May 20, 2007

"Kraft singles on white bread was one of this President's most requested lunch items."

Writes Walter Scheib, former White House Executive Chef, fired by Laura Bush in 2005. Don't mess with the chef. He knows those embarrassing facts about you, like the way you like processed cheese and white bread, and is not afraid to tell the world.
Scheib, a professionally trained cook with an outstanding CV even before he started work at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, tells me flatly that making lunch for Bush was "not very challenging and didn't really require any of my professional training".

But according to Scheib, this is not a making a partisan or political statement. During our conversation over coffee in a swish New York bar, he does refer to the burgers and 'dogs to which his first Presidential employer, Bill Clinton, was partial. Yet Scheib's book, White House Chef, part memoir, part cookbook, clearly shows who he preferred working for, and why, during his 11 years in the basement kitchen, even if his professionalism - and presumably his desire to work for the big guns again - rule out any the dishing of any serious dirt....

"The White House is a private home," says Scheib. "And the important thing is to achieve what residents want - whether that's a bowl of chicken soup when they're not well or a state dinner for 900 people. Each is important and I submit that the chicken soup may even be more critical to your long-term success."

Scheib, or "Cookie" as President Bush liked to call him, is frustratingly discreet when it comes to talking about his tête-à-têtes over toast with his employers.
Aw, Cookie. I guess he's not a rat. But now the book's no fun at all! Weren't you ready to go to the bookstore and check the index for all the Hillary stuff? Check out the acknowlegements:
"Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, for taking a chance on me - you literally changed my life and I'll be in your debt forever - and President William Jefferson Clinton, for your good humour and social grace - I actually believe it when you say you are happy to see me. President George W Bush and First Lady Laura Bush - it was my pleasure to serve you."

Miaow. But when I mention this to Scheib he mumbles and says only, "Well, the temperament of the two families is substantially different."

"Both first ladies had eclectic palates," Scheib reveals. "Both presidents on the other hand, if you'd opened a barbeque or rib joint in the basement, would have been happy as clams...."
And if you'd opened up a clam joint in the basement, they'd've been...
When Bill Clinton swept into the White House with his forceful wife at his side, it was Hillary who decided to bring a new type of cuisine to the White House and it's never ending stream of guests. Less than two years after moving in, she began searching for an experienced chef. "There was this idea that great cuisine should be driven not by complicated techniques but by tremendous, fresh, ripe, spectacular, seasonal ingredients. It should be a flavour-driven concept. She wanted someone who could modernise the White House menu by moving away from the traditional French style and towards modern American cuisine." Scheib says.
In other words, Hillary was up on what had been the most well-known food trend of the previous 20 years. She's so amazing!
Surprisingly neither Bill nor Hillary ever asked for any cooking tips.
So Hillary didn't want to make cookies, Cookie?
Bill liked smoked mozzarella and pepperoni calzones with spicy tomato sauce, Southern fried chicken and Porterhouse steak (24 ounces, no less) with béarnaise sauce, while Hillary requested dishes such as curried Cornish hen, tuna melt with no-fat cheese, and cabbage rolls with shredded turkey and mixed vegetables.
Which food preference suggests better aptitude for the Presidency?
While the Clintons had been an inclusive group, who made staff a part of their extended family, the situation was distinctly different with the Bushes - from day one.

"With Laura it was simply, You're in a domestic position. We respect your professionalism, we like what you've done, everything is fine, but you're not our friend,'" says Scheib. "And a lot of my classic training was suddenly no longer necessary."...

The new President was into simpler food than his predecessor. "He didn't like soup or salad, or anything green," says Scheib. "He really just wanted beef and anything that could be prepared in Tex-Mex style. There was little challenge in preparing the President's lunch."
He really just wanted beef and anything that could be prepared in Tex-Mex style. Actually, that food preference seems really presidential to me. I mean if you were a PR person and it was your job to make up a lie about what your candidate eats, wouldn't that be the best lie?
President Bush was also reluctant to dine with his wife if she had friends over for lunch or if she was having anything fancy'. "He wanted one of his go-to items such as a cheese sandwich or a peanut butter and honey sandwich on white toast with potato chips," says Scheib.
Sounds right to me. I remember reading that Jackie Kennedy liked to have just a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch. Suddenly, it seems completely elegant, doesn't it?

The book is "White House Chef."

41 comments:

ricpic said...

Bush is a 60 year old man in great shape and yet he eats lots of red meat, cheese and white bread and apparently avoids greens. Either he's the exception to the rule or the health gurus have been feeding us a load of tripe.

Unknown said...

Both presidents on the other hand, if you'd opened a barbeque or rib joint in the basement, would have been happy as clams....

