"They were giving out a thousand bucks for people to protest — I think it was Tesla.... But so they, they had like the rules of engagement. If someone comes after you, hit them in the body, don't pick up an object... unless they pick up an object first. Like, like, are you organizing gangs? Like, are you, are you guys paying money for people? And then literally saying to them, here's what happens if you engage in violence. Like, why is that even on the table? I thought you guys were peacefully protesting. Like, who's going to get vi[olent]? How many pro-Tesla fucking hooligans are out there beating people up for Tesla? Is it fucking zero? I've not seen a bunch of pro-Tesla gang members out there. So what are you gonna encounter with this anti-Tesla movement? The police? Like, who's gonna stop you from doing, who's gonna engage with you? Like this is, you're kind of talking in a way that at least puts it on the table that violence might take place. And you're paying people!"
March 30, 2025
"You're pretending that these people are all coming out to see you. But they're coming out to see you 'cause you're giving them money and free food, right?"
"And you know, you're handing out water bottles, and everybody gets a sign, and everybody seems like they're kind of a part of a team. And for a lot of losers, a lot of people that don't have things going well in their life.... I was a loser at many points in my life. If somebody called me up and said, Hey man, you wanna make 400 bucks and just go to this Kamala Harris rally? I'm like, yeah, let's go. I would 100% go.... and I'd be like, yeah, I'm fucking voting for her, dude. He's Hitler, that guy. We gotta stop Hitler. And I'd be holding up that stupid sign — if you found me when I was 21. 100%. I would've taken that 400 bucks."
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$400? Really?
I'd go demo for Hitler or Biden for $400
Rogen discusses having compassion for the young people who commit vandalism and violence because they, (paraphrasing), aren't well or got caught up in it. Well....no. The " normal" people are at a tipping point with all of this. This is why Trump won. This is why Trump is remaining popular. This is why people are giving the benefit of the doubt to Trump and his team regarding Signalgate. But here's the thing - what comes next if the left keeps pushing? What concerns me is that when the "normals" decide they have to push back, it will escalate very quickly. The "normals" that decide they have to go violent will go violent in a way that will be biblical. Because if the go violent, they know how much they stand to lose, and because that's how "normal" Americans wage war. Put it off, put it off, take a blow, make excuses, try to let it blow over, until an event happens and there is total war. Then, build B-17s, B-24s and B-29s to bomb the enemy out of existence. Build a nuke and use it because fuck you, you stated a war and now we have a bomb so let's use it and the "normals" are tired of the war so end it soon. And end it by killing a lot of people quickly. Trump winning bought time, and maybe with some arrests and hard punishment, it won't turn that violent, but I think it is still on the bubble.
$400 seems expensive. It makes me wonder what other grifts these people have going that warrants a $400 incentive for a few hours work…
"Hey man, you wanna make 400 bucks and just go to this Kamala Harris rally?"
Will I get a W2?
There is a fine old theatrical tradition of the claque, which is a group of people paid to applaud (or heckle) a performance.
and the MSM couldn't have discerned any of this at the time?
Several people have Tweeted a video of an anti-Tesla protest where all the protesters left precisely when the clock struck noon. That all by itself shows they were paid, and had to stay until noon to get paid, with no bonus for staying longer.
I think the IRS needs to look at whether this group has withheld tax on this income. Declaring it as a gift when the gifted does work for you is very illegal.
Wow. The Tesla protesters are being paid? Well paid?
I thought I was cynical, but apparently not cynical enough.
Hopefully you'll see some of this going away once Elon and DOGE start the process of defunding the NGOs.
Declaring it as a gift when the gifted does work for you is very illegal
No shit. I'm the sort of person who follows rules because they are rules, and I think it's unfair to people like me to get stuck with limitations that are not restricting the freedom of the people who merely factor in the likelihood of getting caught and punished…
This has been going on for years. Years.
A major part of our political environment is entirely bought and paid for.
Obviously, this has been well studied by political scientists, yes?
