April 3, 2025
"These men are all caught with their pants down, and Theissen marvels at how well-endowed they are."
That's the top-rated comment at Marc Thiessen's Washington Post column "The Signal chat’s big takeaway? Trump has built an effective team. Americans got a fly-on-the-wall view of a group working together to execute the president’s policy."
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Are these rubes still talking about this? Yikes.
Imagine having to argue the traditional argue that Democrats are the intellectual party. I don’t think anyone’s gonna buy that anymore…
I watched the Commerce Secretary today. He's firm. Trump is going to change the US economy. Trump is also resolute. After he was nearly killed, he is even more determined.
Well endowed - LOL. You just wrote the next Maureen Dowd column.
The only interesting things about the kerfluffle are (1) is Signal insecure. Did Goldberg or someone else hack the system? and (2) Did Waltz let Goldberg in deliberately. And if so, why?
"an effective team" They argue sensibly and seem to think of themselves as a team. How effective they are remains to be seen--results, not discussions, count.
"caught with their pants down" Even accepting the ridicule, it's interesting that the Trump team on its worst day does better than Biden on his best. Progress.
I don't know if WaPo has a voting feature for their commentary, but I'm sure the women and gays who mostly read it really loved that one.
The only mistake I see on the Trump team was trusting the Signal app. That was dumb. They should have moved that discussion to a more secure forum.
The thing is stuff like Signal and group texting on phones didn’t really exist about a decade ago, and today it is the normative way for group discussions. Like document storage in Iron Mountain and IT systems running on COBOL, our government is slow to adapt to modern conveniences, and for good reason, it is often less secure. However, we need to adapt and mistakes will be made during the adaptation until things become secure and reliable again.
So the WP is still beating that dead horse, huh?
That quip had to come from a woman. (Not to establish a theme today.)
"Another sign that this was a calculated move was the fact that these messages sent in the group chat are long. It was odd how fully-formed the texts were crafted, as if bullet points on the ideas and policy goals for the administration. This kind of detailed discussion is usually reserved for foreign policy strategy meetings, not GC comms where all members are familiar with the material. The stark declaration that Europe cannot defend global shipping through these waters is sobering news to the average Euro not paying attention."
This seems to be what Althouse tended to think too. I found it fairly persuasive.
https://jesterpolitics.com/2025/03/27/signalgate-is-a-masterclass-in-the-application-of-useful-idiots/
Imagine being so indoctrinated and brainwashed from marinating in Newsmax, breitbart and Fox News that you pretend this incompetent shit is normal.
@TeaBagHag, yes Hillary Clinton keeping a server filled with thousands of classified emails in a bathroom closet is not competent or normal. Glad we agree on things and stuff.
After Trump brews the tea, liberals reuse the discarded bags. #NoJudgment #NoLabels
Haggis in teh baggis.
RideSpaceMountain said...
"@TeaBagHag, yes Hillary Clinton keeping a server filled with thousands of classified emails in a bathroom closet is not competent or normal. Glad we agree on things and stuff."
In Hillary's case, the private server was not a question of her competence, it was a reflection of her imperious arrogance. She believe that she could run State Dep't "business" away from the probing scrutiny of FOIA and subpoenas, and destroy the embedded evidence any time she wished. And amazingly, she was right! So far.
Well said, chuckle fuck:
In THIS CURRENT case, using the Signal App was not a question of their competence, it was a reflection of their imperious arrogance. They believed that they could run State Dep't "business" away from the probing scrutiny of FOIA and subpoenas, and destroy the embedded evidence any time she wished. And amazingly, they was right! So far.
Say, that wasn't Alec Baldwin commenting, was it?
Sure Tea Bag, Hillary's motivation for creating her own personal server and the Trump team's motivation for using an app embedded in their Gov't-issued phone are the same. Yeah, that's right, just the same.
baghdadbob said, "In Hillary's case, the private server was not a question of her competence..."
Oh yes it was. The most competent thing Queen AWFL ever did was marry Bill, and it has been downhill for that thrice time loser ever since. Her entire life's achievement is one massive matrimonial springboard. It should shock no one that ditz actually thought keeping a server where the towel-cloths are kept was a good idea.
"Wiped? Like with a cloth?" - The Empress of Little Rock
This is a hell of a judo move, making current malfeasance/ incompetence the fault of Hilary Clinton,.
You fuckers are shameless. Now do the crashing of the world economy.
marbles in her mouth?
beware of festering gob
look out world it’s hag
I don't think "noticing how well endowed they are" is the put down the left thinks it is.
Well endowed? Does that mean that the guys on the call were wealthy and financially secure? Or does it mean that "Big Balls" from Team DOGE was on the call?
The ‘caught with your pants down’ metaphor takes my mind to the literal if sophomoric scene of CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin caught with his pants down on a zoom call with his colleagues. It wasn’t a signal chat either, it was on video.
