I'm reading — in The New York Times — "Trump Prosecutor in Georgia Seeks to Avoid Testifying in Colleague’s Divorce Case/Fani T. Willis was subpoenaed in the divorce case of a colleague she hired to manage the Trump prosecution in Georgia, with whom she is accused of having a romantic relationship."
I already think it is a huge problem when someone who wields prosecutorial power — threatening the liberty of private citizens — asserts that she is the real victim here, the victim of racial prejudice, racial prejudice bubbling under the surface.
But look at this:
In a group email thread that includes prosecutors and defense lawyers in the case, the lead lawyer for Mr. Trump in Georgia, Steven H. Sadow, expressed annoyance with prosecutors for ignoring a request he had made. On Jan. 5, he wrote to prosecutors: “For the life of me, I cannot understand why you refuse to respond to the series of emails below.”Five days later, Daysha Young, an executive district attorney who, like Ms. Willis, is Black, wrote that she and Ms. Willis “are both aware, especially as an African American woman some find it difficult to treat us respectfully.”
So, it appears that Young started speaking explicitly in terms of race. There was a failure to respond to email. The article doesn't say how long Sadow's requests had gone unanswered, but he expressed frustration with the nonresponse. And then there was an additional 5-day lapse before Young responded, and — at that point — she racialized the matter.
[Young] added, “Over the last month the emails of some of you have been disrespectful and condescending lacking both professionalism and decorum.” Ms. Young also said that she did not respond to some emails because they were disrespectful.
Mr. Sadow, who is white, responded with an email in which he said that it was “offensive, uncalled for and untrue” to suggest that racism was at play. He also said that Ms. Young’s lack of response to some emails from the defense “suggests a degree of haughtiness.”
Sadow resisted the accusation of racism, and yet he said he detected "haughtiness." "Haughtiness" — what a word! So close to "uppity," and yet even "uppity" is not overtly racist. It's just a word that everyone — almost everyone — knows has been used to put down black people.
And right after that "haughtiness," Fani Willis stepped forward, amplifying Young's statement:
“In the legal community (and the world at large) some people will never be able to respect African Americans and/or women as their equal and counterpart,” [Willis] wrote in a note addressed to Mr. Sadow but sent to all of the defense lawyers, most of whom are white men. “That is a burden you do not experience. Further, some are so used to doing it they are not even aware they are doing it while others are intentional in their continued disrespect.”...
And then the following Sunday, Willis made that speech "at a historically Black church... suggest[ing] racism was playing a role in the allegations against her and Mr. Wade, who is also Black."
So what do you think? How strategic was Trump's lawyer's choice of the word "haughtiness"? It was so effective that I suspect it was a deliberate word choice intended to aggravate Willis and drive her to drop the guise of neutral professionalism.
But maybe he stumbled into it and got lucky.
IN THE COMMENTS: RigelDog said:As a career prosecutor, I've got the relevant experience. I think the use of the word "haughty" was unprofessional, as was his wording in the earlier email "For the life of me, I cannot understand why you refuse to respond to the series of emails below." These terms shade the business communications into something personal. Much more cool to maintain a haughty distance in your legal writing.
Fani et al not even responding to emails because they felt "disrespected?" Super-unprofessional and, frankly, immature. Suck it up, Buttercup, and respond to the meat of counsel's email requests. You don't get to disengage from your professional responsibilities because you don't like opposing counsel's tone.
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Steve Sadow doesn't do anything he hasn't war-gamed in advance. He is widely known as the best and most media savvy white collar defense lawyer in Georgia. I have observed his cases for decades, admiring his skills, if not his ethics.
is 'colleague' used correctly by this writer?
Haughtiness is not a word somebody, especially a savvy trial lawyer "stumbles into".
This is basically tribalism that a legal system that assumed good faith participation in its design, has no answer for. She has nothing to fear from this; it won't hinder her vendetta against Trump in any significant way.
If you think that the legitimacy of our government is founded on its keeping of the promises that it made in return for its power over our lives, then our government is now illegitimate.
