July 12, 2022

"If there’s one consolation in Biden’s age, it’s that he can step aside without conceding failure. There’s no shame in not running for president in your 80s."

"He emerged from semiretirement to save the country from a second Trump term, and for that we all owe him a great debt. But now we need someone who can stand up to the still-roiling forces of Trumpism. There are plenty of possibilities: If Vice President Kamala Harris’s approval ratings remain underwater, Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators they can turn to. Biden said, during the 2020 campaign, that he wanted to be a 'bridge' to a new generation of Democrats. Soon it will be time to cross it."

That's the end of the new Michelle Goldberg column, "Joe Biden Is Too Old to Be President Again" (NYT).

There's a link on "underwater" and "bridge" but not on "a number of charismatic governors and senators." I wonder who that refers to but guess that they sound more charismatic without names attached. Those wonderful governors and senators out there somewhere. Gavin Newsom, presumably. One is a number, after all. Two can be as bad as one. 

Anyway, did the NYT notice the ambiguity in the headline. Does it mean he wasn't too old the first time, but if he wants to be "president again," we must inform him that now he's aged out? Or does it mean he was too old before and he's too old again?

101 comments:

Buckwheathikes said...

Joe Biden isn't too old to do anything.

It's that he's too senile to be president. And I'm not saying not to be the president again in 2024.

He's too senile to be the president right now.

We have the 25th Amendment for a reason and this man's cabinet needs to step up to their responsibilities to the country. They swore an oath to protect the country ... not to protect Joe Biden.

Kevin said...

The focus on Biden is to take the focus off the failure of the Democrats’ policies.

Bumbling, stuttering Joe would not be too old if the country were on the right track.

Wince said...

Biden, Harris and Newsom: Three Dog Woke?

Buckwheathikes said...

There's a link on "underwater" and "bridge" but not on "a number of charismatic governors and senators." I wonder who that refers to

"The party of Ted Kennedy probably shouldn't be reminding people about bridges and being under water." - Mary Jo Kopeckne

Kevin said...

Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators they can turn to.

The better messenger fallacy is the force holding the Democratic Party together.

No matter how badly things are going, it’s always a communications problem.

Jefferson's Revenge said...

There is not one segment of the US that is doing better than 3 years ago in any capacity. Joe has been a puppet for the policies of progressives and, from all perspectives, those policies have brought disaster and ruin throughout America; inflation, crime, fentanyl, war, and well, the list keeps going on to the horizon.

Yet we owe Joe an eternal debt of gratitude for getting rid of Trump???

Tom T. said...

Dumping the first black VP for a white candidate would not go over well with certain core constituencies.

ElPresidenteCastro said...

How do I know that the Left is ready to give Biden the heave ho?

Because the Hunter Biden leaks aren't being repressed and are even being discussed by the Left. And to think two years ago they were ready to die on that hill.

Right now the Left is concerned about maintaining their own reputations for having supported Biden, rather than any thought for the reputation of Biden himself.

michaele said...

I know this is expressing the obvious....Biden saved us from low inflation, reasonable food and gas prices, no land grabs resulting in war from the leaders of other countries, and improved security on our southern border. The list literally goes on and on. I'll take MAGA over the "new liberal world order" any day even if some of Trump's tweets made me wince.

RideSpaceMountain said...

"Without conceding failure"

That is so rich it's wealthy. I guess the NYT doesn't feel they're the proper organ to proclaim a presidency an abysmal failure. They'll leave that to the New Yorker.

tim in vermont said...

Joe Biden's approval in 18-25 demographic is under 20%. This is part of the reason there is a recruiting crisis in the military at the same time we are forcing ten percent of our military out for not getting jabbed, literally decimating it. Meanwhile all of the neocons are not Democrats.

J Melcher said...

The bench of Democratic governors? Well, the most important issue for a candidate is name-recognition. There's Mario Cuomo, who is very famous for reasons. There is Gretchen Whitmer. Then there is... hmmm

JB Pritzker is kinda famous for being a billionaire before entering politics. Name sounds like a Covid vaccine, which might or might not help with the voters' recognition issue. He has the same sort of reputation for earning his office as Kamala Harris, except with Rod Blagojevich instead of Willie Brown. Everybody in media has forgotten "Tony" Rezko so that's no help.