Now, to run with your example; imagine if all of Toobin’s colleagues and the hack partisans were pretending like it was perfectly normal. And then some dipshits justify his masturbation on camera, by referring to the time some lady’s slip was showing, 15 years ago.
Has the problem been fixed?
Was the mission compromised?
Was there any serious damage to ongoing security?
If the answers are No, Yes and Yes, we have a problem.
If the answers are Yes, No, and No, then chalk it up as a learning experience and move on. And Thiessen's point is entirely appropriate.
TeaBagHag said...
Now, to run with your example; imagine if all of Toobin’s colleagues and the hack partisans were pretending like it was perfectly normal. And then some dipshits justify his masturbation on camera, by referring to the time some lady’s slip was showing, 15 years ago.
The problem is that you don’t know what you are talking about. In this situation where you have information that you need to have secure to protect operations you necessarily have to have high side and low side conversations. You still need to have spaces where people who are not read in can contribute.
These signal conversations were clearly low side conversations and happened within a well established framework for compartmentalization of information.
The people who think that this was a demonstration of incompetence are just demonstrating their ignorance.
The people who think that what Hillary did is the same are showing their stupidity.
The hypocrisy is rich!
imagine that the party that flogged the dead horse of “but but but …her emails!” for years, now wanted to move on, in less than a week, from a far more serious breach.
Achilles, is Barack Obama’s tan suit in the room with you right now?
That's the top rated comment? For a non-scandal scandal ginned up by a media looking for a mouse crumb to slight the Trump administration. The same media that feigned surprise over the cognitive disability of Biden.
I thought they had a duty to inform their readers, not manipulate them. Maybe their readers like being manipulated.
TeaBagHag said...
"The hypocrisy is rich!
imagine that the party that flogged the dead horse of “but but but …her emails!” for years, now wanted to move on, in less than a week, from a far more serious breach."
but but but...her emails was always a popular but stupid deflection TeaBagHag, and I hope you know it.
Again, the key issue was not about her mishandling classified material (her "emails"), although that was an element. It was about creating a private server to avoid oversight and FOIA. It demonstrated a conscious effort to conceal her SoS "business." Do you really not see the problem there?!
TeaBagHag said...
The hypocrisy is rich!
imagine that the party that flogged the dead horse of “but but but …her emails!” for years, now wanted to move on, in less than a week, from a far more serious breach.
Your stupidity and ignorance does not make it hypocrisy.
You don’t know what you are talking about. I have had a clearance and I have been in these situations. We had NIPR and SIPR. These signal chats are just low side discussion space. This is absolutely normal in a compartmentalized information space.
You can bleat and moan all you want. Being loud and stupid and ignorant is your only way to argue this.
Hillary essentially downloaded information from SIPR and moved it to low side space.
The signal chats were always low side space.
The left thinks what she did is the same as the signal chat because they don’t know anything and they are happy to flaunt their ignorance like idiots.
"TeaBagHag said...
"The hypocrisy is rich!"
Hillary's was willful and persistent. The Signal mistake was negligent and episodic. Surely you can see the difference, leading to different proportional reactions.
The Biden administration also authorized the use of Signal. There were advisories about how it should and shouldn't be used, but we don't know if those guidelines were really followed. Similarly, we don't know if Walz's use of the app went further than we've already found out.
Does the use of the signal app on government-issued phones mean that the discussions are not eventually part of government archives? Do we know that? We do know that thousands of Hillary Clinton's emails will never become part of government archives.
Is it likely that government officials deliberately leaked internal discussions, with their reproaches of Europe, with the intent of making the administration look good? That's still most unlikely.
I understand perfectly; MAGAt apologists have no sense of shame and will ignore anytging that brings dishonor on their orange lord and savior
Not true, 'Ol Bag. My sense of shame is directly tied to whether or not I perceive myself to have erred, and if recalling worse fumbles from your 'team' is wrong, then I don't wanna be contrite.
It is kinda sad watching people descend into petulant whining and stamping of little feet when they realize their limitations and ignorance are apparent to everyone.
"I watched the Commerce Secretary today. He's firm. Trump is going to change the US economy. Trump is also resolute."
Also, the Secretary of Commerce doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Trump's tariffs will translate into a 2.3 percentage point increase to overall inflation this year, according to new estimates from the Yale Budget Lab — or about a $3,800 impact for the average household.
https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/where-we-stand-fiscal-economic-and-distributional-effects-all-us-tariffs-enacted-2025-through-april
the strikes have driven iran to retreat from support for the Houthis, so how is this a problem
Sorry, Coprokid. These tariffs won't cause any inflation. No money is being printed.
Apologies for screwing up the echo chamber.
All evidence points to petulant whining and the nursing of grievances as a major MAGAt kink.
My reading of the signal conversation in the editorial is that JD Vance was the least endowed participant. If I was to bet on who in the Trump administration is going to take over in 2028 I would put my money on Pete Hegseth. His hairstyle will clearly defeat that of Gavin Newscum
TeaBagHag said...
