“In this class, we’re going to flip the script,” [said sociologist Jane Ward to her students on the first day of class]. “It’s going to be a place where we worry about straight people. Where we feel sympathy for straight people. We are going to be allies to straight people.”...
Flipping the script is a good approach to studying the topic, and the topic is worthy of study. However, I don't like being directed to "worry" or "feel sympathy" or "be allies." I'd look at the subject head on. But neutrality is cruel, and women want to present as empathetic.
The online world seems to get weirder and more retrograde about heterosexuality every day. Idealized masculinity has become more aggressive, more jacked up, and also more high maintenance... while femininity gets ever “softer,” more nurturing and domestic, and somehow still more sexy....
The rise of transgenderism fits in right here but is not discussed in the article.
In 2019, the gender scholar Asa Seresin coined the term heteropessimism to describe straight women’s “performative” expressions of regret, embarrassment, and hopelessness about their hetero lives. (It is performative, Seresin writes, not because it is insincere, but because it is “rarely accompanied by the actual abandonment” of straight relationships.)
I add my "performative (the word)" tag.
Ward refers to all this anguish as “the tragedy of heterosexuality”.... She finds that straight relationships are full of contradictions, antagonism, and boredom; they are “erotically uninspired,” paralyzed by “punishing” gender expectations, and burdened by countless daily injustices. The common narrative about gay relationships and gay life, Ward writes, is that it’s a difficult path, and she admits it certainly can be hard. But she believes straight women actually have it worse — that the cards are fully stacked against them....
Ward is a product of her own heteropessimism.... Ward dated boys in high school and college and considered herself straight until grad school, when she broke up with her boyfriend and hooked up with her female best friend. In terms of pure attraction, she felt bisexual, but the more she considered it, the more she thought, Why would I ever settle for people who I don’t have basic value alignment with, which is most men?
“Chosen,” she told me, was not the exactly right word for the life she’d ended up with. It was more that she had “cultivated queerness.”...
In other words: not born that way.
Recently, she’s been amused to learn that Gen Z has a hashtag that refers to “compulsory heterosexuality” — the idea that women are socially conditioned to be straight, a concept she’d been teaching for years, originated by Adrienne Rich....
When we spoke, data had just come out showing that more and more people are identifying as queer.... “That’s just so fascinating,” she said. “Because it’s like, ‘Well, do you think something’s in the water?’ Or is it possible that young people are choosing another way?”...
Maybe RFK Jr. will check that out. I can picture him prioritizing the hypothesis that there is literally something in the water.
[Straight women, Ward says, should have] to answer the same questions that gay people have been forcibly confronted with for so long: What propels them toward the opposite sex, despite all the difficulty? And what does being straight do for them?
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It will be difficult to rid our higher ed of people like this instructor who perceive their job as advocacy and not education. I see conflicts ahead...
I am so happy that I went to college in the 80s - perhaps the last sane time to go to school. This shit is psychotic and this will not end well. Zoomers are identifying as gay or weird at astronomical rates but are also being diagnosed as mentally unwell at even higher percentages.
One conflict is the obvious race/sex/orientation discrimination that this lesbian teaching about heteronormativity presents. After all, many a "black ally" who happens to be white have been excluded from teaching Black Studies. Men are routinely excluded from teaching Women Studies. Ditto Chicano Studies. Etc.
So I am surprised at the brazen intrusion of a person who "doesn't know what it's like" to live as a hetero, daring to teach students about it.
How do I know that I’m not homosexual? None of the quoted sections of that article make any sense to me nor match what I’ve experienced in the world.
"So I am surprised at the brazen intrusion of a person who "doesn't know what it's like" to live as a hetero, daring to teach students about it."
That's not true of Jane Ward.
Modern American education in a nutshell: Know-nothings conditioning younger know-nothings to know even less.
"It was more that she had “cultivated queerness.”..."
"In other words: not born that way. "
@Althouse, your response strikes me as a non sequitur. 'Cultivating' is, by its nature, not innate.
Here's my take on the subject of the post. Nobody's perfect. That's just as true of hetero relationships as it is of whatever other flavor you examine. Using imperfection as a rationale for calling 'straight' a form of deviance is intellectually dishonest.
