Writes Michelle Cottle, in "What Ocasio-Cortez Wants for the Democrats" (NYT).
Her mere existence spins up Republicans!
Meanwhile, Democrats are itchy, and AOC is scratchy.
March 30, 2025
"How far Ms. Ocasio-Cortez can go is a hot topic for many Democrats right now."
"With her youth, charisma, social media skills and political savvy, she is being talked about nowadays as not only the obvious heir to Mr. Sanders as leader of the progressive movement, but as a possible presidential contender for 2028. This both recognizes her potential and feels premature at best.... Her mere existence spins up Republicans to a degree reminiscent of their reaction to Nancy Pelosi in her heyday.... The Fighting Oligarchy tour organized by Mr. Sanders and featuring her as a 'special guest' drew fired-up crowds in numbers worthy of a presidential campaign: about 15,000 in Tempe, Ariz.; 11,000 in Greeley, Colo.; 34,000 in Denver.... Democrats freaked out by Mr. Trump are clamoring for leaders who share their sense of urgency. Fighting Oligarchy, with its revolutionary fervor, is working to scratch that itch.... [A]lthough Mr. Sanders is the tour’s headliner... it is Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, serving as his fresh-faced, supportive warm-up act, who has many Trump-traumatized Democrats dreaming of a counterrevolution...."
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We can't wait for Democrats to tee up this bitch.
Not since Hillary Clinton is someone on the left so hated by everyone not getting paid to fellate her.
Urgent… urgent…
EMERGENCY‼️
Democrats are throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is the latest experiment. (Has she ever said she wants to be President?)
Adrift at sea for 5 months many on the left are rapidly losing their minds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt9qvVt0E_Y
A lot of guys say she goes all the way!
They forgot her economic credentials. Did you know she studied economics at BU? Concentration in economics but still…you know, where you don’t have to take micro and macro but you can take The Economics of Racism and Climate Change for Social Justice and call yourself credentialed…
"Her mere existence spins up Republicans to a degree reminiscent of their reaction to Nancy Pelosi in her heyday..."
Heh. Frankly, I find AOCs existence amusing, but she is useful to Republicans in the same way Nancy Pelosi was: electoral poison.
Hope she runs.
AOC is nutty. She once claimed that her Republican colleagues were motivated by "sexual frustrations" and that they were "mad they can't date [her]." This is false.
Bernie even didn’t seem that enthused about her in a recent interview.
Anybody else notice she’s putting on a little weight in her face?
" about 15,000 in Tempe, Ariz.; 11,000 in Greeley, Colo.; 34,000 in Denver."
what's Truly UNBELIEVABLE, is how many THOUSANDS of people's cellphones say that they went to ALL THREE!!!
You KNOW that a person's popularity is REAL, if people take liking her as a full time job!!
The obvious problem with Kamala as POTUS was that she is clearly dumb. Can anyone tell me if AOC is any smarter?
The DNC has invested heavily in the prospects of AOC, from early on. She immediately had an enviable wardrobe that did not reflect a barkeep's income. She has Upper-Middle Class values, and she's ambitious.
But ambition is no substitute for talent and savvy, and in this, she's deficient. She cannot think on her feet; When she produces a good comeback, it's prepared. She is prone to tropes. And she gets mad easily. Now, some latinas can be hugely attractive and compelling when they're fired up. But AOC just looks blotchy and petulant, like she's about to stamp her foot. Upper-Middle Class values.
She may be one of the DNC's better prospects, but that doesn't make her a good prospect. She'll run, but she'd be elbowed out by Gavin on short order. No, the DNC is going to spit up a younger white guy, next time.
to be fair;
she IS the hottest looking exbartender/tv actress in the Democrat party
They should see a doctor about that itch. You never know WHAT they caught between friends....
Didja notice how this article isn't titled "What Ocasio-Cortez Wants for Americans." She's not trying to appeal to Americans. She's trying to appeal to Democrats.
It is VERY clear why certain people are talking up AOC as a Presidential candidate and that is that they don't want anybody talking her up as a US Senate candidate and every last one of these people is being paid by Chuck Schumer to convince AOC that she should want to be the President.