At least here in Massachusetts there are plenty of the usual suspects who are protesting Tesla dealerships for free. It's the same group of politics-obsessed midwit ideologues who think a giant "Hate Has No Home Here" sign is a good thing for a business district. They are obsessively online, alternating between self-reinforcement and doomscrolling rage-bait, and if you have the misfortune to see an in-box when you're fixing one's computer, you'll discover more than a dozen messages a day, ever day, fund-raising from the Democratic party in the most transparently obvious and cringe-inducing fake-personal terms: "Obama NEEDS your opinion and your help RIGHT NOW!"
I can't imagine what kind of event could de-program these people. We'll probably just have to wait for them to die penniless, having given all their savings to political parties in $20.00 donations.
How does a generation go from worrying about, let's say, how a character they are writing for a TV show is not seen "representing any values they do not personally hold". And at the same time, or after the writing session is over, later that afternoon, go and participate in a "coordinated attack" at Atlanta's "Cop City"?
There's some kind of inversion, regression, I don't know what to call it.
Rogan, the Triggernometry guys, and a (kind of) Louisville reference (Hunter S. Thompson t-shirt) - I may have to watch the whole thing.
Can I get $1k per protest to protest Tesla? Can I book enough of them to buy one?
I also heard that today, and I thought, "Yes, I totally would have done that." When i was young, may if us thought if process as The New Radicals, and a scales, any cause, would get us out. Throw a little can at is, aid we got a PROTEST!
Well, Musk gives out $100 bills and all you have to do to get it is sign a stupid petition. You don't have to drive to a campaign rally, hold up a sign for a couple of hours, and then listen to political slogans and word salads. I think both sides are guilty.
I like guessing who the speaker is when Althouse puts a quote up that's not immediately attributed.
I thought it might be DJT until he said "I was a loser at many points in my life", then when he said he'd go protest for Harris for a few hundred bucks, I knew it was Joe Rogan. Joe's been red-pilled harder than just about anyone excepting Donald Trump, yet he is still California libtard at heart.
“I think both sides are guilty.”
Well, which one is open and transparent and which one is, how you say, astroturfed, lone bologna slapper?
A little, informal poll:
How many commenters know a lifelong, lib Democrat who was always anti-gun who suddenly has gone out and bought a gun or a couple guns and is learning to shoot?
Is anybody else seeing this?
Serious Question:
is there a Person? in the entire GODDAMN Country?
That supports the Democrats WITHOUT being paid?
That votes for the Democrats WITHOUT being paid?
mark? gadfly? rich? inga? care to comment? or did you sign a NDA?
how is it? that Democrat rally members' cell phones show that MOST of the rally members have been to 3 (or More!) rallies in different states? Seems time consuming.. and expensive!
It Almost Feels Like;
they are being bussed to events, AND being PAID to be there.
It ALMOST makes you think, that not that many people Actually support the "party of the people"
"$400 seems expensive."
Depends whose money you're spending. If it's yours, that's a lot but if it's coming from the people you're protesting, it's not that much.
Union guy came into pool hall and hired a bunch of us miscreants to picket someplace. Pacific Bell?
TaeJohnDo, well said. Reminded me of a piece from a now long gone blog, 'the Woodpile Report'.
‘Middle class America is no less violent than any other people. Them seem passive because they’re results oriented. They rise not out of blood frenzy to to solve the otherwise insoluble. Their methods of choice are good will, cooperation, forbearance, negotiation and finally, appeasement, roughly in that order. Only when these fail to end the abuse do they revert to blowback.
And they do so irretrievably. Once the course is set and the outcome is defined, doubt is put aside. The middles class is known, condemned actually, for carrying out violence with the efficiency of an industrial project where the bloody destruction and any scale is not only in play, it’s the metric.
Remorse is left for the next generation, They’ll have the leisure for it.
We’d like to believe this is merely dark speculation. History says it isn’t.’
The left has been pushing to create a real war. God help them if they succeed.