Ann, what would you think about Tony Evers making a grab for national office? He looks older than he is. He has a background that seemingly qualifies him to weigh in on all the school district / board / leadership issues now making news. Does he have name recognition outside Wisconsin? (The lack of that seemed to hinder Scott Walker fromthe GOP side during the 2016 primaries)

Here we have the perennial Beto O'Rourke who keeps gaining experience in how to run campaigns. Maybe he can try for the White House?


Krumhorn said...

Biden didn’t save us from Trump. Leftie vote harvesters and indiscriminate blank ballot mass mailings deprived us of Trump.

- Krumhorn

RMc said...

Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators they can turn to.

Name one. (I'll wait.)

TreeJoe said...

To an above poster who mentioned Hunter Biden now being talked about openly.....never forget 2 years ago Intelligence officials publicly declaimed the Biden laptop as being Russian disinformation despite that story coming from named sources, a local business with a long public presence, and a full background story comprehensively sourced.

If anything, the new Hunter Biden data leak is nothing like the laptop story.

Mr Wibble said...

We have the 25th Amendment for a reason and this man's cabinet needs to step up to their responsibilities to the country. They swore an oath to protect the country ... not to protect Joe Biden.

They can't. The Dems would need GOP support to make the 25th Amendment work, and even then, it doesn't remove Biden from office, just makes Harris "Acting President" for as long as they can sustain it. There's no way that doesn't lead to a Dem civil war.

pious agnostic said...

Buckwheathikes said...
....They swore an oath to protect the country ... not to protect Joe Biden.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!

*gasp*

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!

Mr Wibble said...

I suspect that there was an agreement originally that Biden would step back after the first year, to allow Harris to become the face of the Admin before his resignation in 2023. The problem is that if he leaves now, he will be judged a failure and he knows it. Biden, or the people around him, also realize that Harris will be a disaster as well.

How do I know that the Left is ready to give Biden the heave ho?

Because the Hunter Biden leaks aren't being repressed and are even being discussed by the Left. And to think two years ago they were ready to die on that hill.


I still think they'll try to force him out before the midterms, if it looks like they're going to get slaughtered. Some new information about Hunter's dealings will come to light, and the Dem leadership will soberly announce that it calls for the appointment of a special prosecutor. Biden will be quietly told that if he steps aside, it will all go away.

wendybar said...

Trying to do whatever they can to keep Trump out. PERIOD. EVerything else they are doing is NOT working.

AMDG said...

The message of the 2020 elections was quite clear. The gains they made in the house as well as keeping the Senate (if Trump had not given us Senators Warnock and Ossoff) indicate that the electorate did n9t like Trump but were okay with his,policies.

All Joe had to do was not be Trump. It would have been an easier gig than being Vice President. Just sit around all day eating tapioca and watching Matlock and Murder She Wrote.

As for a strong Democrat bench - no. They really do not have anybody. Their most attractive and charismatic candidate is hobbled by his color, his gender, his state, and his belief that rules do not apply to him.

R C Belaire said...

The entire situation would humorous if there wasn't so much at stake, When Biden/Harris complete their task of unwinding much of the good Trump did, we will have lost 8 years of economic growth, not to mention a much larger debt.

Heartless Aztec said...

Kamala as President? Pure comedy gold. As a nation you can't say we aren't getting our moneys worth from the Democrat Comedy Travelling Road Show.

tim maguire said...

now we need someone who can stand up to the still-roiling forces of Trumpism

Yeah, that's the biggest problem we face today--the roiling forces of Trumpism. Is it possible they are as ignorant as they sound? Or are they just casual liars? Demented fools? Emotional children? (Yes, I know, "the healing power of 'and'," but "and" doesn't answer the real question.)

Shoeless Joe said...

The NY Times isn't trying to shove Biden overboard because his senility is hurting the country. They're trying to shove him overboard because his senility is hurting the Democratic Party's chances in the next election.

The Left would burn this country to the ground if they could be sure to rule the ashes.

John henry said...

Perhaps it's time for everyone to admit that Brandon didn't win in 2020. Then we can start to make things right.