Relationships between men and women have been difficult since Eve and Adam. Welcome to the real world. The real question for men is "Why come back for more?"
Think of this women's boyfriend. He tried to please her, and she just breaks it off because she wants to go with her girlfriend who "shares her values". I mean what a kick in the nuts.
Anyway, its good that Lesbians can be who they are, and don't feel the need to fake it and be married to a man. Back in the "old days" some poor sap would've been married to Rose O'Donnell. Imagine, being married to that loud-mouthed battleaxe and having to put up with her nonsense.
That's the Good side of "Gay liberation". We no longer have these unhappy marriages with the Gay partner feeling trapped and the straight partner suffering for it.
How are male applications to college going these days?
Seems like more and more of a hostile environment to me.
For this particular class, how many will be women, and how many men?
so, a serious hypothetical:
TWO societies
1) everyone (well, MOST everyone) is Gay. Hetro is WEIRD!!
2) men and women have sex, and have babies :(
in two or three generations.. WHICH society STILL exists?
"If Hetero Relationships Are So Bad, Why Do Women Go Back for More?"
I'm willing to bet that one conclusion that will not be considered is that Hetero relationships aren't bad.
Why is this a course? Is it a required course for a particular major? If I were going back to college to take courses that I had wished I had taken, this would not be on the list. I took a couple of soft courses, but wish I had done some more life skill stuff like a foreign language, writing, science. At $xxx per semester hour, there seems to be a lot more wasted tuition these days.
So, straight women are faking it and really want to be lesbos?
Not in my experience!
"Or is it possible that young people are choosing another way?"
They're choosing to present themselves a special. The preponderance of those extra "queer" youth are vanilla straight girls who want people to think they're spicy. They buy a rainbow bracelet, treat it as an aesthetic, and then exclusively chase boys just like every prior generation of young girls.
"A new straight-studies course treats male-female partnerships as the real deviance."
I start off primed to really hate this article.
“In this class, we’re going to flip the script...“It’s going to be a place where we worry about straight people. Where we feel sympathy for straight people. We are going to be allies to straight people.”
Oh, actually that could be really interesting. Let's see what they come up with...
Why would I ever settle for people who I don’t have basic value alignment with, which is most men?
Oh good lord. Back to hating it. These people are so lost in their academic nonsense that they've forgotten how to think and feel.
Back to the garden
The Griefs of Women
The griefs of women are quiet, rustle
like crinoline or whisper like
the tearing of old silk;
hum like appliances, give off the sharp sweet smell
of burnt out motors; tap like typewriter keys.
The strengths of women are quiet,
but hardy as the weed that finds its cranny
between the concrete block of the sidewalk
and the concrete slab of the wall, and grows there,
and blooms there.
Men are bums.
We're really better than they are.
(David R. Slavitt, doing Adrienne Rich)
Not for nothing, there IS something in the water, namely a frigging cocktail of pharmaceuticals. Birth control and antidepressants get peed out into the water but our water systems don’t remove that kind of thing. Looking forward to RFKJ looking beyond the fluoride.
If in a college course you are going to "worry" and be "allies," how can you engage in reasonably objective analysis and actual debate?
Lost me at "more nurturing and domestic, and somehow still more sexy...."Clearly the writer has no idea what's going on.
lgv said...
.. At $xxx per semester hour..
i think you missed an "x" ? probably should be:
"At $xxxx per semester hour"
Non-Resident
Year 2024-2025
Tuition & Fees* $28,881
that is Iowa State, for a year
(2 semesters of 12 credits per sem) or 24 hrs
https://financialaid.iastate.edu/getting-started/cost/cost-of-attendance/undergraduate-students/
So happy I went to engineering school.
Overheard at a recovery meeting.
Middle-aged Woman: All men are assh0les
Old Woman: Not all men, just the ones you're attracted to.
Relationships between men and women have been difficult since Eve and Adam. Welcome to the real world.