Once a protest is scheduled, lots of people with nothing better to do will go check it out, Makes the crowd bigger but doesn't mean they give a damn about the subject.
$400?! Why wasn't I told about this?
$400 x say, 10,000 rent-a-protestors is $4 million. Let's say you get double that with activism and get-out-the-flash-mob techniques. Is it worth it? Well..... 1,000 such mob protests would be $4 billion. That's starting to get into the USAID NGO neighborhood, isn't it? Now, let's say you've got good organizers, so the Progressive Legacy Media is ready to roll with the cameras and reporters, adding to the social media coverage and influencers. After all, if you're paying for mobs, you want to be certain the message gets out, and if you own the media, you want to be certain it's getting good material.
It's an entire ecosystem. Except the Cecil B DeMille days are probably over, or at least paused, now that DOGE has pulled the plug and they're starting to figure out how ActBlue works.
Dr Weevil: "Several people have Tweeted a video of an anti-Tesla protest where all the protesters left precisely when the clock struck noon. That all by itself shows they were paid, and had to stay until noon to get paid, with no bonus for staying longer."
Quite so.
However, we still have hacks like LLR-democratical lonejustice, the dumbest of the LLR-democratical posters, pretending there is some sort of equivalence between republicans and The New Soviet Democraticals.
Spoiler: there isnt.
I see that Elon is pointing to this JRE stuff. He is doing it to make the point that protesters were paid to protest.
What is Rogan pointing to when he said that protesters were paid a grand? It is fun to think about what info makes it into Rogan's brain. I listened to this entire podcast; and at one point says he doesn't know much about the Signal chat stuff, he just sort of heard some very minimal info about it but he doesn't know what it has to do with. OTOH...he's sure that Tesla protesters were paid a grand each. And even Elon can't say that w/o pointing to Rogan.
Rogan lives in a very interesting media bubble. IMHO.
"You asked who is funding and organizing the #TeslaTakedown protests. I've got answers for you, after going onto the streets of northern Virginia for the local protests here, seeing familiar faces from the Virginia Democratic political machine and then following the money -- and the data."
Real journalism.
Musk also gives out 1 million dollar lottery prizes ($1,000,000) for those who support his candidates. Makes the Dems and Harris seem like pikers.
OM, I read your link. I guess you could say that the IRS should look at those twenty four organizations and see if they should be tax exempt. Like when the IRS looked at the tax exempt Tea Party organizations to make sure that they weren't doing politics. I'm sure you supported that back then.
But, can you provide journalism that says the Tesla protesters were paid a grand each?
Joe's been red-pilled harder than just about anyone excepting Donald Trump
I think Elon Musk may have traversed a steeper red-pill arc than either of them, after the diabolical tranny perverts claimed to have turned his little boy into a girl.
Musk also gives out 1 million dollar lottery prizes ($1,000,000) for those who support his candidates.
This is a lie. Anyone who could show they had voted was eligible.
Real journalism
…yes. Not the kind of journolism that’s the subject of blog posts here..
and if you have the misfortune to see an in-box when you're fixing one's computer, you'll discover more than a dozen messages a day, ever day, fund-raising from the Democratic party in the most transparently obvious and cringe-inducing fake-personal terms: "Obama NEEDS your opinion and your help RIGHT NOW!"
…the misfortune of a Massachusetts prefix on your phone means the same in texts…
Son-in-law bought a Tesla 3 last week. Got my first ride in one yesterday. Loved it. He traded in his Ford Bronco, that he picked up from the dealership in Dearborn a few years ago. He got tired of paying $400/mo in gas.
"$400 seems expensive." What do you think all those NGOs are for?
"Like when the IRS looked at the tax exempt Tea Party organizations to make sure that they weren't doing politics."
Funny thing about that. The IRS only looked at conservative tax exempt organizations. Not Citizens United, Emerge America, Vote Rev Pac, etc. None of your lefty ones.
Why it's almost like you have a weighted agenda.
