From "Nobel Peace Prize Winner Machado Vows to End Maduro’s Rule in Venezuela/María Corina Machado reappeared on the global stage as the Trump administration ramped up its pressure campaign against President Nicolás Maduro" (NYT).
ADDED: I'm reading "How Nobel peace prize winner María Machado fled Venezuela, in a wig/The Venezuelan opposition leader took great risks to reach Norway, where her daughter had accepted the prize, making a surprise appearance hours later" (London Times): "... Machado left her safe house in the Caracas suburbs on Monday night, wearing a wig and a disguise.... [and] embarked on a ten-hour journey through ten military checkpoints before reaching the coast by midnight. After resting for a few hours at a coastal fishing village, she and two others set out at 5am on a traditional wooden skiff — a small lightweight fishing boat with a shallow bottom, designed to be used near shore — and made the 35-mile trip across the Caribbean Sea to Curaçao, an island nation within the kingdom of the Netherlands. Strong winds and choppy seas delayed her crossing.... [A] source said that the Machado escape team alerted the US government 'so that they would not blow up the boat.' The opposition leader has been a vocal supporter of the Trump administration’s increased military presence in the area...."
AND: The NYT quotes Machado: "I believe that President Trump’s actions have been decisive to reach the point where we are right now, in which the regime is weaker than ever. You need to raise the cost of staying in power and lower the cost of leaving power. Only when you do that, this regime will break down. And that’s where we’re moving toward right now."
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She is already a nonperson to the Left because "she repeated the Trump Administration taking points".
Does anyone take the NYT seriously?
You allow a vermin beachhead to be established in the Americas and shit will happen.
The Nobel Prize Committee wants to revoke the Peace Price it accidentally awarded to someone who is not anti-Trump.
I am curious what would be wrong with trading Europe and NATO to Russia for the Americas to the US.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
We're stealing their oil and blasting their boats out of the water.
It's not a "threat" as they claim. We're way past threatening these rat fuckers.
"she repeated the Trump Administration taking points"
Facts disguised as taking points. It keeps the reporters from having to leave their desks to verify them.
Yes. “We’ve been invaded “ Look at that list of rogues.
Old CW: Maduro is doing bad things. New CW: these things are only Trump's talking points.
The left has always had admiration of Venezuelan Marxism and death, just shy of their Che worship. RFK Jr’s crappy sibling Joe for Oil waxed nostalgic for Venezuelan leaders, thanking them for allowing him to profit from their cheap diesel and stuff…
Leftwing Soviet American Demcraptastic hack media - offended by her words.
"...Mr. Maduro’s largest corporate partner is Chevron, the American energy company, which has continued to export Venezuelan oil to the United States despite Mr. Trump’s military escalation. ...."
A reasonable person might ask why a newspaper claiming to be a 'paper of record' would salt this point in, as if to imply that a multinational corporation is doing something illegal. Does anybody remember CITGO? It's Venezuelan. They have refineries in the US, designed to process Venezuelan crude. We get regular shipments. There are contracts, operating under US law.
A news outlet's job is to convey both fact and relevant nuance. Instead, the NYT chooses both clumsy and stupid.
Free the people of the Americas and their economies will be strong and their people won't want to flee and invade the US.
We freed the Europeans and tried to keep them free, but they don't want it. Worse, they oppose our freedom here and are acting against it.
America should consider the EU hostile and treat them accordingly for the same reasons we considered the Soviet Union hostile.
Am I way off base here?
She can't go back, can she? Now that she has provided a pretext for arrest, having admitted she left the country illegally.
Creating a peace prize winner to be used as mouthpiece for invasion, great stuff. Glad to know the boys in Langley still have their fastball.
We don't hate the leftwing Soviet Maddow-Antifa media - enough.
Now we cant
Lets exchange every illegal criminal alien that Crook Liar Burisma Joe let in -( illegally ) and offer her asylum.
That is what Asylum is for.
No we cant
We have the Russian agents, we have the Iranian agents, we have terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, operating freely in accordance with the regime
Is this some kind of foreplay? Is she trying to give everyone at the Pentagon a boner?
Its been known for sometime now thats what operation cassandra was about
Yeah - she would not be safe in Soviet-Dem-America.
That derek maltz thd operations chief of the dea was in charge of then
If, indeed, we restore Ms. Machado to power, I hope she becomes the benevolent ruler we hope for. Our record of international meddling is not the best.
The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, and this "winner" attended a fellows program at Yale that many leaders of color revolutions around the world attend. Trump could easily win the Nobel Peace Prize if he bends his knee to the neocons, it's a bauble they control, and maybe that is what he is doing.
The NYT writes that there is "no conclusive evidence" regarding Hamas and Hezbollah involvement with the Maduro regime. Their evidentiary standards were somewhat different with the Steele Dossier and the Murtagh rape allegations......I don't know one way or another, but if Maduro is involved with Iran, drug gangs, and assorted left wing terrorists, why would he draw the line at Hamas and Hezbollah........It didn't work out when we toppled Saddam and Qaddaffi. Maybe this time we'll have better luck.
