Writes John02116 in the comments section to the Megan McArdle column, "The ACLU bet big on a trans rights case. Its loss was predictable. A Supreme Court ruling shows trans advocates failed to see the fragility of the liberal consensus" (WaPo)(free-access link so you can see the big disconnect between the column and the comments).
An even more strongly worded comment comes from JR Colorado: "Please, WaPo, stop referring to LGBTQ+ as a monolithic group. Many gay and lesbians do not consider ourselves part of the LGBTQ+. We’ve been turned into pawns for the TQ, who are in turn are destroying the many advances in gay rights over recent decades. The two have nothing to do with each other, and the TQ has made me as a gay man very resentful of their overreach, aggressively mean and illogical stance on women and children. I want nothing to do with TQ and I don’t care if they call me transphobic."
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"some retrograde heterosexual gender role."
We spent decades explaining to children that its okay for boys to play with dolls and okay for girls to play baseball, to freaking out and pumping a these children full of hormones.
How is this not going backwards?
Even as adults, there is an inflection point in maturity at about 25 when they may come to regret that "too surgery" at 18. But I guess it's not any more grotesque than other medical wonders of the age.
Homosexuals are in the transgender spectrum. #NoJudgment #NoLabels
Well, "JR Colorado" wins the thread before it gets off the ground.
How is this not going backwards?
It's progressive (i.e. [unqualified] monotonic function, process), not a wicked solution, or political congruence ("=") to shoehorn a liberal conceit.
Gender (e.g. sexual orientation): masculine, feminine. Trans- refers to a state or process of divergence. A Rainbow in human context is albinophobic. #HateLovesAbortion
Rich Guggenheim - created "Gays Against Groomers" - and he is, of course, now a target of hate by the corrupt left and their pro-trans /pro-child abuse surrogates. Local corrupt democratic pro-child abuse hack media especially vile.
Another WaPo comment, “ We lost an election because of this nonsense! And, a Rapist got elected!”
Only a TDS person would believe Trump is a rapist.
Agree with both comments. I’m still surprised that shortly after making a movie about the life of Alan Turing that included UK’s controversial practice of forcing castration of gays; castrating young boys became a normal activity supposedly supported by the community. None of it ever made sense. I see I’m not alone. Many of us were seeing things for what they were.
Colorado Democrats in the house and senate - stand shoulder to shoulder with pro-trans child abusers.
I have been pointing out for quite a while that the LGB and the TQ+ are not friends and that the TQ+ is going to get the LGB wrecked.
The LGB has been speaking out on this for a while and even the WAPO is going to have to deal with it.
Just like the Kennedy Democrats left the democrat party so is the LGB going to split from the TQ+.
And yes the + is absolutely pedophiles and groomers which is the majority of the TQ+. Nobody likes the current democrat party except predators, thugs and thieves.
Dave Begley said...
Another WaPo comment, “ We lost an election because of this nonsense! And, a Rapist got elected!”
Only a TDS person would believe Trump is a rapist.
They also supported Biden who absolutely was a rapist.
While homosexuals, the purer bisexual, are in the spectrum, they are not simulated through surgical or medical corruption, not generally recruited through grooming for love or psycho-atric profit (PP).
Biden who absolutely was a rapist.
And probable pedophile, incestuous, licit under Democratic law. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #LoveWins
Levine's Dreams of Herr Mengele are not exactly politically congruent ("="), are they? This deserves a progress tag to be Democratic, Equivocal, and Inclusive.
Transvestites are transsocial are not in the spectrum, just socially liberal.
This is the fundamental point of the issue. Gender confusion is a natural part of the human condition. Some boys wish they were girls and some girls wish they were boys. Perhaps they should be encouraged to explore their life with all of the original equipment installed at birth but to go along with the desire to act like the opposite sex. It's understandable that they want to make their fantasy a reality when in fact they are opening themselves up to a lifetime nightmare. Part of this desire to make a permanent change is probably fueled by the high level of teasing and shame and guilt associated with a general intolerance for people with this condition.