Relationships with anyone are difficult. What I find most irritating is the presumption that all men or women are similar in nature, wants, needs. That is so completely false. Everyone is a unique individual, not a cog in an artificial designated category.
If you don't agree with her tortured view of the world...you are the deviant or must be "faking it". What a crock.
Yes. Finding someone who shares or more importantly has congruent values, is important for a long lasting relationship. What is also important is having the ability to see beyond your own self and have some empathy with others.
But neutrality is cruel, and women want to present as empathetic.
…when discussing other women.
There is no empathy, in this course or outside, for men.
Cheryl at 8:01, I’ve wondered about birth control pee in the water too. Surely it can’t have zero effect, can it?
To see beyond yourself...... Main character syndrome. This is her real problem
Quote: "Main character syndrome is a term used to describe a self-centered worldview where individuals see themselves as the central character in their life story, often leading to a lack of empathy for others. While it can sometimes boost confidence, it may also result in attention-seeking behaviors and strained relationships."
for an Iowa resident, to take a ONE credit (one hour) class at ISU would set you back (tuition and fees NO room or board): $697
https://www.registrar.iastate.edu/sites/default/files/uploads/24-25%20document/large%20tuition%20pf.pdf
A serious, well structured and long term study of current young persons would be fascinating. How many of the gender fluid, alphabet soup individuals of 2025 will be happy on any level in 2050? I won't be reading that study. It's our anniversary today and it ain't no small number......
Why do women go back for more? What propels them toward the opposite sex, despite all the difficulty? And what does being straight do for them?
2 Live Crew addressed these timeless questions at length in the classic song Dick Almighty, their "simple ode to the male organ of procreation."
NSFW...or anywhere really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Rpw_mjaJQ
The left: Everyone is a They/Them trans victim
Also the left: How dare you complain when we try to ruin your kids - they/them trans are only 1%!
Man, they must have some really powerful mushrooms there!
"The online world seems to get weirder and more retrograde about heterosexuality every day. Idealized masculinity has become more aggressive, more jacked up, and also more high maintenance... while femininity gets ever “softer,” more nurturing and domestic, and somehow still more sexy...."
The online world of Disney.
"What propels them toward the opposite sex, despite all the difficulty? And what does being straight do for them?"
She thinks I'll squirm if she "confronts" me with this. Grab a coffee and a danish, hon, because we could be here a while.
“It’s going to be a place where we worry about straight people. Where we feel sympathy for straight people. We are going to be allies to straight people.”...
With friends like that…
But seriously, isn’t basic biology taught in high school anymore? In my day it was a required course. Obviously a lot of kids these days don’t even get the basic “birds and bees” talk.
I'm possibly not following. Heterosexuality as deviance, requiring - according to the teacher - the same responses from non-hetero people as homosexuality? Worry, sympathy, alliance? Doesn't this imply that homosexuality is deviance?
compulsory they/them - can happen to your six your old.
The corrupt left are on the march... for your kids.
compulsory acceptance of pedophilia - is on the march.
That man in a dress WILL be allowed to undress your daughter at the local gym.
Tacitus said...
"How many of the gender fluid, alphabet soup individuals of 2025 will be happy on any level in 2050?"
ALL the concern about "gender dysphoria" is focused on "gender"
The REAL issue is their "dysphoria"
The problem isn't that they have breasts (or don't have breasts)..
The Problem is: they are unhappy.
a new body (like a new car*) MIGHT make you happy for a day or a week..
but next year? or the year after? The only 'solution' offered is MORE DRUGS
yuk!
drugs don't make you happy
breasts (or the lack) don't make you happy
only You (and GOD) can make You happy
a new car* should the US government ORDER my insurance company to provide me with a Dodge Challenger Hellcat?
I'll CRY and pout if i'm not given one!!
Pretty sure we're in the "weak men create hard times" stage. Including myself in the "weak men" bit.
compulsory acceptance of after school art club - that in reality is a secret, hidden from parents, gender confusion propaganda club - is on the march
What propels them toward the opposite sex, despite all the difficulty?