Get rid of kamala and make pedjt vp. Then get rid of Biden.

As a consolation prize to the demmies, do it in 22 and pdjt could not run in 24.

Better would be to wait till January so he serves less than 2 years of the stub term. Then he can be reelected in 24. He'll be able to serve 10 years total.

John "Trump 23!"Henry

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Biden need not “concede failure” by the act of stepping aside but his record speaks for itself and the problem is he has been pushing the exact agenda Democrats campaigned for with the disastrous results that were so predictable that Trump is on record in 2020 predicting we’d be here with sky high inflation driven by anti-oil policies. Cheap plentiful oil built the wealthy lifestyle Americans enjoyed pre-Biden. We know the way back and not one D governor or Senator is going to take America in the right direction. It’s not Biden’s inability to “sell” or communicate; it’s the policies themselves that are the problem.

Mr Wibble said...

Yeah, that's the biggest problem we face today--the roiling forces of Trumpism. Is it possible they are as ignorant as they sound? Or are they just casual liars? Demented fools? Emotional children? (Yes, I know, "the healing power of 'and'," but "and" doesn't answer the real question.)

"We" in this case means the left. They're realizing in horror that Biden may drag them down, and if Trump is reelected in '24 it will be the ultimate vindication for him. In fact, they may very well strengthen Trumpism by comparison to their incompetence.

John henry said...

Buchwheathikes,

No, they did not take an oath to protect the country.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Extremely critical distinction

John LGBTQBNY Henry

Jersey Fled said...

If I remember correctly Biden still has an approval rating in the mid to high 60's with self identified Democrats.

Who are these people?

My working hypothesis is they are in fact alien shape shifters who have been sent here to destroy our planet and harvest us for food,

Jersey Fled said...

Added comments: (re: alien shape shifters)

Kamala is clearly one of them. Joe is one of their earlier failures who didn't quite turn out right.

Left Bank of the Charles said...

Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker is 65, prochoice, and the most popular governor in America.

Sebastian said...

"we all owe him a great debt"

High inflation, wild spending, open borders, Afghanistan fiasco, Putin's minor incursion, squashing energy production, senile public performances--quite a "debt." OK, so for progs inflation-fueling budget-busting is a feature, not a bug--but really, apart from beating DJT, what positive things has Biden done for progs?

"Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators"

Such as?

Temujin said...

"Two can be as bad as one." Hilarious. This will be a case where it will most certainly apply.

I started by reading your post and guessing who wrote it. I didn't guess Michelle Goldberg, though I should have. A stupid error. The comment that "he can step aside without conceding failure" is so numbingly obtuse, it should have pointed me to her immediately. But alas, there are so many to choose from.

In what world is Joe Biden's time in any given day anything less than failure? This is the most embarrassingly dangerous Presidency of my lifetime. 68 years of it. One has to wonder if Michelle is just plain stupid, or if she's just so much a Party member that she'll say and write anything to stay in the good graces of The Party. She'd have made a great Soviet. And still might, someday.

Will Cate said...

Wince said...
Biden, Harris and Newsom: Three Dog Woke?

Ann giving props to the late, great Harry Nilsson

DINKY DAU 45 said...

Retirement age is 67? No president elected after 67. House and Senate people 80 plus, absurd. FIX IT. Term limits in all aspects of government including SCOTUS the best idea to be working for people instead of working toward reelection. LIFETIME appointments ridiculous. FIX IT. Yeah, I know, good luck.

RoseAnne said...

He emerged from semiretirement to save the country from a second Trump term, and for that we all owe him a great debt.

The Biden presidency as already cost Americans a great deal of money. Any debt owed is from him to the American people.

rehajm said...

...they act and talk and think like people unencumbered with the political obligation to earn the voter's approval.

Why do you suppose that is...

tim in vermont said...

One thing Biden has done is made Obama look a lot better.

Gusty Winds said...

He emerged from semiretirement to save the country from a second Trump term, and for that we all owe him a great debt.

Well...seeing how Biden is driving most of the country into further great debt, Michelle Goldberg might be on to something here.

