought was totally cute, but she was mortified when she found out from those guys.
"My young crushed spirit learned a lesson about guys that day: even the good ones can act like jerks."
Heh. Amen. And unlike many people, she didn't hold a grudge forever and a day about it.
Cheers,
Victoria
Buying it in Madison? What about reading it in Madison? Great opportunity to plug the KINDLE! Nobody has to know I'm reading Palin's book -- or the Twilight series.
Jeremy and Madison Man are Ducttapetionists- no amount of evidence will persuade them.
@Victoria:
Thanks for straightening out the record on that duct tape. It sounds to me like a crafty way to put a frost impervious layer against the skin in a variety of different shapes -cut to fit as it were. I can't imagine it's any more thermally insulating than any other thin layer of polymer, but the point is to avoid frostbite.
Will you be posting a review anywhere of your thoughts, or just sprinkling them here and there on the Althouse blog?
You'd think we were talking about the Watergate tapes
Duck/duct tape comes in such pretty colors. I'd wear sky blue to match my latest sledding outfit.
Does anyone else here besides me find it absolutely hilarious at Jeremy's incandescent Rage! against the whole idea of using duct tape to prevent frostbite? I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous, over-the-top RAAAAGE! It's over NINE-THOUSAAAAAAND!
Rage! Rage against the using of the duct tape!
But maybe I shouldn't mock. Maybe Jeremy had a really bad experience with duct tape, thus he resolved never to be without the proper equipment ever again.
I'm sure somebody markets a nice flesh colored "tape" that could accomplish the same thing: act as enough of a barrier to prevent the total heat loss and skin temperature falling below freezing.
Does anyone else here besides me find it absolutely hilarious at Jeremy's incandescent Rage! against the whole...
That's Jeremy's stock in trade: take the most contrarian position and argue it. There's really nothing wrong with it as an exercise: what's offensive and "hilarious" is how nasty he has to get doing it.
Having worked as a framing carpenter in -35F temps, I can assure you that duct tape is very useful in cold temperatures.
I have used it to secure a loose face cover to the hood of a parka, and over gauze to cover cuts when the temperature and humidity render Band-Aids useless.
It also covers leaky zippers so cold air can't infiltrate to base layers, tapes the tops of boots closed to powder doesn't blow/fall in.
If Todd Palin says that he used it, I believe that he did.
And Allen S is right about Gorilla Tape. It is 20X duct tape in all regards. It is the Habenero to duct tape's Anaheim. I've used it to hold car bodies together after accidents.
Super Glue, sold as a first aid item goes by the name of New Skin. Forget Band-Aids. Clean the cut, apply New Skin, hold the seam together for a minute and the cut is closed.
Will you be posting a review anywhere of your thoughts, or just sprinkling them here and there on the Althouse blog?
Hi Chicken! :)
Yes, just a sprinkling, a dab, a flounce here and there -- especially in the forthcoming Bloggingheads post. I used to review books and I had one stricture. Let it sink in for a fortnight before you review it.
I wouldn't do less with Palin's book, even if I can share my first impressions and opinions.
Cheers,
Victoria
Great opportunity to plug the KINDLE!
A) Ann doesn't care for her Kindle. Meanwhile, I have bought 4 of them and to say I'm big on this device is an understatement.
B) Going Rogue, sadly, is not available in the Kindle Store until 26 December.
It's probably to do with the guaranteed price for NYT Bestsellers, $9.99. I've been noticing a lot of the more famous books are getting delayed debuts on the Kindle probably because it eats into their revenue.
I've used it to hold car bodies together after accidents.
A few weeks ago I watched the "Myth Busters" episode where they suspend a car using duct tape. They did a simple test first using a single strip to find out how much weight it could bear. Knowing the lbs/strip factor, it was easy to calculate the number of strips it would take to suspend a car of a given weight. It worked too!
Yes, just a sprinkling, a dab, a flounce here and there -- especially in the forthcoming Bloggingheads post.
Oh great- I'll look forward to it!
no flouncing off though! :)
Duct tape is really amazingly useful stuff, isnt' it? Alton Brown is always talking about a "multi tasker" and duct tape sure is that.
I encourage you to break something this week just so you can repair it with Gorrilla Tape and enjoy its incredibleness.
Not of caution: Gorilla Tape does not repair broken rules, vows or promises. Be careful what you break.
"Honey, I just laid Dave Schwartz's teen-age daughter!" is a circumstance where Gorilla Tape will be of little use, except when Dave Schwartz uses it to restrain you for the little ride in the trunk of his car, on the way out to the marsh.
chickenlittle I'm sure somebody markets a nice flesh colored "tape"
Not seen that but they do make colors -- all kinds of colors: Purple, red, blue, green, pink, yellow -- flourescent colors too. I have used it to put stripes on the poles for horse jumps.
I used white duct (duck) tape to hold down the aisle runner in a gazebo at a wedding in the breezy Outer Banks.
vbspurs said...
I used to review books and I had one stricture. Let it sink in for a fortnight before you review it.
I wouldn't do less with Palin's book, even if I can share my first impressions and opinions.
Gee, Victoria, everyone's waiting with baited breath on your verdict. As if you're not a completely in-the-tank shill for Sarah Palin. Frankly, the only question left is whether you're gonna be a groupie on her book tour and ask her if you can eat her pussy out on her bus.
I don't feel bad about saying such a rude thing.
For one, we're over 200 posts so few people will see this.
For two, Althouse patted that guy Palladian on the back when he trolled people who called Palin dumb, a judgment that is now the official line of the blogger herself after a long time of her trying to deny the obvious. (Palladian used to constantly say Palin's vagina was biting me, or some weird shit like that. Now Palladian returns to act like he's some voice of reason on Sarah Palin. HAHA!)