Michelle Cottle's husband, by the way, works for billionaire Democrat Laurene Jobs, one of Chuck Schumer's biggest cash donors.
Interesting how the MSM-DNC always frames the story. Here, its "Gosh, grassroots Dems are upset their Leaders aren't fighting Trump hard enough". I don't remember a single MSM-DNC story from 2021-2024 about "Gosh, Grassroots Republicans are upset at their leaders for not fighting Biden enough".
Instead we got stories about the noble Lisa Murky or Susan Collins or Mitch the bitch McConnell "reaching across the aisle" to help "Make the Government run" despite all those far-right extremists back home making their life difficult.
As for AOC and all these so-called "Progressive" (Note: Not Far left, or even left) leaders who are breaking a new path, etc. Its all fake. The democrat voters are the dumbest, most low information people in the country. In 2028, the Democrat Establishment will decide that 2-3 politicans are "Kosher" and then we'll have the primaries and 1 of them will be chosen. And all the D's including the fake "Bernie Bros" will fall in line and vote for them.
The last time you had a true fight for a Nomination was 2008, when Obama came out of nowhere to be Hillary. And O was able to do that because blacks voted for him. AOC isn't getting the black vote, anymore than Bernie did.
And the Democrats *are* fighting back against Trump and stopping his agenda. Its just those Democrats are Judges in the District courts, and are abusing their judicial power.
She's just moron confirmation for the party.
The right is developing its own moron base, owing to the clickbait model of advertising. It used to be that the right was bemusement at the left and not clickbait, and it attracted smart people.
Men are bemused by women, still. It's a way of domesticating grudges and suspicions.
Looks like Bella Absug. Needs hats.
34,000 in denver was a stretch. A lot of leftists showed up - but it was more like 22,000 at best.
She will be difficult for any other Democrat to defeat in a primary 1 on 1. The strategy the party leadership might use is the one they used in 2020- put up one "centrist" against AOC and a couple of other like-minded morons- perhaps Buttuvwxyz.
"oligarchy" = what a lame word. All while dutiful hivemind dems ignore Leftist Oligarchy... Hoffman, Soros, Pritzker Gates and on and on.
Remember Bernie's "Millionaires and Billionaires" meme?
All washed clean on the Google-Youtube.
Nothing beats a public figure for life - a true socialist - who himself is a millionaire!
we learned in both 2016 and 2020 that the democrats are controlled by something or someone...else... a dark shadowy insider grifting mob force. Any Dem who wants a shot at the nomination will need to kiss that ring.
Democrats desperately wanted Trump to be the nominee against HRC. They thought he would be easy to beat - how did that work out. Republicans need to be equally careful with AOC. She has charisma and a natural political talent.
And to clarify- Buttuvwxyz would be drawing from the same well of voters as AOC and would serve to undermine her in a primary.
She doesn't spin me up especially. She confirms, to me, that the left have no sense of what actually works here on planet earth.
The trillion dollar coin (from a BU econ minor), the get Amazon and their jobs off my lawn, the GND cow farts...
Yep, bring her on, lefty folk. Bring her on.
Her mere existence spins up Republicans!
The men appreciate her tits, but she isn't getting any younger.
Iman: Nice Foreigner reference!
JSM
I think AOC is a nitwit... and a fraud... behind a cute young facade.
The longer you look at the female clowns put up as Presidential candidates by the Democrats — Clinton, Harris, and now Ocasio-Cortez, the better, more sober, more capable Sarah Palin looks. Heck, the sanest Democrat female who campaigned for the nomination in 2020 eats salad with her comb.
By all means put Ocasio-Cortez up against Vance in 2028.
"AOC isn't getting the black vote, anymore than Bernie did."
This is true. Blacks will vote en masse for non-black candidates who are perceived to have spent time in the trenches supporting black causes. They aren't moved by non-black candidates from the far left with no real connection with them, telling them how great their policies will be for blacks.
