May 6, 2022

"Can the women’s movement be as effective without the word ‘women’?"

Asks Megan McArdle (at WaPo). 

Ironically and amazingly, McArdle goes about trying to answer this question without using the word "transgender" — or even "gender"! It is out of deference to transgender men (and transgender women) that we're seeing this avoidance of the word "woman." But McArdle is doing her own form of avoidance in this critique of avoidance.

Let's see how she does it:

Historically, the “women’s movement” was mobilized around what sociologists call a “thick” identity. Womanhood influenced almost every aspect of your life, from the biology of menstruation and childbirth, to how you dressed and acted, to your social roles....

But if you're a transgender woman, you don't have the menstruation and childbirth component, and if you're a transgender man, you don't dress and act and perform social roles in a manner that expresses womanhood. So in the transgender-focused view of the world, the "thickness" becomes series of thinner layers.

To speak of being a woman was to speak of all those things at once, and many more I haven’t mentioned.

And the transgender-focused position regards that sort of speech as unkind — microaggression.

Though, of course, many women missed one or more of those core experiences, all had gone through enough of them to forge a powerful common bond, which translated into some pretty powerful political impacts....

Yes, so there is a political reason to keep this huge group together, to be able to appeal to them as a group. Yet a political cost will be paid, sacrificing the hard-pushed progress on transgender awareness. McArdle is demonstrating how it looks after the sacrifice. She's not even admitting she's doing it. She's just showing what it looks like after it's done.

The relative thickness of female identity explains [all the money spent on breast cancer research].... But breasts belonged to women, and women were already organized to fight for their interests. 

Now, however, the women’s movement seems to be unbraiding that identity. What used to be called “women’s health” is now for “individuals with a cervix,” media outlets (including this one) write about the threat to Roe and “pregnant individuals,” up-to-date midwives talk of “birthing people” and “chestfeeding,” and “women’s swimming” can now cover both those born with male bodies who identify as women and those born with female bodies who identify as men....

Ah! Look at all the words she wrote to avoid saying "transgender": "those born with male bodies who identify as women and those born with female bodies who identify as men." Instead of talking about transgender people as an important political group, she portrays them as a force that has broken up the solidity of the mega-group called "women," to the detriment of women.

Now, I should say, I think she's right! There are so many women, and we want our strong political representation. We disagree amongst ourselves, but all politicians must deal with us. We shouldn't give up our political power, especially when there are woman-specific interests at the very center of the present-day debate. Transgender women don't worry that they can get pregnant and don't deal with unwanted pregnancy. Transgender men may face these matters, but those interests are better served by a strong fight in the name of women, not by endless micro-inclusions that weigh down speech.

[A]ny political coalition must augment its dedicated core with a much larger number of weaker adherents. That’s why thick identities such as “woman” are so valuable....

68 comments:

gilbar said...

What used to be called “women’s health” is now for “individuals with a cervix”

Modest Proposal: what if, we call “individuals with a cervix”.. Womb People? or, maybe Womb men?

Enigma said...

The biological male/female voting gap is set to disappear in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... Welcome to the right wing, JK Rowling and the female-is-a-real-thing feminist army.

"Microagressions" is an incoherent concept that refers to paranoid imaginings and routine functional requirements. Micro events are not aggressive because, well, boobs are obviously different than non-boobs. They must be discussed sometimes. Male and female are natural and absolute hard categories that have never been sustainably denied in human history. Nor will denial be sustainable without creating an entirely new species that relies on artificial lab uteruses and genetic engineering.

Political strategies of the left, center, and right:

Leftists want to cross a river and jump from rock to rock with no way back. Their feet or whole bodies often get wet.
Centrists want to cross a river and look for a fallen log, grab a couple sticks for support, and come back in case of failure.
Rightists don't risk falling in the water and set up a tent on the shore. They may cross over when a bridge is finished.

The left of today really need to read Aldous Huxley's novel Brave New World (1932). Especially the ending.

Temujin said...

