Said President Trump, in his inaugural address today.
January 20, 2025
"Never again will the immense power of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents — something I know something about."
"We will not allow that to happen. It will not happen again. Under my leadership, we will restore a fair, equal, and impartial justice under the constitutional rule of law."
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Awesome thing to say while teh Dems have to sit there and take it
And I don't think he knew that Biden pardoned his siblings 15 minutes before the Inauguration. The whole family and everybody else he preemptively pardoned are ALL guilty as hell, and got away with a cover up.
I believe him. If nothing else, the man is a patriot, and he understands what Democrats did was incredibly damaging to the country.
Trump knew that was comng. Anyone who didn't is naive beyond words.
Jake Tapper(D) Soviet - already lying.
oh but look!
Just to watch lefty heads explode:
Trump should announce preemptive pardons for his entire family, J.D. Vance and all his political appointees from the moment of birth until the end of his presidency.
Then, after the fires cool and the ash has fallen, he could tweet, "Just kidding, that's the kind of thing my predecessor did to cover the multitudes of crimes committed by his cabal."
My favorite part about the pardons was when they told us that we were forbidden to infer any nefarious behaviors or motives. It's the same way when a witness takes the Fifth, but guess what, they love to force a witness to take the Fifth.
Love that Trump called out the Biden / Garland corrupt Justice Dept. And they had to sit there and listen. AWESOME!
"Never again will the immense power of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents..."
It's not up to Trump, with all due respect.
Primarily it will be up to the judgement of those in charge, abstaining/restraining from using a power seemingly granted them by an abismal precedent. And secondarily, Supremes re-interpretations.
AOC just called Trump a rapist.
Trump should sue her for defamation.
2020:
Jake Tapper interviews president elect Joe Biden.
Tapper asks president-elect Joe Biden about Trump possibly issuing preemptive pardons.
Biden: “It concerns me, the type of precedent it sets. How the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws. You won’t see me doing that.”
A person can reject a pardon. We'll see who decides to do that.
If he wants to do what he's promising not to do, he will simply say the kinds of things Biden and Biden's people said when they did it: compliment himself for upholding equal justice under the law and treating the powerful the same as anyone else.
I’m not interested in persecution. I’m interested in knowing what happened so we can implement barriers from it happening again.
"got away with a cover up."
Correction: "...pointed out exactly who was guilty." These sorts of things evolve and mutate over time. Watergate continued as a concept for a generation, and led to the "-gate" suffix for many controversies. Think of indirect and unintended reactions.
Funny how all of the pardons implicitly admit *at least* one of two things is true, either they are all guilty as sin, or they know very well how easy it is to fake up a case against someone.
Indeed. I expect that strategy to last 5 to 20 years at most. There have been all sorts of persecutions of opponents in US history, by all parties and across all eras.
2020:
Jake Tapper interviews president elect Joe Biden.
Tapper asks president-elect Joe Biden about Trump possibly issuing preemptive pardons.
Biden: "It concerns me, the type of precedent it sets. How the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws. You won’t see me doing that."
They can still be investigated and forced to testify under oath as to the actions of others. Question: if one of the people pardoned laundered money, and the bank is charged with money laundering, can the bank sue the Biden who did the money laundering?
It is true only in the criminal law context that jurors are instructed that they may not draw any inference. In the civil context, and in the court of public opinion, you can infer and believe whatever nefarious behaviors or motives the invocation of the Fifth Amendment may suggest. So infer away!
And I am not aware of any similar limitation on the inference of a pardon.
Miley needs to testify in congress on his actions with China. He needs to be censored by congress and loose his clearances and what benefits are legally revokable, and any contractor who hires him should be removed from government work as a security risk.
Exactly, Professor. I suspect President Trump will choose to fry different fish, but the fact of the Biden regime completely disgracing itself for the sake of JOE BIDEN on the way out will contribute to the continuing decline of the Democrats.
As someone here recently pointed out, the family pardons are for 11 years. Interesting number. What was going on back in 2014?