I think that the word uppity has a strong connotation of trying unsuccessfully to rise above the person's own established social position.
In contrast, the word haughty does not necessary indicate upward movement. The person indeed does have a high social position.
Nathan Wade is uppity, since he has been trying to rise above his established status.
Fani Willis is haughty, since she has been acting from her current actual status.
Nothing suggests that Fani Willis and her prosecutorial team have any concept of just how badly they have screwed up. They make the Keystone Cops look good.
I think to label Big Fani as unprofessional is an understatement. When Fani resorted to crying racism (cryin' wolf) you knew she was in trouble. In her mind it was only her defense. She's in trouble.
Labelling Big Fani as haughty is a stroke of genius. It's like pinning the prosecutor as looking down from on high, as though she was part a black supremacy group, her dad being a founding member of a Black Panther faction notwithstanding.
I never associated haughtiness with black people (quite the contrary—I picture an old white Boston Brahmin), so I would never on my own consider that he might have intended it as a triggering word.
More likely, it doesn’t matter what words he used. She was determined to cry racism and was ready to do whatever she needed to find the triggering word.
No, I don’t think it was intentional nor that he stumbled into it. I’m in sales so on new accounts I’m trying to break into, I’m quite used to the stiff arm and nit getting responses after multiple attempts. It is aggravating and generally uncalled for. But you can’t just type what you are really thinking and instead get maybe a bit more formal and professional. Up the game a bit. Use the $10 dollar words verus the nickel and dime ones, but also not those that might be a tad explicit and career limiting.
That word “haughtiness” is a bit provocative but definitely evokes a bit more formality so I suspect that was dropped in as opposed to a more street language word like “bitchy”.
Poor baby.
You note that someone from Willis's office use (real) race-privilege as an excuse for ignoring Sadow's requests but the non-response was (race) neutral professionalism and Sadow provoked Willis's race-privileged response?
Dear friends, please understand that everything done or said in Atlanta on matters political, legal, economic, religious or social is said, heard, reacted to, and analyzed through a racial perspective. Welcome to the capital of the third world.
It's just a word that everyone — almost everyone — knows has been used to put down black people
The word has so little usage it is difficult to tell if there's any truth to this or Ann is just spitballing...
I have observed a significant increase in incompetence in hiring, leading major institutions to be run into the ground since the introduction of DIE. When you hire on the basis of race and not merit you are create opportunity for racial tension and animus.
Five days is a long time for a prosecutor not to respond to emails from a defense attorney. You need to focus on that...
But maybe he stumbled into it and got lucky.
Some would say, "I would rather be lucky than smart."
He’s a lead lawyer, so I think he used the word deliberately. It’s not clear from the snippets here but I’m curious if Young gave examples of the disrespect she claimed. If she didn’t, then she deserved the retort from Sadow. It’s a character thing, not a skin color thing.
My guess also is the delay and racism charges are deflecting from the likely compelling issues raised in the emails. Otherwise, why delay or deflect?
Haughty targets elitists. Bitter clinger targets deplorables. "Burden" targets diversity in human life. All's fair in lust and abortion garners a hat tip to the professionalism of Fani et al.
When facing court deadlines, prompt responses are ethically required. Nonresponse because of perceived racial bias, as here, is unacceptable, unprofessional, and unethical, unless maybe actual racial bias can be shown, and the proper response there is to file a grievance with the bar discipline organization. You don’t screw over your opponent, through failing to respond based on perceived slights, and esp not if you are representing the state in a criminal matter. She hasn’t learned yet, that it isn’t about you, but rather your client. Over the years, I was disrespted numerous times by opposing counsel. That’s just the name of the game. Sometimes, as probably here, opposing counsel is just in a hurry. And sometimes it’s just the way that they practice law. But in my experience, with the latter situation, you can often get the last laugh.
I’m genuinely confused that you believe she has, in the Trump case at least, ever operated under the guise of neutral professionalism.
She’s “dropped” nothing. This is simply a continuation of the way she has behaved throughout, at least publicly. The only thing this email confirms is that she - and apparently her entire office - are behaving this way in their day to day l, behind the scenes work as well.