Can someone tell me the percentage of Americans who are actively transgendering? I mean, not how many are 'playing' at being trans, but how many- what percentage of the US population- has already changed or is actively in the process of changing genders?

When one of you come up with that number, let me know if you think we spend a ridiculously inordinate amount of time discussing this entire matter, changing our speech, our notions of men and women, our bathroom, athletic, and prison polcies, teaching our kids to be confused about the most basic things, and generally turning 21st century humans into 5th century fantasy cultists.

In the meantime, why doesn't everyone just start putting quotations around the word "women" if you feel like you might be hurting the feelings of someone you will never meet in person.

I am soooo over the entirety of this nonsense.

Temujin said...

PS- I would have a lot more respect for the "womens" movement if women were women and men were men. As it's going, I have no respect for any of it. It's a horrible joke. And those continuing to perpetrate it- grow it- deserve our scorn, not our obedience.

farmgirl said...

The thick and thin identity is weak tea. It seems anyone who wants to stand out must “discover” some new explanation or uncover new expressions of self. Thick and thin. It’s bullshit. The concept seems backward in this explanation.

(I suppose)When the uniqueness of an individual is no longer held in highest esteem, rather- stripped of G*d given qualities and retrofitted into a feeling rather than a fingerprint… all that is left is to classify as groups. For the sake of power.

Onions have layers:

https://youtu.be/-FtCTW2rVFM

jaydub said...

It wasn't just the word transgender she avoided in the article, she also sidestepped delusional, pretend and psychosis.

Kevin said...

Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!

Howard said...

This is too far into the weeds on a topic that deserves a 50,000-foot view. Looking forward to the entertainment from the Pavlovian hysterical rantings how this is another sign of the coming apocalypse and why we can't have nice things. Personally, I can't wait for His Most Catholic Justices Alito and Amy Looney Barret to author anti-trans rulings. I like Beer!

Andrew said...

How about everyone just stay their gender, and we stop playing this charade? Problem solved. No need for all this self-imposed handwringing and agonizing.

rhhardin said...

Transgender women are okay but real women should be in charge.

Jersey Fled said...

We are truly in the end times.

David Begley said...

Don’r unbraid the women’s movement.

Kai Akker said...

This topic is crying out to be discussed in Kiev.

What's emanating from your penumbra said...

We shouldn't give up our political power

Fair enough. You want power and you're happy to say it. Sounds a little selfish, especially in the context of the issues that the current women's movement champions, but at least you're honest.

Does your philosophy also say that men should fight to keep all power they have so they can achieve goals that benefit men at the expense of women or society at large? lol, just kidding, of course.

Transgender men may face these matters, but those interests are better served by a strong fight in the name of women, not by endless micro-inclusions that weigh down speech.

Oh, it's the "interests" that matter, not people. I like this rhetoric. You should keep your power, and other groups should give up their power and give it to you because it serves your interests. TBH, it sounds transphobic and sexist, but not against women, so it's ok.

Michael said...

Gotta hand it to McArdle for threading that needle. Noting Women's identity being subordinated to a new ideology but she knows pointing the finger at Trans would get her canned from the WaPo gig. She says not without saying it.

Well done Megan.

Rory said...

There were capitalists and workers. Then the revolution happened in a less-industrialized country, so there were peasants. Then some of the peasants didn't want to give up their land, so we got some kulaks. Then some people maybe the revolution had been going for a pretty long time, so we got reactionaries....

Long story slightly less long: they will say anything to turn people against each other. It's what they do.

Iconochasm said...

"Transgender women don't worry that they can get pregnant and don't deal with unwanted pregnancy."

The problem with that is that openly caring about this categorization involves excluding a group of people who insist that doing so makes them sad, and will gleefully crybully you about it.

Well, women? Will you choose to be "nice", and lose the ability to usefully articulate your group interests? Or will you hold the line on logical categorization?

Breezy said...

Tell me you agree with JKRowling without saying you agree with JKRowling.

wendybar said...

