Althouse: "You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about."

July 21, 2009

"You know, I have to say that I am not familiar with the provision you are talking about."

Obama answering the question: "Will people be able to keep their insurance and will insurers be able to write new policies even though H.R. 3200 is passed?"

Is he a fool or is he lying?

I'm leaning toward lying because of the way his answer emphasizes keeping insurance — which (I think) the bill permits — and avoids talking about writing new policies — which (I think) it forbids.

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Kirk Parker said...: "right up until it became apparent he lied and distorted us into invading Iraq instead of going into Afghanistan. [emphasis added]"

Um, dude, I don't quite know how to break this to you... but... We DID go into Afghanistan. A whole year and a half before Iraq. We've been there ever since. We're there right now.

I know, I know: DNFTT. But Jeremy protests he's not a troll, and I think occasionally taking apart something like this to demonstrate why he is is not a bad thing.; 7/22/09, 12:49 PM
BJM said...: The blue dogs refuse to eat the Obamacare dog food, so the DNC pulls out a big scary stick. Something tells me this is going to another case of dog bites man.

Pelosi's dog & pony show this morning began with a woman who survived class IV uterine cancer and was almost bankrupted by uncovered treatment/drugs although she bought a "low end", high deductible policy.

Hello. Firstly, what exactly didn't she understand about the term "low end" and why does she think she would have been given the same protocols under universal heath care based on costs, not outcomes?

In the UK, for example, she would have given palliative care and sent home to die. Does anyone really believe that a govt single payer system governed by costs will treat late stage cancer, chronic disease, preemies or massive trauma patients?

Pelosi also said today that there would be caps on cost but no caps on treatment.

I call bullshit.; 7/22/09, 2:37 PM
The Drill SGT said...: Pelosi also said today that there would be caps on cost but no caps on treatment.

I call bullshit.

LOL, The AMA should recognize that dagger for what it is... A pay cut for doctors; 7/22/09, 4:14 PM
BJM said...: Sarge,

The AMA is doing to doctors what the AARP is to seniors, selling them out for a promised payback from a pack of congenital liars.; 7/22/09, 4:43 PM
former law student said...: my excuse is a wireless keyboard combined with fat fingers and poor editing skills, what's yours

No excuse, sir!

I'm the worst mistyper on this blog; I was happy not to be alone for once.; 7/22/09, 9:08 PM
Jason said...: I think it's cool when former law student dusts off his textbooks and tries to apply the fundamentals of logical inquiry.

I think it would be even cooler if he understood them.

Here's a clue, kid: Life isn't a law school text book.

Here's another clue: Pointing out adverse selection is not a slippery slope fallacy, dumbass.; 7/22/09, 10:04 PM
kentuckyliz said...: Here's another quote from Sonya Sotomayor's doctor brother's financial information page:

Please understand that payment of your bill is considered part of the treatment.

Great marketing shtick for the Big O. Someone call Axelrod!; 7/23/09, 9:01 AM
Methadras said...: Jeremy said...

Methadras said..."The notion of private providers will become regulatorily outlawed."

MORON:

Once again:

Saying Section 102 will prohibit private health care in the future is bullshit.

Section 102 protects the right of people to keep their current coverage and by only quoting the one line that says: "Limitation on New Enrollment" is disingenuous at best.

It's not disingenuous if you or your employer decides to change from a private policy to a government policy, pumpkin-head.

Here's the statement that creates the confusion:

"Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1."

Saying that this means it makes "private insurance illegal" is ridiculous, especially considering what the rest of the bill actually says:

You know, you should do less fisting, more reading. It would effectively over time regulate private insurance into illegality and fine you should decide not to take it.

The bill not only sets up new rules relating to accessibility, coverage, and cost, but also says that "existing insurance coverage and plans will be grandfathered for 5 years after the law goes into effect."

All of which is arbitrary and setup by a commission or a commissioner. No one knows the cost, no one will know the risk and after 5 years it gets absorbed, which means that when the switch over occurs it will be chaos like prescription care plan B and plan D and like the DTV switchover. No one knows what the new rules will be and when people who use the government single payer system clusterfuck it by going to the doctor for everything from a scratch to a cold to everything else from A to Z because it will be essentially free, then rationing will kick in and the rules and regulations will change to reflect that rationing.

Keep sucking the penile appendage of government you moronic left wing 5th columnist suckass. You can't polish a turd and call it a bar of gold, but in your fantasy world you and your ilk kneel at these obsessive altars of government control over private citizens lives because you think it is the easiest way to gain control over those lives. In reality people don't like you and they don't like your ideas and since you can't realistically hope to affect that change in the hearts and minds of the American Public, you scramble to support any overreaching government idea that you can piggy-back on as a means to exert your small penisness over everyone else. Oh, how I would love to grind your nuts under my heel you piece of sub-human trash.; 7/23/09, 9:39 PM
Roux said...: He's a lying POS... that's what he has been his entire life.; 11/10/13, 9:00 PM