Two things about this: 1. So, if a thing is difficult, it's not worth pursuing. Explains a lot. And, 2. Speaking as a woman myself, I do not concede - in fact, I vehemently disagree with the idea - that being in a relationship with another woman would be free of difficulty.
compulsory acceptance of biological men competing in women's sports - is on the march. The left don't don't give a shit about.. women.
I've read enough gay memoirists to know that their relationships are pretty damn ephemeral. No sooner consummated then it's all over. Hetero relationships are fraught but I don't think they'll ever be *that* bad.
Or are they? Is this a dating app thing? Glad I'm old.
There's way too much educational focus on studying and trying to improve society. We'd all be better off if college students were studying traditional subjects with the aim of learning how to be good whatevers [fill in the blank profession/occupation], rather than imagining that, through their professor-infused insights, they'll figure out how to adjust family/sexual/race relations throughout the world in a way that seems more just.
A good example of why higher ed is becoming a women only industry.
Paying high prices to listen to mental masturbation of people who have no experience in the real world.
Producing a sewers worth of nonsense, and being well paid for it is one definition of insanity.
I read recently that liberal women are prone to mental illness, depression, anxiety etc.
Cultivating 'teachers' such as this helps to produce the next generation of Kamala voters.
Did she also mention that lesbian relationships are known for being toxic-domestic violence, divorce and generally a poor life choice.
Is being a lesbian a luxury provided by capitalism?
Surprise, surprise, surprise - men and women are different. To keep a hetero relationship going, you have to negotiate constantly over very fundamental differences - libido, amount/type of conversation, what to spend money on, home decor, number of children, etc, etc. Yes, yes, every individual is different, but the two bell curves of male vs female approaches to any of these issues will have very different means.
Years ago, lots of factors made these negotiations worthwhile - social pressures, economic precarity, lack of birth control, fault-required divorce laws, heck even toleration of spousal abuse. With all those guardrails gone, there's fewer reasons to try to make an unsatisfactory relationship work - and less realization that they're all going to be unsatisfactory in some way.
JSM
gilbar: "breasts...don't make you happy."
They do.
JSM
To RCOCEAN's point: About thirty years ago I had as a client a sharp old lady who had gotten embroiled in litigation in Alabama and Georgia with a younger cousin of hers over the break up of a small professional practice which they had owned together with her deceased husband. In her view the cousin was a deeply closeted gay man whose frustration at trying to live a lie had wrecked both his marriage and the accounting business. Being a genteel Southern lady of a certain age, my client naturally didn't talk as though she were a professor of gender studies, or an Althouse commenter. Rather, she summed up the situation by saying, " He should have just moved to New Orleans."
This is also a perfect example of the teachings of the Italian communist Gramsci, who helped to create the 'long march thru institutions' that created the current ideological idiocy that is higher ed in the West.
What happened to "Love is love"? You fall in love with the person you fall in love with? - all the noise doesn't matter.
The man-hate on the left - is a real thing. (unless it's a man who wears a dress and wants to beat your daughter in sports - or undress her in the locker room)
But then again - writing about hate - is all the left have these days.
A lesbian couple I used to live near (neighbors) - several years ago, one of the women passed away. Everyone was shocked and saddened. Both women were delightful, and the woman who died, was the nicest person. She would offer herbs and garlic to anyone - and drop them off at the your door. She was an expert and growing the stuff. Anyway - she passed away in her sleep. The other women eventually found another companion - a man. No one passed any judgement in either direction. The female couple - they were loved and accepted by all. Love is love.
Start with the concept that men and women are complimentary and things make a lot more sense. This does, however, require jettisoning the trans nonsense.
The other starting point is realizing we're all human first, not our genitalia.
Many things I do not understand about contemporary rejection of grammatical rules, among them the obliteration of the comparative and superlative. Why write "femininity gets . . . more sexy" instead of "sexier"? Ignorance, laziness, or contempt?
“…like two fat little boys, wrestling under a blanket.”
Country lawyer.
LOL.
It seems to me that this woman has made a college course to reinforce her own confirmation bias. Having begun with her conclusion as a premise, she proceeds to spend a semester proving it, and hopefully convincing a few students along the way.
The people who are pushing sexual deviancy from the heterosexual norm are pushing for an end to society. It is the most malign of goals.