Since the "Woman's movement" had the Woman's March and REFUSED to let Conservative Women march, to me the Woman's Movement is the Progressive only Womens movement because they could care less what ALL women want. I am proud NOT to be part of it.

Jefferson's Revenge said...

This whole topic is a way for a small group of people who have done nothing that merits attention to actually get attention. The very few actual traditional trans people I am aware of as adults seem to be embarrassed by this.

This is a made up issue akin to a child’s tantrum thrown by one kid at a 25 person birthday party. Twenty four kids are having fun so the one oddball needs to prevent that.

What I don’t understand is why it gets so much attention from the media and academia. I know that now there is money in it but how and why did ir get to that point. I remember it came out of the blue during Obama when all of a sudden schools basically needed unisex bathrooms.

Saint Croix said...

You know, words are important. Words are the basis of language and communication. Words are how we arrive at peaceful solutions of conflicts. Christians often talks about "the word" because of its fundamental importance.

But you have to be honest. If you cheat and use words to manipulate people, the strength and value of words is lost. Jesus called Satan "the father of lies."

So if you use language in a dishonest way, people notice and get mad about that. If we as a society say "baby" when we love a child, and "fetus" when we do not, people notice. And if you say "person" to please the woke side of your political party and "woman" to please the feminist side of your political party, people notice.

Language doesn't change reality. It changes minds, it changes attitudes, but language is limited to humanity. Reality preceded language and is bigger than language.

People who are willing to say "woman" and "baby" are at a big advantage over people who can't say those words because of political implications.

As Jesus put it, "the truth will set you free."

Readering said...

Chestfeeding is a new one to me. What's going in there? Women's swimming covers what now? More than men's swimming?

Bill R said...

I remember when Freudian psychology was all the rage. All the most sophisticated people, all the deep thinkers, the profound intellectuals were aficionados of Freud. Freudianism was everywhere from the soaring heights of the ivory towers to the dim back room of McSorley's pub. There was once an episode of MASH where an Army psychiatrist did Freudian analysis of the characters and recorded it all in his diary which he addressed to "Dear Sigmund". Freud was everywhere.

Freud's key insight, the foundation of the whole belief system, the core of Freud's view of human nature was the idea that every man secretly wanted to have sex with his mother.

There never was any evidence for this. It is reflected almost nowhere in art, literature, or memoir. The idea defies common experience and common sense. It led to no accurate predictions of human behavior. It was all nonsense. No one wants to have sex with his mother. No one. But it was fervently believed by all the best and brightest.

The whole Freudian fad was another demonstration of an important truth. You can have a very high IQ and still be a fool.

This transgender nonsense is more of the same. As Orwell said "There are notions so foolish that only an intellectual will believe them."

RideSpaceMountain said...

"Can the women’s movement be as effective without the word ‘women’?"

LMFAO. Some of us are still trying to figure out what generation of feminism we're in.

Iman said...

I wonder what McCardle would say about a transgender JEWISH woman?

Ann Althouse said...

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave...."

On the hair metaphor: "the women’s movement seems to be unbraiding that identity"

Drago said...

Groomer Enabler Howard: "This is too far into the weeds on a topic that deserves a 50,000-foot view."

LOL

Oh, Howard wants to avoid looking in detail at the ramifications of his side's lunatic fringe ideas that now have the democraticals utterly cowed.

Better to try and change the subject completely, which Howard tried (again) to do.

You want to see Howard curl up in a ball and cry?

Tell him to define "woman" or, better yet, tell him grown men shouldnt share bathrooms with 5 year old girls.

Howard hates when you say things like that.

Iman said...

She’s a lumberjack and she’s okay

gilbar said...

All of this, raises an important question
WHICH are MORE Delicious? Cakes? or Parfaits?
I, they're both yummy... But ONE Must Be MORE Delicious than the other

Sebastian said...

"It is out of deference to transgender men (and transgender women) that we're seeing this avoidance of the word "woman.""

Actually, out of cowardly subjection to prog demands for politically correct speech in the interest of advancing prog power over the culture.

Rusty said...