Ok, now tell me who killed jfk, and mlk, and who made the nj drones. Show me the alien corpses at Area 51. Release the Epstein client list and tapes. Have a swat team raid the Clinton foundation for secret records. Publish the vaccine data that is under seal.
Question: how can he ban this pardoning and pandering? It's a great goal I just don't know how it could be done short of eliminating presidential pardons altogether.
Question: how can he ban this pardoning and pandering? It's a great goal I just don't know how it could be done short of eliminating presidential pardons altogether.
Miley's pardon is probably the one that sticks in my craw the most. One would expect some form of corruption or lack of ethics from politicians and bureaucrats. When they take their oath, you understand they likely consider it ceremonial. When a military member takes that, they mean it. It's important. It's solemn. It's something you can't easily put into words. They would die if necessary to uphold their oath.
The fact Miley violated that oath, seemingly rather easily, then receives a pardon is unforgivable. He is a disgrace to the uniform and traitor to the United States of America. The man should be ashamed to ever show his face in public again.
Kakistocracy is the only government money will buy.
AOC just called Trump a rapist.
Perhaps he should sue her for defamation.
Plus this:
2020:
Jake Tapper asks president-elect Joe Biden about Trump possibly issuing preemptive pardons.
Biden: “It concerns me, the type of precedent it sets. How the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws. You won’t see me doing that.”
Can’t wait ’til Take Japper points that out!
/sarc
Selling of access and to the VP and preferential treatment from the VP, then later President, to foreign corporations, governments, and their interests. In the case of Miley, it was just selling out his oath as an US military officer.
Your democrats get away with actual corruption - and yet you whine.
I’m gonna wipe that kak right offa my shoe.
I don’t think one can revoke a Presidential pardon. However, what you can do is remove any honor that those receive it try to gain by claiming victimhood. You do that by showing just how guilty they were of the crime for which the previous President excused via a pardon.
“It concerns me, the type of precedent it sets. How the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws. You won’t see me doing that.”
Biden kept his promise. We didn't see him doing that. Not one photo or video clip shows him issuing these pardons.
Agree. A new day in America. Now justice for the J6 protesters.
Notice how the Fauci pardon didn't contain the "nonviolent offenses" limitation that even the Biden Crime Family pardons did.
Is that because homicide is classified as a violent crime, is it not?
It's fun to imagine Biden's crew like Garland, etc. squirming at the mention of lawfare to attack political opponents, but I think that in reality they are sitting pretty. "Too bad it didn't all work," they might be thinking, "So-and-so, not I, was to blame for the failure, but I did everything I could in the righteous cause of defending our Democracy!" Even if one starting out on a career of crime feels doubts and embarrassment, a good steady run of criminal behavior will usually help him or her develop fictitious justifications that are utterly convincing to the self.
Might as well weaponize it, since you can just preemptively pardon all those who did it and have no repercussions.
Same. And to shame the fools that think they got away with their crimes. I want to know every recipient of cash from the slush fund they used to pay off THEIR picadilloes, amongst other things. As they say, sunshine is the best disinfectant!!
It's funny how all the tech folks flocked from Biden to Trump - but the very same tech folks were all cool when they were complying with the left's corrupt demands and threats for censorship.
LOL! Oligarchy! whaaaaaa
Poor little Alex Vindman's wife is so sad that they didn't qualify for one of Joe's pardons after all the lies they spewed to help him.
https://ijr.com/betrayal-wife-of-witness-against-trump-says-shes-extremely-upset-her-family-didnt-get-pardon-from-biden/
"...approached Benjamin Franklin after the signing of the Constitution and asked, “Well, Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?” Franklin famously answered, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
The only way I can see to bring lawfare to a great screeching halt is to remove judges Kaplan, Engoron, and Merchan from the bench, and disbar them along with Fani Willis, Letitia James, Jack Smith, and Fat Alvin Bragg. Among others.
I note in passing that the TSA official who put Tulsi Gabbard on the Terrorist Watch list has reportedly been fired. Very small, but necessary, first step.
Never again will the immense power of the state be weaponized to persecute political opponents.
Wait, aren’t you the guy who promised to lock her up?