People can be free to do what they want.
But society must support and encourage people to have children in strong pair bonded male female relationships. Anything else can be tolerated but it must be made clear that pair bonded partners with children are the ideal and are the only people to be celebrated.
The only people who should be allowed to vote are pair bonded parents and veterans because they are the only people who contribute positively to future generations.
I never really considered myself a conservative, but if I can relate more to a writer from 200 BC, than a modern one, I guess I am. In other words, I got my Roman Empire in early today.
I hope this course covers "Finding the G-Spot 101."
It appears that there is no curiosity about why, "if heterosexual relationships are so bad," the men keep coming back.
Which is not surprising, given the rest of the tone. I mean, with Allies like that . . . .
Interesting isn’t sameness and ease but rather difference and struggle.
"the idea that women are socially conditioned to be straight, a concept she’d been teaching for years, originated by Adrienne Rich..."
No. As gilbar explained most women (and most men) are straight because we are all descended from a very long line of ancestors who either enjoyed, or were at least willing to tolerate, hetreosexual intercourse.
If you prefer non reproductive sexual activity, or platonic relationships, good for you. But not good for your children.
I remember when the gay/lesbian community was fighting for rights and acceptance, they argued that they didn't choose to be that way, they were born that way. The injustice was that they had to choose to live a hetero lifestyle to be accepted. Now, it's all choice and there is little recognition or acceptance of how you were born.
Instead of learning about things that matter- Science, math, writing, history - the left obsess over idiotic emotional issues.
Death of a nation.
I may have misread Althouse's comment, following:
"It was more that she had “cultivated queerness.”..."
"In other words: not born that way. "
[@Althouse, your response strikes me as a non sequitur. 'Cultivating' is, by its nature, not innate.]
I took it to mean "not born that way" as not born same-sex attracted. But if the meaning was "not born heterosexual", then it would be innate, and would be 'cultivating' if you accept the premise of SSA as innate.
If I misread it, my bad.
"Cheryl at 8:01, I’ve wondered about birth control pee in the water too. Surely it can’t have zero effect, can it?"
It's not just "birth control pee", although there's a lot of that. There are numerous plastics that act like estrogens. There's all kinds of crap in the water. And then there's soy.
Isn't there physical attraction between men and women? Hasn't it been there for a long while?
The online world seems to get weirder and more retrograde about heterosexuality every day. Idealized masculinity has become more aggressive, more jacked up, and also more high maintenance... while femininity gets ever “softer,” more nurturing and domestic, and somehow still more sexy....
Every movie has threatening or cowering males and strong, intelligent, omnicompetent females. People may push back a little against the dominant paradigm but not enough to say that men are becoming more aggressive and jacked up or women are becoming more nurturing and domestic in the real world. In the "online world," there may be some justification for talking that way about men, who use the freedom of anonymity to show sides of themselves that society wants to repress, but are women more "feminine" online than they are in real-life? I wonder if she had to seek out these "domestic and nurturing" online women, maybe on cooking and knitting websites. But even there, I'd be skeptical.
Obliviousness to the fact that.none of us would exist without heterosexuality is the ultimate luxury belief.
Trump launched this stuff the moment he said "They're for They and Them...I'm for You.'
Burgess has a whole chapter of "Earthly Powers" where the story of Adam and Eve is corrected--it was really Adam and Yedid, the original asshole buddy.
Eve came later, as part of the Fall.
No tag for Jane Ward? I'm pretty sure that I've seen a photo of her somewhere before. I did manage to find out what she's been working on lately:
Witchcraft has been feared, mocked and romanticized — but rarely has it been fully understood as a story of feminist resistance and enduring cultural power. Feminist studies scholar Jane Ward has set out to change that narrative. Her latest book — a collaboration with co-author Soma Chaudhuri — introduces “feminist witch studies,” a new interdisciplinary field that explores the power, persecution and political dimensions of witchcraft across cultures.
Normalizing homosexuality was the first serious step toward becoming a society of loons. Look around. We are reaping the results in the universities, on the athletic fields, in the military, etc.