"LMFAO. Some of us are still trying to figure out what generation of feminism we're in."
I gave up long ago. Now I just treat them with the old time southern respect my mother instilled in all her sons. Until they prove they don't deserve it then I can get all Chicago neighborhood on em.

Lurker21 said...

Fourth wave feminism (are we up to number four already?) will find a way to reclaim the word "woman." This is the intermission or interregnum or the lull between the third and fourth waves. Much confusion. Future feminists are going to have to deal with the deconstruction of the concepts "woman" and "women," or ignore it, or reject it. In practical, materialistic, fund-raising terms the movement may prove to be more attached to abortion than to womanhood.

Xmas said...

Temujin,

I think it's under .5%...however, I think under 18 or 25 it's jumped up to 1% to 2%. One of the complaints is that younger children that would have likely grown up to be homosexual are being exposed to the idea that they are transgendered or "gender non-conforming".

This crazy labelling of identity just to have a label is monstrous. And I say that as an alphabet person. Because the label is changing how kids behave and live their lives.

Christopher B said...

Honestly, to borrow from Sarah Hoyt, you're projecting like an IMAX if you're making the assumption that the possible Dobbs decision overturning Roe represents a failure of women's political power. Per Gallup (sourced here in a post from Steve Hayward at Powerline) public opinion has steadily narrowed since Roe to the point the overall electorate has been nearly evenly split pro-life/pro-choice for almost a decade. Unrestricted abortion availability, the apparent default setting for Roe supporters at this moment, has never enjoyed majority or even plurality support and complete prohibition has always been the option with the least support.

Whatever else can be said about the current trans infatuation, declining support for abortion is not the result of the trans lobby or weird locutions necessary to virtue signal to them. As a number of people have pointed out, conservatives did the hard work of convincing people to elect Senators and Presidents who would appoint and confirm judges at all levels who would oppose unrestricted abortion, as well as state legislators and governors who would pass the state level bills. Democrats decided that they could take the easy road of thinking they were on 'the right side of history' and had an 'emerging majority' that would allow them to cater to the various extremist elements in their coalition. It didn't work.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Temujin said...
Can someone tell me the percentage of Americans who are actively transgendering?...

When one of you come up with that number, let me know if you think we spend a ridiculously inordinate amount of time discussing this entire matter


There's a number of reasons

1: Promotion up the "victim hierarchy"
A: Are you a sic het white male? You are the lowest of the low.
But, "just say these words (TM)", and you're now a trans lesbian female! Instant promotion!
Are you a pervert? Then in addition to that promotion, you get to go into women's and girl's spaces, and expose yourself / check out the naked or at least in their underwear females. And instead of getting arrested if your'e caught, you actually get to attack your (entirely legitimate) accusers, and call them "transphobes!"
Are you an average male jock? Decide you're "trans", and you can become the NCAA Women's Champion, rather than someone who didn't even make it to the competition

B: Are you a cis het white female? As we've seen, they now rank below everyone but white males (and maybe asian males). Decide you're "non-binary", and you've now had a big promotion up the victimhood hierarchy

2: The Left's hatred of America and normal society
"Trans" is the sex version of CRT: a way to divide people, and to destroy normal society
Normal, functional people tend to vote Republican. Married women vote a lot more to the Right than do single women, esp. single women with kids

The more they can turn people into freaks, the better for their voting, and the worse for American society. Since the people driving this on the Left hate American society (it let's those damn deplorable vote! And even win!), this is a twofer

The more power the Left has obtained over education in America, the worse the quality of that education has become

This is because educated, normal, functional people aren't willing to mortgage themselves to the government. They can take care of themselves, and they generally expect everyone else to do the same.

What the Left wants is serfs. People who have no ability to be self-reliant, no ability to have a functional happy life.

Because those are the kind of people who give the Left power

West TX Intermediate Crude said...

