That's from 1953 in the Catholic Times, the oldest appearance in print of the word "guyness," according to the OED, which defines "guyness" as "The quality, state, or condition of being a man, esp. with (typically humorous) reference to male stereotypical characteristics or interests, such as being uncomplicated, good-natured, uncomfortable with emotional issues, preoccupied with sport, gadgets, beer, etc."
August 23, 2025
"A guy is a man who is loyal to something, even if his loyalty is..mistaken..."
"Bishop Sheen..is not against Bad Guys. He is only against their badness: he is for their guyness... He is only a guy like the rest of us."
That's from 1953 in the Catholic Times, the oldest appearance in print of the word "guyness," according to the OED, which defines "guyness" as "The quality, state, or condition of being a man, esp. with (typically humorous) reference to male stereotypical characteristics or interests, such as being uncomplicated, good-natured, uncomfortable with emotional issues, preoccupied with sport, gadgets, beer, etc."
There's also an obsolete version of "guyness," from back in the 1800s, that meant "The quality or fact of having an odd or grotesque appearance." That's less odd than it might seem: the original lowercase "guy" was an effigy of Guy Fawkes.
That's from 1953 in the Catholic Times, the oldest appearance in print of the word "guyness," according to the OED, which defines "guyness" as "The quality, state, or condition of being a man, esp. with (typically humorous) reference to male stereotypical characteristics or interests, such as being uncomplicated, good-natured, uncomfortable with emotional issues, preoccupied with sport, gadgets, beer, etc."
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Just replace guyness with masculinity. The problem is more to do with women's war on masculinity.
Most people have noticed that most of our current problems in society come from 2 groups:
- white educated liberal women
- a very small percentage of criminals and crazy people enabled by white college educated women.
"uncomfortable with emotional issues,"
If by "emotional issues" we mean the drama that women make up in their heads that they label as "emotional labor" that has been pushed upon them by men, who simply refuse to do this "work," then sure.
A "guy" is a man who walks into a bar at the beginning of a joke.
“…reference to male stereotypical characteristics or interests…”
Have these changed since the 1950’s? Trying to understand the current expectations.
what is the context of the statement, evil behavior among men, is no synonymoous with their status as men, if they are drunkards violent, indulge in other sins,
He is only a guy like the rest of us
I’m uncomfortable with the lack of context. You mean guys who like boys?
"The quality or fact of having an odd or grotesque appearance."
Hey...
"Guyness" at work.
Stupid woman: "I am an AG. I am an AG!"
Male Police Officer: "I don't give a shit."
We have been putting up with stupid incompetent over credentialed dumbass white women for way too long.
Both of these women need to spend time in jail.
I love the guy at the host stand, begging for police to do something...anything. Guy hooked him up…
A guy is a complement to a gal and vice versa.
The good guys are gentlemen, and the good gals are ladies, in a reciprocal religion.
>"Bishop Sheen...is only a guy like the rest of us."<
I didn't know the man and I had respect for him. I know nothing of his sexual preferences and that subject is not part of this comment. It's just that - and perhaps I'm simply being primitive - for me, celibacy and "guyness" are damn close to mutually exclusive.
Democrats have tried to replace "Guyness" with Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama, Douglas Emhoff, Gavin Newsome, Joe Biden, Willie Brown etc.
This is why Democrat women are chosen for their ability to service and enable Chad and Tyrone. They are chosen because they have Daddy Issues.
This all comes down to the mismatch between the base emotions and impulses that helped us survive in small hunter gatherer groups hunting for food and avoiding predators that we developed over thousands of years and a modern society that is maybe 100 years old and that our base instincts and mental control systems are not prepared to handle.
"Stupid woman: "I am an AG. I am an AG!""
I just finished watching this. Good grief. I'd say "alcohol", but I didn't see any other signs (such as slurring their words), so I'm thinking these women just have a ridiculous sense of entitlement.
And what kind of "AG" thinks the police have to turn off the body cam at the command of a suspect?
Incredible.
What started it? Why did the restaurant ask them to leave? Were they belligerent?