- Rafe
Refusal to respond to a series of emails during a conflict in a professional setting is pretty fucking irritating. I would say the gentleman exhibited a great deal of restraint in his diction. The run to "racism" is also goddamn irritating. Back to Africa if you can't handle it here! Where is Marcus Garvey when you need him?
Bc you're never allowed to say anything negative about a black person.
Harrumph!
I haven’t been impressed with the strategic thinking of the lawyers Trump tends to hire. I know part of the problem is the efforts to prevent Trump from being able to obtain good legal advice by sullying the reputation of anyone willing to defend him. Still, on this particular event, I think it was a stroke of luck perhaps supported by the carefulness to not use uppity.
Anybody who says "uppity" is haughty.
The DA, when she accused Trump's lawyer of being uppity, in other words, was being haughty.
I say Willis is violating the First Law of Holes, but I guess strong black women in Atlanta do things differently.
Anyhow, here is Jonathan Turley's piece on Willis' latest filing.
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/01/19/fani-willis-accuses-wife-of-alleged-lover-of-being-an-adulterer-and-political-conspirator/
Would "arrogance" have been better? Anything other than "uppity" is devoid of racial connotations.
I don't consider haughtiness to be similar to uppity. I consider it an appropriate word to categorize a prosecutor though: they are the State.
Speaking of haughtiness. I got the impression from the morning news here in Georgia that FW considers the request to testify in her boyfriend’s divorce proceedings as interference of her Trump probe into… interference of the 2020 presidential election in Georgia.
There’s a lot of interference going on out here.
"Haughtiness" isn't remotely like "uppitiness" in my personal lexicon. "Uppity" does have a racial connotation due to long usage; "hauteur" connotes something like royalty, to me. So I don't see the strategy.
That said - I certainly can't rule it out.
But if it has been up to me to comment on her silence, I would have referred to her status as a public servant and - no, wait, that probably also would have... um... garnered (sometimes I can't resist) a racialized response - "servant"?! So maybe her throwing down the race card was inevitable and he chose the word with plausible deniability.
What struck me was her poor writing ("...are both aware, especially as an African American woman some find it difficult...", "...disrespectful and condescending lacking both professionalism and decorum..."). And I almost said "lazy" there instead of "poor," but that also could be racially provoking, couldn't it? So part of the problem must be that black Americans have been disparaged using so many pretty common words that, when you want to insult a black American, it's hard to avoid stepping on a racial rake.
As Glenn Loury often says, the only path forward out of racism grievance is for black people to choose consciously to move past it, even though it's not fair that they should have to. I think it's pretty clear that neither Young nor Willis subscribes to that view.
What an awful mindset that has become the next layer of those holding the race cards. Mr. Sadow probably showed aggression in his earliest emails, as many attorneys would do in defending their client. And like a well-trained recent graduate of Woke U, the black females assume that everyone not a black female is racist and saw his aggression as such. And...his expecting a reply...that's just so white of him, isn't it?
I would not have called it haughtiness. Arrogant, yes, but mostly just ignorant. It is the level of graduates working throughout all industries these days. Race above all else. Above even common sense, above just the basics of civil back and forth. Even traditional arguments in the law reek of this racism so what's one to do but not respond in a white way, but in what they apparently consider the black female way. Ignore the request as if it doesn't exist and hope it all goes away while we work on our own things. Which, in this case happened to be vacations and payouts to a boyfriend.
Nonresponse because of perceived racial bias, as here, is unacceptable, unprofessional, and unethical
It also sounds like an excuse for dropping the ball, since surely the appropriate professional action, if there were actually race-based disrespect perceptible to more than just Young, would have been to send an email immediately saying something like, "I'm declining to respond to your emails because their tone appears to lack the respect that my position demands." That kind of answer would have been haughty, but it would have acknowledged receipt and put forth a reason why she wasn't responding substantively.
Instead, it just looks as if she got caught not doing her job and had to cast about for a pretext.
rehajm said...The word has so little usage it is difficult to tell if there's any truth to this or Ann is just spitballing..
