Bill will be the unexpected roommate. Even if a President Obama can discipline Hillary and get her to play second fiddle, there is not the remotest chance that he can get the former president to accept such rules. Even if Bill Clinton wanted to rein in his newly prolific public expressions of rage and frustration, there is doubt that he is any longer capable of doing so....If Hillary wants it badly enough, there's a very straightforward solution to this problem: Divorce!
The public Bill Clinton has morphed over the past few months from a statesman and philanthropist to a petulant, angry, cursing, spoiled narcissist, accusing everyone of being sleazy and biased and in so doing fashioning himself as a foil for Obama. This unattractive image is not the right one for the bottom of a ticket in a presidential race. And make no mistake, Bill comes along with Hillary.
June 4, 2008
"Putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket for vice president creates a ménage-à-trois."
Says Dick Morris. I thought this was going to be about the way Michelle Obama doesn't want another woman in the picture, but Morris's problem is with Bill Clinton.
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The problem is neatly encapsulated in one sentence you wrote last night:
NOW: Hillary (with Bill) enters.
Instead of a Gone With The Wind analogy, I thought that Hillary would be Kahn to Obama's Captain Kirk; "From hell's heart I stab at thee."
Divorcing Bill won't make him go away.
Continuing my own analogy, this makes Rev. Wright, and Power, and...others? red shirts on NCC-1701X Change.
I think Obama and Hillary would be the most dis-functional pairing ever! I don't think it will happen.
And I'll add that divorcing Bill will just make her seem all the more calculating to some.
Maybe she should just start making his breakfast (bacon, sausage, eggs, donuts) and dinner (fried chicken, macaroni and cheese, ice cream). Kill him with kindness.
The only word I can think of to describe Dick Morris's hatred of the Clintons is pathological.
This guy has some serious mental health issues.
Madison Man--don't know if you have lived in the south, but for the record, Macaroni and Cheese is considered a vegetable in these parts! Bon Appetit.
Althouse for VP!!
Wow Madison Man, I always thought you were a gentle sort. You must really hate Bill these days. It must be tough for the comeback kid to be regarded as the Fatty Arbuckle of the Democratic party. Funny stuff.
Dick Morris is, of course, sleazy and biased, so it's not surprising to see him project that toward the Clintons, and in sexual terms.
Hey to start today’s threadjack; Mr. Sulu is getting married to his partner of over 20 years. I don't care much about gay marriage but I think it's kinda sweet. Good luck to him and his guy.
Plus they aren't inviting Captain Kirk. Sweet.
This is such poppycock!
Why would Obama want her?
1.She delivers to McCain 6 months worth of video of her blasting her running mate.
2. What voter has ever given a rats a$$ about the VP on the ticket?
3. Obama has been running on CHANGE and now he's going to bring back all the old ghosts? PLEASEEE!
Why would she want it?
1. As NY senator she would wield much more power on the national scene and she wouldn't have to go to state funerals ;-)
2. If McCain beats O, she will sit back and say "I told youuuu'
3. If O loses and she's the VP, she's toast.
4. If O wins and his administration is a train wreck, she'll say "I told youuu"
5. The only scenario I see where she 'loses' is if the O administration sans Hillary, is a success.
I say, got to NY, hang out in the senate, and see what happens.
Dick Morris is spot-on. The Republicans would rub their hands with glee at the prospect of putting Bill within spurting distance of any young interns once more.
And Walter Koenig (Chekov) is the Best Man!
Boy, I bet there are trekkies out there who would give their refabriacted tricorder collection to be at those nuptials!
Well the tag does have “marriage” in it. Hey do you think if they write their own vows they can incorporate the phrase “To boldly go where no man has gone before.”
And Nichelle Nichols is in the wedding party!
I think that inviting that narcissist Kirk to the wedding is very similar to having Bill as the VP's spouse. The focus should be on the couple getting married -- or the President/Vice President -- not on a guest or spouse. You know with Kirk (Bill) at the wedding (White House) that the press will zoom in on him.
Your threadjack is entirely relevant!
Sulu and his partner have been together for 20 years. Is it likely that there are places where no man has gone before at this point? (I still laughed at your use of that phrase, though).
Poor Janice Rand gets no love...
Yeah. Uhura is the maid of honor. Man I love Uhura. I used to call her U-who-a. Which is Brooklyn for whore. But in a good "I want to get my freak on with your nasty self" sort of way. She really looked great in that red mini-skirt. Yummy.
