Says Michael Barbaro, on today's episode of the NYT "Daily" podcast, "The Assassination of Charlie Kirk."
He's interviewing fellow NYT reporter Robert Draper, who'd written a profile of Kirk that was published last February, "How Charlie Kirk Became the Youth Whisperer of the American Right/Collecting donors, voters, TikTok viewers and high-powered friends on his way into Trump’s inner circle."
In today's podcast, Draper says: "... Kirk was sort of... an early avatar of the anti-wokeness that became so popular amongst conservatives later.... Certain college campuses where professors were denouncing Trump but also denouncing particular conservative schools of thought were saying that certain people should not be allowed to speak on that campus. And these kinds of things, I think rubbed some students — not all but certainly some — the wrong way. It seemed discordant with the notion of coming to campus and being able to associate with whomever you want and say whatever you want. Trump and particularly Kirk begin to play to those sentiments.... ... Kirk's argument is that it is the left that is suppressing dissent. They were, as you say, really the owners of the culture and thus the oppressors of any kind of countercultural notion."
Making the right feel counterculture — that's seems like quite an accomplishment, but the left made it possible by digging in so pervasively.
Anyway... I was also interested in the part about Rush Limbaugh. Draper, who interviewed Kirk 4 times for that profile, says that when Kirk was in high school, it was "the Obama era, and all of his classmates were big fans of Obama's.... And Kirk could see why they were, he could see why Obama was cool, why Obama had appeal, and why correspondingly the Republican party had its work cut out for him because they were seen as somewhat fossilized." At the time, "he loved Rush Limbaugh, and he would, during lunch hours, go sequester himself and listen to Limbaugh by himself. And I think he not only became enraptured by Limbaugh's arguments, but by the sort of cult of celebrity that Limbaugh had established as... this outrageous voice who would lampoon the left at every turn. This, to Kirk, seemed cool. If there was just some way to convince younger people of it...."
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I have written here before that the most counterculture thing is a 15 year old boy in a blue city public school reading the Bible in cafeteria while having lunch.
He was obviously successful, and that's why the left murdered him.
Kirk was right about College Campuses. Radical Left hothouses.
When I was active duty Army, an impressive young officer I knew would go out to his truck at lunch and read the Bible. He was a fine young man.
The NYT misses again. Looking for what was where it used to be.
Kirk was the best of us. He believed in discourse and rhetoric. He believed the best way to build a social contract was through debate and engagement and democratic processes.
All the leftists are doing right now is convincing people that they are not capable of debate, engagement or adhering to democratic principles.
Blue Sky is an absolute cesspool right now. TikTok is no better.
These people can’t be bothered to even pretend to support freedom.
His was an effective voice; that's why he was murdered. His absence will be a void that won't be filled. There won't be others to take his place - they just don't come along very often. The Left has accomplished a great deal with this killing, and it will be unchallenged. There won't be any great uprising or revolt against the left, and those who want to settle things by killing will just go on doing so. We live in a society where Antifa and their like can do any damned thing they please; don't you dare fight back, even with words. The reaction says it all: he got what he deserved, he had it coming. Indeed, that is the ethos of the political Left now.
Yes that message resonates because it comports with reality better than most messages college students hear. The growing realization that many "experts" and "professors" are full of shit should be encouraged in every new class that enters a college.
Guess who doesn't trust anyone over thirty now?
Matt Van Swol
@matt_vanswol
"They want us all dead.
For speaking up.
For saying something.
Free speech is being killed and we have to stand up for it, no one else will.
It’s you. It’s me.
No one is coming to save us.
Use your voice, stop being silent."
The rate of mental illness on the left is 2x the rate on the right. Furthermore, many on the left deny that mental illness exists, or they gaslight the innocent into developing mental illnesses. Don't blame the young "transgender" people for receiving quack diagnoses and harmful treatments that actually reveal a slew of bad doctors, bad parents, and bad teachers engaging in Munchausen's by Proxy.
Left-wing madness cannot end and will not end until there's a firm internal split and where coherent rules are enforced.
See Jonathan Haidt's "The Anxious Generation."
The WSJ is confirming what most of us knew from the start, the shooter left pro-trans and anti-fascist writing behind, on his ammo, and used a weapon that is not the dreaded and much mythologized AR platform.
We knew it would be a hate-crazed lefty and it is.
That the signs point to Trantifa is [chef's kiss] perfect, is it not?
Conservative philosophy is pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness under a Constitution that mitigates democratic/dictatorial progress.
To the delicate left - It's just so wrong to ever criticize... them.
It's just beyond the pale to have a negative thought or opinion about... them. You must be silent. You must obey.
To this author - Rush was "this outrageous voice who would lampoon the left."
eh - Rush had good arguments and was a lone voice in a sea of ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT, WaPo, LA TIMES single-track of pro-democrat party spin.
