That's appearing at the NYT, with the article "Trump on His Presidential Library: He’ll Write His Own History/In his determination to own and control every document in his future library, the president is working to shield his administration’s inner workings from public view."
Trump's library — which might include a hotel — is in a city I'm sure has some loneliness, Miami.
But let's think about Seoul, South Korea, and what it has decided to talk to us about — loneliness.
Does it just want us, over here in America, to know that it's taking care of its lonely people, with counseling and hugs from an imaginary animal?
I clicked "learn more" and got "In An Age Of Loneliness, Seoul Reimagines The City As Care" which is a sponsored New York Times article.
Seoul has a loneliness hotline, we're told. Also, "The Seoul 365 Challenge Program" — inviting residents to go outside once each day. And, my favorite, the "Mind Convenience Store," where "Anyone can step in, sit down, eat, and rest, and" — with the help of a facilitator called "Everyone's Friend"— "begin to connect."
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Now do the obama library that has no books
Their drool is showing
Of course their hagiography on thaf score was never ending
"only the lonely..."
Sole, South Korea. The loneliness is baked in.
I just returned from Alabama. My girlfriend is from Alabama. Alabama could teach the world about friendliness.
Seoul is where lawfare imposed a north korean tool who is persecuting Christians
The dreaded it’s.
The stay warm marshmallow confection was a phantasmic conception that threatened to spread a burden over the city. Who you gonna call?!
The most transparent president evarr the tjmes has a problem with
“Age is a question of mind over matter,” begins the apocryphal quote attributed to Satchel Paige, pitcher and philosopher. “If you don't mind, it don't matter.”
If it's a car you lack
I'd surely buy you a Cadillac
Whatever you need, any time of the day or night
I'm not ashamed to say
I hope it always will stay this way
My hat is off, won't you stand up and take a bow
And when we both get older
With walking canes and hair of gray
Have no fear, even though it's hard to hear
I will stand real close and say
Thank you for being a friend
A good place for Eleanor Rigby and Father McKenzie.
…that looks like forbidden love…
…NYT wants to distract you from their candidates- a Nazi that trained Antifa militants, an abortion barbie, turn texas blue hail mary, and introducing…Kamala Harris! Coming soon for 2028…
I thought Koreans had close knit multigenerational families. They do have a birth dearth, but that just means a closer parent:child ratio, for better or worse. And they still have the chaebol companies with one job for life, right? So you stay with the same coworkers forever. And excellent transportation across a geographically small country if you did move away from home to take that job. So where is the loneliness come from?
Is it the conformity? CC, JSM
Isn't Japan the place that has people for hire to be your 'friend', or a mourner at your funeral, or a playmate, or pretty much anything else, that's legal? Seoul has some catching up to do.
Prediction: In the USA, the loneliness problem will be solved with A.I. generated companions. At first, they'll be electronic simulations on a screen. But later, with Tesla's humanoid robots, they will be in your home. And still later, advances will be advertised in the new models, body english, facial features being capable of showing emotion, etc. The business model will be based on faking authenticity.
In the future, when the song "Take a Letter, Maria" comes on, they will think that the guy left his cheating wife for his AI assistant.
A Dezi, a Nazi, and a NYzi are social justice leaders leaning in.
If 3D glasses could create that AI girlfriend from Blade Runner 2049, I would fear for the future of the human race.
In Seoul, you don't have to face loneliness...alone. Get together with all your lonely friends?
And counseling can teach you to bury those unapproved thoughts and opinions.
“Loneliness does not come from having no people about one, but from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to oneself, or from holding certain views which others find inadmissible.”
― Carl Gustav Jung
The Korean word is 상놈 (sangnome) or for women 상년 (sangnyeon). If you’re not found in one of the five Confucian relationships to a person, there is no moral wrong for them to treat you as nothing. That’s different than a Christian society where the notion that we are all children of God grant you certain respect just for being. Combine the 오륜 (Oryun) with the extreme disparity of wealth and you get loneliness and alienation.
more plastic surgery, please!
Dave - Is your girlfriend Roll Tide or War Eagle or neither?
The Times does provide an extraordinary amount of garbage as cities from coast to coast collapse
Aggie at 856 - That sounds awful. Kill me now.
Miami is a place where New York tax refugees never have to be alone…
Alexa, Chat... bot, Googly, won't you be my friend. A complexity of Perplexity.
