I'm reading "Armed man detained at site of planned memorial service for Charlie Kirk/The service, which will feature President Donald Trump and Cabinet members, has a top-level security designation akin to a Super Bowl" (WaPo).
How is it possible to have enough security when malefactors are capable of attempting to infiltrate security — either by faking being a member of law enforcement or by managing to become a member?
King Philip was assassinated in October 336 BC... Philip and his royal court were gathered in order to celebrate the marriage of Alexander I of Epirus and Cleopatra of Macedon, Philip's daughter... While the king was entering into the town's theatre, he was unprotected in order to appear approachable to the Greek diplomats and dignitaries who were present at that time. Philip was suddenly approached by Pausanias of Orestis, one of his seven bodyguards, who was also – according to Diodorus – his lover, and was stabbed in his ribs. After Philip was killed, the assassin immediately tried to escape and reach his getaway associates, who were waiting for him with horses at the entrance to Aegae. The assassin was pursued by three of Philip's other bodyguards, and during the chase, his horse tripped on a vine. He was subsequently stabbed to death by the bodyguards....
There, the bodyguard did not need to use his special access. The king was unprotected in order to appear approachable.
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Only time will tell.
Look where we find ourselves this weekend.
And it's still early.
Unsecure Security. The key of course, besides competent individuals is communication, so every knows who is doing what and where. Neither of which was present at Butler PA.
Trump seems to have done all he can about antifa and the armed, violent left. Its up to the FBI and the AG to take it from there. Of course, everything will have to be approved by all 700 US District Judges since they have the final say on every Presidental action.
How is it possible to maintain adequate security, when that showy "security" has repeatedly failed to prevent incidents?
How did Robinson get keys to building rooftop? These doors are normally locked for security reasons.
How did Robinson get long rifle on to campus, into building, up the stairs, without anyone noticing his rifle, and/or his weird limp?
Why wasn't "security" surveilling campus rooftops prior to and during Kirk event? Why wasn't Trump's Biden-assigned security team and local cops surveilling nearby rooftops prior to and during Butler rally?
Read how the Minnesota politicians were killed. Current events is more impressive than... obscure Phillip facts, no? Hint: the killer was disguised as a cop. The more you read, the more your realize the Hortmans should not have died if only local police had been smarter and acted faster after the first politician repelled the attack from the ... policeman at the door.
Most dunderheads think getting another gun is the answer. Protection! But when you see how good a shot Charlie's assassin was, I think less guns more time on the range might better protect gun enthusiasts.
"How did Robinson get long rifle on to campus, into building, up the stairs, without anyone noticing his rifle, and/or his weird limp?"
Utah is an open carry state. And Robinson had the rifle broken down. And "his weird limp"? Have you ever been on a college campus lately, this one has 40,000 Students. If they took action on every weirdo on campus, they'd need a police force the size of NYC.
Leftist judge will demand his immediate release in 3, 2, 1…
they didn't do the most preliminary security procedures, 200 yards out, he could have been spotted, but a rifle on a roof, well that would be problematic
I imagine a lot of the people attending will have a heightened sense of alert, like instinctive Spidey Senses, their eyes and ears subconsciously sharpened.
Nobody thought that anyone would assassinate a Conservative pundit who went around arguing with libtards on college campuses. Robinson threw his life away to kill a unremarkable guy who had political opinions. Charlie Kirk didn't even have a TV show. He had 1/100 the popularity of Rush Limbaugh.
People who follow politics knew who he was, but most people couldn't have picked Kirk out of a lineup before he was killed.
But that's the left. They're not only obsessed with politics, they're violent and full of hate. The left has always attracted weirdos and loners. The Left uses them as cannon fodder and shock troops. Now, they've discovered sexual oddballs who have a grudge against society. Just the kind who are perfect for violence and murder.
The guy may have been a rightie wanting to help. Infiltration this far ahead of the event isn’t really infiltration: once the site is built, then it gets locked down, everyone kicked out, and swept. That’s probably going to happen in the wee small hours tonight/tomorrow morning. With the real police up on post, this guy would be even more of a sore thumb than he was during the building phase with all kinds of contractors and caterers coming in and out.