Actually, he was probably the only one corrupt enough to take the oath of office knowingly “elected” by targeted voter fraud. Although he is so senile he just might believe he received 81 million legal votes. Plausible deniability. He was also the only one that could be controlled by Obama's assigned handlers.

Leland said...

NYT and Michelle Goldberg are getting ruthless. “Hey Biden, it is ok to recognize you are too old to lead, but buck up buttercup, it is a good excuse that we will use instead of noting how much a failure you are.”

Inquiry said...

There's a purely practical problem with Biden stepping aside. The Democrats lose the Vice President spot and most importantly the tie breaking Senate vote. Appointing a new VP requires a majority Senate vote and without a tie breaker the Democrats can't muster that on their own. They have to rely on Republicans letting Harris have a VP and that's not worth the risk. Yet.

Given how much press coverage Biden's age is suddenly getting, that calculus may be changing before our eyes.

gilbar said...

i too would like to see a list of this "charismatic governors" ?
Kristi Noem? Kim Reynolds? Ron DeSantis? Glenn Youngkin? (Winsome Sears!)

Gusty Winds said...

The best thing that can continue to happen for Ron DeSantis, is for liberals to keep obsessively beating the we hate Trump drum.

gilbar said...

recruiting goals are only 40% filled (for every 100 people they need, they got 40).
Because of this; the army is now taking people with gang tattoos on their neck and face.
People without a high school diploma (or a GED).
people with HIV.
That's right,
The military is SO Desperate for bodies, that they'll accept an HIV+, highschool dropout, gang member..
BUT! 24,000 troops are being kicked out, because they haven't got vaccinated

Soon the ONLY people in the military will be gangbangers from the hoods, with woke trannie officers
flaw? or feature?

TreeJoe said...

This man was elected less than 2 years ago when he minimized public appearances and unscripted moments, stayed in a basement for most of the campaign, and had a 4 decade history of mis-speaking and lying. His age and decline was evident then and I, unexpectedly, haven't seen real further decline in the 18+ months since he started as President. I think that actually speaks to his. Everyone now commenting on his age is not seeing anything different than they saw during the campaign and is saying he needs to step down before half of his term is up. How intellectually dishonest.

Basically, they are saying we felt more comfortable electing a senile and diminished old man but once he was elected he needs to leave.

Scotty, beam me up... said...

What??? No tag for Three Dog Night???!!! You may have to, Ann, with your comment “Two can be as bad as one” as it’s the loneliest number since the number one…and Biden’s percentage of Democrat supporters according to polls are heading downwards towards the number one (percent).

narciso said...

palin, warned about all this, including the ukraine invasion 14 years ago, she was dubbed a christianist for her troubles, assaulted on her property and person, insinuations of adultery and drug abuse, in short everything progs do as a matter of course,

gilbar said...

Jersey Fled said...
If I remember correctly Biden still has an approval rating in the mid to high 60's with self identified Democrats.
Who are these people?
They are Yellow Dogs! Yellow Dogs pretending to be people. Who Else would answer a poll call?

gilbar said...

i, for one, do NOT want to be eaten by yellow dogs!

Mr. D said...

Those wonderful governors and senators out there somewhere.

They are all around you in Madison. Imagine a Tony Evers for President groundswell, or a “Tammy ‘24” juggernaut. Or perhaps the Dems could market sputtering Tim Walz, or the dashing J.B. Pritzker, or scowling Gretchen Whitmer?

MayBee said...

Remember when Biden was campaigning from his basement and talking to empty warehouses with circles on the floor for the camera men....and Republicans were warned that attributing this to his declining mental capacity was going to alienate older voters?

Well, why isn't this going to alienate older voters? Is it because...that was always a farce meant to brush the GOP back from the plate?

tim in vermont said...

The weapon of non stop ridicule has taken its toll, no time to stop now. He can't defend himself, this man who flunked third grade, and has had his brain opened up to air twice. He is not a "decent human being" it's just that truly decent human beings can't bring themselves to honestly evaluate the evidence that his a a bumbling idiot, corrupt, and almost certainly a pedophile to boot.

tim in vermont said...

Stacy Abrams is on their list of "charismatic governors" because questioning elections is only bad when we do it.

Big Mike said...

(1) Joe Biden is a failure, whether he concedes it or not.