The only example that comes to mind is Clarence Thomas complaining about the high tech lynching of an uppity black man.
I'm sure Trump's mouthpiece was hoping he could get the prosecutors to claim racism sexism. Now the Sun is no longer Lazer focused on his client. Add that to the list of many other bullshit sideshow media circus soap opera Brain damage that needs to be litigated ad infinitum prior to returning to the original charges filed that everyone will soon forget in the mean time.
This isn't the Rudy Sidney keystone cops team of litigators. More like Perry Springer & Matlock.
Bertrand Russell observed that a proud man demands that which he deserves and an arrogant man demands that which he does not deserve. Sadly, Russell did not go on to further explain the difference in connotations of words like uppity, haughty, and arrogant and how the denotations of these words vary widely among different races. Perhaps with the further refinement of AI it will someday be possible to give a better definition than the one Russell provided.
"Would "arrogance" have been better? Anything other than "uppity" is devoid of racial connotations."
I'll ask Professor Simi.
"The word has so little usage it is difficult to tell if...."
It has so little usage because everyone knows its association with racism.
Oldest appearance in print, per OED: "1880 Hit wuz wunner deze yer uppity little Jack Sparrers, I speck. J. C. Harris, Uncle Remus: Songs & Sayings 86"
""Haughtiness" isn't remotely like "uppitiness" in my personal lexicon. "Uppity" does have a racial connotation due to long usage; "hauteur" connotes something like royalty, to me. So I don't see the strategy."
Here's the difference in connotation. "Uppity" is used to criticize a person who's behaving inconsistently with his actual position. "Haughty" is more like, you're in a high position, but you're displaying that you know it.
Fanonization? Does that work both ways?....Fanonization used to be a thing back in the sixties. Iirc, the way it worked was that a Black man was encouraged to act disrespectful to a white person. The response that the white man gave would then reveal the true and honest way, i.e. racist, that he felt about Black people. I'm not sure who's being Fanonized here.....There's a lot of chicken or egg backdrop to many racial grievances.
As a career prosecutor, I've got the relevant experience. I think the use of the word "haughty" was unprofessional, as was his wording in the earlier email "For the life of me" I cannot understand why you refuse to respond to the series of emails below." These terms shade the business communications into something personal. Much more cool to maintain a haughty distance in your legal writing.
Fani et al not even responding to emails because they felt "disrespected?" Super-unprofessional and, frankly, immature. Suck it up, Buttercup, and respond to the meat of counsel's email requests. You don't get to disengage from your professional responsibilities because you don't like opposing counsel's tone.
"I don't consider haughtiness to be similar to uppity. I consider it an appropriate word to categorize a prosecutor though: they are the State."
Yes, that's why, I think Sadow chose it. It rankles, like "uppity," but he has deniability. And strictly on the dictionary meaning, "haughty" describes the prosecutor. She is in a high position, a position of power that is extremely dangerous to her targets, and she is, he wants to say, lording that power.
Let's assume the email requests were written in a disrespectful manner--we haven't seen any sign that they were, but what would be the professional response.
Here's what I would do: Forward the email to the judge and cc the defense attorney. If the offending parts are obvious, simply ask the judge if the prosecuting office need respond to requests which are demanded in an unprofessional manner.
The prosecutor didn't do this, or anything like this. Did she think that, on her own, she could just ignore defense requests? That would be haughty. My theory, based on Human nature, is that she blew-off the request and is now claiming BS disrespect, in a lame effort to cover her ass.
"I’m genuinely confused that you believe she has, in the Trump case at least, ever operated under the guise of neutral professionalism."
I said "guise." I think she must try to display the appropriate demeanor. It's essential to the power that she is exercising. I never said I believed she was neutral. I don't know. Maybe Professor Simi could decode.
Thanks, RigelDog.
I will put that on the front page.
I heartily agree with you.
Playing the race card was very effective for Clarence Thomas in 1991:
“And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. -- U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree.”
It’s been used so often that now it’s seen as a weak move, much like calling someone a Nazi.