Its just like the althouse blog....stop in for a hug!
Lean in. Eyes forward, inward. The future is now.
The metropolitan area of Seoul has a population of around 26.5 million. That's actually going down. They're not having babies anymore. In fact, their replacement rate is the lowest of any industrialized nation at 0.80 (which is actually up from the low of 0.72 a few years ago).
South Korea is literally disappearing. So...it seems as though something went horribly wrong in the SK psyche years ago. No more relationships. No more marriages. No more babies. No more SK.
There's got to be a lesson in there somewhere.
NYT's should just stop pretending and get rid "all the news fit to print" and replace it with "Orange man always bad".
Yeah, those sad Koreans. Unlike the USA where everything is great.
Those would have to be nexus 4, at least
Those would have to be nexus 4, at least
They're not having babies anymore…There's got to be a lesson in there somewhere
Korea, let me introduce you to Japan. Japan, this is Korea. Here’s some money for the movies- now don’t spend it on condoms! You kids have fun!!!….
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Of course, there are millions of lonely people in the big cities of the USA, but who cares about those losers? Let 'em fend for themselves. They got $$ don't they? That's the 'murican way.
South Korea has a birthrate problem. Partly its due to affluence and feminism and partly to overcrowding. Eventually, Korea will wake up and take more more extreme measures. But if there population shrinks by 20 million, it will probably make life better for the remaining population. Especially with AI coming down the pike.
Again this is more subtle "Pro-Immigration" propaganda from the NYT's.
Save the planet and what not
So where is the loneliness come from?
Plastic surgery. You can't read faces anymore. You're surrounded by plastic-looking people.
"I've got one word for you, South Korea. One word. Plastics."
From one of my favorite movies.
Every time they attempt to soften. Every time they use the word "care". Every time they use hideous adolescent imagery like that, they make the marketing of their epidemic worse. It's hyper-feminized, patronizing slop advertisments on steroids, and they wonder why they're failing.
Every. Time.
No one goes to that club its too crowded
Seoul music:
All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
Seoul is a town without pity.
- Gene Pitney
“Does it just want us, over here in America, to know that it's taking care of its lonely people, with counseling and hugs from an imaginary animal?”
I guess they ate all the dogs.
Lonely - find a church and sign up for the summer foster care camps.
These kids often live in misery and are grateful for the love and attention they receive for a week out of a year. (and medical care they are not getting)
spend time with people less fortunate than you. Give to others.
South Korea is very pro america. the corrupt left are trying desperately to change that.
Why aren't women having babies in Korea.
S'mores are the original black, brown, and white companion while rapping around a fire.
Fat Bastard: Get in my belly!
Trump will make his own history? OMG, tell me it ain't true!
I look forward to visiting the Obama Library someday to see the "both sides" exhibits about the Iran Nuke Deal, Travon Martin looks like my unborn son and the Big Mike photo gallery.
FWIW, I married an Alabamian woman. Best decision ever. Strong, smart, independent, but a friendly to a degree that initially shocked this mid-west boy. [37th anniversary in 8 days!]
Multivariate analysis of South Korea's population crisis.
TLDR: All of the women moved to the cities and went to HGWON to get into the elite schools. They don't want to give up their careers. Men were abandoned in rural areas and import wives from vietnam and other south asian countries. The korean elite are more interested in making more robots and taking over North korea when it collapses
They really hate humanity
The NYT is obviously psychotherapy for childless AWFLs and their cats.
Achilles, thanks for the YT video link. So far: careers are more important than having babies and raising a family. The fat feminist moves to NZ because the gender pay gap is less... BBC video. Who'd a guessed? "Is there a worse Hell than here?" (South Korea) YES. IT'S CALLED NORTH KOREA. Jesus. The second lady, the teacher? At least she admits it is all about HER. I did notice that she equates organized activities for children, which are expensive, as necessary. That's always been horseshite. The last one, the ugly one, gets the most important question: How much of the housework do u get compared to your husband? Typical feminist logic and question. She's angry she had to stay at home and raise a child. Again, a career is more important. Feminism that has preached this since the early 70s did more to hurt women than help them. Turnkey kids, single mothers, the ghetto culture of fatherlessness. All results of that. I have zero sympathy for these women. I have sympathy for the children of the ugly one. I hope they grow up without the ugly perspective of their mother. She wants less working hours. She's a goddamned cartoonist, FFS. The replies on the YT are easily predictable. Thanks again for posting
Take all that great alabama stuff, then take it on down to the best damned beaches in America and there’s your paradise.