Apologies for screwing up the echo chamber.
All evidence points to petulant whining and the nursing of grievances as a major MAGAt kink.
You shouldn’t apologize for challenging other people’s ideas and opinions.
You don’t even need to apologize for being ignorant and not understanding what you are talking about.
You would be better served to learn from people who know more about a subject than you do. That means you will look less stupid in the future.
Ok, I’m in the mood to learn something.
When I’m jerking off my fellow MAGAt mouthbreather, should I stay away from inconvenient facts totally or just twist them into narratives that fit my delusions?
@Howard, my picks for who's running in 2028, not in order:
- JD Vance
- Ron DeSantis
- Josh Hawley (the reeeeeeeeing shall be marvelous)
- Glenn Youngkin
- Marco Rubio
It will probably be a crowded field, but regardless, the likely winner will need Trump's endorsement to do so.
well that would be impossible for them, recall when there was an assasination of an ambassador by al queda, they looked away,
According to the NY Post, Israel provided the U.S. with critical intelligence from an on-the-ground source in Yemen that was later leaked as part of the SignalGate scandal.
In the Signal messages, national security adviser Mike Waltz told top Trump administration officials that intelligence had a “positive ID” of the Houthis’ “top missile guy” entering a building that was hit in the US airstrikes.
The revelation about the Israeli source comes as the Trump administration is trying to fend off accusations that classified information was shared in the leaked Signal messages.
SECDEF Whiskey Pete denied that intelligence was revealed during Signal Gate 1, but he lied because the date, time and order of forces used were discussed.
Tulsi Gabbard (whose endowments I wish we could have shared) told a Senate Committee: “Senator, I’ll reiterate that there was no classified material that was shared.”
Somewhere the point was missed that public communications such as Signal and GMail are not permitted to be used for official government forums. Who can ever forget Hillary?
And speaking of endowments, Donald Trump tapped former acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker as his ambassador to NATO. Whitaker (who temporarily replaced Jeff Sessions in 2018) was also a cartoonish, grifting dope who shilled for a company that hawked time-travel cryptocurrencies, Bigfoot dolls, and toilets specially designed for men with big dicks.
who can forget when Hillary and Colin Powell were both hacked by a Romanian with a cheap rig, they pretended that wasn't real for three years,
actually almost every principal including john brennan was hacked in the course of the obama administration,
Rhonda Santis is the one person on your list that could potentially lose to Pete Buttigieg.
Althouse means "it's not a bug it's a feature". Men, stop treating it like a bug.
@Howard, DeSantis - for all his faults - is not losing to the world's most well-known power bottom. Take it to the bank.
It's called "Big Dick Energy."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_dick_energy
Those comments are LIT!
RideSpaceMountain said...
@Howard, my picks for who's running in 2028, not in order:
- JD Vance
- Ron DeSantis
- Josh Hawley (the reeeeeeeeing shall be marvelous)
- Glenn Youngkin
- Marco Rubio
It will probably be a crowded field, but regardless, the likely winner will need Trump's endorsement to do so.
All career politicians. Objective failures at life.
We can do better.
"Trump's tariffs will translate into a 2.3 percentage point increase to overall inflation this..."
1) Demonstrates complete lack of understanding of what inflation is, never mind what causes it.
2) Translated into something coherent - "people will have to pay more for things (at least initially) because of the tariffs", one is left to wonder why that same concern never - and I mean *never*, comes up when the Left relentlessly pushes for increasing corporate tax rates, which have exactly the same effect as tariffs.
...Then by all means, feel free to provide your bracket for 2028's November madness.
Actually, I take that back. Raising tariffs and corporate tax hikes share two common traits - they increase costs to consumers and bring in more revenue to the government. But then tariffs come with a bunch of other redeeming benefits, like bringing industry back home and providing negotiating power with other countries that can eventually more than offset the initial costs, that corporate tax hikes completely lack.
(In fact, corporate tax hikes have the opposite of the beneficial effect of tariffs, driving industry and investment out of the country.)
Good little sheep.
If Trump shot you in the face, you’d compliment his aim on your way out.
RideSpaceMountain said...
...Then by all means, feel free to provide your bracket for 2028's November madness.
Any of those men with Elon Musk on that Bret Baier interview would be better.
TeaBagHag said...
Good little sheep.
If Trump shot you in the face, you’d compliment his aim on your way out.
4/3/25, 4:51 PM
No, moron. More like, if Trump and Musk saved you from being robbed blind, you'd shoot them in the face and accuse them of being the thieves... Because you are a braindead, libtard, piece-of-shit Democrat Party member.
Yesterday, three NSC people were fired. I'm thinking they figured out how Goldberg got on the chat.
I note in passing that Signal messages, while encrypted in transmission, is readily recorded. And can be decrypted at leisure later using the encryption keys provided by Signal, say, to the NSA. Just sayin' there are no real secrets, ever, that remain secrets.
Fascists usually are pretty well endowed with...fascism.
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