January 7, 2007

Biden vs. Graham on Iraq.

The face-off between Senators Joe Biden and Lindsay Graham on "Meet the Press" today was truly harrowing, and not because these men attacked each other. They did not. They were evenly matched -- though Biden felt strong, and Graham seemed deeply troubled and emotional. Each articulated his position on Iraq extremely well. Biden's message was "we need a political solution first, not a military solution." Graham's was "somebody needs to answer the question, what happens when we leave?"

By the way, at the end, Biden says, "I am running for President."
MR. RUSSERT: And you’re going to take on Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and all other comers.

SEN. BIDEN: I’m going to be Joe Biden, and I’m going to try to be the best Biden I can be. If I can, I got a shot. If I can’t, I lose.


vbspurs said...

I’m going to try to be the best Biden I can be

I waited for someone to reply first, but no one did.

It's just left to me to look at Senator Biden's comment first, and snigger about its utterly Boy Scoutish tone in a corner.

"Be the Best Biden I can be", good LORD.

From the Upper East Side salons, to the Beltway, had be said anything even remotely similar, Dubya would have been roasted alive for this insipid quip.

So, what's changed from 1988? After Gary Hart and President Clinton, are someone's affairs not an issue any more in politics? Because Joe Biden makes Ted Kennedy look like a piker.


Zeb Quinn said...

"I’m going to be Joe Biden, and I’m going to try to be the best Biden I can be," he said, in his best Neil Kinnock manner.

hdhouse said...

Graham should have been asking that question for 4 years. he obviously doesn't have an answer and never has nor does Mr. Bush...but keep asking Lindsey...keep asking.

paul a'barge said...

Lindsey Graham is a simpering RINO. He's not conservative, he's John McCain's whorehouse towel boy.

Some of these folks need to ask the question "What do we have to do to achieve absolute victory? Whom do we have to kill, and when can we get started."

hdhouse said...

why i guess paul said it all didn't he. marvelous. really enlightened. quality humanity. hubba hubba.

Steve said...

It's hard for me to imagine a scenario that might occur after we leave, where I would think "Wow, this wouldn't be happening if we had stayed."

The daily news from Iraq certainly creates a lot of doubt that our military has any substantial ability to prevent the Iraqis from doing terrible things to one another.

Anonymous said...

Joe Biden has about as much chance of being our next president as Orrin Hatch did back in 2000.

amba said...

Hadn't heard that particular charge against Biden before, Victoria (extramarital affairs). Can you substantiate it? Or even point to a source for the gossip?

vbspurs said...

Or even point to a source for the gossip?

Whoa. Fortunately I was searching for a comment on one of these threads, or else I'd never have gotten to read this, Amba.

Once, I was reading a (not Kitty Kelley sensationalist, ) bio on Senator Edward M. Kennedy.

In it, at the end of the book, there was a paragraph about Joe Biden, and how he and Ted share sexual predilections towards fresh young things.

This is not to say he does, of course, Amba -- I can't say that.

But that's the source.

P.S.: When I went to Rhode Island, it was openly spoken about, in the circles I hung around with. Fortunately, my circles aren't square.