October 30, 2024

"There are basically only two major continents. Antarctica and everything else..."

"... since South America is connected to North America through Panama, North America is connected to Asia through the Bering Strait, and Asia is connected to Europe, Africa and Australia through the Urals, the Sinai and Indonesia, respectively."

From "How Many Continents Are There? You May Not Like the Answers" (NYT)(free-access link so you can read the definitions and so forth).

I've quoted the position of one geologist, but another says that there could be a third continent, Zealandia, which might not be sufficiently connected to Australia to deserve inclusion in the everything-but-Antarctica continent. There are also geologists who say 6 or 5 or 8 or 9. Just don't say 7.

78 comments:

mikee said...

And if you look at a polar projection, Antarctica looks like a rubber ducky.

tcrosse said...

Widespread incontinence.

Ice Nine said...

A pressing conundrum. Guess I'm going to have to stop thinking about the Roman Empire every day.

Mogget said...

First they went after the nine planets and now they want to reorganize the continents. Can’t we just leave things alone?

Rocco said...

This reminds me of the “Is Pluto a planet?” debates.

AlbertAnonymous said...

Science!

Rocco said...

Is the tomato a fruit or a vegetable?

Kay said...

First thing I thought of as well.

The Vault Dweller said...

Whatever nerds. My very excellent mother just served us nine pizzas, so I'm still ride or die on Pluto being a planet.

ALP said...

Why would I 'not like the answers'?

David53 said...

Which experts are we to believe?

Ficta said...

I thought I'd try this as an exercise. First we need a definition: What would a continent be? A non-ocean tectonic plate seems like as good a definition as any. Okay, quick trip to Wikipedia. Hmmm. Looks like there are Major, Minor, and Micro plates. Let's just count the major plates. Throw out the Pacific plate since it's ocean. So: 6 if you count India and Australia as one plate, but not everyone does, so maybe 7. So 7 is perfectly fine answer. Damn click-bate headline. I guess I'll go skim the article now.

RideSpaceMountain said...

Brought to you by the same people who said Pluto is not a planet.

Pluto is a planet
There are 7 continents
THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS!

Roger Sweeny said...

There is no Platonic essence of "continent" any more than there is a Platonic essence of "planet" and "minor planet" or "major tectonic plate" and "minor tectonic plate" and tectonic micro plate". You use a definition that is useful and that the people you communicate with can agree to.

n.n said...

One: terra firma. Also, one heavenly body connected by dark matter imperceptible to the seances.

Rory said...

I thought Antarctica was major because it's the one that sits on the turtle's back.

gspencer said...

Everything’s interconnected,

The foot bone's connected to the leg bone
The leg bone's connected to the knee bone
The knee bone's connected to the thigh bone
Doin' the skeleton dance
The thigh bone's connected to the hip bone
The hip bone's connected to the backbone
The backbone's connected to the neck bone
Doin' the skeleton dance

Dem bones, dem bones, dem dancing bones
Dem bones, dem bones, dem dancing bones
Dem bones, dem bones, dem dancing bones
Doin' the skeleton dance

Rocketeer said...

This article is useful to this extent: scientists can’t even agree how many continents there are - I’m certainly not going to believe there’s anything approaching “consensus” on anthropogenic climate change.

Rocco said...

The Vault Dweller
Whatever nerds. My very excellent mother just served us nine pizzas, so I'm still ride or die on Pluto being a planet.

But all the Experts say “My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Us Nonsense.”

TBC, I prefer the pizzas.

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Today, I feel there are 27. I reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

Today, I feel there are 27. I reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow

n.n said...

Ironically, people believe there is a universe inferred from signals of unknown fidelity and origin, in what can be characterized as indulgence of a god complex, and accompanying religion narrated in a handmade tale to selfie.

Rocco said...

North America and South America are two separate continents that are swooshing past each other at slow geological speeds. The geology and history are different. Event the biome’s flora and fauna differ on either side of the Darien Gap.

Wa St Blogger said...

I identify as the 12th continent. My pronouns are Panga/Pangis

Crimso said...

It's intended to keep us all off balance, keep the ground shifting. It's why "they" are constantly redefining words. We're the other members of Pink Floyd trying to learn "Have You Got It Yet" from Syd Barrett. Frank Herbert had thoughts on this: "In all major socializing forces you will find an underlying movement to gain and maintain power through the use of words. From witch doctor to priest to bureaucrat it is all the same. A governed populace must be conditioned to accept power-words as actual things to confuse the symbolized system with the tangible universe."

Mark said...

Hold up ... even *this* science isn't settled?

Leland said...

I’m going with Ficta, but combining Australia and India.

effinayright said...

Fun fact: Thurgood Marshall's clerks, knowing he had bladder problems, used to refer to him as "The Dark Incontinent."

True story. Trust me.

Yancey Ward said...

What about Hawaii- which of the two continents is it connected to? What about any island in the middle of our singular ocean- are those just islands unlike this New Zealand continent?

Scott M said...

"COUNTING CONTINENTS: YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WRO--" (click)

Jupiter said...

This is not a question of geology.

RCOCEAN II said...

There are only 2 kinds of people in the world. those who think there are only two kinds of people, and those who do not.

And the point is? Nothing. Y'know like saying there are only 2 continents.

Rocco said...


Bushman of the Kohlrabi said…
Today, I feel there are 27. I reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow.

You’re thinking of the correct number of original Baskin Robbins flavors: it’s 27 not 31. For example, French Vanilla is just a variation on Vanilla. I can’t tell you what the others are, though. I am not a Food Scientist.