RAAT syndrome, volcels, same-sex isolation, etc are a progressive condition.
Call everyone’s friend from the loneliness hotline. I know the NYT hasn’t done well financially, but I never thought they would start scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Fatal femininity, morbid masculinity, transgender transoms are not viable conditions. Abort, sequester, and progress no further.
Look over there - at Trump. As Biden sues to block disclosure of audio recordings he made for his biographer. And on the heels of disclosure that Tulsi has made thousands of “classified” documents available. Over and above their obvious amorality NYT regularly confirms that it’s readers are also nitwits.
God forbid I stereotype, but the Koreans are a fundamentally strange people. In a low key kind of way. I see it in the ones I’ve met, the ones I read about, the Commie ones, and in their somehow slightly off television and movies. Hard to describe it . Obviously all Asian cultures are different but with the Koreans there’s something hard-wired in their psyche.
Obama’s library is so transparent they had to build it in a bunker.
The problem with the Iran nuke deals is that it didn't let us bomb Iran to utter collapse for the Israelis, all it did was keep them from having a bomb. And our excuse was that the people who, who were brutally suppressed by the Shah, whom we installed, Project Ajax, which maintained western control of Iran's oil by the Shah's Gestapo, SAVAK.
I think that the Iran nuke deal that Obama made is looking better and better, and if Trump hadn't ripped it up for his boss, Bibi, the world would be better off today. So yeah, I wonder if Obama isn't going to show what happened after his nuke deal was abrogated by Trump, who then killed the negotiators who were working on getting something acceptable to him, as if Trump's boss wanted to lose the pretext for this current war.
I don't get why almost every thread on this web site has to have some pro-israeli talking point thrown in, apropos of nothing, either random hate for Arabs or Muslims in general, or pretexts for our unprovoked attack on Iran.
Stay puff marshmallow friends. Now with AI.
It seems like a shortcurcuited affair with Hamasidol indulgence. Let people be persons without the Persian Gaza.
Not enough jew killing for you; sad
You shouldnt think it strains your head
Are contentious relationships a better deal than loneliness? I just don't think human beings are designed to be happy.....If you're not in pain and there's something good on television, what's the big deal about loneliness?
I have seen some Korean movies and tv. As noted, there's something strange about them. On the plus side, there's no graffiti and the subways are really clean. When you live in a clean, sterile environment, it enhances feelings of loneliness. In dirty, messy environments, you're troubled by the presence of other people and just as glad to be by yourself.
imTay said...
I don't get why almost every thread on this web site has to have some pro-israeli talking point thrown in, apropos of nothing, either random hate for Arabs or Muslims in general, or pretexts for our unprovoked attack on Iran.
This is a thread about loneliness and South Korean birth rates.
You are just deranged and absurd and really a lunatic at this point. I don't even like Natanyahu and think he should probably be in jail. But your jooooo hatred is bleeding into everything including this thread.
You need to go live with your Shia heroes and get the fuck out of this country. You are too good for this country of losers that don't want to wipe out the joooooos. Just leave.
William said...
Are contentious relationships a better deal than loneliness?
Depends on if you have kids or not.
If you have kids then your feelings no longer matter.
Only they do.
Didn't Team America already raise the issue of loneliness in Korea?
If you are an adult and you are not raising children then you should get nothing from society as well. You should be paying taxes to support the people who are providing for the future of the country.
If you are not married and raising the children you have with the person you had them with you should not be supported.
The data makes it clear that society works when the mother and the father of children both help raise them. If you have children and you initiate a divorce without cause you should be a pariah.
We need to end the support of selfishness.
Lonliness is real. It killed a friend five years ago. Our "Local" closed and the regulars scattered to a half-dozen others, nearby. No predicting who would be where or when.
It's not like you get the itch and you call someone up and ask where there're going to be and when. Not the same as just showing -up and there's one or a dozen "knowns" who make a place for you at the bar or a table. Have one or stay all afternoon or all night or both. It was always there when you needed to be somwhere other than alone.
I wasn't surprised when he chose the gun to take him 'home'.