…even lefties understand resources like money are finite…now…
Leland,
In addition to fuel cost savings, your S-I-L will find that maintenance costs are much lower w/ an EV v an ICE car. I've had four EVs, and I currently have two (an R1S and a Kona.) IMHO, there is nothing better for daily duty. Of course I also have twenty two ICE cars because I'm not a commie libtard (though I do often disapprove of DJT). But my ICE cars are all special cars starting w/ two 1935 Packards (one is stock, the other is a very modified hotrod w/ a big block) and then all sorts of stuff.
FTR, I'm not a geezer. No offense to all the golden years folks that are associated w/ this blog. I'm way far away from retirement age. I just like old cars, and (obviously) blogs filled with old people.
Rusty,
The IRS did actually look at organization labeled as "progressive."
“Congress deserved to know that ‘progressives’ were on the IRS screening list during the time of the audit and progressive organizations were in the review group,” Levin said in a statement Thursday. “These omissions changed the nature of the investigation and the IG’s testimony is not consistent with his written response.”
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/154743-treasury-ig-liberal-groups-werent-targeted-by-irs-like-tea-party/
AND!, BHO still fired folks in the IRS after this scandal because he felt that looking into stuff re were Tea Party organizations being politically partisan--and therefore not tax exempt--was unacceptable.
Compare that to how DJT is using the government today. Presumably, according to you, BHO was a POS when he fired IRS people that looked into Tea Party organizations that claimed they were not partisan, but DJT is nothing but perfect as he uses the threat of the US government to crush Americans that speak against him.
Carry on.
lonejustice said...
Well, Musk gives out $100 bills and all you have to do to get it is sign a stupid petition. You don't have to drive to a campaign rally, hold up a sign for a couple of hours, and then listen to political slogans and word salads. I think both sides are guilty.
Both sides are "guilty."
But lonejustice only complains when Musk does it.
lonejustice was always a democrat/progressive even when he pretended to be a Republican.
le Douanier said...
Rogan lives in a very interesting media bubble. IMHO.
Rogan's audience is orders of magnitude larger than the corporate/government funded media.
But the progs are sure we are in the bubble.
The next year is going to be shocking for you. The entire government funded apparatus is going to be destroyed. The little prog marches are going to disappear.
And the violent little shitheads are going to jail.
The best part will be photo ID requirements. A few states will hold out and keep mail in balloting but not enough for democrats to win nationally.
A transparent election system with paper ballots photo ID and in person voting will end the democrat party everywhere it is implemented.
"“Congress deserved to know that ‘progressives’ were on the IRS screening list during the time of the audit and progressive organizations were in the review group,”"
I remember that, de Sitter. They threw in a couple of progressive groups as camouflage.
LLR-democratical lonejustice: "Musk also gives out 1 million dollar lottery prizes ($1,000,000) for those who support his candidates. Makes the Dems and Harris seem like pikers."
You claim to be a lawyer, which means you know perfectly well you are a liar. A typical, sad and pathetic, LLR-democratical liar, just like Chuck and Rich...only dumber.
"I remember that, de Sitter. They threw in a couple of progressive groups as camouflage."
Yup. And when this was discovered by an IG (the folks that DJT fired when he first got into office, this time), BHO fired IRS people.
To me that was the way things should be. Of course, now people like you openly support DJT using the power of the federal government to crush voices that disagree with DJT.
Technically, that make me a better person that you.
That's just plain, simple math.
" Of course, now people like you openly support DJT using the power of the federal government to crush voices that disagree with DJT."
Show us,please where this has happened.
"BHO still fired folks in the IRS"
Bullshit. Some low-level Party member from the Cincinnati office took the fall and Lois Lerner and Koskinen who were the executives in charge of the IRS got praised and paid.
Just like when a low-level lawyer for the DNC took the fall for the entire Russia Collusion hoax perpetrated by the Clintons and the DNC/Democrat Party media.