{2) I know people older than Joe Biden who seem more mentally on the ball. It’s not his age, it’s that he never was the sharpest rack in the bulletin board and he never was up to the demands of the job.

(3) Donald Trump should let go of 2020 — beyond making sure it ever happens to him again! — and start explaining what he and a GOP House and Senate will do to fix all the things Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have broken since January 2021. Whoever wins in 2024 had best set his mind to working.

narciso said...

he wasn't elected they stole the country in ten rotten boroughs, atlanta, detroit, milwaukee,
maricopa county, philadelphia pittsburg, racine, im sure a few others come to mind, in order to wreck the country,

Joe Smith said...

He 'saved' the country?

This is like a verbal 'How it started, how it's going' meme...

Aggie said...

Joe & President Jill Biden and Kamala Harris are what happens to a political party when they repeat their billsh*t so pervasively and so often, they start to believe it themselves. The smart Democrats left the front lines some time ago, and are quietly waiting in the back trenches for the Front to fall. It's the dumb ones that are making the choices now, and it really shows.

robother said...

So, you're saying Charlie Baker's Able?

Lurker21 said...

Biden said, during the 2020 campaign, that he wanted to be a 'bridge' to a new generation of Democrats.

Bill Clinton? "Bridge to the future?" Plagiarist Pete strikes again. But even Clinton was just turning around Bod Dole's "Let me be your bridge to the past."

Some of those "charismatic" governors, representatives, and mayors made it into Biden's cabinet. They've proven themselves to be incompetent or uninvolved, and aren't any advertisement for the Democrats talent pool.

Mark said...

Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators they can turn to

So the racist and misogynist Michelle Goldberg thinks that the racist and misogynist Democrat Party is going to dump the HISTORIC FIRST BLACK WOMAN Vice President?

Rusty said...

You don't have to concede failure if you started out a failure. By now everyone knows he's a failure. Even the usual suspects know they made a huge mistake. Even if they won't admit it to themselves.

Jupiter said...

Michelle Goldberg was born in 1975. There's no shame in being an empty-headed skank when you were born in 1975. At least, not if you're Michelle Goldberg.

MayBee said...

Let's also take this moment to analyze how deeply the "It's a stutter" excuse permeated everything. I think it's really important to think about. We saw an excuse be created, even though most of us have seen Biden in politics for decades. We knew he didn't have stutter, then we suddenly knew he'd had a lifelong stutter.

Look how easily a lie is created, held close, and becomes a fact. Even though we could all see (or could have seen, if some of us weren't believing the stutter thing) what was really the cause of Biden's problems, and what is being acknowledged now.

Bender said...

I suspect that there was an agreement originally that Biden would step back after the first year, to allow Harris to become the face of the Admin before his resignation in 2023

Lady MacBiden would NEVER have agreed to that. She's worked hard to get this power, even at the expense of abusing her husband. She would not and will not go easily.

Lars Porsena said...

The same media that foisted this bilious windbag on the public are now greasing the skids for his 'honorable' exit.

Jefferson's Revenge said...

Aggie said-Joe & President Jill Biden and Kamala Harris are what happens to a political party when they repeat their billsh*t so pervasively and so often, they start to believe it themselves. The smart Democrats left the front lines some time ago, and are quietly waiting in the back trenches for the Front to fall. It's the dumb ones that are making the choices now, and it really shows.

I think this is very true. I think that in 2022 and 2024, the D's will put up token candidates knowing that they will be defeated. That will wipe out the Progressive Wing. The AOC's and Bernies have outlived their usefulness. The Purge is coming and the true leaders of the D party will move their chess pieces and find some way to start regaining control in 2026 by re-taking the House in a R administration.

The D's have always been about power. The R's have always been about money. At some point you have enough money. You never have enough power. That is why the D's are dangerous. They take a long term view.

Yancey Ward said...

Michelle Goldberg can go fuck herself.

hombre said...

Goldberg remains true to form lauding the end of Trump's border control, high employment for minorities, energy independence, etc., upon the return of QuidProJoe.

She may see "charismatic" replacements for Biden, but she will be hard pressed to find any who are competent and untainted among the Democrat elite.