Men, women, and our Posterity are from Earth. Feminists are from Venus. Masculinists are from Mars. Social progressives are from Uranus. Abortionists are from The Twilight Fringe. War of the worlds.
“In this class, we’re going to flip the script,” [said sociologist Jane Ward to her students on the first day of class]. “It’s going to be a place where we worry about straight people. Where we feel sympathy for straight people. We are going to be allies to straight people.”
Wait.. this isn’t a Babylon Bee parody bit?
Transgender (e.g. homosexual) relationships (e.g. couplet). Oh, and the Rainbow is an albinophobic symbol. #HateLovesAbortion
"the idea that women are socially conditioned to be straight, a concept she’d been teaching for years, originated by Adrienne Rich..." I haven't done the polling but I'm willing to bet that most of the people who profess to believe this also profess to believe in evolution and don't see the contradiction.
As society has grown richer, there have been an increasing number of people who don't form heterosexual relationships because they don't share "values" with those of the opposite gender. It wasn't so sexualized in the past, though. Often the absence of heterosexual attachments meant the absence of sex -- even the horror of any kind of sex. There may have been unconscious or unarticulated homosexual attractions (or not) but they weren't always acted upon. At a stage of development as sexualized as our own, it was inevitable that sex would enter the picture in a very big way, so that a lack of shared "values" with the opposite sex leads people (women in particular) more easily into sexual relations with the others of the same sex. Earlier, such a reaction to a difference in "values" would have been seen as narcissistic. If you didn't like how he leaves the toilet seat up, or leaves his underwear on the floor, or votes for the other party, you would have worked it out or found another, more considerate man.
Odin had to make women crazy so they would risk their lives in pregnancy to have sex with men. First principles.
I'm so old that I can recall when the norm was boy meets girl, girl likes boy and it all mostly (but not always) worked out. We didn't have a bunch of bogus therapists, gurus and advisers to help us learn to work things out. Sixty plus years down the road it has still mostly worked out for this boy and his girl.
You lost me at 'sociologist'.
Actual men don't talk about things like this, things the left tends to obsess over. Men are busy working, creating, building, caring for loved ones, or fighting in wars, or at the corner bar. Actual strong women are too busy being productive, raising families, or running businesses- or both. Too busy getting things done on a daily basis to stop and ponder their navels.
We've made human interaction something to learn about in classes taught by people who seem to not get it. Heterosexuality is what has kept humanity around for the eons we've been here. The lack of it, the preponderance of questions surrounding the nature of nature has created a society that no longer reproduces.
The good news is that in another couple of generations, there will be no more sociologists. The bad news is that...well...you get it.
Jane says “I’m done with Sergio, he treats me like a ragdoll”
"Men are just easier, way less drama."
Actual quote heard by my own ears from the mouth of a woman who was in a position to know, and gave up on lesbianism.
But this is more man shaming, emasculating propaganda. It's in all of the movies, it's in the novels that actually get published. I went over a couple of days about about the movie "The Guilt Trip" where they celebrated that their husbands were dead, and enjoyed a nice soft life off of the retirement and homes that those dead nebbish husbands provided. Popular art almost exclusively kowtows to female prejudices and fantasies. It wears on men.
I am sure the man-o-sphere is having a good time with this story, though.
This is why Gen-Z women, not just white women, women, trend Republican, BTW.
This pathology, by the way, is why the Left is desperate to discuss sexual degeneracy with young elementary students- it is the only reliable method of producing further generations of degenerates.
You can ask yourself too many questions. People with idle time and a comfortable life can ask themselves such questions. If you have to work for a living, and produce things, maybe you gravitate towards the conventional because to do otherwise is to have to work at one more thing.
What is the point of this class as higher education for young people, beyond destruction of social norms? Further, what is the grading based upon, and can extra credit be earned by taking a walk on the wild side?
I believe the research is that men are largely born straight or gay while women are small-c catholic in their attraction, and therefore women are far more influenced by cultural forces in pair bonding than men are.
"Idealized masculinity has become more aggressive, more jacked up, and also more high maintenance... while femininity gets ever “softer,” more nurturing and domestic, and somehow still more sexy...."