As would I...

babuilder said...

Scheib apparently doesn't realize that when he was swept in with sweet Hillary many others all over D.C. were being swept out. George Bush continues to be dogged by former Clinton employees,associates, and loyalist bureaucrats.

Palladian said...

"With Laura it was simply, You're in a domestic position. We respect your professionalism, we like what you've done, everything is fine, but you're not our friend,'" says Scheib."

As it should be. It's a bad idea to make "friends" in a professional situation like that. The boundaries established make the job a lot easier.

"There was this idea that great cuisine should be driven not by complicated techniques but by tremendous, fresh, ripe, spectacular, seasonal ingredients... She wanted someone who could modernise the White House menu by moving away from the traditional French style and towards modern American cuisine."

Then later:

"And a lot of my classic training was suddenly no longer necessary."

So suddenly you go from raving about the move away from classical French techniques to whining about your classic training not being necessary?

Anyway, I much prefer the recently retired White House pastry chef to this whiner.

Unknown said...

What a small-minded, bitchy article, and memoir. No wonder he got fired. And if this chef creep is not a Democrat, I'll eat my hat...er, cheese sandwich.

Anonymous said...

Who in this lifetime would want to know any more about Bill’s “appetite”? But as a Texan I just gotta say, if a man is what he eats, then Bush is Lone Star all the way, save for no longer having a beer or bourbon with his WH beef-butter-n-bread paper plate specials.

KCFleming said...

Let's all hope the White House plumber never writes a tell-all.

Ruth Anne Adams said...

You might get a different story about treating people like "the help"---the Clintons [and Gores] were antagonistic about their Secret Service details. And those guys were willing to take a bullet for POTUS and VPOTUS!

My source for this is one of our groomsmen who's been in the Service for 18 years who served on the VP detail for Gore and Cheney.

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Anonymous said...

Same here, Ruth Anne. A good friend who was Secret Service in Clinton's WH said he saw Hillary demand that a four-star General carry some of her stuff as if he were a lowly lackey. The Clintons' contempt for the SS and American military was surpassed only by their shining path ideological, self-interested corrupt and most regal splendor.

Have i mentioned that they are not my fave Presidential duo? Wonder whether she tipped the porter-General--

Unknown said...

Oh, no.

You can bet your ass Fen will be out buying American cheese and white bread within a matter of minutes after reading this.

KCFleming said...

I hope that doesn't similarly mean Lucky will start flashing a thong.

Synova said...

White bread with a slice of processed American cheese... ewwww.

But not because there's any lack of "culture" about it. Normal food and Tex-Mex (second only to New-Mex, thank you very much) is certainly going to play better with a lot of people than wanting something fancy and just-so for every meal and snack.

And I need to make lunch. It would be nice to have a chef in residence. *sigh*

Maxine Weiss said...

But what type of White Bread? There are many different kinds of organic sourdough, and artisan herb breads....and they're white!

Dave said...

I'll preface this comment by saying I generally like Bush.

But, one can infer a lot from one's diet. And the inferences drawn about Bush's diet are inferences of cultural backwardness and myopia. Not exactly estimable qualities. Alas, likely there are more relevant qualities to being President than the estimation with which I hold the President's dietary choices.

It just seems so....bland. White bread and processed cheese? Ew.

I'll grant him the barbecue, but the best BBQ is in Kansas City, not Texas. Incongruously, there is also amazing barbecue in New York City.

My guess is he likes cheap American beer, as well, not German or Belgian or English beers. The man ain't got no palate. Or sophistication. But I suppose he's better than the alternatives.

Revenant said...

He really just wanted beef and anything that could be prepared in Tex-Mex style. Actually, that food preference seems really presidential to me. I mean if you were a PR person and it was your job to make up a lie about what your candidate eats, wouldn't that be the best lie?

Yeah, my first thought was that that description plays right into the whole "Bush is really a Texas boy at heart" image that his handlers push.

the Clintons [and Gores] were antagonistic about their Secret Service details.

I heard the same thing from a former Secret Service guy. Bush is on much better terms with his security people than Clinton was (remember this?). Then again, its easy to see why Clinton might not have wanted as many, um, "witnesses" around during his daily routine. Several members of past security details had ratted him out in the past.

Palladian said...

For your information: In the middle ages, the renaissance and after, fine-grained white bread, called manchet, was the best bread, available only to the rich and the nobility.

"In Elizabethan England, to take a representative moment in English history, bread came in many types, each with its own name. The very best, made of finely sieved flour, was manchet. This was also called paindemaine or demeine (from Latin panis dominicus “Lord’s bread”, hence maine bread and various other forms); a more generic term was white bread. A roll was at first a type of manchet that was doubled over, or rolled, before being baked."

