April 13, 2006

"Hey, that wasn't bad at all. They just showed Mohammed standing there, looking normal."

I haven't had the chance to watch the new "South Park," part 2 of a take on the Muhammad comics craziness. But Jim Lindgren and Captain Ed have posts about it, and I wanted to open up a comments thread in case you're dying to talk about it.

UPDATE: I've seen the episode now, and I see that Comedy Central censored it, blacking out the few seconds when Muhammad was just standing there, looking normal. Actually, the censored part could have been a joke. You have to read the newspaper to learn that it really was censorship. After the censored part, there's a gloriously uncensored animation, from al Qaeda, depicting Americans and Jesus amid a flurry of turds. Some folks are perturbed at this:
A frequent South Park critic, William Donohue of the anti-defamation group Catholic League, called on Parker and Stone to resign out of principle for being censored.

"The ultimate hypocrite is not Comedy Central — that's their decision not to show the image of Muhammad or not — it's Parker and Stone," he said. "Like little whores, they'll sit there and grab the bucks. They'll sit there and they'll whine and they'll take their shot at Jesus. That's their stock in trade."

Well, the point is that Comedy Central didn't censor the blatant desecration of Jesus, while it censored a depiction of Muhammad just standing there. So clearly, it is responsive to threats of violence, not to nonviolent religious sensitivities. This was the point being made throughout the show, as the character Kyle arged to the TV executive: "Either it's all OK, or none of it is. Do the right thing."

AND: You've got to love the manatees. All the idea balls must be in the tank, available to make into jokes, or they will not work at all. I note that Donohue is demanding that Parker and Stone follow the ethics of the manatee. I think it's enough to admire the manatee, and then continue to press onward and try to get some good work done. Donohue is really exhibiting the ethics of Cartman, who would say what he needed to achieve his real goal, getting the TV show he hates off the air.


Sebastian said...

I was wondering if CC will make an official statement about it. It's hard to tell sometimes if it was a serious or a joke.

But assuming they really did censor it, I find it odd that comedy central thought an episode where the Virgin Mary was bleeding out of her ass was just fine, but there's to be no depiction of Mohammad.

I'm guessing this has something to do with the fact that Catholics probably won't threaten to kill CC execs. I don't blame people for being scared, but if we can't stand up for what we believe in we're finished.

chuck b. said...

Instapundit says, "Don't like people mocking your religion? Threaten them with violence. It seems to work pretty well."

I would like to stop people from mocking my religion (well, not really, I don't have a religion) but I don't have it in me to go through the whole florid, maudlin song and dance about redeeming anyone with blood. Even trying to sound sincere with a "Praise God" would be asking a lot for me. There's no way those words could pass my lips without a smirk.

So, I wonder if I could get by with just saying "I threaten you with violence"? Would that do it? Maybe if I was in polite company and didn't want to cause a scene, I could just say, "Excuse me, Sir/Madam, I-T-Y-W-V."

That would really make things a lot easier for me going forward. (And probably other people too.)

showhank said...

I think it was part of the episode, as can be seen here, Mohamed is in the opening credits.


Slocum said...

I think it was part of the episode, as can be seen here, Mohamed is in the opening credits.

But not so as you'd notice if you weren't doing a screen capture and then hunting for it. So did CC know that was in there or did Parker and Stone slip it past them?

Mark Haag said...

By insulting Christian symbols,(about as insulting as you can get) the writers showed how hypocritical CC is by sensoring a simple picture of Mohammed. Especially pointed at the end! I liked how the writers made fun of themselves, Family Guy, the networks, the President, the Terrorists,...who did they miss?

goesh said...

whether or not Mo was shown jihadists will still melt the skin from our faces with a dirty nuke if they can get their hands on one...

BrianOfAtlanta said...

The censoring wasn't part of the episode, it was done by Comedy Central.

XWL said...

Removing an image of Mohammed just standing there looking like a nomral guy, out of bounds for Comedy Central executives. . .

Leaving in images of George Bush, Jesus, and others crapping on the US Flag, and each other, perfectly acceptable.

I think Parker and Stone made their point pretty strongly with that episode.

(plus they also suggested they'll be laying off of the 'speechifying' episodes for awhile, given that they kept on making fun of Stan's 'gay little speeches' also)

Within the episode, the President was the staunchest defender of the 1st Amendment (even while working to persuade FOX to pull the Family Guy episode), it was the White House Press Corps who were a bunch of window-lickers that hadn't even heard of it before.

(It's getting easier and easier to believe in this South Park Conservatives angle)

(they never explained if all the extra sand had to be imported from Saudi Arabia, that's a loose end that won't ever be tied up, oh well)

bearbee said...

Not the first time South Park was censored or delayed airing of episode... Parker, Stone Respond to Pulling of 'South Park' Episode
"South Park" Parked by Complaints?

Just need to make enuff noise and/or threats.

Joe said...

The depiction of the White House press corps was priceless. Both episodes are being repeated tonight - well worth seeing.

BeckyJ said...

BrianofAtlanta is right; CC censored the episode. Ridiculous. They proved themselves to be complete wusses by showing the crap scene and pulling the Mohammad at the door bit (which was, what? all of 10 seconds?)

I do believe that it's time to write a few notes to Comedy Central.

Gerry said...

And what a moron he is. But he did lead me to a moment of quiet shame before, though.

I was all set to blog about that "they came for" riff Glenn instalanched earlier, saying "which one of these is different?" I thought the answer was the Catholic one, because I had no idea that Catholics had raised a stink and gotten an episode pulled.

I didn't know that some idiots, like this guy, had actually pulled that off. Maybe I heard it and didn't think about it. Maybe I didn't hear about it. But I should have and I should have been pissed about it.

But regardless of that, the 1st amendment issues are really secondary to the reason Comedy Central was censoring it-- there are radicals who really would like us dead over such things.

And they have shown an aptitude for making that yearning satisfied.

Let's keep our eye on the ball.

Glenn Howes said...

I saw this episode tonight. I was truly surprised how disheartening it was seeing those white letters expressing the cowardice of the Comedy Central executive team.

chuck b. said...

William Donohue's invocation of "little whores" is obviously meant to shame. But it falls a flat if you don't have a negative opinion of whores.

knox said...

After all the politically INcorrect stuff that has aired on Comedy Central throughout the years, censoring the image of Mohammed is just weird and really sad.

OT: Caught a few minutes of the Chapelle last night--hadn't watched it for a year or so--and I about busted a gut laughing. David Spade's show is great as well. Anyone catch the Jack Bauer/Kit Kat skit? Whoops, hijacking, nevermind.