Bernie Sanders, Hunter Biden and Merrick Garland are the faces of the New Democrat Party; a commie, a grifting crackhead and a corrupt law enforcement official.

Impressive!

Jersey Fled said...

The National Federation of Independent Businesses small business optimism index fell in July to its lowest level since its inception 48 years ago.

From Investopedia:

"The survey also found that small business owners expecting better business conditions over the next six months decreased seven points to a net negative 61%, the lowest level recorded in the survey’s 48-year history. Expectations for better business conditions have worsened every month this year."

Chalk up another one for the Big Guy.

Bender said...

The D's have always been about power. The R's have always been about money.

The R's have always been about money?

It is true that the D's have always been about power (and money too), but if the R's were ever about money, they haven't been for a while. Maybe the Establishment types -- well, actually, I don't know what the hell they are about, they are the biggest group of do-nothings we've seen in a while. The R Establishment does seem to place a priority on being liked by the people whose boots they lick.

chickelit said...

The recent SCOTUS decision pote de our political near future: Substantially weakened federal powers and more power back to the states. Part of me hopes that Biden runs again and becomes even weaker and more ineffectual, or that Harris is installed to become an even worse president. Let a substantial part of the existing power structure revert to the states, including defense.

Jefferson's Revenge said...

Big Mike said this-(3) Donald Trump should let go of 2020 — beyond making sure it ever happens to him again! — and start explaining what he and a GOP House and Senate will do to fix all the things Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have broken since January 2021. Whoever wins in 2024 had best set his mind to working.

And that is dead on accurate and why I lean DeSantis. Run in 2024 on what you will do in 2024. Fix the mess. I am tired of 2020. We know what happened and that the only way he can insure it won't happen again is to win on 2024. His platform can't be "I got screwed. Vote for me!" I say that knowing he did probably get screwed, as did we. But by 2024, people will be in need of tangible solutions, not some Shakespearean revenge tragedy.

Static Ping said...

Senile and stupid is no way to go through life.

But apparently you can grow up to be President of the United States that way.

Michael K said...

"He emerged from semiretirement to save the country from a second Trump term, and for that we all owe him a great debt.

And we are getting a great debt every year. In the trillions. Old Democrats like Biden have no idea of economics. Spending trillions is just buying votes, a Democrat standby since Boss Tweed. The greenies among them have another plan which will destroy agriculture and much of western prosperity. Starvation is their strategy. Look at Holland and Sri Lanka. Hungry beggars are easier to rule. Even Samantha Power, US AID Director, described the plan. Use manure and compost as fertilizer. Of course, if you are going to ban Nitrogen like the Dutch PM, manure is not so plentiful. This whole thing sounds more like Tom Clancy's "Rainbow Six" every year. Kill off about 6 billion people and enjoy nature for the rich.

Static Ping said...

All we are seeing here is that Biden has become extremely unpopular due to his utter incompetence at anything that does not involve getting votes or graft. The fact that he is also obviously senile and was obviously senile during the campaign makes this worse, but he is surrounded by presumably non-senile true believers in his incompetence so that only goes so far. However, his utter incompetence and, by extension, the utter incompetence of his party cannot be publicly admitted by the "elite," given the party is both their religion and and their money train, so we get this wishy-washy "he's too old" excuse. An honest assessment would be to admit that Biden was a loser 50 years ago and is even more so now, that no one sane would ever have considered him to be worthy of public office at any point, and your ideas do not work. But that would require both intelligence and principles.

We have the worst leadership class in our history. It cannot hold. When Donald Trump, a man with a long list of obvious flaws and weaknesses, proves to be far superior in every way than the "respectable" failures of our ruling class, the rot is deep.

Yancey Ward said...

"Senile and stupid is no way to go through life.

But apparently you can grow up to be President of the United States that way."


Or write for the NYTimes.

Fred Drinkwater said...

Jersey fled,
I know of a local firm, whose clients tend to be optimistic and forward-looking by nature, which has seen its sales collapse this quarter. The clients are holding their cash reserves.

Original Mike said...

"Biden said, during the 2020 campaign, that he wanted to be a 'bridge' to a new generation of Democrats. Soon it will be time to cross it.""

I'm picturing the Tacoma Narrows bridge.