Unknown said...

Pogo,
What, may I ask...does a thong have to do with the White House chef's book or the President's diet?

Please...tell me this isn't just another idiotic Clinton related comment.

Unknown said...

Rev,
Yeah...I'm sure Bush is much more popular that Clinton...unless of course you discount the entire world.

Palladian said...

Darling, could you please stop ruining conversations with your tittering? Yes, we see you there. Now sit down.

amba said...

That's right up there with Nixon's ketchup on cottage cheese. Republicans like real American food!

amba said...

Oh, and Ronnie's jellybeans.

Revenant said...

Yeah...I'm sure Bush is much more popular that Clinton...unless of course you discount the entire world.

How likable someone his has nothing to do with how well you approve of the job they did.

I'm one of the 70-odd percent of the public that thinks Bush is doing a bad job in office. That doesn't affect the fact that the people I know who've met Bush -- Democrats, Republicans, and independents -- all describe him as a funny and gregarious guy.

Maybe "the entire world" thinks Bush is less likable than Clinton. But since virtually never of them have ever met either man, who gives a shit what they think?

JRR said...

The problem is that people like Luckyoldson are unable to separate the political from personal. These are the folks who say that they'd never date a Republican, due to their political beliefs alone.

babuilder said...

dave f said.
"I'll grant him the barbecue, but the best BBQ is in Kansas City, not Texas. Incongruously, there is also amazing barbecue in New York City."

Ms. Althouse it's time for comment moderation. This kind of sacrilege has no place in polite society.

Unknown said...

Rev,
When I say Clinton is more popular that Bush, I don't mean one is more fun to be around...I'm referring to their intellect and performance while in office. Bush is probably a real hoot...I mean, hey...he was a cheerleader.

Jeff: Why would a serious Democrat even want to date a serious Republican...or...vice versa?

Unless of course, neither really care about the real issues.

Simon said...

Luckyoldson said...
"Jeff: Why would a serious Democrat even want to date a serious Republican...or...vice versa?"

People connect with the people they connect with. Sometimes it's counterintuitive, sometimes it's surprising, and sometimes it cuts across political lines. But relationships are about human connections, which sometimes transcend politics.

Unknown said...

Simon,
Yes, "connecting" is what starts things off, but at some point the intellectual exchange of ideas and beliefs takes hold.

I'm certainly not saying "partners" have to agree, about everything, but steadfast beliefs regarding a woman's right to choose, guns, the death penalty, stem cell research, war, civil rights, etc. are going to effect one's relationship...eventually.

Unless of course, you're like Clarence Thomas and seldom if ever ask questions...or like Carville and Matalin...the dynamic duo of opposite politics...and make a living off of it.

Too many jims said...

"My source for this is one of our groomsmen who's been in the Service for 18 years who served on the VP detail for Gore and Cheney."

I do not doubt that the Clintons and/or Gores are bad people who treated the Secret Serivce badly. That said, if I had a babysitter who went around telling people (without being compelled to in a criminal proceeding) that I was a mean boss or petty or whatever, I don't think that would inspire a sense of trust and confidence.

Synova said...

"The man ain't got no palate. Or sophistication."

Yeahbut...

Some people don't care about palate or sophistication. I mean, I never quite understood how liking nasty food or obscure art was more "sophisticated" than liking food that tastes good or art that looks nice.

Take sushi. I like sushi but I don't have a "sophisticated" palate when it comes to sushi. Why is it a virtue to like the weird fish that tastes awful?

White bread and a kraft single tastes awful *too* so...

Still, if I were Pres I'd have a sushi bar in the basement and require my chef to pass a "pork noodle bowl" test. The chef would also have to be able to deliver good spinach, olive and feta as well as artichoke heart with pine nut pizzas.

Revenant said...

When I say Clinton is more popular that Bush, I don't mean one is more fun to be around...I'm referring to their intellect and performance while in office.

By that yardstick both men are entirely forgettable. That's why historians' average rankings for them are 20.67 and 21, out of 43.

But in any event the topic under discussion is what the men are like as individuals, not how the electorate likes them.

Ruth Anne Adams said...

Too Many Jims: Do you expect your babysitters to take a bullet for you?

I certainly talk about my bosses when I'm among friends. It just so happens that this fellow's bosses are famous politicians.

There is more context to that story. Shortly after the 2000 election results were announced, the then-VP-Elect Cheney asked the chief of the detail how many men were on the detail. He was told 'that's classified, sir.' Cheney insisted he needed to know so that he and Lynne could serve them buffalo steaks and full trimmings at the Christmas party [before the guests arrived]. NEVER in his prior 8 years had the Gores given them so much as a cup of coffee. It was a classy, yet shocking, surprise to the whole detail.