To Jaq’s comment, if Biden’s point in pardoning his family and others is to protect them from Trump vengeance, then why no pardon for Barack, Hillary, or Kamala? The pardons go back to 2014, when Barack was President. I guess they were not part of the crime that Biden’s family committed.
Did he?
Big Money has consummated its conquest of Washington. The voting power of the people was not celebrated; the ascendancy of the Super- rich was. Power will be aggrandized to further the concentration of wealth. The plebes will be given populist crumbs; the patriarchs now rule unchallenged. Congress has been subordinated and is unlikely to resurrect its constitutional power unless reenergized by a popular revolution of the citizens. Will free and fair elections be allowed by the Super-rich or can democratic change now only come from the streets?
Political power will be used to keep the people divided and fractured while the Super-rich continue the constant consolidation of wealth through the unbridled and unregulated power of rigged markets.
Agreed. It's not the prosecution that's most important, but correcting the RECORD of what really happened, with the revelation of detailed evidence. And if any of that evidence was destroyed, then the names of those individuals need to be made public. Once the official record has been corrected, then restitution to wrongly accused or convicted people also needs to be made.
"Very small, but necessary, first step."
Absolutely. There must be consequences, or no lessons will be learned.
"As someone here recently pointed out, the family pardons are for 11 years. Interesting number. What was going on back in 2014?"
Wasn't 2014 the year Obama allowed Russia to "annex" Crimea from Ukraine?
CEOs may curry favor with Democrats when they have power and Congressional majorities, and with Republicans when they hold power. This is part of their job -- they have a fiduciary duty to shareholders. They’re reliably consistent in that ….
BTW "never again" = until the Democrats retake the white house.
I saw on X that Rachel Vindman (wife of ex-Lt.Col. Alex ) loudly bemoaning the fact that they didn't get a pre-emptive pardon like the rest of Biden's crew did. The Vindmans are just not important enough to Joe I guess. (Bottom line: You fool! You trusted us!)
One solution I've heard offered regarding the abuse of presidential pardons would be to restrict their use during presidential election years from a period from the start of early voting for the general election until the day after inauguration, thus forcing the president to face the voters for any pardons granted.
So what is it you're supposed to do with a pardon, anyway? I mean, do you have it framed and put it on your office wall along with your degrees, licenses, and commissions? Do you nail it to the front door of your house to ward off evil spirits? Maybe you just fold it up and carry it around with you to show people like at restaurants to get a better table.
He didn't. Someone should have prosecuted her for her creation and use of a Private Server to 'serve her' - while she was Sec of State.
A big mistake. She and the MSM turned around and used fabricated BS to bog Trump down.
Sure hope the brightest and best figure out a way to punish the real crooks and liars.
Do you include Soros in your whining?
How long before he breaks his promise. Appointing Pam Bondi Attorney General has already violated this promise.
I give it a month before this statement is forgotten. And I am sure that many of you will deny he ever said it.
Trump and his team should to after Vindman... and those who received a preemptive pardon anyway. Lying liars who lie must face consequences in our nation of laws.
Did he sell any of his crypto during the address? Did Melania? Did anyone here buy any?
2020:
Tapper asks president-elect Joe Biden about Trump possibly issuing preemptive pardons.
Biden: “It concerns me, the type of precedent it sets. How the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws. You won’t see me doing that.”
Trump may (currently) be a felon, but all those pardoned can now be introduced as Mr XX or Ms. YY, who has received a pardon for their crimes against the country.
Can Trump still call him back into active duty and court martial him? Pardons only cover Federal crimes, not so?
For the first time in 4 years, I can go to bed without the fear that the FBI will appear at my door to arrest me for having been at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. I had posted an account of my experience there that day on this blog, but in fear of political persecution (and possible arrest of my child), I requested that Prof. Althouse remove it, which she kindly did. Since then I have rarely spoken of my experience, knowing that many of my acquaintances, friends, and possibly even family members, would have been all to happy to turn me in to the FBI for having done exactly what President Trump requested his supporters to do--peacefully and nonviolently petition our government and depart from the Capitol when violence (which I firmly believe was instigated by government agents) occurred. Most of these people still believe the insurrection narrative.