BTW, I remember being shocked at the time by his use of “hung” rather than “hanged” but the horse has left the barn on that one.
"Haughtiness" — what a word! So close to "uppity..."
This is how racial bullshit is perpetuated. The man didn't use the word "uppity" but you associate it with him by claiming it is similar to the word he actually used.
He could have used the word "snide" but that's almost a synonym for "bitchy" so he's a misogynist too.
Haughty is an attitude conveyed by someone above you. Uppity is from below.
I would have gone with "shiftless."
I’ve been told that being punctual is a sign of White Privilege, or was it White Supremacy. I’m confuse. Isn’t being responsive sort like being punctual?
Maybe that’s what triggered Young.
Me:
"Uppity" does have a racial connotation due to long usage; "hauteur" connotes something like royalty, to me. So I don't see the strategy.
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Here's the difference in connotation. "Uppity" is used to criticize a person who's behaving inconsistently with his actual position. "Haughty" is more like, you're in a high position, but you're displaying that you know it.
I understand the difference in connotation. I said I didn't see the strategy because, as I read the post, the question was whether Trump's lawyer used the word "haughtiness" to provoke a racialized response. Since "hauteur" doesn't have a racist connotation, it didn't seem to me that the lawyer's strategy was intended to flush out the race card.
But I also said that since it's very easy to get that race card thrown down in this time and in that place, maybe the lawyer's strategy was to assume that she would play it no matter what he said, so he chose a word with plausible deniability.
People who argue without the truth on their side eventually run out of bullshit. Non-email response is not uncommon in the business world. It usually suggests their position is weak, or they have no idea how to respond or what they are doing.
I would imagine this is the case with the GA prosecutors. I'm sure Trump's lawyer is running lapse around them, so they had to pull out the race card.
Let's remember too: When you bury a liberal in an argument or debate, it then becomes disrespectful, racist, or sexist. And like the non response, college campuses take it a step further and use the shout down technique.
The word “sassy” would’ve worked better.
Since defamation seems really popular this week, can Trump's lawyer sue the prosecutors for accusing him of racism?
Hiding behind perceived slights is not a good look on anyone.
"You don't get to disengage from your professional responsibilities because you don't like opposing counsel's tone."
Remember the movie "The Onion Field?" The defense attorney prodded the prosecutor into a frenzy by calmly reciting his grievances to the judge. "Your honor, he directed his face to my co-counsel and said 'fuck you."
Speaking of angry black women lawyers check this thread out. Ted Frank on Twitter
Haughty is the right word for those refusing to respond because they believe they have been disrespected, perhaps the worst crime against a black person, especially if they believe their qualifications are suspect. This woman appears to have haughtiness as a character trait.
Jamie said...
As Glenn Loury often says, the only path forward out of racism grievance is for black people to choose consciously to move past it, even though it's not fair that they should have to. I think it's pretty clear that neither Young nor Willis subscribes to that view.
Choosing to let go of a grievance is the only way for anyone to move forward. Did Loury actually express it as 'not fair'? If so, that's disappointing. He's usually a much better thinker than that.
As far as 'haughty' goes; count me in on the theory that it was chosen to defuse the wording. It's just not a word you encounter much in current American English.
uppity (adj.)
1880, American English, from up + -ity; originally used by blacks of other blacks felt to be too self-assertive (first recorded use is in "Uncle Remus").
- etymonline.com
What did the Xhosa say to the Zulu, the Hutu to the Tutsi, the Kenyan elite to the deplorable, etc. Rabid diversity.