Way to address it is not through medicine but through social acceptance that people are different and some different people appear to be very weird. If more normies accepted this weirdness perhaps fewer people would be so desperate as to seek permanent medical changes to their bodies.
Rather than wallow in Diversity (i.e. class-disordered ideologies) to be equivocal, a diversity of individuals, minority of one is equitable. #HateLovesAbortion
JR Colorado ends his comment “I want nothing to do with TQ and I don’t care if they call me transphobic."
And it turns out that calling JR Rowling, and women like her, a “TERF” doesn’t work either.
Andrew Sullivan has been beating this drum for 5+ years. There are the LGBs and the TQIAA++. They are not one and the same. A lot of mainstream gays want nothing to do with medically transing kids. They see it as the barbaric practice it is.
The Diversity Industrial Complex (DIC), not to be confused with its Democratic patrons, is no longer a viable Choice... uh, choice. Abort. Sequester.
There are the LGBs and the TQIAA++. They are not one and the same.
While homosexuals and bisexuals are in the transgender spectrum, they are congruent ("="), but not equal to other queer states.
A colleague recently commented on an NYT article.
I wish the media would stop lumping together trans issues with LGB. They are erroneously bundled together in every article. Trans has quite literally nothing to do with LGB. It is an entirely distinct phenomenon. Many LGB people, myself included, are tired of this appropriation. Even on the supreme court case, the plaintiff repeatedly tried to include trans in with LGB and present it as a civil rights issue. This is a clever rhetorical device but, again, trans has nothing to do with us and many LGB people resent the appropriation of our movement.
Gender affirming "care", brought to you by the sons and daughters of the experts that gave us (routine) electroshock therapy and lobotomies.
Oddly enough those last two are now looked upon with horror. I'm sure, just sure, the trans surgery won't face this eventually (/sarc).
I can see lesbians and gays being opposed to the transgender agenda, but it seems that gay people and queer people intersect more than a little. Lesbians, maybe not so much, but at the very least, they have common cause.
To me this highlights the use of alternative lifestyles as a means to disrupt societal norms and to replace the traditional family with "the village," especially in the case of transgenderism.
Been saying this for some time. For the reasons specified by the WaPo commenter(s), TQ+ ideology is the last bastion of "acceptable homophobia."
... and we'll have a gay old time on the Isle of Lesbos after transitioning the ocean blue.
"Daylight come and me wan' go home"
When you go too far, there's pushback.
Simulants are not couplets are not couples... but are congruent on the Democratic farm. A fetus... fetish, to be sure.
Using my best Roy Scheider voice: "You're gonna need another flag."
"Perhaps they should be encouraged to explore their life with all of the original equipment installed at birth but to go along with the desire to act like the opposite sex."
Howie was Holly from Miami, F-L-A!
With the joke out of the way, I agree with Howard's comment 100%.
The Gap Band - You Dropped A Bomb On Me
A dual-use tune that seems strangely at home in the context of the transgender spectrum schism, too.
I feel like John's highlighted comment is consistent with what I have believed. There is no logic to claiming 'conversion therapy' is always wrong while claiming 'gender affirming care' is always right when applied in the same circumstances.
..."A Supreme Court ruling shows trans advocates failed to see the fragility of the liberal consensus..."
They're in big trouble now, they're acting like Republicans.
The pulse of the transition was measured when a bisexual was excluded from playing homosexual games. Sharing is caring?
Civil unions for all consenting adults. #NoJudgment #NoLabels #LoveIncorporatedWins
"...that suggests that they may have been born in the wrong bodies if they don't fit some retrograde heterosexual gender role."
There is so much conservative thinking within "progressive," yet they are blind to it. The desperation to fit into one of two boxes is one example. The pro abortion movement is the same way. No access to birth control? There a numerous things two horny people can get up to without risking pregnancy. Still, progressives seem really hung up on penis in vagina sex ONLY, similar to how conservatives can get hung up on 'missionary only'. FFS!