“Fighting Oligarchy” in the same sense that the Philadelphia Phillies are the “Fightin’ Phils.” The Democrats ARE Team Oligarchy.
“Fighting Oligarchy” in the same sense that the Philadelphia Phillies are the “Fightin’ Phils.” The Democrats ARE Team Oligarchy.
Jim said...
Anybody else notice she’s putting on a little weight in her face?
She's put on weight in general. There were rumors a while back she was pregnant but she's denied them.
I second Cacimbo's comment. Be careful what you wish for regarding AOC. If they thought Kamala was presidential material, they'll believe AOC is the second coming of Evita. Vogue will have a centerfold spread just to cover her ass. And universities will be welcoming her with speaking engagements and honorary degrees for her economic wisdom. The enemedia will rev up to 11 to get her ready for her closeup.
The Biden "presidency" revealed their ideal strategy, namely, an empty-headed figurehead that they can fill with smartass leftist apparatchiks making all the decisions and President AutoPen signing all the EOs. AOC fits that strategy perfectly.
Jeff bezos' puppet.
Key player in his "second HQ" scam.
I've never been able to figure out whether she was in on it or Bezos just played her. I lean towards being played.
John Henry
"Can anyone tell me if AOC is any smarter?"
In the words of Dave Attell, "they say she's retarded, but those titties ain't retarded"
The dems' big problem at the moment is that a significant portion of them are too distracted by their obsession with finding some kind of satisfying resolution of their get-Trump storyline to think rationally about the kind of leaders and policies they want to put in place for when he's no longer in office. It's like asking Wile E. Coyote to focus on a future that doesn't involve trying to catch Road Runner.
Yancey Ward said...
And to clarify- Buttuvwxyz would be drawing from the same well of voters as AOC and would serve to undermine her in a primary.
I expect to see a potential Buttigieg and AOC ticket in 2028. Both are Millennials. Democrats have lost Gen X and appear to be losing Gen Z, I can see them thinking that the Millennial Generation is the only one that can save them.
If you scratch it, it will never heal.
34,000 in denver was a stretch. A lot of leftists showed up - but it was more like 22,000 at best.
The Arizona crowd was claimed to be 15,000 but somehow squeezed into a venue that the Tempe fire marshal limits to 5500.
I don't think the Dems are having quite the Tea Party moment they were hoping for.
Please make AOC the leader of the Democrat party.
She will destroy what is left of the democrat party. She will drive out every JFK Democrat left and all you will be left with is the progressive wing of the party.
At some point after the Republican Party becomes too dominant it will split. The progressives will choose to join one of the new parties or remain in the political wilderness.
If they keep burning Tesla dealership and assaulting people we can send them to CECOT where they belong.
Just a friendly reminder, Democrats are looking for anything other than a white man.
The Democratic bench looks awfully sparse. The vacuum is likely to be filled by a gimmick candidate, someone physically attractive, relatively young, and not politically well known enough to have any reputational baggage from the Dem misadventures of the past decades, someone who makes Dems feel good about themselves in the way Barack and Jimmy Carter did in their ascensions from relative obscurity. Someone who can talk in self congratulatory generalities while expressing the airy stupidities of those lawn signs about "in this house", e.g., no human is illegal etc.
AOC now, reminds me of Obama, back when he made his national debut speech at the convention. I thought, there's a guy with superficial charisma and some political savvy, as long as you listened to his speech and didn't read it. I said, he'll be dangerous with a few years of seasoning.
I was surprised when he was nominated quickly for president. But look there - he won.
I think the DNC is seeing AOC as the second coming of Obama. I think they could easily be right.
Newsom has too much baggage, and is too fluffy, to win nationally.
Oh, I left out the most important thing about the gimmick candidate -- this is someone so inexperienced that he or she will allow the Democrtic Party permanent government to regain control and micro-manipulate whatever poor sap they find.
Jim said...
"Anybody else notice she’s putting on a little weight in her face?"
T that's because she's pregnant.
In general for the most part, I think of New York Times colonists, not as people who are particularly insightful or smart, but as reliable leftist commentators. I still don’t understand how Krugman got a Nobel prize and economics, but clearly his columns. The last several years seem to suggest he really does not understand economics well.