To analyze these political trials strictly within a context of standards of legal profession smells of ignorance with a whiff of politics itself…
I’d want my counsel to understand the arena we’re fighting in…
I don't know what the professional relationship is between Sadow and Willis. As they swim in the same regional professional/social pond, I would assume that they are at least professionally acquainted. So I suspect that Trump's attorney was gaming the entire exchange and hoping for such a reaction. While we are focused on debating whether 'arrogant' or 'uppity' or 'haughty' was the correct term to use, I believe that Sadow had created his own character in this play as part of eliciting this reaction - a boy's club white boy being overly casual / familiar in a professional setting. Insulting perhaps, but within the bounds of professional behavior. 'For the life of me' he says. So: They were both role-playing, but I think Sadow has a better insight on how the reaction would unfold. Maybe in the world of Fanni Willis and Ben Crumb, the black legal-activist circles, the race card is carte blanche and its effects assured. But maybe in the world of the Trump persecutory prosecutions, it doesn't assert precedence.
Naughty and haughty - not a good look.
It has so little usage because everyone knows its association with racism.
I argue they are archaic and nobody cares but since the insistence of the existence of racism perhaps yes they were a trap and she did throw counsel into the briar patch…
Plus-one for Sadow. He's got Willis' office off-track and into name-calling. They're spending their time racializing the defense instead of dealing with the process. Willis' office had best focus on next month's hearing on the allegations against her, but they're augering in....
White men can't jump. People of Orange (PoO) won't take a knee, beg, ... Albinos should celebrate White phobia in parades, on banners, etc. Black women engaged in adultery, conspiracy, and defrauding the People can't be bothered to respond to people... persons beneath her station, etc. The diverse routes of progressive provocation. #HateLovesAbortion
Fani is a fraud.
Haughty is a biblical word. "Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall." (Pr 16.18) So it's a word that would have resonance with anyone who goes to black churches where black preachers warn against haughtiness.
The DA slaps down the race card - very early, too - and the defense counters with the colorblind "Ms. RichB.tch" card which is a new one in race battles. "You aren't a poor down-trodden black woman, you with your Alaskan trips and New York clothes and your husband-stealing ways, you're a downtown empty dress, running around trampling on the little people like all the other empty suits." Whump. See what she answers.
“For the life of me, I cannot understand why you refuse to respond to the series of emails below.”
If you have to send more than one email, you should have used the phone. Also, I’m pretty sure there is a whole system of court filings that enable you to communicate with the other side of a legal case and get responses by a required date.
There are rules. You must dance a delicate dance around the black whoopi female.
If you rip the mask off - you will find a whiny white leftist.
Pride - and haughtiness - is one of the seven deadly sins.
I’m pretty sure there is a whole system of court filings that enable you to communicate with the other side of a legal case and get responses by a required date.
Tell me you're not a litigator without saying you're not a litigator.
Athouse said: "I'll ask Professor Simi.". This will be a very useful tag line for all kinds of BS. I'm going to use it (with attribution) here. But only here, because I'm sure the reference will be lost elsewhere.
If, as several commentators have asserted upthread, defense lawyer Steven Sadow gamed out his interaction with Fani Willis, he succeeded amazingly. The notion advanced by Fani Willis and reinforced by Daysha Young that it is perfectly all right to treat a defense lawyer of a different race in an unprofessional manner should earn them disbarment.
Naughty and haughty
Yes, naughty was the load, and haughty was the trigger pulled that caused Fani to jump - jump, not hump, NAACP - into affirmative action, to emerge from her hole - hole, not whore, NAACP - and launch - launch, not lynch, NAACP - her public campaign to relieve her diverse - number and color - "burdens" h/t Obama... uh, burdens.
You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. -- U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree.”
BTW, I remember being shocked at the time by his use of “hung” rather than “hanged” but the horse has left the barn on that one.
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you are way off on distinguishing between hanged and hung
game meat is hung [which is what lynchmob view of target]
a prisoner may be hanged after judicial process hopefully justly
You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. -- U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree.”
BTW, I remember being shocked at the time by his use of “hung” rather than “hanged” but the horse has left the barn on that one.
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you are way off on distinguishing between hanged and hung
game meat is hung [which is what lynchmob view of target]
a prisoner may be hanged after judicial process hopefully justly
No one I know of has wielded the word “haughty” better and more effectively than James Taranto two decades ago as he would routinely describe John Kerry as the ““haughty, French-looking Democrat, who by the way served in Vietnam.”
Still makes me laugh.