Michael K said...

Big Mike said this-(3) Donald Trump should let go of 2020 — beyond making sure it ever happens to him again! — and start explaining what he and a GOP House and Senate will do to fix all the things Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have broken since January 2021. Whoever wins in 2024 had best set his mind to working.

And that is dead on accurate and why I lean DeSantis.


Yup. It is past time from Trump to concentrate on solutions to the chaos that grips our country today. I agree the 2020 election was stolen. Now it's time to move on and make sure vote fraud is limited. AND start outlining some policy changes. Settle Ukraine, which would have never happened if Trump had been re-elected. Restart our energy sector.

Rabel said...

There's a clip from Sunday's Meet the Press in which the panelists (including Rich Lowery of National Review) are practically begging for someone to assassinate Donald Trump before the 2024 election.

"Our only hope is that he dies."

It was not a Dog Whistle, it was a Call to Arms. Chuck Todd led the mob.

Two days after Abe's assassination.

Drago said...

Michael K: "Yup. It is past time from Trump to concentrate on solutions to the chaos that grips our country today. I agree the 2020 election was stolen. Now it's time to move on and make sure vote fraud is limited."

What is going to stop the dems from doing it again? The Kemp/Raffensberger duo in GA who worked with dems in 2020? The McCain/Ducey wing in AZ? The democraticals in WI/MI/PA?

Rollo said...

Harris may have been led to believe Biden would step down at some point in his term, but I really doubt that there was any real promise or agreement.

If the Democrats lose big this year, it will be the Representatives in swing districts who came to DC in 2018 and 2020 who take the hit. The Squad and the usual idiots will be back, unless they lose the primaries.

PM said...

Classic. The Democrats are the ship deserting a sinking rat.

Michael K said...

What is going to stop the dems from doing it again? The Kemp/Raffensberger duo in GA who worked with dems in 2020? The McCain/Ducey wing in AZ? The democraticals in WI/MI/PA?

I worry about that, too but Trump obsessing about 2020 will help them do it again. He has a plethora of real issues. The Arizona legislature is working to prevent what happened last time but Trump is not helping with some of his endorsements.

JaimeRoberto said...

In one sense Biden saved the country in that his election allowed the Dems to call off their Antifa and BLM foot soldiers, but that's like saying that paying the extortion money saved us from the Mafia.

Jim at said...

Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators they can turn to.

Name one. Just one.

Bilwick said...

A night or two ago Judge Jeanine on THE FIVE made the point, re Dementia Joe's age, that she knows lots of people who are older than Joe who don't exhibit the signs of mental and physical decline he does. I'm sort of a loner so I can't say, as she does, that I know "lots" of sharper seniors, but my impression is that the judge is on the right track. I remember about a yea ago there was some footage of ol' Joe heading off by himself into an ice cream shop and it was my first time thinking, "Wow--those people on Instapundit making those Grandpa Simpson jokes about him are on to something!" The vacant eyes, the slurred speech, etc.--all there. All that was missing was Joe shaking his fist at the sky and yelling at the clouds.

hombre said...

"If I remember correctly Biden still has an approval rating in the mid to high 60's with self identified Democrats. Who are these people?"

Forget civility! They are exactly who we think they are.

Stephen St. Onge said...

        IMAO, the important part of this is that this is the second story in two days to say “Joe must go.”  It almost certainly means the Dems are going to push him out, possibly before 2024.

TreeJoe said...

To anyone who says stolen elections are ridiculous....

Hillary Clinton claimed and still claims that a few million in weird russian spend on facebook ads - some of which were pro-her - overcame the billions she spent and tilted the election against her.

Stacey Abrams claims Georgia was stolen from her.

I could go on, but these are 2 mainstream figures in the last few election cycles who have claimed their elections were stolen. With ALOT less shenanigans than went on in 2020...

Greg The Class Traitor said...

There are plenty of possibilities: If Vice President Kamala Harris’s approval ratings remain underwater, Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators they can turn to.

Zero is a number, right?

I've heard them pushing Jared Polis of CO. He's up for election in November. The Latest poll, from a D leaning group, had him at 50%
Now, it had the GOP candidate at 37%. But while a lot can change between now and November, very little of it is going to be helpful to a Dem.