Will said...

"steadfast beliefs regarding a woman's right to choose, guns, the death penalty, stem cell research, war, civil rights, etc. are going to effect one's relationship...eventually."

Yeah, because every day, between getting the kids fed and out the door, finding clothes to wear, and packaging my leftovers for lunch, my wife and I get into long, drawn out discussions about stem cell research.

You must be in your 20's, right? So earnest, but out here in the real world, where politics is a hobby that we cram into our busy lives, these kinds of issues do not make or break relationships. They don't come up in lunch conversations. They don't intrude during rounds of Guitar Hero. No one in the WoW guild talks about them. Sometimes, when we drink, I have HARSH disagreements with my (known 20+ years) friends, we get drunk, argue, yell, hug, and buy more drinks. So what? We still love each other, and will no matter what.

I mean seriously, does someone's view of "civil rights" mean that you won't let your kids play with their kids? Or you won't move in next to them? Or you won't go to a Sunday School class they are teaching?

Embrace the diversity! Grow a little! Know some people who hold different values. You might find out that knowing a good person is a compelling enough reason to ignore their politics.

-Donut - Libertarian, church-going, meat eating, gun toting nerd from Austin. Which means I have a LOT of commie-liberal, tofu chewing, nader voting, gore worshipping, close wonderful friends, who I love dearly.

And Anne had it right, back when she settled the BBQ wars. The Salt Lick. I did, in fact, move to South Austin to get close to it.

Too many jims said...

Ruth Anne Adams said...
I certainly talk about my bosses when I'm among friends. It just so happens that this fellow's bosses are famous politicians.


Certainly you see the difference in you talking about your bosses and him talking about his bosses, don't you?

That said, thanks for providing the added context. When I read what your friend related I took it more as a statement about how magnimous/generous VP Cheney and his wife are and less about how the Gores treated them poorly.

When I read your comments from earlier in the thread (e.g "the Clintons [and Gores] were antagonistic about their Secret Service details"), I had taken it that your friend had said something much more perjorative about Gore.

Ruth Anne Adams said...

Too Many Jims: You do know that Gore was sued by the black agents that he refused on his detail, don't you? [The best link I can get is an old New York Times article about the class-action suit by black officers against the service during the Clinton years.]


But your second take [after my added context] is more correct.

Too many jims said...

Ruth Anne Adams said...
You do know that Gore was sued by the black agents that he refused on his detail, don't you? [The best link I can get is an old New York Times article about the class-action suit by black officers against the service during the Clinton years.]


No, I didn't know that. But your link reminded me that black agents filed a complaint (and subsequently a lawsuit) against the Secret Service for a pattern of discrimination that dated to at least 1987. (Actually, the case when filed alleged discrimination going back to 1974(.pdf)). I couldn't find anything that indicated that Gore refused any of these agents on his detail but would be appreciative of any links you can provide indicating that he did.

Ruth Anne Adams said...

Too Many Jims: I can't link it. It came from the aforementioned friend who is a Secret Service agent.

Unknown said...

I certainly second babuilder's post re BBQ. Memphis does quite well in the BBQ category and finished the BBQ cookoff contest at the Memphis in May fest this weekend.

Too many jims said...

Ruth Anne Adams said...
I can't link it. It came from the aforementioned friend who is a Secret Service agent.


The kind of discrimination that your friend alleges that Gore engaged in (or that the Secret Service engaged in on his behalf) is serious, seriously wrong and quite possibly illegal. I would note that the Secret Service has consistently denied that it discriminates in hiring and promotion of its black agents (at the request of Gore or otherwise).

I would hope that if your friend is comfortable sharing the Secret Service's (as requested by Gore) discriminatory employment practices with you, he would be equally willing to discuss them with the counsel for the plaintiffs. It is not too late, discovery(.pdf) is still proceeding.

Thorley Winston said...

You do know that Gore was sued by the black agents that he refused on his detail, don't you? [The best link I can get is an old New York Times article about the class-action suit by black officers against the service during the Clinton years.]

I think the key words here are “against the service” in which case former Vice President Gore might have been named in the suit the same way a governor or president is named when the government is a party to a lawsuit. In which case being named in a suit when you’re in the executive branch might mean that you’ve done nothing more than being the person in charge when the suit was filed.

Unknown said...

Revenant said.."By that yardstick both men are entirely forgettable. That's why historians' average rankings for them are 20.67 and 21, out of 43."

Where do you get that?

I've never seen anything approaching such an evaluation.