The race card is often dealt from the bottom of the deck--sort of the last refuge of a scoundrel.
But it's interesting to watch the little Fani and Boy Toy Soap Opera play out in Fulton County. Fani and her Boy Toy's (maybe) wronged wife are getting ready to go at it hammer and tongs. Fani suggests that her Boo's wife had an affair first and that the wife's dalliance was the cause of the divorce. There's going to be an epic slanging match. Since all involved are Black, I don't know how much use the race card will be.
"RigelDog said:As a career prosecutor, I've got the relevant experience. I think the use of the word "haughty" was unprofessional, as was his wording in the earlier email ...."
As a former career prosecutor, I would say that the conduct of a prosecutor has nothing to do with the "professionalism" of the defense. Defense attorneys are frequently unprofessional. So what! The professional standards applicable to prosecutors are higher and independent of defense provocation.
This is apparently not true of Democrat prosecutors whether Soros scofflaws or DOJ sleazebags. Fani and company have apparently added a new defense to prosecutorial misconduct, "black privilege", or maybe "black female privilege."
Fani Willis sat on the wall, Fani Willis had a great fall, all of the Democrat asses, and all of the braying journolists, couldn't elevate Fani Willis to her haughty heights, again.
Do we know if skin color, and/or social class, was the haughty motive? Uppity was used by blacks to denigrate other blacks who deigned to present a character that surpassed their pay grade... station, a crab in the bucket effect.
Haute couture - Haute couture, a phrase that exudes the epitome of fashion refinement, holds far more significance than its literal translation of "high dressmaking" from French (haute meaning high, and couture meaning dressmaking).
Here's her thinking. White racists criticize Black people. She's a Black person. She has been criticized by a white person. Ergo that person is a racist....You may detect a flaw in her argument, but you're not the audience she's addressing. The people she addressed at that Black church found her reasoning to be impeccable. She might lose her case, but she won't lose her audience.
I recall parents using “uppity” while discussing expected behavior with their children.
Blacks are ill-equipped to live in a modern, Western society.
They prove it themselves every day.
If you can't do your job without having a magical race card in your pocket (no accountability and no chance of being fired), then you are part of the problem.
Get rid of all DEI, all affirmative action, and all quotas.
Every company should test every employee for both IQ and for specific job skills.
Hire on that basis.
PS. So-called 'brown people' are constantly linked with blacks, yet I almost never hear a Hispanic person bitch and moan about racism. Whatever pressure groups they have are certainly much lower-key than the NAACP, for example. And as for illegal aliens, I take my hat off to illegal Hispanics in this regard; they work their asses off.
Haughty = John Kerry.
He's White.
Choosing to let go of a grievance is the only way for anyone to move forward. Did Loury actually express it as 'not fair'? If so, that's disappointing. He's usually a much better thinker than that.
First sentence - absolutely true, which was his point: in the case of race, nothing a white person can do or say can cause an offended person of color to stop being offended; the offended person has to choose to do that herself.
Loury doesn't use the word "fair," IIRC. The sense of what he says is more, "The past is the past and no amount of grievance-flogging in the present can erase it. Slavery was a travesty. Jim Crow was an injustice. Racism was and, where it still actually occurs, still is wrong. But there is no way to move forward, to build instead of tearing down, except for us, the formerly transgressed against, to let past wrongs go. Holding onto them hurts us."
Shorter: I think it was on this thread that someone said, "Suck it up, Buttercup." Also, "Life isn't fair."
I am a white, middle-aged, male professional. I have never known "haughty" or "haughtiness" to used to put down black people.
I can't remember the last time that I observed an action that I perceived to be racist. To me, the exchange that Althouse cited is an example of the black female attorneys asserting racist conduct without evidence.
"In the legal community (and the world at large) some people will never be able to respect African Americans ...".
She hit that one out of the park.
“ I said "guise." I think she must try to display the appropriate demeanor. It's essential to the power that she is exercising. I never said I believed she was neutral. I don't know. Maybe Professor Simi could decode.”