RCOCEAN II said...

This entire article revolves around the definition of "Major Continent". Personally, I consider Austrailia and Antarctica figments of peoples imagination. Neither place really exists.

Rocco said...

Scott M said…
"COUNTING CONTINENTS: YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WRO--" (click)

Maybe the other 5 continents simply didn’t answer the phone when the pollsters called.

rehajm said...

Wait until they start fucking with the periodic table…

Jupiter said...

I will point out, that North America is actually separated from Asia by the Bering Strait. But I don't guess you could expect anyone employed by a university to know that.

narciso said...

did these people flunk geography,

Wa St Blogger said...

What the browser AI says:

In conclusion: The definition of a continent is multifaceted and context-dependent, encompassing geological, biological, ecological, and cultural aspects. While there is no single, universally accepted definition, the seven continents listed above (Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia) are widely recognized and used as a standard classification.

So basically continent is not a scientific term at all.

Is it a continuous land mass not separated by water?
Is it based on the tectonic plates upon which the above water mass rides?
Is is based on geopolitical associations?
Is Madagascar it's own continent?

What is really cool about this is that if Trump makes a claim that "Continent is defined as...", we can then have shouting debates, riots, and hate fests about the meaning of continent. And Matt Walsh will make a movie where he goes about asking "What is a continent?" (hopefully he uses a better disguise or takes a cue from O'Keefe and uses attractive women to honeypot unsuspecting scientists.)

rhhardin said...

There's too much emphasis on water.

tcrosse said...

By this reckoning there's only one ocean.

Kevin said...

You think that's crazy? Did you know that all cats are fundamentally either black or orange?!

Ampersand said...

There is no tactical advantage for an academic in a borderline obsolescent discipline like geography to put forward claims that are intuitive, traditional, or common sense. Unless you are willing to pretend that your views are an astonishing departure from the past, you are not justifying your campaign for tenure or department chair.

Wa St Blogger said...

You think that's crazy? Did you know that all cats are fundamentally either black or orange?!

You don't have that quite correct. Cat's are both orange and black, but we can't tell until we open the box.

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

continent deniers.

Ampersand said...

Many oceanographers believe that. See The Blue Machine (2023), by Helen Czerski

Gospace said...

There are 9 planets. Pluto counts..

BUMBLE BEE said...

Things must be opening up in the Grant World,
Gotta get that name out there somehow.
Hell if they can't define a woman by a unanimous Supreme Court decision there's a chance! College Degrees!

mikeski said...

Take it up with Cartographers For Social Equality.

Gospace said...

Now that's funny! A Schrödinger joke. Funny or not funny depending on whether or not you understand it...

John in PA said...

How do you get published/funded if your answer is “Yep, 7 seems about right.” ?

PM said...

Momentarily read that as Zoolandia and thought of Blue Steel.

Bob Boyd said...

If you're a globalist working towards the elimination of national borders this is the next logical step. Then there will be no reason why anyone should not be able to go anywhere except Antarctica which is reserved only for scientists and a few wealthy tourists.

catter said...

Ask the writer whether Brooklynites are Long Islanders.
This can lead into a discussion of different geographies; eg political, social, geologic, etc.

F said...

So you're unburdened by what has been?

tcrosse said...

All cats are grey in the dark.

Captain BillieBob said...

One.
Pangea, the mother of all continents.

Iman said...

Mötley Crüe World Tour ‘24: Incontinence on 7 Continents

Rabel said...

"Only two major continents"!!! Damned Globalists.

As a world famous geologist said "I thought this was America."

Amadeus 48 said...

Earth, Air, Fire, and Water. What more do you need?

mindnumbrobot said...

The Science Is Settled™

Amadeus 48 said...

Experts once believed in phlogiston, so they had that nailed down, too. No wonder they cut off Lavoisier's head. Attention, Elon Musk!

mindnumbrobot said...

Perhaps some Earth, Wind & Fire?

https://youtu.be/7tuJfud4W6U?feature=shared

n.n said...

It's a magma pool with a single lava field, albeit disjointed to the seances.

Narr said...

Of course!

Skeptical Voter said...

You know there are a lot of "answers" in the New York Times that I don't like. Ho hum another day at the silly factory dealing in its own reality.

Bob Boyd said...

We need to start sending more of these applicants to trade schools.

Rabel said...

I don't know how many continents there are but there are definitely 5 elements.Big Badda Boom

Democratic Paychecks for Perks/ Dems for Demolition of Democracy/ fake-cares 4-U said...

OT
ABC accidentally aired election results of Harris winning PA by 5% with 100% in

Indigo Red said...

There are four lights. Right?

ronetc said...

Well, it's technically a fruit. But a wise person does not make a fruit salad with it.

n.n said...

There are 21 major consonants in the English language.

Some letters, however, can represent more than one sound, including both consonant and vowel sounds. These letters are known as “sometimes consonants.”

mikee said...

That canal in Panama is a deal breaker for me - two continents!

mikee said...

All cats are gray in the dark. And that's gray spelled with the "a" not the "e" me boyo.

mikee said...

"Education" uses all the vowels, but so does "War & Peace."

Justabill said...

I may not like the answers? I may not care one way or the other.

Arashi said...

Well it is in the NYT, so just click bait. Obviously a subject that only 'experts' are concerned with, one which does not really affect the rest of us. So just make up your own number and criteria and go with that.

ron winkleheimer said...

I've always thought that Europe is only a continent because the map makers were European.
https://www.britannica.com/science/world-map