The event will also have multiple concentric perimeters. These days the innermost perimeter will have bulletproof glass. And local cops won’t be allowed in or near that.
Yes there is a risk in doing such a large complex event on a compressed timeline, with no option to say “ya know what? I’m not bringing him here.” Remember that if it goes pear shaped and people are trying to crucify the USSS director. Cc, JSM
Democrat Party Terrorists are everywhere.
look at how many psychos openly proclaim their hatred, like you do about the Jews,
I think there was a Roman Emperor who was also killed by his bodyguards - cant remember his name though.
I hope Trump has gone through his SS detail with a fine tooth comb and verified and reverified everyone is a competent professional and not a leftist.
might have been in the year of the four emperors, or a century later with Commodus and Pertinax
"There are prominent historical examples of political figures killed by their own security guards."
Anwar Sadat
thats not actually right, they were a cell of Egyptian Jihad from the army,
Fort Collins Charlie Kirk gathering.
- we all stood up and cheered for the police at one point.
Unlike the corrupt Soros-funded democratic party - who defund them and de- moralize them.
The guy may have been a rightie wanting to help.
LOL. yeah, its possible. Anything is possible. And the Rightie's are stupid.
Temujin’s father (the historical one, not the commenter) was poisoned by supposed allies. CC, JSM
those too clever by half tropes,
I remember on the Magnum series, which riffed topical, they had two takes on the Sadat assasination, one it was KGB inspired, the other was it was part of a mercenary hit squad
Bellisario who was the show runner, a fmr marine, didn't have the whole story right, as it would turn out the Green Berets would hire one member of the cell Ali Mohammed, who would teach his tactics to Al Queda,
I do believe Rajiv Gandhi fell to such palace intrigues,
ot: OAC refused to vote for the anti-violence measure. 100 dems did vote for it.
Instead, AOC viciously attacked Charlei kirk and used her altered Kirk Quotes to call him a antisemite a racist and a fascist.
The Ryan Sculing show - Ryan read the Charlie Kirk Quotes out loud - they are not any of the things AOC insisted.
One guest on Ryan's show said - "I hope every top lawyer around the nation is on the phone with Erika Kirk right now ."
We will find about this guy is that he is either trans affiliated or a run-of-the-mill leftist who was inspired by the Fake News and Dem politicians to kill Trump.
"Hey Fascist Catch" - was etched by Charlie Kirks' assassin, on his bullet casings..
Every leftwing Democratic uses/used the word "fascist" daily - for over a decade - to describe Trump and any supporter of Trump.
that would be the most obvious choice,
"RCOCEAN II said...
Nobody thought that anyone would assassinate a Conservative pundit who went around arguing with libtards on college campuses. Robinson threw his life away to kill a unremarkable guy who had political opinions. Charlie Kirk didn't even have a TV show. He had 1/100 the popularity of Rush Limbaugh."
You say a lot of stupid shit, but this is Inga level. Charlie'starget was young voters, and guess what they don't do. Watch TV. He had a podcast called The Charlie Kirk Show.
Trump would not be POTUS if not for CK and TPUSA.
The way they're writing about security holes at this event almost makes one think they're trying to encourage people to come and take a shot.
Althouse said...
How is it possible to have enough security when malefactors are capable of attempting to infiltrate security — either by faking being a member of law enforcement or by managing to become a member?
narciso said...
thats not actually right, they were a cell of Egyptian Jihad from the army
...who infiltrated the armed forces and were marching, armed, in front of Sadat's grandstand.
This guy in Arizona merely pretended to be law enforcement who would form part of the security retinue.
Interesting that Pausanius's motivation arose from his same sex relationship with Philip, who outraged Pausanius by failing to avenge his victimization in a gang rape orchestrated by Philip's father in law Attalus.
Of course, there have always been rumors that Philip's son Alexander, the beneficiary of the assassination, had some sort of role.. Philip's son of course became Alexander the Great.
Peachy said...
Fort Collins Charlie Kirk gathering.
- we all stood up and cheered for the police at one point.
Unlike the corrupt Soros-funded democratic party - who defund them and de- moralize them.
Democrats defund them and attack them.
Then they SWAT their enemies.
Then they call the police whenever they think they will be useful.