Can you imagine Michelle Obama as Uhura?
Damn that's a scary thought.
"....Bill Clinton has morphed over the past few months from a statesman and philanthropist to a petulant, angry, cursing, spoiled narcissist, accusing everyone of being sleazy and biased and in so doing fashioning himself as a foil for Obama"
That Clinton was "a spoiled narcissist, accusing everyone of being sleazy and biased" was self-evident in 1998, but back then Bill was only a foil for the Republican-controlled Congress, and so he got a pass from the media (and all of lefty-world for that matter).
Hillary dumping Bill now wouuld be just as opportunistic as Obama dumping his church.
We're going to get the administration we deserve.
I can totally see Bill as Captain Kirk. And Al Gore as Mr. Spock the science officer. All worried about the global warming on the planet surface while Bill is only worried that he won’t get a chance to bang the green chick.
And Hillary. A Horta. Sorta.
I see Hillary as that Green Orion in Capt Pike's Talosian-induced fantasy. As I recall, she kept her mouth shut.
That Clinton was "a spoiled narcissist, accusing everyone of being sleazy and biased" was self-evident in 1998,
I remember wondering at the time why the Republicans were focusing on the sex scandal, when Clinton had committed so many other impeachable offenses.
From Wickpedia:
Horta(Star Trek) "An intelligent species indigenous to the planet Janus VI, the Horta can comfortably live in the airless and dark subterranean environment. It can also secrete a powerful corrosive."
From the planet Janus, the two faced god. And of course there is the physical resemblance.
Trooper York said...
"Can you imagine Michelle Obama as Uhura?"
I see her more as a Klingon - angry, bitter, and determined to seek vengeance for the sins of a world that has been dead and gone for decades. Still, I'm not sure if that's worse than her husband and his supporters, who more closely resemble the Borg.
A ménage-à-trois with Hill and Bill would quickly devolve into the final scenes from The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover.
No amount of ice on that would help.
The Clintons are the unwanted dinner guests that just won't go home.
Wouldn't Gov. of New York be a better stepping stone for POTUS (if that still is her goal) rather than VP or some spot in the cabinet?
Gov. of NY after 4 years of McCain or even after 8 years of Obama seems the wisest choice. Spot is open in 2010 and it's hers for the taking.
Either that or McCains VP. heh.
Clearly, Hillary is the acerbic Bones, whose complicated relationship with Kirk is simultanesouly affectionate and adversarial, with contempt for his judgment but respect for his results.
Damn it Barack, I am a queen not a vice president.
Could work.
Well, Barack is weak...er, tolerant, so he may pick her.
However, I hear there is talk of a new location for the vice presidential mansion here: Future VP Home
I'm shocked she would consider the VP spot. I'd think she'd be way to big for her britches
I hear Elba is very nice this time of year.
"I hear Elba is very nice this time of year."
If I were BHO, I'd think that vacation condo on St. Helena would be better fit.
Dick Morris is unhinged, and a boor. Who gives a rat what he says.
Yay for Capt. Sulu!
Beth,
With regard to Dick Morris being sleazy and biased, it seems to me that anyone who is close to the Clintons would have to be that way just to survive as long as he did. It just seems to fit with those two.
President Obama wouldn't have to let either Clinton past the White House gate. Bill could spent 4 years jerking off on the CNO's porch to amuse the traffic on Mass. Ave., but the VP's power consists of what the Pres. gives her.
The tribbles will be throwing flowers done the aisle behind Zulu.
Barack ought to screen Fatal Attraction one more time before settling on Hillary as his running mate.
Zulu has got to be the bottom.
Fool, don't you mean "Sulu" ?
If Hillary wants it badly enough, there's a very straightforward solution to this problem: Divorce!
Yep. I've been saying that on Althouse going on two years now. Divorce.
There's no gain in them staying together anymore, without companionship or shared goals.
Cheers,
Victoria
Perhaps the crew should be throwing tribbles?
You'd think ménage-à-trois would be Tennessee Williams.
Tangential OT:
Russian Judge Judy takes woman to town about her wanting a menage-à-trois.
The real Judge Judy would be a great VP for Obama.
"Putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket for vice president creates a ménage-à-trois."
Says Dick Morris. I thought this was going to be about the way Michelle Obama doesn't want another woman in the picture, but Morris's problem is with Bill Clinton.
Well, Ann, you're blonde. What can we say?
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