Yes. I acknowledged you said guise. I said what I said, and meant it: publicly, she has not even operated under the *guise* of professional neutrality.
- Rafe
I miss Best of the Web too Meade
James Taranto ... would routinely describe John Kerry as the ““haughty, French-looking Democrat, who by the way served in Vietnam.”
Best of the Web was absolutely must-see reading every day back then. He might have sent a few early visitors to this blog too.
It’s been used so often that now it’s seen as a weak move, much like calling someone a Nazi.
Only when objected to by conservative or free-thinking blacks like Thomas.
It's still a magic talisman of great power to be called upon in times of trouble by corrupt or incompetent left-wing blacks in big-city politics and government, not to mention the ordinary apolitical urban black who has never in his life voted without the assistance of a vote-harvesting ward-heeler handing out packs of cigarettes.
It's astonishing these days how many Orthodox Jews and elderly Asian ladies are going around insulting groups of large, menacing, young black men with racially insensitive slurs, and getting hospitalized or killed in the resulting beatdowns. If the Soros DAs fail to file charges against the beaters, or all-black juries find them innocent by reason of temporary racial insanity, well, that's just well-deserved judicial reparations.
Some black lives matter... Nobody else's does....
It’s been used so often that now it’s seen as a weak move, much like calling someone a Nazi.
Only when objected to by conservative or free-thinking blacks like Thomas.
It's still a magic talisman of great power to be called upon in times of trouble by corrupt or incompetent left-wing blacks in big-city politics and government, not to mention the ordinary apolitical urban black who has never in his life voted without the assistance of a vote-harvesting ward-heeler handing out packs of cigarettes.
It's astonishing these days how many Orthodox Jews and elderly Asian ladies are going around insulting groups of large, menacing, young black men with racially insensitive slurs, and getting hospitalized or killed in the resulting beatdowns. If the Soros DAs fail to file charges against the beaters, or all-black juries find them innocent by reason of temporary racial insanity, well, that's just well-deserved judicial reparations.
Some black lives matter... Nobody else's does....
The race card is often dealt from the bottom of the deck--sort of the last refuge of a scoundrel.
First. It's the FIRST refuge these days.
Resentment is like swallowing poison, and then waiting for the other person to die.
"As for the rich in this present age, charge them not to be haughty...." 1 Timothy 6:17
You marks, suckers, stooges, mugs, rubes, gulls, etc love examining every leaf and needle on a few trees.
"Haughtiness" — what a word! So close to "uppity," and yet even "uppity" is not overtly racist. It's just a word that everyone — almost everyone — knows has been used to put down black people.
@Althouse, so in your mind the word “haughty” and its variants is somehow racist-adjacent? Always remember, Professor, thst if you can hear the dog whistle then it’s you who are the dog.
Only the hot--like the lass in the other post--should be haughty.
in this context, what is the definition of "is"
super important stuff here.
If you have to send more than one email, you should have used the phone.
Bullshit. It's not his job to hold her hand.
A man can be both "hung" and "hanged" in certain circumstances. Well, not all men. Some of us will get the needle.
RigelDog said:
As a career prosecutor, I've got the relevant experience. I think the use of the word "haughty" was unprofessional, as was his wording in the earlier email "For the life of me, I cannot understand why you refuse to respond to the series of emails below." These terms shade the business communications into something personal. Much more cool to maintain a haughty distance in your legal writing.
Respect has to be earned. If the prosecutors were not responding to emails in a professional manner, showering them with contempt is highly appropriate.
Esp. since this case is complete crap.
If you have to send more than one email, you should have used the phone.
Wrong. They can lie to you over the phone. But if they tell you X in an email. and then try to pull "not X", the fact that you have it in writing can be used against them.
Part of her problem is charging too many people. Trump surely paid to dig up the dirt but gave it to a secondary indictee to pursue. It would be too easy to play the "mean tweet man" card elsewise.
Trump's lawyer strategically employed the word "haughtiness" to potentially provoke a reaction and undermine professionalism.
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Trump's lawyer strategically employed the word "haughtiness" to potentially provoke a reaction and undermine professionalism.
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