Great episode. Full transcript here.
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May 19, 2025
"So, but [Jolly] West himself said, oh, I never experimented on a human being, just the elephant. He would even make jokes about the elephant..."
".... because it was the one thing people knew. And he would say, oh yeah, it, it would sort of, it was his calling card and he used it as kind of a jokey thing. But he always denied any connection to this CIA.... You know, even in the Church Committee, you could see the connection because they revealed that the University of Oklahoma had been receiving CIA money. And West had a special office for him built there.
He was hired there mysteriously when they wanted to move at what he wanted to build what he called this free zone of experiment, where he could give LSD, hypnosis, and sleep deprivation in combined doses, you know, in whatever increments he wanted to adjust. He was gonna build that out at the Air Force base. And he was all set to go. And I even had receipts and papers and a lot of correspondence in his files about this...."
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Or you could listen to Joe Rogan's latest fawning interview with Rick Doblin, whose victims of such experiments used to (and likely still do) regularly disappear from New College of Florida as Rick jetted back to Swizerland to avoid consequences when the shit hit the fan. Daddy protected him. I drove a few of his victims to the nuthouse myself. They didn't recover. Now he gets millions in funding to pretend he can cure a miniscule group of drug-seeking veterans. We're still paying for this utter fraud. I wonder how many lives he's destroyed to date.
And our school was, rather surprisingly now, founded by military spooks seeking the nation's best mathematicians and scientists, and psychedelic research was built into some faculty. What they got was a pile of fucked-up youth being subsidized by taxpayers to blow their own brains out.
Our Intelligence Community is always looking out for us.
Human, animal, and plant life.
An Astonishing, heartbreaking 3 hours, it should be on everyone's calendar to listen to.
"Our Intelligence Community is always looking out for us."
That's what I tell myself every time I notice the two cameras staring out of my dashboard at my face as I drive; why my car needs binocular vision of my face while I'm driving, I don't know.
Scott Adams "simultaneous sip" always bothered me, from a mind control and persuasion perspective. Ukrainian nazis would have school children jump up and down and have them shout "Who's not jumping is a Russian!" It's in the documentary "Ukraine on Fire" about the propaganda efforts that went into preparing Ukrainians for the war they had planned with Russia, starting with schoolchildren.
Sped it up to 1.55x. Pretty chilling discussion.
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