My point for this column is that Cottle really confuses AOC and Pelosi. Pelosi was a coldhearted assassin. Conservatives hated her because she was serious and determined and effective and her policies were harmful to the country. I think I am not living in a bubble and I think I am correct that most of the country sees AOC as a joke. She is just a silly girl with no understanding. The country is divided somewhere around a third or a quarter conservatives, a third or a quarter liberals, and the remainder somewhere in the middle. I don’t know that Americans can really process information enough to make good choices but when your candidate is ridiculous, The middle will go elsewhere. I think all conservatives and all people who love the country really want AOC to run. She is the most ridiculous on serious Candidate that the left can run.
Curious George said...
'"Can anyone tell me if AOC is any smarter?"
In the words of Dave Attell, "they say she's retarded, but those titties ain't retarded"'
Thanks. I spilled my coffee.
AOC already has the cool 3 letter name. She has the cute/hot vibe.
I believe it was the Professor who, in a long ago thread, mentioned that treating her like an idiot was a mistake-
What ever cabal ran things the last 4 years, and obamas 8 hasn't gone away-
Factor in election fraud, and AOC has a better chance of being elected than Biden Harris. Harris is an idiot, no political instincts, no intelligence, no charisma, came very close to being President. and yes, cheating was off the charts, again.
Will they let AOC run, or do what they did to Bernie in 2016?
Socialism with tits and ass.
As always, it's up to Congress to make laws ensuring honest elections- and the chances that actually happens is slim to none. They were in session less than two weeks this month, and same for next. They aren't serious about getting anything done, just talking about getting things done.
The stage is being set by the cabal to elect another idiot.
Fred Drinkwater said...
AOC now, reminds me of Obama, back when he made his national debut speech at the convention. I thought, there's a guy with superficial charisma and some political savvy, as long as you listened to his speech and didn't read it. I said, he'll be dangerous with a few years of seasoning.
I was surprised when he was nominated quickly for president. But look there - he won.
I think the DNC is seeing AOC as the second coming of Obama. I think they could easily be right.
Newsom has too much baggage, and is too fluffy, to win nationally.
3/30/25, 10:11 AM
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Obama was a smooth talker though. She is not. Also, Obama had pretty much 100% of black voters voting for him. And by that I mean, not just the ones that normally vote. People who didn’t normally vote I think came out to vote for him. He really was a kind of historical candidate. This also motivated every single liberal to vote for him. The first black president. Personally, I think skin color is nonsense. I think all thinking people should. But in our country with our history of slavery and fighting a war to end it, you can see the appeal of electing a black president. I don’t agree with it, but I see the appeal. And yes, slavery was an institution in every country and continues to be an institution in some and yes, we were the only one to fight a war against it. But I think you can see the appeal of electing the first black president. He really was a smooth talker. I don’t like the guy, but you can understand his appeal. I don’t think AOC has any of that. No one is motivated to vote for her to be the first Hispanic president or I think woman president. I don’t see that as part of America’s history or psyche To be overcome. I don’t know if that Obama is smart, but he is certainly very clever. I don’t see AOC as being smart or clever. I think it’s apples and oranges.
The Democratic bench looks awfully sparse.
@Ampersand, that was deliberate on the part of Obama.
AOC fits my picture of a leader of the Modern Democrats. LOL! A perfect follow up to Joe Dementia and the Cackler.
I think people are greatly overestimating AOC and underestimating Mayor Peteyboy. He is a master level bullshitter who will appeal to moderate Democrats and RINOs.
The Dems will sell Petey like they sold Dukakis, but without the Snoopy-in-the-tank moment.
RCOCEAN said...
"The last time you had a true fight for a Nomination was 2008, when Obama came out of nowhere to be Hillary. And O was able to do that because blacks voted for him. AOC isn't getting the black vote, anymore than Bernie did."
Obama was anointed by the Party cabal, just as Hillary was in 2016, Joe in 2020, and (belatedly) Kamala in 2024.