Bill Clinton was a more attenuated version of Gary Hart (who seemed to be more selective in his attachments) politically he was as crazy as newsom is now, Hartpence seem to take his cues from Warren Beatty, who was a relative I think
She deserves to lose her job, not only for the incredibly bad judgment of refusing to leave when trespassed-warned, but for trying to use her presumed status as an "AyGee" to get out of something. The latter was a big no-no where I worked.
I grew up in a tight neighborhood, the grown-ups didn't call you a "guy" until you played ball or caught a fish in front of them.
"Guyness" and "gayness" apparently weren't mutually exclusive in those days, so long as one was on the down-low.
Are celibacy and "guyness" mutually exclusive? That depends on whether hitting a baseball or catching a fish is a sufficient proof of guyness or if you had to do all the p---y talk too. I'd suppose some fastidious but non-gay and non-celibate guys might have some trouble with that.
“I know a guy; you know a guy?”
Original Mike said...
What started it? Why did the restaurant ask them to leave? Were they belligerent?
8/23/25, 4:19 PM
Who cares? If a business or homeowner wants you off their property, you go.
It’s beyond ridiculous the restaurant has to call the cops to get these spoiled adults off their property.
"If a business or homeowner wants you off their property, you go."
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
A guy is loyal to his missus. A Mr. is loyal to his Mrs.
Boys don't grow up to be men, nor do girls grow up to be women.
They've gotta work at it.
I was part of a work group that was addressed by our boss as "Youse fuckin' guys".Think Joe Pesci.
Speaking as a former RC born in the 60s and so exposed (not that way!) to a few generations of priests:
RC Priests used to be macho. They were heterosexual, mostly followed their vows, so were probably in a constant state of incel frustration. A lot were probably bullied into discovering their vocations by families where sending the youngest son into the Church was the thing to do. Most of them were the product of single-sex RC education that in spite of (or because of) its many flaws taught boys to be men. And of course the de-facto ideology of the Church at that time made them feel like they were running the place. Tim Russert used to fondly recall priests shoving schoolboys up against lockers for the slightest offense. So I could see calling Fulton Sheen a guy - even a guy's guy.
Then after Vatican 2, RC priests became different. Priests of that generation have an accent in their voices. Not exactly a gay lilt; more a very relaxed tone that either reflects a more relaxed inner life, or the need to present that way. Look up a YouTube by Bishop Barron (whom I like, and who really does not like how V2 was implemented) to get a great example of the priest accent. Men of all walks of life were less macho by that time, and the priests were even less. Of course, many of them (more than the proportional percentage that made it into the pre-V2 priesthood) actually were gay. Also, the post-V2 priests were indoctrinated to be servant leaders and so dropped a lot of the macho act.
The priests that came in under John Paul 2 - basically Gen Xers and later - seem to have swung back toward machismo. JP2 himself was macho, with his skiing and hiking and stuff. The popes started to clarify that V2 is not a unilateral disarmament - that the church still has power and authority. Certainly the priests of this generation are not as macho as Russert's locker-shovers. But they are getting there.
Quis maior macho est? Could be Fulton Sheen.
RR
JSM
RC Priests used to be macho.
Think of Karl Malden in On The Waterfront.
And of course, my song lyric syndrome kicked in:
(Body) Body (Wanna feel) Wanna taste Christ's body, baby?
(Such a thrill) Such a thrill, Christ's body yeah-yeah
(Wanna touch) Wanna touch Christ's body, baby?
(It's too much) It's too much, Christ's body yeah-yeah
(Check it out my) Check it out Christ's body, body
(Don't you doubt) Don't you doubt Christ's body, body
(Talkin' bout my) Talkin' bout Christ's body, body
(Check it out my) Check it out Christ's body
Every priest wants to be a macho, macho priest
Servin up a great big eucharistic feast
Matins in the mornings, go man go
Workin at the altar, patens glow
You can best believe that he's a macho priest
Ready to absolve you, man from beast
Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho priest (Macho priest)
I've got to be a macho priest
I've got to be a macho, macho priest
I've got to be a macho! Ow!
RR
JSM
Paracord makes excellent GUY wires. Three of them have held a 50 foot mast upright through ice and wind for nine years now.
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