I used to listen to Rush - and he was pretty tame overall.
Listen to Jesse Kelly - he doesn't mince words. The left are communists and demons. I agree.
Back to Rush. - Rush used to often say - (paraphrase) "I'm just saying out loud what people already think."
And now that you have killed the best of us guess what is left.
Really what this shows is that in order to apply morals and good values to your relationship with those you disagree with there has to be a mutual understanding between all parties involved what those principles and values are.
The left does not respect our freedom and our rights to freely associate and express our opinions.
We will not have a free country that uses reasoned discourse to solve complex social issues until the progressive left is gone.
Now more of us, and more importantly more young men, will also speak their minds knowing it what "most people think." Courage is contagious.
The left could use "filled a much-needed gap" to at least show some humor.
We don't realize how good we have it, historically speaking. This means we're closer to a better society than we feel, but also that things could deteriorate more than we might expect.
"And it seems they were saying that the left at one point on college campuses was the counterculture, but around this time, it's pretty clear that it's just the culture in many of these campuses. And it feels like what's innovative about Kirk's pitches is that at this moment, conservatism can become the counterculture."
John Hasson @SonofHas
The shooter etched pro-transgender and anti-fascist messages into the bullet casings.
And THIS is how CNN frames it... "Scrawled with cultural phrases."
The Left is evil. Keep spinning for evil, NYTs. Maybe you can get another conservative killed.
When I was active duty Army, an impressive young officer I knew would go out to his truck at lunch and read the Bible. He was a fine young man.
One of my professors was a major in the Air Force Reserve who sometimes showed up in uniform when there was something happening with ROTC. He was among the most genuinely devout and decent men I ever knew. He had a Bible in his desk that he would read while we were taking tests or doing experiments. If all Christians were like him, the whole world would be Christian.
Kakistocracy said...
We don't realize how good we have it, historically speaking. This means we're closer to a better society than we feel, but also that things could deteriorate more than we might expect.
Nobody is going to miss the progressive movement or feel bad that they are gone.
Removing people who are anti-freedom is always good for freedom.
Deport the Italics!
why doesn't blogger fix this?
John Hasson @SonofHas
The shooter etched pro-transgender and anti-fascist messages into the bullet casings.
And THIS is how CNN frames it... "Scrawled with cultural phrases."
Welp.
That’s that.
Blue Sky is an absolute cesspool right now.
If I find out that someone I know in real life has a Blue Sky account, I cut all ties. Any business that has one will never see me darken their door.
Ron Winkleheimer said...
why doesn't blogger fix this?
People are not closing their tags.
I do find it interesting that they are allowing people to directly generate html code with text and they don’t have a closing script and they allow the comments to blend as a continuous block.
Look at the Insanity of the top of the Corrupt Democratic party.
Just. look.
Don't ever forget - Soros Owned
"People are not closing their tags."
I know that.
"I do find it interesting that they are allowing people to directly generate html code with text and they don’t have a closing script and they allow the comments to blend as a continuous block."
That is exactly what I am complaining about. That is an easy fix. I seem to recall that in the past if you didn't put a closing tag on a comment where you had an opening tag it would not let you post the comment. The current situation is ripe for an sql injection attack.
this is a test
yep, it works for bold too
stop
To speak, one must breathe. For a society to advance and prosper, the right to speak freely is the same as the right to breathe - the evidence of this for societies over the coast of time is indisputable, now.
Charlie Kirk was robbed of the latter in objection to the former. If you don't freely honor the right of free speech to others, then you forgo your right to breathe. That is how this malignant intolerance must be fought.
A friend today suggested that Kirk may have been a potential 2028 candidate for president.
FBI Person of interest photos.
I can guarantee people are closing their tags. Sometimes, somehow, the closing tags aren't being read.
Sorry. Looks like my bad on those fucking italics.
A friend today suggested that Kirk may have been a potential 2028 candidate for president.
He would have just turned 35, and the Republican bench is deep, so probably not. But he was certainly on everyone's radar for sometime in the next 30 years, and would have been a formidable candidate for any office.
The fix for italics or other HTML derangements:
Open a new comment with one < I > tag, close it with two consecutive < / I > tags.
Since it's become a topic, my experience is that the comment code still looks for an ending tag but it accepts anything with a / without verifying it is a properly formatted closing tag, and it's easy to miss that you entered i/ or b/.
"I can guarantee people are closing their tags. Sometimes, somehow, the closing tags aren't being read."
That should also be an easy fix.
here is some pseudo code for blogger programmers
declare a dictionary pairing keys as html beginning tags and values as ending html tags
when the user hits post scan the comment for the keys in the dictionary
if found scan for the corresponding value
if corresponding ending tag not found then do not allow the post
provide user an error message indicating that the required value was not found
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