Freedom is not free. Rights do not come without responsibilities.
@Curious George. You beat me to it. RCOCEAN comments reveal a complete ignorance of Charlie Kirk and his mission. What a doofus!
Peachy, the expression "Democrat Party terrorists" is redundant.
Indeed - the terrorist left - built by the democratic party - are targeting police and ICE agents with real deadly violence and other forms of intimidation - like Doxxing.
they act like the Montoneros who were the youth wing of the Peronists,
The Antifa-Democratics are doxxing family members of ICE agents, too.
In Colorado - the Corrupt democratics in power are stealthily forcing lawyers to sign "refusal to help ICE" documents at the on-line portal for lawyers to submit cases with the State.
Gov Polis(D) and his pack of D--liars - are doing everything they can to thwart ICE - and then lie to the camera --"oh no - Colorado is not a Sanctuary City-State" Just fucking liars.
RCOCEAN II said...
Nobody thought that anyone would assassinate a Conservative pundit who went around arguing with libtards on college campuses. Robinson threw his life away to kill a unremarkable guy who had political opinions. Charlie Kirk didn't even have a TV show. He had 1/100 the popularity of Rush Limbaugh.
oof. That's ignorant.
The current generation of teens and 20/30 year olds is the most "conservative" generation right now.
Without people 65+ plus and boomers democrats are doomed.
Charlie Kirk has an organization of primarily College students with millions of people in it. Charlie Kirk is the person most responsible for this political shift.
This is a good way to tell everyone you are old.
Eh I think Rcocean is largely right on sentiment though not on Kirk's reach. Charlie Kirk didn't anticipate getting shot by a sniper. If he had, he wouldn't have done an outside event at UVU because all the buildings are terraced and have multiple access points to easily climb on the roofs. Evidently, Ben Shapiro's security also didn't worry about snipers. He said he's no longer doing outside events.
It might have been Jewish money, or DEI hire blacks, the two groups Kirk has been negative on in clips I've seen so far. Not saint stuff.
@ Birches. In what regard is RCOCEAN correct on his Kirk sentiment?
dying while sharing your faith, is the definition of sainthood,
How is it possible to have enough security when malefactors are capable of attempting to infiltrate security — either by faking being a member of law enforcement or by managing to become a member?
Among people who know we understand that there is no way to be completely safe. If a group of people want to take you out and they are not completely retarded they will eventually find a way to do it.
You can't control the means.
You can only control the will.
But that is not as straightforward as the sentence makes it sound.
this is you trolling, but its repulsive,
it makes sense, what one does, is what matters, what Charlie did matters,
"..didn't even have a TV show.."
show the world,
that YOU are a senile old buffoon that still brags about using Window XP,
without using those words
Tim Walz yesterday: “we have go to get back to decency.”
Tim Walz two weeks ago: Telling audience how excited he’d be to see Trump dead.
D's - It's your party, pal.
Birches said...
Eh I think Rcocean is largely right on sentiment though not on Kirk's reach. Charlie Kirk didn't anticipate getting shot by a sniper. If he had, he wouldn't have done an outside event at UVU because all the buildings are terraced and have multiple access points to easily climb on the roofs. Evidently, Ben Shapiro's security also didn't worry about snipers. He said he's no longer doing outside events.
Snipers generally require institutional access or a skill set that is rather limited and most of the people who have it require a level of discipline that makes depravity unlikely.
Someone got the shooter on the roof twice.
They should have anticipated Universities as institutions aiding killers.
he is an evil hobbit,
rhhardin said...
It might have been Jewish money, or DEI hire blacks, the two groups Kirk has been negative on in clips I've seen so far. Not saint stuff.
If you are dumb enough to believe in soap opera morality you could say things like this.
in so far as Bill Ayers as wasp as they come, seems to be behind one of these funding networks,
The Praetorian Guard killed 10 empowers. One of the most notable was Caligula.
The left's tactics are to murder and intimidate.
why do people ignore the obvious trails, like ayers or neville singham, to enforce their own ignorance,
Hell Ann.. the SS knowingly left a roof unguarded so a sniper would try to kill Trump...
the secret service cheatham (sic) and her deputy,
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