For my part, I still believe that our republic died in the election of 2020 and during the rule of the secret cabal behind Biden. The multitude of pardons issued in the final days of the Biden regime only demonstrates the loss of our rule of law and lack equal justice under law. I can only pray using the words of Abraham Lincoln that with the inauguration of President Trump, "this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
And I am sure that many of you will deny he ever said it.
Your predictions suck. Always have.
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December, 2020. Joy Reid: Have you ever heard of somebody getting a preemptive pardon who is an innocent person?
Adam Schiff: No.
Today Adam Schiff got a preemptive pardon.
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1881412017917198375?
For all you legal beagles I believe that the currently controlling SCOTUS case: "Burdick vs US 1925" which says, in effect, that accepting a pardon is confirmation of guilt. There is a 10th circuit decision in 2021:
" Lorance vs Commandant" that disagrees. Until SCOTUS reverses itself I think it is safe to assume that all those who accept these pardons are declaring their guilt. ANN?
Glad you are now safe from what was a totalitarian government. I hope that those protestors who were assaulted by Bidens government are set free, and compensated for the injustice.
One of the darkest days of America, and too many leftists still believe the BS narrative of that day.
Avoiding prosecuting and or persecuting the innocent does not mean the guilty get a free pass. I think there have been clear violations of civil rights under color of law.
Thanks for proving our point, Prole. Trump didn't persecute his political opponents, and thanks to Biden, Trump won't be able to persecute those that persecuted him. But Trump can bring about the revelation of what they did and correct the record, as he did with Hillary's crime.
Also, Biden didn't pardon Hillary, and there is no statute of limitations to her crime nor was she exonerated in a court of law. You might want to consider your right to remain silent.
Heh.
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Even though the most corrupt administration in history just pardoned themselves from facing justice- watching Trump shit on them 8 feet away for 20 straight minutes did make me feel a little better.
Dems had to face some level of reality and we all got to see them sit and seethe - even if fleeting that is more than they wanted - I guarantee that.
Biden banned TikTok. Trump banned CBP One.
Democracy dies in darkness.
Let's give Joe Gaga a little credit -- he didn't (so far as we know) try to sell anybody a pardon for crimes to be committed in the future. Any and all crimes committed before the 1 January 2030, say.
@wendybar, sorry to disagree with you, but having lived in and around Washington, DC, from 1969 to 2016 (I.e., among federal workers) I reluctantly assure you that they have no sense of shame whatsoever. You have to hurt them financially — and make it terribly, terribly painful — to educate them.
Several times today in speechs I've heard reference to Trump winning the popular vote, so the "voting power of the people" WAS celebrated, but nothing about the ascendancy of the super-rich.
Seems obvious that many among the super-rich are sucking up to Trump, but being a supplicant isn't being "ascendant". And if Musk and Veraswamy actually DO reduce government regulations and spending, they won't be acting like pigs at a trough.
Old and slow said...
"As someone here recently pointed out, the family pardons are for 11 years. Interesting number.”
Nigel Biden: The numbers all go to 11. Look, right across the board, 11, 11, 11 and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most pardons go up to 10?
Nigel Biden: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it covers more?
Nigel Biden: Well, it's one more, isn't it? It's not 10. You see, most blokes, you know, will be breaking the law at 10. You're on 10 here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on 10 on your grift. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Biden: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to 11.
Nigel Biden: 11. Exactly. One more.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you make 10 a little more?
Nigel Biden: [pauses] These go to 11.
The holdings in Burdick and Lorance do not say what you claim:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdick_v._United_States
*Although the Supreme Court's opinion stated that a pardon carries "an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it,"[2] this was part of the Court's **dictum** for the case.
[4] Whether the acceptance of a pardon constitutes an admission of guilt by the recipient is disputed. In Lorance v. Commandant, USDB (2021) the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals *ruled" that "there is no confession and Lorance does not otherwise lose his right to petition for habeas corpus relief for his court-martial conviction and sentence. The case was remanded for further action not inconsistent with the court’s opinion."[5]
So, LEGALLY there is no "implicit admission of guilt" in accepting a pardon---but the court of public opinion is free to draw its own conclusions..