AOC is an actress recruited and paid by wealthy leftists to play a part. She does it well. But that's about as deep as it goes.
From the post:
"Meanwhile, Democrats are itchy, and AOC is scratchy."
Is that a 'Simpsons' reference?
Cacimbo said...
"Democrats desperately wanted Trump to be the nominee against HRC. They thought he would be easy to beat - how did that work out. Republicans need to be equally careful with AOC. She has charisma and a natural political talent."
The Democratic National Campaign Committee promoted Trump as a straw candidate, as admitted by John Podesta.
I think if AOC is anointed for 2028, if she is pressed for policy statements, she'll respond first with boilerplate platitudes, and if pressed for more, she'll be at least as shrill as Hillary.
It's difficult to be spun up when you're doubled over with laughter.
Remember all the stories about the Malaysia Airlines plane that took off, turned out to sea and was never hear from again? How the networks kept showing that flight path? over and over? and showing pictures of rescue ships rushing to and fro on the wide blue sea? over and over? And day after day long after we all knew it was gone with its unfortunate passengers, CNN still had a special hour dedicated to showing the flight path some more and ...
OK, you remember. So that's been the Dem party (Activist Section) since November 7. That flight path out over a vast emptiness, those endless discussions of the highly qualified, experienced pilots, (who currently are named Bernie and AOC).
There's other kinds of Dems. There's Dems trying to think within a set of crippling rules, like Ezra Klein and Jon Stewart; there's former Democrats like RFK Jr. and Tulsi who have not changed their central concerns and are now representing them inside the Trump administration; there's Seekers.
But there's a lot of Dem leaders, journalists, actors, university presidents, students and foreign poodles on Malaysia Air as it turns out to sea who are just sitting there thinking the future is going to be just like the past. Though the flight path at the present is a little hard to understand. Why that turn back there?
AOC is on tour with Bernie? She's there to add a little Latina spice to Bernie's canned sauerkraut. If they attract crowds, it's probably more because there's not much else going on out there for Democrats or socialists right now, not because AOC's appeal is attracting people who don't always come to such events.
That "little girl" voice. Boston mayor Michelle Wu sounds a lot like AOC. It doesn't inspire trust or confidence. Perhaps feminists want someone who sounds like AOC to be as inspiring a leader as deep-voiced men have been in politics, but it's just not going to happen.
She's not a sure winner, but not necessarily a sure loser. The JFK Democrats have died, or left the party long ago, or embraced the Obama-Biden-Harris party. The DNC's donors won't love her but it's surprising how pretty much every Democrat with a "soak the rich" platform ends up attracting some big donors from NYC, LA, and DC (Bernie, more serious about his socialism than AOC being the possible exception). Both parties can get over 45% of the vote now whoever they run. If AOC runs for president, she's more likely to lose than to win, but it wouldn't be a blow-out or bloodbath for the Democrats.
Democrats have a fever, and Sandy Cortez is more cowbell?
These are Democrats, after all. "We haven't been shrill enough" is a line that will fetch 'em every time.
"Trump traumatized Democrats". How embarrassing it should be to be a (D)iddy Party member. To know that your co-religionists consider you so mentally weak and helpless, and they believe that it is good and right to be so lame and pathetic. Of course, they also consider themselves to be great and wonderful people just by being Democrat Party members, so it all contributes to the constant state of anger, anxiety and confusion that libtards are always in.
Ezra Klein recently said of the American populous, we are caught between a party that wants to make government fail and a party that does not make government work.
The solution to a terrible idea is a better idea. It’s easy for Republicans to make government fail. They have a win at all costs approach and a simple goal. Democrats have been in a more difficult spot and are seemingly out of ideas that can be easily explained to the masses. Perhaps it is time for new leadership and new voices. Certainly it is time for better ideas and a government that works.