I did the eulogy. Big crowd. After a mention of the basics, I talked to a couple dozen of them and I went on for awhile. I talked to and talked for the deceased. I wanted him to have one last time with the mates he laughed with and laughed at and loved (though he'd never say that).
I made sure the people in the chaple did all that - and cried - and had a last chance to say a silent goodbye before final closing time.
Hell; one wise old Jesuit once told me, isn't a fucking burning lake of fire - it's alienation. A life unshared is nothing. Most people don't deal well with nothing.
IM Tay - would you prefer pro-Islamic state ? there are tons of them - and you Israel haters are OK with Islamic theocratic states.
why pick on Israel so much? it's just one.
IM Tay - Obama is your guy. now - do f off.
I hope Obama's over-priced monument to himself includes a diorama of stacks of US Tax payer dollars on large wodden pallets - shipped to the His favorite women-subjugating, homosexual killing, dog murdering, thuggish Islamic Supremacist males.
large WOOD pallets"
Years ago, there was a controversy about the National Archives denying Richard Nixon and his Presidential library control over his presidential papers. This suggests that other presidents, their libraries, heirs and foundations did have some control over their papers, how they were presented, and what the overall narrative of the library was to be. Surely a trip through the JFK or LBJ museum won't reveal anything of the secret "inner workings" of their White House. That's obviously true of the Clinton, Bush, and Obama museums.
Mention of heirs brings up the fact that Trump won't be around forever to direct the library so he's doing what he can now to set down guidelines for the future. And how do we know what's really important to Trump and foremost in his mind. The library, the ballroom, the reflecting pool, the arch -- are they as important or more important as the war with Iraq or the price of gasoline? Enough mindreading from the media.
I predicted just the other day that South Korea (and Japan) would lead the world in creating Ministries of Fertility to bring young people together and facilitate their couplings. Begone the old idea that government has no place in the bedroom.
It's unclear what Israel or Iran has to do with this story, but some pushback on conservative sites against the "Israel can do no wrong" school is usually welcome.
Korea is fairly north (even the South). Length of day in December is not quite 10 hours. Not Arctic, but enough to trigger SAD? CC, JSM
China isnt similarly afflicted and its farther north
The Political Junkie asks the ONE most important question about Alabama.
Dave - Is your girlfriend Roll Tide or War Eagle or neither?
First of all, I think the only "neithers" are trannies, or something.
My family origins are in Mobile. I left at an early age but go back at least once a year to sit on my Mom and Dad's graves and talk awhile.
And, to visit with a cousin who's been my closest fellow-being since birth. Every year he introduces me to other cousins I've never heard of. Cousins are big in the South.
One gorgeous November Saturday afternoon, I thought I'd go over to a popular golf course and try to get on as a single. When I walked into the proshop, the guy there looked at me like I was an alien from a distant galaxy - a crazy one, at that.
Turned out I was the ONLY person at the links. The Alabama - Auburn game was on the TV. That I didn't even know that was a whole 'nother level of blasphemy. Fuck it. Played three-man best-ball. Crushed par!
FWIW, I'm a Roll Tide guy - perhaps just to annoy my brother who's an Auburn grad (good enough for an entry level job at TSA, I'm sure).
At the Bama Breeze
You're one of our own down there
You'll never drink alone down there
Good God, I feel at home down there...
Who said "Israel can do no wrong?"
Names, and quotes please.
john mosby said...
Korea is fairly north (even the South). Length of day in December is not quite 10 hours. Not Arctic, but enough to trigger SAD? CC, JSM
This is more of a status consciousness problem.
People in SK look down on having kids and motherhood.
It starts in schools. If you don't get into one of the SKY schools in SK you are treated like a deplorable. Only a small % actually get into those schools and much like the Ivy pipeline they end up in government.
The feedback loop is that women are just better at school than men and disproportionately succeed and therefor the government aristocracy skews A type female. Even the men that get through this pipeline are not having kids at the age of 22.
Governments go through this pattern of democracy -> prosperity -> aristocracy -> corruption -> demographic death. It is so repetitive.
the earth is merely attempting a keystone species equilibrium of population. or so I hope.
Doesn't Korea have a perilously low reproduction rate. I'd say a policy of mass marriages ala the Moonie folks would be more likely to work than imaginary stuffed toys.
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