Obama got a generation of D politicians wiped out in 2010. I'm hopeful that Biden will be able to match or exceed him

DINKY DAU 45 said...

Article IV, Section 4 Constitution
The Text
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature can-not be convened) against domestic Violence.

The Meaning
This provision, known as the guarantee clause, is attributed to James Madison. It has not been widely interpreted, but scholars think it ensures that each state be run as a representative democracy, as opposed to a monarchy (run by a king or queen) or a dictatorship (where one individual or group of individuals controls the government). Courts however have been reluctant to specify what exactly a republican form of government means, leaving that decision exclusively to Congress.

The section also gives Congress the power (and obligation) to protect the states from an invasion by a foreign country, or from significant violent uprisings within each state. It authorizes the legislature of each state (or the executive, if the legislature cannot be assembled in time) to request federal help with riots or other violence.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

1: There are no charismati9c Democrat Senators. That was clearly established during the 2020 Dem Presidential Primary

2: Who are the Dem Governors?
Evers, Whitmer, Pollis: All up for re-election this year, which is shaping up to be a red wave to exceed 2010 and 1994. It's really hard to run on the "vote for me, pay no attention to the fact that my own State just rejected me" platform

Newsom, Pritzker: If the Dems want to run on "Let's turn the US into CA or IL", I'm all in favor of that

Who else?

I'd personally LOVE to see the identity politics obsessed Dems try to toss a black female VP under the bus so they can run a white male politician. The civil war there would be glorious.

As for Whitmer, the person who forced stores to stop selling gardening supplies during her Covid lockdowns?
The ONLY reason that she got away with he orders is because she never had to argue them. AS they were incoherent and unjustifiable, I'd love for her to be the Dem candidate in 2024.

Of course, I'll love it more if she loses this year

Big Mike said...

Starvation is their strategy. Look at Holland and Sri Lanka. Hungry beggars are easier to rule.

The “hungry beggars” of Sri Lanka forced that country’s political leaders to run for their lives. Literally.

Marc in Eugene said...

Donald Trump should let go of 2020 and start explaining what he and a GOP House and Senate will do to fix all the things Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have broken since January 2021.

Imagine a serious speech, somewhere redolent of the Nation's past glories, in which he does just this, using some form of words to set aside all the nonsense about the 2020 election and outlining instead a grand program for the four years from January 2025. He could do this and, I imagine, be assured of election to a second term, probably with a GOP Congress. But he won't, because, in addition to his undeniable virtues and political successes, he is a petty vindictive little man. We shall see; anyone can grow in the virtues and leave his meannesses behind who sets his mind to it.

robother said...

He IS too old (i.e., right now) to be President again (i.e., in 2025 on). But somehow, there's no implication that he's too old to be President now. The tense knots these people tie themselves in, not to speak the truth. Forget it Jake, it's the NYTimes.

RigelDog said...

"Biden said, during the 2020 campaign, that he wanted to be a 'bridge' to a new generation of Democrats. Soon it will be time to cross it."}}}}}

Hilarious and disturbingly ominous at the same time.

"Look for the rainbow, Joe--do you see it? Yes! That's right, there it is, just over that hill. That rainbow is really a bridge, Joe, a magical bridge leading to the best place you can imagine! Soon it will be time for you to cross it."

JAORE said...

Democrats have a number of charismatic governors and senators they can turn to...

Outside of governors and senators, I recall a guy named Avenatti that was just the ticket.

And Cuomo was a hero of the virus wars.


Biff said...

Maybe there shouldn't be shame in not running for president for anyone, at any time.

Mr Wibble said...

But somehow, there's no implication that he's too old to be President now. 
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They're setting up for it. Give it another month or so.

The Genius Savant said...

How is what we have now better than a second Trump term? Did we need "saving" from that? Put aside election security issues, which are not at all resolved from 2020, and I'd still say maybe Biden actually *hurt* us by depriving us from what would likely be a much better second Trump term than a first Biden term has delivered. But for the Media and the Left, Trump is such a Devil, however bad things are now, they can't see that a Trump second term would have been better. That's a real problem that goes way beyond Trump and Biden.