It seemed Biden used his family to work the bribery deals. If they made any sells for pardons, and he did pardon a lot of violent criminals in his final weeks, then his family is also pardoned for those crimes too.
I'm already hearing signaling from Congress that Republicans will continue to ask permission from Democrats to accomplish anything, so any investigation of leftie corruption is likely over. I did make one big error in suggesting Dana would be telling us it was 'time to move on'. Way wrong- it was Brit Hume...
...also Martha mentioned 'they're hearing' Ramyswammy is leaving DOGE (which is already being sued) ...
Bah...
Best quote today:
“For many years, a radical and corrupt establishment has extracted power and wealth from our citizens while the pillars of our society lay broken and seemingly in complete disrepair . . ."
... from the guy who literally had just monetized the presidency with the launch of a $Trump ponzi-meme coin.
And who cannot — in effect — be prosecuted, ever, thanks to the Supreme Court.
Chef's kiss.
She’s done that repeatedly.
“Appointing Pam Bondi Attorney General has already violated this promise.”
In what way?
In that sense, isn’t the notion that Trump shouldn’t use the power of the state to persecute his political opposition part of the civility bullshit?
The collateral benefit of the pardonpalooza is that it may prevent the baddies from asserting the Fifth.
The family may have a continuing exposure due to the money that was moved into their accounts. I'd follow that.
@Leland: Copying for my post earlier today. Obama initiated gain-of-function stuff in 2014 --> outsourced to China. Biden was paid to play along back then, and continued to be an obedient puppet to the end.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/10/17/doing-diligence-assess-risks-and-benefits-life-sciences-gain-function-research
i just listened to NPR's 4pm news on "All Things Considered"
They were LITERALLY Sh*tting their pants while talking.. you could HEAR IT.
According to NPR.. Donald Trump is acting like he is the President, for some reason
@Josephbleu:
Milley = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
JFK = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
MLK = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
NJ Drones = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
Alien corpses = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
Epstein client list = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
Clinton foundation = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
Sealed vaccine data = held by the CIA per 'national security' concerns
Not to mention the other 17 organizations who don't want their mistakes and violations discussed either:
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/what-we-do/members-of-the-ic
And I am not aware of any similar limitation on the inference of a pardon.
There were some comments in an earlier post referring to a supreme court case that did clarify that a pardon is an indication of guilt. I haven't done any research beyond those comments, so that and $100K will get you a cyber truck.
Obama initiated his gain-of-function research stuff:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/10/17/doing-diligence-assess-risks-and-benefits-life-sciences-gain-function-research
What about Eric Ciaramella?
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/04/17/impeachment_whistleblower_was_in_the_loop_of_biden-ukraine_affairs_that_trump_wanted_probed_1024937.html
Mrs. Pelosi, tear down that wall.
You have to hurt them financially
Or move their jobs out from swanky NOVA to northern North Dakota. Even with the moving costs, the government would save a disgusting amount of money by getting rid of the DC office space and not having to pay COLA. I think we should with the whole COVID/remote work thing that almost none of those people actually need to be in an office in DC, so federal employees should be moved to locations that are more economical. The gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair that would come out of that is just the gravy on top of those biscuits.
Don't prosecute them, just claw back all the bribery money per tax evasion or other federal "rules"? See the prosecution of Al Capone for tax evasion.
I'm no longer in the business, but suppose I were to ask a witness or a defendant, "Have you ever been charged as a criminal, or pardoned by Joe Biden for your actions on or about [fill in the date]?
I don’t think one can revoke a Presidential pardon. However, what you can do is remove any honor that those receive it try to gain by claiming victimhood. You do that by showing just how guilty they were of the crime for which the previous President excused via a pardon.
Could the fact that someone was given a pardon be used to prevent them from doing business with, or being employed by, the federal government? There's the beginning of a novel legal theory for you.
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