We do mankind, including the ~50% that is female, a disservice by taking this transgender stuff so seriously.
There is a small fraction of 1% of humanity who truly believes that he or she is the "wrong" sex. They are delusional, in the way that a person who believes that he is Napolean, or the Pope, or is told by inner voices to stand on the street corner and shout. There is something profoundly wrong about the inner brain chamistry of these people. They should be tolerated up to the point of their delusions interfering with the lives of other people, then convinced by some means or other to cease.
The vast majority of "transgenders" are saying to the public, "Hey, Look at Me!" This includes the reported classes of suburban teenage girls, the college students who are living their majors, and the corporate drones who would otherwise be a NPC at Amazon, State U., or the local hospital.
Then there are the troublemakers. Some are backed or funded by America's enemies, some are native to our society and like to watch the world burn. A small percentage, but dangerous to civilized society. THey are the ones who tell the women on the swim team that their lives will be destroyed if they protest Mr. Thomas' presence on the team.
Saul Alinsky famously wrote: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
He was wrong. Brute force is man’s most potent weapon.
It is true, however that ridicule is woman’s most potent weapon. Women should use it instead of discussing "transgenderism" seriously and thereby helping them to nudge the Overton Window ever closer to insanity.

Gahrie said...

What I don’t understand is why it gets so much attention from the media and academia. I know that now there is money in it but how and why did ir get to that point. I remember it came out of the blue during Obama when all of a sudden schools basically needed unisex bathrooms.

It happened exactly when gay marriage was "settled", because the Left needed a new crusade. I will admit that I was wrong and expected polygamy to be the next fight. Perhaps it will be the next one after this, or incest, or bestiality, or pedophilia, but there will be a next fight, because there always has to be a new crusade for the secular religion to fight.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

Readering said...
Chestfeeding is a new one to me. What's going in there?
That's what happens when you live in a left wing bubble, you miss things.

https://www.tyla.com/news/life-news-maternity-ward-nhs-brighton-hospitals-transgender-language-respect-20210210 Midwives Told To Stop Saying 'Breastfeeding' And Use Trans-Friendly Term 'Chestfeeding'
Kimberley Bond
Published 10:21, 10 February 2021 GMT | Last updated 14:04, 10 February 2021 GMT An NHS trust is changing up the language used on its maternity wards to make its services ore accommodating for transgender and non-binary people.

Midwives at the Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust have been advised to use the words 'chest-feeding' instead of breast-feeding, while breastmilk should be replaced with 'human-milk', 'breast/chest milk', or 'milk from the mother or feeding parent' in cases where they feel this language would be more suitable to the patient in question.

The move - which will also see maternity services renamed as perinatal services - has been announced in a bid to tackle health inequalities in the medical profession when it comes to gender identity.

https://thefederalist.com/2017/04/25/if-you-think-breastfeeding-is-natural-youre-transphobe/
If You Think Breastfeeding Is Natural, You’re Now A Transphobe
BY: GEORGI BOORMAN APRIL 25, 2017

If someone told you that you shouldn’t say breastfeeding is natural, would you heed her advice? That’s exactly what writers Jessica Martucci and Anne Barnhill argue in an online pediatrics journal this month.

“We are concerned about breastfeeding promotion that praises breastfeeding as the “natural” way to feed infants,” they write.

Martucci and Barnhill detail how pro-breastfeeding campaigns by the U.S. Department of Health, World Health Organization, and other state-level departments promote breastfeeding as natural and “mom-made” over formula feeding. Admittedly, “it makes sense” to promote breastfeeding, as part of the decades-long effort to reverse the mid-twentieth century embrace of formula feeding (fully supported by the medical community).

But the authors pitch a couple complaints against this approach...

Coupling nature with motherhood, however, can inadvertently support biologically deterministic arguments about the roles of men and women in the family(for example, that women should be the primary caretakers of children). Referencing the “natural” in breastfeeding promotion, then, may inadvertently endorse a controversial set of values about family life and gender roles, which would be ethically inappropriate.” [Emphasis added.]

Tommy Duncan said...