There are some very accomplished and charismatic leaders inside the Democratic Party -- Josh Shapiro and Wes Moore and Gretchen Whitmer leading my list -- and this new generation ought to become the standard-bearers. These are sensible and smart people who know how to govern. But if the party continues to be identified with the likes of Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and "the Squad," the Democrats won't win power for an entire generation.
we saw the results of the destroy the police, green nude eel,
that is what cortez and Buttigeg would bring,
She could run with Nevada senator Catherine Cortez-Masto. Imagine the Ocasio-Cortez-Cortez-Masto ticket.
Keith (i think), said
"Obama had pretty much 100% of black voters voting for him. And by that I mean, not just the ones that normally vote. People who didn’t normally vote I think came out to vote for him."
true, but the WAY for Democrats to win NOW, is:
pretty much 100% of voters voting for him. And by that I mean, not just the ones that normally vote.
People who didn’t normally vote..
People who Couldn't vote..
People who Didn't Exist
That's the Biden way, and it looks like it will be The ONLY Way.
Other than AWFULs, and Government Employees; WHO is voting for Democrats in 2028?
The Greatest Generation (FDR voters)... DEAD
The Baby Boomers.. Dying
The under 30 crowd? Trump's Republicans OWN those kids
Matt Taibbi explores the disaster that an AOC candidacy would be.
https://www.racket.news/p/the-aoc-train-wreck-is-coming-and?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
As Ben Shapiro used to say about AOC, “so fresh, so face.” Now he regards Jasmine Crocket as the Dems’ new fresh face (more fresh, more face?😂).
AOC more likely setting her sights on Senate, but I don't think she can win a primary there.
Readering: "AOC more likely setting her sights on Senate, but I don't think she can win a primary there."
AOC has learned the only lesson needed to get where she wants to go: work with the New Soviet Democratical establishment only since the democratical base voters, like readering, will do whatever they are told to do by their marxist masters.
Aoc is 35 now, she is the type that looks 20 until she is 40 then suddenly looks 60. When half your popularity is based on being cute, you have little left when it goes away.
And if she is so cute, where are all her hot guys? Her campaign was paying her mediocre boyfriend for some reason.
And if she gets higher office her Indian communist mentor will start wanting some publicity and power letting the cat out of the bag.
..as dumb as they all are I suspect the leftie king makers are a bit shell shocked from their appointing empty suit candidates…
Her mere existence spins up Republicans!
Not this one. I ignore her. Far as I can tell, she's a circus sideshow.
How far can she go? All the way.
Republicans need to be equally careful with AOC. She has charisma and a natural political talent.
Even Trump has said this to some degree, during one of those podcasts he was on during the election, where the guy asks for one-word descriptions of people.
I misread the post title as “How far Ms. Ocasio-Cortez can go at Hot Topic…” and thought she switched careers again.
I keep telling people not to underestimate AOC. Yes, she's not very smart, but neither is Jacinda Ardern, and she weaseled her way into being Prime Minister of New Zealand for two terms, even though there are root vegetables with more intelligence. The media will gush over her, and unlike Harris, she can at least string a sentence together. Be careful what you wish for.
Gilbar said…
“ Other than AWFULs, and Government Employees; WHO is voting for Democrats in 2028?
The Greatest Generation (FDR voters)... DEAD”
Good point. The dead are known for voting Democrat.
"The Itchy & Scratchy Show is a fictional animated series featured on The Simpsons. The cartoon depicts a sadistic mouse named Itchy who repeatedly maims or murders a black cat named Scratchy."
Great. She's not 80. Hire her. That's where we are at.
Joe Biden's economic policies had a lot of input from Sanders and Warren, both are advocates of big government solutions like universal healthcare. It's no surprise then to find out that 80% of attendees to Sanders rallies had attended more than once. Probably paid by an Oligarch. Because to make America a Socialist country as Sanders envisions, requires Oligarchs to fund his movement.
If the Republicans could convince themselves that Bob Dole and John McCain were viable candidates, and they did, then the Dems can probably buy the idea of AOC as presidential material, too. And the results, I pray to God, will be the same.
She's learned so much since encountering that in-sink-erator.
JMC: "I, I could have been a contender if not for the whack-a-doos!!"
BD: "Bob Dole thanks you for your consideration. Go Viagra!"
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