Now we're supposed to await the big book review from Victoria. On a book by a ghostwriter writing for a woman who did not know jack squat abut anything in the presidential campaign but thought she was qualified to be Vice President and a heartbeat away from the presidency under a very old presidential candidate.
In case some of you still cannot figure out reality: SARAH PALIN IS DUMBER THAN ME AND I AM A LOAFING OAF! ALSO, SARAH PALIN LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING! This woman should do herself and her family a big favor and just get the hell off of the stage. She is a national joke. She was a candidate for VP and she could not answer the most basic questions in a way that even remotely suggested she knows a thing about anything. SHE IS A DUNCE. And I have contempt for a Republican Party that attempted to get a complete dunce and ignoramous a heartbeat from the presidency. The GOP is playing way too recklessly with the lives and futures of my family and my neighbors and my fellow citizens. And I resent it.
But Victoria can treat Palin's stupid book as if it is some important work, and not as the cynical mega-hyped cash-in product that it so obviously is.
Jeremy is actually Candle from Collective Wishes. Great job! You've got my gasping for air, I am laughing so hard!
MM said: Better anti-frostbite tip: Pay attention to the weather forecast and dress/react appropriately.
That would be good advice if weather forecasts were accurate. ;-)
Nobody says it doesn't work as a cheap and easy way to help avoid frostbite, but are you saying it's the preferred method, over materials and actions that are designed to deal with such a thing?
Was there ever any claim as to "preferred" method? That's where Jeremy's entire anti-duct tape argument falls to pieces. In the book, it's referred to as a "tip" and nothing more.
WV: braver. Or not Ann in Madison book stores.
It might well be a preferred-by-some method while in a race where you *lose* if your other equipment and protective gear shifts a little bit and you have to stop to fix it so that the tiny little spot of skin the air is hitting is covered. Someone in a race might decide to take a little frost bite in order to not automatically lose the whole race.
In other situations you can adjust your gear whenever you need to.
Um, there is no way this is the real Jeremy.
This is fake Jeremy - either this is someone spoofing him with a separate account, or there is a team of people posting as "Jeremy" and today it's the guy who does not cinch his belt too tightly.
I'm looking at this map of the Iron Dog race and trying to figure out how conditions on this route can possibly be worse than those brutal conditions of the pistes at Tahoe. Obviously, these racers are not nearly the awesome outdoorsman that Jeremy is.
I don't care about duct tape to prevent frostbite. I just came in here to see the resident Sandy Vagina whip up one of his premenstrual vortices about Palin. And he didn't disappoint. You've finally reached a new low in entertainment. Your ideology has rendered you completely void of humor, much less a semblence of intellect. You're a big dummy for the masses.
You dumbfucks are STILL blathering on about duct tape???? WHining and bitching about ME??
Don't you know when someone is pulling your leg...fucking with you...stirring the pot...then letting it fly?
Can you people possibly be this dense?
Every time I get things rolling on something like this I'm absolutely amazed at how long it can go on. Hundreds of comments and arguments relating to duct tape.
It certainly says a lot about the intellectual capacity of many here...doesn't it?
Get-a-life...
There are a lot of well-fed English Lit majors here, who have never so much as put snow chains on a vehicle in their whole entire lives, sitting in their cozy living rooms in deep-blue cities in the Lower 48, and pontificating on the propriety of Todd Palin using duct tape to prevent frostbite.
More than one of them take the same shrill, indignant tone we have come to expect from certain quarters when it comes to any discussion of any of Sarah Palin's personal characteristics, beliefs, or doings. For them, the use of duct tape as a frostbite preventative by Todd Palin is just one more bit of prima facie evidence that Sarah Palin is an evil nincompoop.
As with so many other facets of life outside their narrow fields of specialization, the know-it-all Ivy League lotus eaters are wrong. People who work or play in very cold weather know that it makes an excellent frostbite preventative, and frequently use it by preference. It cuts the wind and prevents freezing by convection, not that any of you pencil-pushing liberal-arts metrosexuals would even have a clue what that word means.
The guy who just walked solo to the South Pole, dragging a sled behind him? He wore duct tape on his face the whole way.
Many of the Iditarod and Iron Dog competitors in Alaska use it. How hard would it have been for you haters to google "Iron Dog" + "Duct Tape" before getting your Palin hate on? Images galore showing what know-it-all fools you are.
Alaska Daily News article from February 5th: "Duct Tape Keeps Iron Dog Racers' Faces Fresh"-- http://www.adn.com/irondog/story/679598.html
Here's the competitor's information page for the Susitna 100 wilderness race, specifically recommending duct tape for this purpose:
http://www.susitna100.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=45
Auerbach's Wilderness Medicine textbook mentions it, as does the Freedom of the Hills guide from the Mountaineers.
And of course, Todd Palin has been a North Slope roughneck for years, working in some of the most inhospitable conditions known to human beings, where a single misstep means a speedy death. To suggest that he doesn't know how to prepare for potential frostbite is beyond risible.
I especially have to laugh at MadMan's recommendation to pay attention to the "forecast" and dress appropriately. Hello, McFly? We're talking about the Alaska interior in the winter. The "forecast", such as it is, is for severe frostbite risk 24 hours a day for the next four months.
Thank you one and all, especially Jeremy and Garage, for displaying your hateful, arrogant ignorance for everyone else's amusement yet again. Can you guys EVER stop showing your asses whenever Sarah Palin is mentioned?
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