I would have said the opposite. I see men getting more feminine and women getting more masculine.
What is the point of this class
Capital redistributive change schemes including loan forgiveness. Also, Diversity, Equivocation, and Indoctrination into a secular cult.
"If Hetero Relationships Are So Bad, Why Do Women Go Back for More?"
Among other things, penis.
Homosappy.
Ampersand said...
"Obliviousness to the fact that.none of us would exist without heterosexuality is the ultimate luxury belief."
That's mostly true in the animal and plant kingdoms, too.
Think of this women's boyfriend. He tried to please her, and she just breaks it off because she wants to go with her girlfriend who "shares her values". I mean what a kick in the nuts.
I dated a pretty girl in college who was friendly and fun but always gave me the stiff-arm when I tried to move our relationship to the next level. After we parted ways, I learned that she had come out as a lesbian.
As a redneck kid from rural Arizona, brought up in a very sheltered and religious milieu, my reaction was to have a public snit about it that would have got me expelled from any university or fired from any job in today's world. I'm more worldly (or world-weary?) and humane these days, and it seems like pretty small beer when looking back on it all, but it was remarkably disturbing to me at the time.
I haven't done the polling but I'm willing to bet that most of the people who profess to believe this also profess to believe in evolution and don't see the contradiction.
Amen. That's one of those issues where polling is unnecessary and even misleading, in my view. If you find even one individual in your poll who is a young-Earth creationist but believes heterosexual attraction is socially conditioned, your experimental design sucks or you're being trolled.
if I can relate more to a writer from 200 BC, than a modern one, I guess I am. In other words, I got my Roman Empire in early today.
Cato the Elder? Plautus?
“ But she believes straight women actually have it worse — that the cards are fully stacked against them....”
Except in the case of divorce court.
“It seems to me that this woman has made a college course to reinforce her own confirmation bias. Having begun with her conclusion as a premise, she proceeds to spend a semester proving it, and hopefully convincing a few students along the way.”
I will make it simple, if not politically correct. Statistically, Lesbians cannot adequately raise children very well. They are bade with girls, and worse for boys.
“I will make it simple, if not politically correct. Statistically, Lesbians cannot adequately raise children very well. They are bad with girls, and worse for boys.”
Sorry, last post went out before I was done.
Boys need a hard “no” on occasion. And women, no matter how tough, have a hard time doing it. They also need to be civilized into male culture, that is rule and hierarchy based. And how to control their male aggression. Heterosexual Girls, on the other hand need unequivocal male approval, that is best obtained from a father. This keeps them from looking for love in all the wrong places. Statistically, apparently Lesbian couples do even worse at both of these than single mothers.
We have millions of years of evolution behind our heterosexual pair bonding. Such things as hidden estrus and constant sexual receptivity evolved in order to make sure that fathers were around to help take care of their children. Sexual dimorphism is also a result of this. Similarly male brains tend to be more logical, and female brains more nurturing and emotional. The list goes on. This women is trying to deceive Mother Nature. It doesn’t work.
"What propels them toward the opposite sex...?"
Procreation.
Cato the Elder? Plautus?
Incontinentia B. I think she wrote under a pen name, but was killed in The Coliseum by feral cats when discovered.
I knew too many women in grad school faking at being lesbian for the obvious benefits of even performative oppression to take anything this woman says seriously. I also knew too many predatory older lesbian or gay professors who pushed students into affairs with them to believe that a class about purported empathy for heterosexuals is anything but another flavor of the classroom perversions practiced by both heterosexuals and homosexuals with power in modern academia.
While I suspected several acquaintances of mine in grad school might have been lesbian, rather than just roommates, it never came up in conversation, and didn't need to. They never asked me who I might be banging, either, and they knew my roomie Tim was a tall handsome fella. Sometimes keeping social relationships strictly separate from professional relationships is a good thing, promoting harmonious work environments. I see that has been abandoned more recently. Nothing much good will come of it, I predict, and the pendulum will swing back to personal privacy rather than public politicalization of relationships eventually.
The pudendum always swings back.
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