What used to be called “women’s health” is now for “individuals with a cervix,” media outlets (including this one) write about the threat to Roe and “pregnant individuals,” up-to-date midwives talk of “birthing people” and “chestfeeding,” and “women’s swimming” can now cover both those born with male bodies who identify as women and those born with female bodies who identify as men....

That certainly does not read like an Ernest Hemmingway story.

John henry said...

So can I, a white Puerto Rican, born in NY to Scots/irish/German parents claim to be black?

How is that any different from will Thomas or Bruce Jenner claiming to be women?

John LGKTQ Henry

Eleanor said...

The "women's movement" died in the 1970s. Now there's just the "abortion movement". Nothing else of interest to women matters to them. They embrace the transgender movement and the folks who want pedophilia to be an acceptable sexual orientation to get them on the side of the abortion and infanticide activists. It's a quid pro quo. What difference does it make what they're called as long as they can kill their unborn children? They'll trade anything for that.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

There are immutable characteristics of females that are not changed in any transitioning ever. Physiology is much more than can be reached by a surgeon’s scalpel or hormonal change. Denial of such basic facts in service to the feelings of mentally unbalanced people, and any look at stats for dysphoria patients shows just how rampant self-harm is among those claiming to need to transition, is a disservice to those individuals and society at large.

Jupiter said...

Remember when we said that marriage was intended to provide a safe environment for producing children? And they said "Well, you let sterile people get married."

Every slope is slippery. When you're dealing with these people, every slope is slippery.

hombre said...

"....But if you're a transgender woman, you don't have the menstruation and childbirth component...."

Consequently, you are not a woman. You are a man claiming to be a woman.

hawkeyedjb said...

If we're going to replace the handy word "woman" with extended phrases like "individuals with a cervix" then let's also use the protracted and accurate phrase for "transgender": People who pretend.

Pillage Idiot said...

gilbar is exactly correct.

"Modest Proposal: what if, we call “individuals with a cervix”.. Womb People? or, maybe Womb men?"

For individuals with a cervix, we should just shorten the appellation "Womb men" to women.

Then speech will once again be illuminating, rather than deliberately obscure!

John henry said...

I'm always amazed at how accepting women in general and and feminists in particular are of crossdressing men pretending to be women. Even a Supreme can't /won't say what a "woman" is. (yeah, Ann, I know, context)

The terfs and lesbians are right this acceptance of men pretending to be women is an erasure of the very concept of womanhood. Thiserasure, not permissive or restrictive abortion laws id what leads to the handmaids tale.

I have no problem with crossdressing or even swapping a dick for a pretend vagina. In consenting adults, of course, not in choldren.

My problem isn't really even them calling themselves "women". pretending that they are. My problem is that they expect us to play along, pretending that they really are.

My even bigger problem is tha so many people who should know better do play along.

I like women, in general. I don't want them erased. I would think women would not want to be erased but I seem to be wrong. With a lot of exceptions.

John LGKTQ Henry

mikee said...

If one is a transgendered man, one fulfills one's womanhood by behaving as one wants, without limitation, as is the right of every woman. "Behaving as one wants" coincidentally is a defining characteristic of toxic masculinity, so there is a problem for transgendered men in that they must behave as men, be men, while using their womanhood as their basis for all their actions, lest they be condemned as toxically masculine men. They are women, hear them roar!

The girlie Katoey boys of Thailand have the opposite issue settled pretty well, at least as much as shore-leave sailors care about. They are women, hear them roar, too!

Hope that helps everyone trying to decide what to get your favorite gal-guy for their birthday. I've found that flashlights always come in handy as gifts, if you're still stumped.

mccullough said...

Shouldn’t the term “mid-wife” be “mid-spouse”?

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AlbertAnonymous said...

Transgender men (or is it transgender women? What’s the guy who cuts his cock off and wears dresses?) are just Rachel Doleziels of gender - misappropriating. Or so I thought. The rules keep changing apparently.

Howard said...

Fill your head with the msm social media Firehouse of contrived news gossip and rumors at your pleasure, Drago. We all know that it the only way for you to arouse yourself. It's what your Oligarchy betters want.