A lot of Gs are closer to Ts than they think. What else could explain drag shows?
Homosexuals are transgender in roles. Bisexuals are transgender in time. Simulants adopt a bifurcated gender to appease homosexual partners with a heterosexual kink. Heterosexuals: male and female sexes, masculine and feminine genders are selection of choice by Nature through evolutionary fitness. Political congruence (e.g. couplet "=" couple) is a sociopolitical hallucination filled with womb farms and sperm banks to treat gender dysphoria. So, let's release liberal pretensions, curb phobic progressions, and have a gay old time as individuals and in civil unions for all consenting adults.
The transsocials are entertaining children. Things that make you go hmm.
Smilin' Jack,
Good question. Although Drag Bingo, Drag Brunch, Drag trivia is becoming a cheap attraction for bars and some restaurants outside the usual Lefty cities. I heard a Righty talk show host say it's just knee slappin' fun a la Klinger from MASH. But I've had to cover LGBTQ+/-&@ festivals and the drag quotient has a sort of solemn vibe there.
Kids are increasingly identifying in these categories. The cultural/entertainment embrace certainly has something to do with that. Psych and medical practitioners have predilections and/or incentives to lean into this.
The "born this way" angle doesn't mesh well with "gay for the stay" prison behavior.
So normalized has gay become, Dave Rubin announced upon becoming a father, "We had a baby!!"
The spectrum was blemished when homosexuals et al were normalized in a short sale exploiting the principle of congruence ("=") prosecuted with liberal license under the Pro-Choice religion in progressive sects wallowing in DEIst ideology with Democratic patronage. It's over? Maybe, baby.
I disagree with the claim that homosexuals are on a spectrum of transgenderism. It kind of misses the point of what a homosexual is, that is, a woman who is sexually attracted to another woman and a man who’s attracted to another man sexually. They’re not confused about their own gender identity or wish to be the opposite gender or different body.
Or you should also claim that heterosexuals are on the spectrum of transgenderism if you acknowledge that we’re all a mix of male and female qualities, not completely stereotypical male or female in our personal expression. There are straight men who enjoy activities which are more associated with women and vice versa. You could call them gender non-conforming but not seriously transgender. Likewise, a gay man can totally prefer typical male gender activities rather than feminine things. The gay football player, the lipstick lesbian, are not on the spectrum of transgender.
Hobbies and interests are in a different category from sexual activity.
I truly believe that there are people who want a "lifetime nightmare". Munchasuen with or without, it makes them feel special and entitled.
Gender refers to sex-correlated attributes (e.g. sexual orientation). Trans- refers to a state or process of divergence. Transgenderism has no redeeming value to society or humanity. However, any judgments and labels of individual character are suspect and are a progression of DEIst ideology.
While there is no viable cause to celebrate transgenderism, there is no "burden" to deny couplets, and all consenting adults, civil union.
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1936859502441050163
"Hobbies and interests are in a different category from sexual activity." True, but transgender has nothing to do with sexual orientation or sexual activity.
"While there is no viable cause to celebrate transgenderism, there is no "burden" to deny couplets, and all consenting adults, civil union. "
Tell that to the cake shop and the photographer that find themselves battling the State. It might work, if 'civil unions' were limited to civil instruments like wills, trusts, employee spousal benefits, etc. The problem is that it's never enough, for many. There's always the psycho that demands not only passive acceptance, but outright ongoing recognition and endorsement from people that just want to be left alone, with their beliefs and institutions intact. I'm sick of the demands that we must attend the parade and cheer.
When gays and lesbians take on gendered roles in the relationship, that's a bit on the trans spectrum.
TQ+ is destroying women's rights via the assault on Title IX, and gay rights are threatened. How healthy can anything be that wrecks everything it touches?
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