Young man, you have a lot to learn about this world. Now go drive off in one of your 135 expensive and enviable automobiles, ya libtard troll.
le Douanier said...
To me that was the way things should be. Of course, now people like you openly support DJT using the power of the federal government to crush voices that disagree with DJT.
"Crushing voices that disagree" means cutting off the flow of taxpayer dollars to NGO's and Bureaucrats.
Let that sink in. This asshole thinks he and his friends are entitled to our tax dollars.
I'm old enough to remember reading the accounts of Lois Learner's IRS henchmen, and reading lists of the demands they made - not of Tea Party organizations, but of churches and religious charities, organizations that were indisputably charitable, running food pantries and so on, but were Christian. The burdens imposed on them for 'proof', in the image demanded by the IRS, drove many of them past frustration and into bankruptcy. They were hounded, with a purpose-driven intent. Nice try, though.
@prof. M.Drout: are you the same guy who taught English at Wheaton ?
"Young man, you have a lot to learn about this world. Now go drive off in one of your 135 expensive and enviable automobiles, ya libtard troll."
I only have twenty four cars, not one hundred thirty five. (though, technically, I also own a lot of vehicles that are owned by companies that I own.). And, some of my twenty four personal cars are not expensive. For example I have two W201 Mercedes, and I have a 1990 Talon (FTR this car is sick!: fully built engine, Ohlins suspension, Evo 8 seats, and so on). Hence it is only fair to note that three cars are not expensive, likewise some of the of the others twenty two are also not expensive. I think that I read that the average new car costs something like fifty grand, so I assuming that anything less than that counts as "not expensive."
Most of these "massive Democrat" rallies are rent a crowd events.
> le Douanier
Oh, look -- another seminar caller!
Kirk Parker said...
"> le Douanier
Oh, look -- another seminar caller!"
The list of commenters who I have to pass over without reading is getting longer.
"I only have twenty four cars, not one hundred thirty five."
Sure you do.
I'm sure they need attention, so why don't you run along.
source for the claim that AOC and Bernie Sancers rally-goers are being paid? I don't see anything online, and Rogan himself notes that he saw it on X and it might not be true.
Judging from the excitement I see on reddit and facebook from people I know, I don't think any of the people I know or the people on reddit who have gone to the rallies have gotten paid.
Side note: how on earth can people stand to listen to Rogan blabbing on and on, and these sycophants that are listening just interrupting every now and then to say "yeah" and "uh-uh" with nothing else to add? I've asked before and I'll ask again--how do people have the time to listen to hours and hours of this stuff.
Rusty said...
Kirk Parker said...
["> le Douanier]
"Oh, look -- another seminar caller!"
The list of commenters who I have to pass over without reading is getting longer."
le Douanier is the latest moniker for the commenter variously know as Ritmo Brasileiro, anti-deSitter space, Sprezzatura, and probably some others (Cacimbo Cacimbo, Cachorro Quente, etc.) Same expressions, the most cogent of which is "I dunno."
Add Begonia to the list.
I pretty much never agreed with Ritmo's comments, but I give props for the coolest avatar - the Brazilian flag with an eye where the yellow rhombus and orb usually sit.
C'mon Rusty, I barely ever comment. You guys in the comments are always bashing each other to see who is the biggest asshole and I usually don't even bother to comment unless our dear hostess starts posting information that is likely not true.
I live by this truism: *Most* people are good.
Therefore, if you are a Trump supporter, and you read something that confirms your fears that those baddie liberals are evil, you should double check whether it's true.
Likewise, if you are anti-Trump, and you read something that confirms your belief that Trumpers are racists and homophobes and fascists, you should double-check whether that is true.
Hey man, you wanna make 400 bucks
Wow, you can almost buy a fast food meal with that!
I think both sides are guilty.
But only one side, The Bad Guys, are complicit. The Good Guys, regretfully, are just doing what they have to do because The Bad Guys are relentless and evil.
"I live by this truism: *Most* people are good."
You're misinformed.
Most people are indifferent.
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