Yancey Ward said...

I read the essay- I didn't really sense any need to use the word "transgender" anywhere within the argument, and if she had used it, it would have required a definitional sentence anyway- consider the confusion that "transgender women" and "transgender men" causes for many readers.

Now, it is possible she avoided the word, or her editors forced her to delete it, in order to not cast blame on the transgender community directly (she doesn't want to be JK Rowling), but that argument doesn't really hold since she still described them as part of the problem.

Real American said...

It just seems that even in the realm of politics, men are better at being women than women are.

Michael K said...

She used to be logical and readable before she sold her soul to Bezos.

Earnest Prole said...

It’s spelled thiccness, not thickness -- for further details see Helen Parr.

Michael K said...


Blogger Howard said...

Fill your head with the msm social media Firehouse of contrived news gossip and rumors at your pleasure,


"Firehouse?" Are you thinking of arson ? Take your meds, Howard.

Rabel said...

I remember when Megan had balls.

Her transition to the dark side has been a sad spectacle.

RigelDog said...

"Chestfeeding" is an indefensible term on any grounds. Women AND men both have breasts, and nipples. Moreover, women AND men both have chests. Women who think they are having a heart attack don't go to the emergency room and say, "I am having pain in that area between and underneath my totally-womanly breasts." They report "chest pain."

Amadeus 48 said...

I understand that some people have this delusion (transgenderism), but why should I play along in any meaningful way?

Am I not a sovereign individual and master of my own thoughts?

n.n said...

The "W" word. Keep them appointed, available, and taxable. The "M" word suffers from its own hooks and ladders.

Gordon Scott said...

"I will admit that I was wrong and expected polygamy to be the next fight." It would have been. But the whole TG thing has been pushed by men who want to have sex with lesbians, and wear women's clothes to achieve this goal. Man, was it a shock for the lesbians at Lilith's Fair concerts! Here's this dude with five-o'clock shadow and an ugly poorly fitting dress hitting on them in what was supposed to be a safe space.

And just as one would expect, the TG lesbians turned out to be pushy, aggressive, and willing to gang up to attack perceived opponents. Just like men! And along comes the internet, and now they have the power to whisper in the ear of confused people everywhere, especially vulnerable teens.

I saw this at pagan festivals. Imagine the poor organizers when the dudes-in-a-dress demand entry to womyn-only rituals. These folks are very pro-sex, and all must exalt anything LGBT etc. It was three days of continuous cognitive dissonance. Trust me, telling them "y'all voted for this!" does not go over well.

Ah, poor Meggie Mac the elder (McCain's daughter is the younger). I use to like her slightly Aspergery analysis. Then she joined neverTrump, and went behind the Bezos paywall, and I haven't read anything of hers in four years. If this is what she's writing these days, I haven't missed anything.

Mark said...

What would happen if all the "men" declared they are now women, and all the "women" declared that they are now men?

Amadeus 48 said...

Reuben, Reuben I’ve been thinking
What a queer world this would be
If all the men were transported
Far beyond the Northern Sea.
Rachel Rachel I’ve been thinking
What a queer world this would be
If all the woman were transported
Far beyond the Northern Sea.

Bunkypotatohead said...

I wonder if political commentators for the msm are questioning their choice of liveliehood. With the approved terminology changing almost weekly it could easily cost them their jobs if they're using unauthorized labels.

Tim said...

Amadeus, I learned that as "If the men were all transported, far beyond the Northern Sea" and then "If the girls were all transported, far beyond the Northern Sea", and the guys and the girls both sang at the same time, but offset by one line. That was in a two-room schoolhouse in rural Tennessee a hella long time ago!

TRISTRAM said...

Megan can FRO. My wife, who had to have a hysterectomy and now, no longer, has a cervix, is, in fact, in nature, and nurture, a woman.

McArdle should go back to excusing attacks on Orthodox Jews, it's a better look for her.

TRISTRAM said...

"Woman. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

It is sad that this isn't a funny statement, but a divisive argument.