"Glad to know the boys in Langley still have their fastball."
“The Yale World Fellows program was designed to build a global network of emerging leaders — and time has shown just how extraordinary that community has become,” said James Levinsohn, Charles W. Goodyear Professor of Global Affairs and Dean of the Yale Jackson School. “We’re proud to count María Corina Machado among the World Fellows and the wider Yale Jackson family. She represents the best of what we aim to do: empowering principled leaders who strengthen societies in many ways — from advancing democracy to improving lives through innovation, dialogue, and service.” Nothing says democracy like gunboats.
https://jackson.yale.edu/news/2009-yale-world-fellow-maria-corina-machado-wins-nobel-peace-prize/
On the other hand, neither did the regime change thing work out so well for Saddam or Qaddaffi. Maybe Maduro will read the tea leaves, agree to allow a fair election, and retire peacefully to Brazil. Such things are possible. Or maybe he'll hang tough and establish a worker's paradise in Venezuela.
Goring famously said in an interview at his Nuremberg trial
"Why should a farmer want war? The best he can hope for is to come back to his farm in one piece? But it's easy for leaders to drag their population into war, totalitarian dictatorship, democracy, communist dictatorship, whatever,"
Says the man who bombed half of europe
Definitely Libya is a good model, flooded Europe with refugees, but we did manage to kill Qaddafi, at the price of re-opening the slave auction of captured women in public marketplaces. It was our problem that Qaddafi existed, it was not our problem what happened to the country once he was gone.
Maduro may have his faults, but, on the other hand, he's been a valuable ally in the war against Trump. The Nobel people and the NYT know where their priorities lie. In the way that Churchill entered into a partnership with Stalin to defeat Hitler, the NYT and the Nobel people know who the real enemy is in this this titanic struggle between Good and Evil.
That was a gift we gave al queda after he collaborated with us
Stupid warlord
"Says the man who bombed half of europe"
Well, he knew a little bit about turning what was a liberal democracy when Hitler first sought power into a bloodthirsty nation of, well, you can come up with your own descriptor..
Maduro is the dancing piano player in the saloon
Joe Bar said...
If, indeed, we restore Ms. Machado to power, I hope she becomes the benevolent ruler we hope for. Our record of international meddling is not the best.
I think it is a myth that you can be benevolent and rule most countries on the planet. Most countries have people that are not capable of having a benevolent ruler.
If you put someone benevolent in charge of Russia you will end up with a Putin eventually because that is what the people there have had for over a thousand years.
If you put someone benevolent in charge of most countries in the middle east you will end up with Iran or Yemen or Syria eventually.
Most countries in central/south America will end up Narco states if you put someone benevolent in charge. The people in Catholic countries need a firmer hand because corruption is the norm in those societies.
William said..
"Or maybe he'll hang tough and establish a worker's paradise in Venezuela."
That worker's paradise is always just around the corner. Just.
Achilles:
Perhaps "benevolent" is the wrong word. Maybe "effective" is more appropriate.
Gonzalez legitimately won the last election
“We're stealing their oil and blasting their boats out of the water.”
Maybe you missed the part where a Federal Judge approved the seizure two weeks ago. It was right there in the New York Times.
We need to put our handpicked leaders into these countries. Better a Pinochet than a Commie who fucks with us.
https://x.com/DailyCaller/status/1999159373180903725
William said..
"Or maybe he'll hang tough and establish a worker's paradise in Venezuela."
Show me where that's ever happened.
If you ever wonder how this country ended up in the mess that we are in, read the comments to the NYT. The comments on this Machado article are scary. They display a level of ignorance that is hard to understand. It is “Hate Trump” 24/7. Some people suggesting that Venezuela is in its current economic position because of Trump. Maybe they never heard of Chavez, the amount of corruption among government officials and their rape (Atlas Shrugged-like) of the Ven oil industry, and don’t realize that Ven oil production has dropped to less than 25% of what it produced in the mid-1990’s and that is after a substantial recent uptick.
Gigo
https://x.com/BuzzPatterson/status/1998854676050317628
I seriously doubt that she was actually in Venezuela, but if the above tweet is accurate, I withdraw all objections to Trump’s actions because that operation has state approval, if real.
The price of drugs will be a solid tell.
"But she repeated the Trump administration’s talking points on Mr. Maduro’s government
..... in other words, the truth.
Do the Dems really want to be the party of the Latin American left? That worked so well for them in the 80s. Even Clinton realized he needed to toughen up with Plan Colombia.
I mean, the Dems managed to reverse their position on Russia. Why can't they do the same for South American commies? CC, JSM
> Show me where that's ever happened
Rusty, instead you should send in your sarcasm detect her for an urgently needed recalibration.
After her praise of Trump I bet the peace prize committee wishes they would have given the prize to Maduro.
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